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lotus-tower · 1 year ago
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i really liked "unwilling hole" gin-san in the ouroboros essay, do you have any other thoughts about it/what a willing hole would be?
thank you! this is a great question.
"reluctant hole" is a term taken from tshirt's scatological gintama essay, eat shit and die. gintoki's status as a reluctant hole in this original context is quite literal. tshirt talks about how the Central Joke in gintama is the inversion of power in the desiring-pair, and how gintama's dirty jokes get imbued with meaning due to the conflation and elision between sex and shit, both being "dirty things"--with the anal naturally becoming the potent symbol of this. the key point made by tshirt that i take up in my ouroboros essay is "gintama, of course, is about preferring dirty things."
in my ouroboros framework, the Hole looms like an antagonist of sorts. but as i specify in my second essay (the one published in yaoizine vol2), the problem with the "hole-sided" gintama villains isn't that they have a hole in them (everyone has a hole. it comes free), but in their response to it. the problem with gintama's villains isn't that their holes are somehow worse than the heroes', but that their hole lacks "dirt." because the shame of being alive, the pain of their human relationships, and the misery of their failures are too much for them to bear.
what i meant by gintoki as a reluctant hole isn't exactly the same thing that tshirt meant, but in the end it's relatively similar. tshirt used the "sword stuck in ass" arc as an example of the sort of punchline that gintama is obsessed with, the way it draws humour from playing with the pole-hole/sword-scabbard binary. yes, he's quite literally a reluctant hole in that arc, but tshirt is talking about the underlying ideas that gintama uses to structures its jokes and its portrayal of a hero who's meant to be incredibly cool, but very carefully designed to be lame and have the opposite qualities of a traditional protagonist.
this "inversion" in his characteristics isn't unique or anything, it's part of a very common type of power fantasy in shounen, and you can also see it in surface-level imagination exercises on tumblr. but either way, it's projected into the gags that gintoki interacts with, and because gintama is obsessed with toilet humour, that means another "binary" ripe for flipping is the pole/hole. quoting tshirt quoting sougo in that arc: “He really is a fucked up samurai. Instead of using the sword to protect his own body, he’s using himself as a scabbard for his friggin’ sword.”
similarly, in my framework, the (deceptive) binary that looms large is the head/tail--which i've mapped the hole/phallus onto as well. i'm not going to go into detail about what my framework is actually about because i assume you've read all that already. but essentially gintoki is a "reluctant hole" not only because he's struggling to not be hole-sided, but because he's also struggling with not being hole-sided. he struggles to fill his hole with the things it needs to be filled with: he struggles to learn how to live, and then he struggles with living. he's reluctant because he never wanted to be the main character, subject to the kind of indignities, tragedies, and ironies expressed through both gintama's gags and serious writing--always oriented towards him being that kind of "anti-hero", and thus inextricably tying him to dirt.
so i think in the end, there really is no such thing as a "willing hole" without changing the meaning of the words used. because it would be easy to describe an antagonist with no more regrets as a willing hole, but would that antagonist be interesting in a gintama context? or you could use it to describe someone who doesn't struggle with what gintoki struggles with--but then they would just be an inhumanly perfect being without struggle, and that wouldn't be interesting either. so in the end, it's a little bit misleading, because there is no real dichotomy here. there are only reluctant holes in the sense that i used it in my essay--and gintoki is the microcosm of the entire series, so he's The reluctant hole, and in describing him this way i was just really describing what gintama is about.
i think the closest thing to an interesting and valuable "willing hole" in gintama is actually shouyou, owing to his dead anime mentor status. he isn't a flawless being, but he knew he would die to utsuro one day, and he embraced it. but this response has already gone on long enough. i hope it satisfies your curiosity!
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kitamars · 1 year ago
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Hello. I would like to request either old soft ginhiji or desi / bollywood ginhiji. Though anything you draw is a blessing, so I will be happy with anything honestly, lol.
hello op i don’t think you realise the amount of brainrot your ask has inflicted upon me
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ive had desi gintama dormant in my brain for a while so thank you for unleashing my brainworms. More will come soon
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courtesanofdeath · 7 months ago
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Now I'm one step closer to becoming the King of Pirates.
happy birthday kamui ~
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simikae · 10 months ago
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hymnism · 2 years ago
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the ginguy (gintama guy) has canon gay sex?? TWICE???
