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the seperation of lesbians and gay men is a travesty. "why are there so many historic gay bars and only like a handful of lesbian bars in the whole country" why are being gay and lesbian not the same thing in this context. you dont need to fuck everyone at the bar and it is a problem that needs to be addressed if these spaces arent mutually hospitable. and this applies to most gay/lesbian spaces imo
#its just wrong to assume gay spaces arent for women and if any gay men are reinforcing that it needs to be stopped lol#but a lot of it seems like very gender-biased willing exclusion bc they dont wanna associate with men#which um. grow up to you too#gender segregation is just evil period#other than intimate circumstances if you refuse to hang around people you perceive as x gender#its a problem you need to work on it's not just a right you've earned#now yes of course there are able to be specific cases of bars that are more explicitly lesbian or gay#but assuming if a bar is a ''gay bar'' its just for gay men is a fallacy... do you even go to these places?#''buh buh buh if theres a drag show drag is insulting to women cis and trans'' its not. address your revulsion#i know i come across harsh toned im actually more being flabbergasted that weve got to this point rather than saying hey you in particular#its just so strange to have grew up in the gay climate i did where the only lesbian flag was just lipstick lesbian and the girls didnt like#if you assumed every lesbian fell under it and to just use rainbow#and now people act like gay and lesbian arent synonyms because of gender seperatism. which disproportionally hurts members of the lgbt#community because they are more likely to be gnc lol#also a lot of individual opinions you just see the terf hand guiding.#and i HATE THE TOOTHPASTE FLAG!!#no pink flag for girls so blue flag for boys get the fuck out of my face#i dont want to superficially share my experiences with gay men i need community with gay PEOPLE
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The two stories/series/media creations that make me want to gnaw on the drywall right now are Revolutionary Girl Utena, a masterful deconstruction of tropes rooted in sexism and queerphobia but with pervasive racist/imperialist elements* in the background, and Dune, a masterful deconstruction of tropes rooted in racism and imperialism but with pervasive sexist/queerphobic** elements in the background. it's hilarious it's like they're made to cancel each other out
#shitpost#rgu#sky#revolutionary girl utena#shoujo kakumei utena#dune#dune series#dune movie#*i'm not the only one who thinks that akio and anthy being the only ones with skin darker than snow white's is kinda weird right?#that's not just me?#something something japanese imperialism and the exotification/fetishization of Desi people or darker-skinned people in general#**the recent movies do a better job of this but hoo boy the books are Utterly Saturated with heteronormativity and the gender binary#the whole thing with the Bene Gesserit and the Kwisatz Haderach can really only exist with the acceptance of the gender binary#and it breaks down once you try to analyze why it's in place. in order for it to work you just kinda need to ignore the existence of#intersex/transgender/genderqueer/nonbinary people and treat the categories of 'men' and 'women' as mutually exclusive homogenous boxes#and then of course there's the fact that in the books all the female characters are either Bene Gesserit or Fremen (wives)#the Dune books very much treat men as the default#as a final note i'd joke like āposts that are gonna get me cancelled for enjoying Problematic Shitā but like#i don't think either the rgu or the dune fandoms are that kind of community lol
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maybe its the emotional distress but lately i have been feeling very proud and emotional about being a girl lately in ways i never have before
#my post#it could also be because ive been listening to chappell roan almost exclusively#it also draws into context how little ive ever felt like a girl my whole life#i dont have many complicated feelings about gender bc i feel like part of being a cis girl is just sometimes wishing you were just a capita#capital P person#but lately ive been like yes i am a girl and it is wonderful ! and girls r awesome!#idk#shoutout to ginger for being the only one to like all my diary entries xoxo
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This girl, Selene, is not just a feminine object shoving a wedge in the masculine energy, and she isnāt a potential girlfriend these boys must be on their best behavior to impress, SHE LITERALLY IS THEIR COUSIN.
She is there for the exact same reasons as them, to have funļæ¼ indulging in a shared interest with family, and be rowdy with her cousins. But for the the most mundane and misogynistic reasons, having her around is a dragājust because sheās female. To them, all she is is a girl, and who wants one of those around?
Props to Seleneās dad (and other family) for seeing this as the toxic masculinity bullshit it is, and choosing his daughter.
This man doesnāt even consciously realize how much he has āother-edā his niece in his mind, itās is so natural for him to understand why she could be excluded in a way he would never have so easily accepted if it was any of his nephews or, god forbid, one of his own sons.
#the post is now removed of course#because he got absolutely reamed#rightfully so#I hope all the cousins who sided with Serene and her father go on their own fishing trip#exclude the misogynists#make serene feel welcome#literally the only reason they donāt want her there is because she is a girl#how is that anything besides pure misogyny#toxic masculinity#gender roles#toxic gender roles#anti gender roles#gender abolition#female exclusion#female experience#gender#gender critical#radfem#radfems do interact#radfems do touch#radfem safe#pro radfem#radblr
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cute chubby maker by @r4smodius
#skin tone variation#inhuman skin tones#religious options#plus size friendly#textured hair options#pride options#gender exclusive: girls only#multicolour hair#zaroth
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(someone makes a good post abt an issue i care about
(unlikes it real fast bc OP added an unnecessarily hostile edited note towards bi lesbians)
#so as long genderqueer people exist that cross the men-nonmen boundary#so do people whose attraction is incompatible with the men-non men binary#its not clean its not strict its not mutually exclusive#boygirls and girlboys and boys who are circumstantially girls etc etc#those genders go hand in hand with bi lesbian#my gender. is hand in hand with bi lesbian.#sorry im just š„#the fact that i - a MAN - who is also equally gender neutrois and very much sapphic adjacent/vibes to the point that being a man is like#the only thing that would separate me from sapphic/lesbian identity and experience for me#if your lesbian attraction 1) includes me (hypothetically. im aroace) and 2) acknowledges me as a man that's based#lesbians are attracted to men. the men in question are men like me who are very genderqueer and sapphic-like#whats the point in being so strict about āoh youre a man so you have nothing to do with lesbiansā#bestie literally in another universe had exactly 1 thing changed about me and id be a transmasc lesbian#literally only 1 single miniscule change away#and you claim men have nothing to do with lesbians#get over yourself. transness is more complex than you think
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frankly idgaf about this disk horse + mandatory disclosure that im not a cop u can do what u want forever u can usr whatever words u want for urself forever love & peace on planet earth. etc. however it does feel disingenuous to say "dykes & lesbians who r only attracted to women's experiences are not & never will be unique there's no dyke who only is attracted to women experience that isn't also experienced by bi ppl / bi dykes / whoever else" when like... there is very much an alienation involved in growing up or just existing while not being attracted to the gender u are societally supposed to b attracted to. some experiences are not in fact universal. and while the idea of sexuality -specific 'spaces' is fundamentally silly and pointless to me i also think it sucks to say 'there is no lived difference between being a woman who is not attracted to men [or the implied counterpart 'there is no lived difference btwn being a man who is not attracted 2 women] vs being a woman who is." like. maybe for YOU there isn't!!!!!!!!! which is 2 say of course that this does feel like perhaps an aha pouncing on wording! type of post, & i wouldn't make it normally. because. as mentioned. this literally only matters if youre terminally online + real world works differently. & idgaf. but the author of the post im vaguing DOES really have the tone here of 'you are stupid and obviously wrong if you think being a lesbian is any different than being bisexual.' which frankly feels overgeneralizing & vague 2 the point where i'm driven 2 make a stupid little tumblr post about it.
#SIGH. roswlel queer dishourse in the year of our lord 2023... surely not.#txt#neg#my credentials here r that im an aro dyke. <- it is more complicated than that i grew up thinking it would b gross 2 be a lesbian and awful#and bad. called myself bi for ages because that felt less awful even though i was exclusively attracted 2 girls. had 2020 moment realized#u could be a nonbinary lesbian mind was blown permanently open. now ive found a couple guys cute or intriguing so like. shrug.#dont really vibe w the label bcos of the gendered connotations sadge. there r dykes in my head though.#only thing that actually has ever been important 2 me irt attraction has been. transness or gender nonconformity but theres no easy#shorthand for that other than t4t </3#anyway. sorry for the incoherent irritated post on a tuesday night!!!!!