yap with hasegawa and kondo
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there's also a gag where he shows a couple gintama dvd covers with ginhiji on them
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sysig · 1 month ago
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Enecomimi Banzaiiii (Patreon)
#Doodles#Pokemon#Firebland#Silverstreakshipping#Kabu#Larry#Gintama references lol#And translation jokes! Very fun#I like how my reaction to these two is a fairly level ''Oh I like them but it's not all That serious really'' and then my headcanons pft#They're easy to like and think about! What am I to do about that#So the headcanons lol - I like to think that since Kabu was recruited from Hoenn that he sometimes calls Pokemon by their Japanese names#Which allowed for this very fun joke :) I was So hoping that one of the Normal cats would be a basic pun on ''Neko'' and I was right hehehe#Since Gintama has been moved into my breakfast rotation - I've read enough djs not fully appreciating the context! It was time!#I've gotten the opportunity to enjoy some of the references pulled from the anime itself into the fanwork hehe <3 Nekomimi banzaiiii!#Once I heard Shinpachi call it moe* that was it I was done I could go on no longer without making the joke#*As in cute/endearing/exciting - but its homophone refers to ''burning''! Kabu is both hehe#He's so confused - isn't Eneco a Normal type? Better go ask the resident expert#As if they weren't already planning to hang out at Kabu's place haha ♪ Just going through his fanmail while Larry spectates casually#That second Kabu is probably the cutest one I've drawn so far!! Couldn't recapture for the rest of the comic that's for sure hwegh#Gotta study what does and doesn't work with his design hm hm#Larry's still much easier to draw which is clearly why he features for only two panels here lol#At least he's enjoying himself#Kabu + Cute Normal Type Pokemon = 😳 Haha ♪#You're being very subtle Larry I'm sure he won't notice your reaction at all you're holding it together great#頑張れ アオキさん
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dnana-2809-blog · 8 months ago
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Some of my favorite ships
(Black & White haired edition)
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sikuanlili · 10 months ago
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More kisses!!
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whosname · 20 days ago
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[Id. Pencil sketch of Utsuro showing his Tenshouin Naraku Special Agent ID. Below it there's a photo of him in a sexy pose wearing only his briefs. End Id.]
Special Agent Utsuro, Tenshouin Naraku. (reference under cut. no surprises here)
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[Id. screenshot from the X-Files Simpsons episode. Agent Mulder showing his FBI Id. Below it there's a photo of him in a sexy pose wearing only his briefs. End Id.]
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superiorkenshi · 2 months ago
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(Base by Abisalli)
I'm having an art block :( I feel quite unmotived to draw now and I want to change that, so here we go for an ask game!
You can ask any character of any fandom I'll tag and if you want to ask for an Oc or a character of a fandom not tagged ask me! (You can ask more than one character)
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iamkokonut · 4 months ago
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WHATTTTTTT
WHY DONT I RMB THISSSSS
AHHHHH
MY HEARTTTTTT
WAHHHHHHH
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bbq-potato-chip · 4 months ago
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Drawing request for the scrunkliest lil guy you can manage. Blorbo or OC idc I just wanna see a scrunkle.
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skrunkle!!!!!
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kitamars · 11 months ago
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Oh god! 😭😭😭😭I LOVED THE INDIAN COMIC! 💛💛💛💛💛💛 I didn't know I needed this✨😭😭✨ thank you so much! Can you do other gintama cast in indian core please?!
JDHFJFHGHim so glad you liked it……this au is always dormant in my brain so i had some additional sketches lying around so i’ll just dump them here hehe enjoyyyy
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there were points to a lot of these but pray that i have more free time lmao 😭😭😭 i LOVE bollywood-esque gintama………so good
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yatobunbun · 2 years ago
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don’t the stars look beautiful tonight?
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a-mossy-opossum · 4 months ago
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Ещё один коллаб с другими художниками аска! Мой здесь только Сакамото. Искать все их каналы будет трудно...
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symbieote · 3 months ago
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Reading Gintama doujinshi on pixiv and there's a funny dissonance because I 100% can suspend disbelief to read romantic djs of Gintoki, protagonist of a manga where almost all romantic feelings are unreciprocated and which birthed the term 最終回���情期(フィナルファンタジー) to make fun of people paring up at the conclusion of a manga series. Oh he got lovey dovey gay married to one of his his rivals and foils at the end! Good for him!
What I draw the line at is any r18 action, not because I'm a prude or whatever, but because I absolutely cannot believe that either of them Trust Like That. Are you saying that a Gintama character is going to expose their bare unguarded ass to another Gintama character for the purposes of intercourse and expect there not to be some sort of horribly painful physical comedy gag. Did you learn nothing from Hattori Zenzo's traumatic butt injuries. The only djs that I would hypothetically be able to read without having to wrestle my disbelief like wrestling an alligator would be about either a)Gintoki and Zenzo doing some gruesome buttgore comedy and b)canon compliant Madao on Madao drunken one night stand action.
Not just the m/m stuff either! Do you think Sakata Gintoki is going to get it up long enough to penetrate any of his female love interests without some kind of stupid slapstick interrupting. Read the room コノヤロー he would never successfully hit home base without some kind of traumatic testicular injury to ruin the situation.
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