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What do you think gay men are attracted to in men that they canāt be attracted to in women?
It canāt be anything about femininity or masculinity obviously. Thatās both sexist, and cultural so canāt be what drives men-only attraction.
It canāt be anything about stated identity because someone could lie just as easily as they could tell the truth in such a statement, and it makes no sense because homosexuality and heterosexuality exists in other species with no stated identities. Itās not like other animals without gender are all pan.
Saying idk itās the vibes or some indescribable trait men have that women canāt but āI canāt explainā is a nonanswer.
Soooooooo what is it? Or do you think any sexuality but bi/pan is just cultural performance or an identity rather than an inborn orientation?
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anon I draw ninja turtles you are asking the wrong person
#noodle talks#not art#ask#girl (gn) what the fuck#also what do you MEAN its sexist to be attracted to femininity or masculinity exclusively what the fuck is this#honestly im only answering this so other people can see it i am so confused#anon who in the fuck is going to lie about gender identity when discussing sexuality like that#and you did not just compare humans to non gendered animals like that#are you trying to make a point with that ??? that isnt relevant at all ??#also why did you ask ME this#there are bloggers out there who talk about shit like this#i am not one of them#i draw silly things and ourple autism turtles where did this come up#where did this come from#like ?? wh#āits sexist to be attracted to feminity and masculinityā some people are literally attracted to those qualities in a person#literally what the fuck is this ask#also IM NOT EVEN A GAY MAN !! IM RARELY A BOYKISSER !!! IM NOT EVEN A MAN !!!#[nb bi lesbian]#i#im too tired for this
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Two weeks after the Gwitch finale and I am getting Sabina Fardin brainrot
#part of it is gender envy#for both her and the rest of the Grassley girls#but also#theres something about them that just itches my brsin#the way their entire identities and presentation is entirelt opposite of all other earthians in the show#they are so obviously feminine while every earthian presents rather masculine#the way you could only know they are earthian because Sabina said it#and something about them being a group of highly skilled and highly feminine girls working as an exclusive unit#and then Sabina inviting Nika to become one of them#lets just say that hit me hard in the trans feelings
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GIRLLLLL!!!!!! I LOVE YOUR BLOG!!! Like plssssss!!!!! never abandon it!!!!!!!!! Btw I am always so looking forward to your writing posts š„° That was it just wanted to say. Thank you missššššššššš
AHSHWJDN HI?? HELLO?? THANK U SM IM GLAD U LIKE MY BLOGS AND WRITING AND I PROMISE I WON'T ABANDON EM šššššš
I LOVE U FOR DROPPING BY MWAH (AND I PROMISE TO GO BACK TO A REGULAR UPDATING SCHEDULE ON MY WRITING BLOG ONCE STRESS OF THE SEMESTER ENDING LEAVES ME !!) š
#answers#btw i mean this in the sweetest politest way but this is a reminder im a nb person š !! also that my preferences are-#i dont care for gendered titles or pronouns at all so u can refer to me with anything and id be fine with it <33 !!#(i dont use neopronouns or it/its pronouns tho !)#but sometimes when i tell ppl im nb + afab they start exclusively calling me feminine titles or using she/her for me only and i think-#'ok ur def using those bc u think im a cis girl not bc im okay with them =_=š¢'#SORRY FOR THE MINI RANT ITS NOT TOWARDS U LOVELY ANON I PROMISE I JUST WANTED TO SAY SUMN š«¶š«¶#SOBS i dont mean to scare anyone to never refer to me either ik ppl do their best im not talking about u guys T_T <3!!!!!!!
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A bit ago I recalled this girl who was saying that in her future relationship she really wants to be the type to hold open doors and give gifts and basically spoke on a lot of things that are considered stereotypically like what a guy does for a girl š and she said she felt bad because she doesnāt want to seem like a guy and that she does that I think for random ppl too š gosh it made me so sad bc I do this all the time and it makes me feel absolutely horrible bc it makes me feel like a dude
#I told her that itās okay and as long as sheās comfortable there is no shame in doing that#in truth it wouldnāt detract from her status as being a girl at the end of the day#kindness is not gendered or exclusive to a particular gender#still it makes me feel quite bad because I hold the door open for everyone regardless of if theyāre a boy or girl#actually only recently has a guy held the door open for me and my classmates who were girls too#he was a groupmate fyi#he just did that for the reason I open the door for guys tho so itās nothing chivalrous?? š#aaaaaaaah I hate thissss#but anyways that girl she felt better and stuff so thatās good !#look at me giving fruits of wisdom abt relationships when I have never nor do I ever wish to be in one#LOLLLLL#dora daily
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Link of the short I'm recommending in the hashtags :0
pls. mlm werewolves when. we r dying over here
I am a lesbian š«¶ this is why I draw so many lesbian werewolves. Iām not a corporation you canāt demand representation from me like that!
BUT ofc Iām going to draw mlm werewolves at some point. Just remember, Iām doing this for free and bc I love werewolves not bc Iām catering to a specific audience lol. There are also soooo many mlm anthro/furry artists out there already holy shit I promise. I may not fill that niche and thatās okay!!
#the following hasthag is from the og post so:#women are already very underrepresented as werewolves let alone lesbians who are werewolves#Not only underrepresented; but you know the meme mocking how they represent males in fantasy species vs females in the same species?#It happens with both werewolves and regular anthro wolves so frequently ToT#It's also duality between that or always attaching to masculinizing the werewolf woman#I'm not against it; I'm myself a girl who likes expressing herself in masculine ways#But bro; werewolfhood is so seen as a masculine concept that a lot of general public portray female werewolves exclusively as masculine#We need more werewolf girls that are traditionally girlie and go big and buff and rock it and they're not portrayed as an evil bait#Shout-out to the indie short Dracu-Date. Yeah; mentioning it in this context might spoil the plot twist; but it's peak u.u#It's a sapphic short BTW u.u#I'm including a link for you guys if you wanna watch it; I never forgot about the short since the first time I saw it :0#Basil Cookie is one of my favourite Cookie Run OCs from the ones I've made not only because of the werewolf bias#I just said: she's a werewolf. Why? And why not? And no matter how much I expand in her story and context;#She's just a chill and cutesy girl who happens to be a werewolf and she's traditionally girly nevertheless#BTW: werewolfhood is not the only concept that is so attached to masculinity thay when making a serious female take it ends being masculine#The āgirlbossā stereotype is also portrayed as a masculine looking woman by a lot of media#Mostly mainstream; but they do it. Bro; female characters can be strong; independent and charismatic without looking masculine ToT#As a final note to the admin: seeing so many different werewolves in this account;#From gender; to ethnicity; to how their wolf traits manifest; to what are they doing... It's something I'm very thankful for#Every day I'm looking forward to see what werewolf will I see; and if that day there's no werewolf it's okay; I'll just wait#We all have lives and keeping a daily blog is difficult; it's okay to take breaks when you need it
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man it's just a neverending cycle of reanalyzing my identity. if i had a nickle for every time a random mini comic on a particular identity and experiences with it gave me a sudden crisis, i'd have two nickles yadda yadda
#it's me#queering shit up#that ''good little bigender'' comic is fucking me UP#remembering that time i said something along the lines of#''there is another universe in which i'm happy as a bigender bisexual aromantic based on the communities i found connection in (and this--#--is not that universe)''#thinking about that comic.#having to ONLY present as masculine or else never be perceived as masculine at all.#we use it/its and ze/hir pronouns exclusively and explicitly do not use they/them in any context#because of people around us using ''they/them'' not as in ''nonbinary person'' but as in ''quirky little girl going through a phase''#because of people ''correctly'' gendering us so they could *deny* us our masculinity#we cut off any hint of our femininity for so long because people would use it to deny our masculinity#but if the line ''well it fucking breaks her heart'' in regards to having to kill your femininity to be seen as anything else doesn't hurt#ouuuuuhghh. having a normal one#time to sleep before we start crying over everything we wished we'd had but had to kill instead lmao
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So I don't know if anyone has been keeping up on this case, but I tried looking for posts on it and I've only found transphobic rants and comments. So just... spreading awareness.
There is an ongoing case in Australia currently (the hearing has concluded but the ruling has not been announced) where Roxy Tickle, a trans woman, is suing the Giggle for Girls app and its founder for $100,000, plus another $100,000. Giggle for Girls is a platform exclusively for women, and Roxy was banned from the app after joining.
The app already has a lot of problematic features on it. For example, any new user is required to submit a selfie-- a photo which is then analyzed by ai to determine whether or not the user is a woman. For Roxy, the ai wasn't the issue, however-- in fact, she used the app for several months with no problem. Instead, the owner of the app manually and purposefully overrode the ai, revoking Roxy's access to the app, because she saw her profile. She then refused to reinstate her account and blocked her.
The founder of the app, Sall Grover, has knowingly and persistently misgendered Roxy dozens of times in interviews, articles and posts. I have a chrome extension that shows if a website is queerphobic or not, and when I look up Roxy's name there are only two results not in red.
As well as this, the additional $100,000 dollars Roxy is suing for? That's because of an online campaign waged against her by Grover, who has a large platform on Twitter. Katherine Deves, who had been representing Giggle in court tried to get the case thrown out. And Grover quite literally called in evolutionary biologist Colin Wright to advocate for her case. He's giving evidence for the trial.
There is a fundraiser to "reclaim sex based rights and protections for all women and girls" created specifically for this case. It has raised over $500,000, and that number is still growing.
Anyways. I don't know if I was just the last one to know about this, but the fact that I even found out about this case was because of a post a terf made scares me.
If anyone else has any more information, please add onto this post! And if I missed anything, or said anything wrong, please correct me.
Thank you for taking this time out of your day.
If you want to read more about the case, I would check out these articles:
#this is not my normal kind of post but it needed to be said#11:11 make a wish#roxy tickle#roxanne tickle#tickle v giggle#transphobia#tw transphobia#court case
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category 11 bisexual moment
#had been slowly coming to the conclusion that i am either only or primarily into men (putting aside briefly the complexities of gender etc).#and fellas. now i dont think thats true!#i feel like.again we are briefly stepping into the gender binary as a baseline. i feel like i am attracted to men in the way that#straight women are attracted to men and the way that men are portrayed as being attractive in popular media.#but i am not attracted to women in the ways that women are portrayed as attractive#like when im attracted to a guy im like thats a hot guy. when im attracted to a girl im like. babygirl that soul is fuckable af#and i also can feel that way about guys but not exclusively#i can be attracted to guys in a really immediate shallow way that I cant as much with girls#im like how people talk about being pan as attraction regardless of gender but i also have access to man specific attraction. you know#and then we put the gender binary back down and its like well. i sure am attracted to some people sometimes#im like if a girl was demipansexual but also sooo gay. for men#do you understand
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Gendered pronouns in Japanese vs English
In Revolutionary Girl Utena, the main character Utena is a girl (it says so in the title), but very conspicuously uses the masculine first person pronoun å (boku) and dresses in (a variation of) the boys school uniform. Utena's gender, and gender in general, is a core theme of the work. And yet, I havenāt seen a single translation or analysis post where anyone considers using anything other than she/her for Utena when speaking of her in English. This made me wonder: how does oneās choice of pronouns in Japanese correspond to what oneās preferred pronouns would be in English?
There are 3 main differences between gendered pronouns in Japanese vs English
Japanese pronouns are used to refer to yourself (first-person), while English pronouns are used to refer to others (third-person)
The Japanese pronoun you use will differ based on context
Japanese pronouns signify more than just gender
Letās look at each of these differences in turn and how these differences might lead to a seeming incongruity between oneās Japanese pronoun choice and oneās English pronoun choice (such as the å (boku) vs she/her discrepancy with Utena).
Part 1: First-person vs third-person
While Japanese does technically have gendered third person pronouns ļ¼å½¼ć彼儳ļ¼ they are used infrequentlyĀ¹ and have much less cultural importance placed on them than English third person pronouns. Therefore, I would argue that the cultural equivalent of the gender-signifying third-person pronoun in English is the Japanese first-person pronoun. Much like English āpronouns in bioā, Japanese first-person pronoun choice is considered an expression of identity.
Japanese pronouns are used exclusively to refer to yourself, and therefore a speaker can change the pronoun theyāre using for themself on a whim, sometimes mid-conversation, without it being much of an incident. Meanwhile in English, Marquis Bey argues that āPronouns are like tiny vessels of verification that others are picking up what you are putting downā (2021). By having others use them and externally verify the internal truth of oneās gender, English pronouns, I believe, are seen as more truthful, less frivolous, than Japanese pronouns. They are seen as signifying an objective truth of the referentās gender; if not objective then at least socially agreed-upon, while Japanese pronouns only signify how the subject feels at this particular moment ā purely subjective.
Part 2: Context dependent pronoun use
Japanese speakers often donāt use just one pronoun. As you can see in the below chart, a young man using äæŗ (ore) among friends might use ē§ (watashi) or čŖå (jibun) when speaking to a teacher. This complicates the idea that these pronouns are gendered, because their gendering depends heavily on context. A man using ē§ (watashi) to a teacher is gender-conforming, a man using ē§ (watashi) while drinking with friends is gender-non-conforming. Again, this reinforces the relative instability of Japanese pronoun choice, and distances it from gender.
Part 3: Signifying more than gender
English pronouns signify little besides the gender of the antecedent. Because of this, pronouns in English have come to be a shorthand for expressing oneās own gender experience - they reflect an internal gendered truth. However, Japanese pronoun choice doesnāt reflect an āinternal truthā of gender. It can signify multiple aspects of your self - gender, sexuality, personality.
For example, å (boku) is used by gay men to communicate that they are bottoms, contrasted with the use of äæŗ (ore) by tops. å (boku) may also be used by softer, academic men and boys (in casual contexts - note that many men use å (boku) in more formal contexts) as a personality signifier - maybe to communicate something as simplistic as āIām not the kind of guy whoās into sports.ļæ½ļæ½ļæ½ äæŗ (ore) could be used by a butch lesbian who still strongly identifies as a woman, in order to signify sexuality and an assertive personality. ē§ (watashi) may be used by people of all genders to convey professionalism. The list goes on.
I believe this is whatās happening with Utena - she is signifying her rebellion against traditional feminine gender roles with her use of å (boku), but as part of this rebellion, she necessarily must still be a girl. Rather than saying āgirls donāt use boku, so Iām not a girlā, her pronoun choice is saying āyour conception of femininity is bullshit, girls can use boku tooā.
Through translation, gendered assumptions need to be made, sometimes about real people. Remember that he/they, she/her, they/them are purely English linguistic constructs, and donāt correspond directly to oneās gender, just as they donāt correspond directly to the Japanese pronouns one might use. Imagine a scenario where you are translating a news story about a Japanese genderqueer person. The most ethical way to determine what pronouns they would prefer would be to get in contact with them and ask them, right? But what if they donāt speak English? Are you going to have to teach them English, and the nuances of English pronoun choice, before you can translate the piece? That would be ridiculous! Itās simply not a viable optionĀ². So you must make a gendered assumption based on all the factors - their Japanese pronoun use (context dependent!), their clothing, the way they present their body, their speech patterns, etc.
If translation is about rewriting the text as if it were originally in the target language, you must also rewrite the gender of those people and characters in the translation. The question you must ask yourself is: How does their gender presentation, which has been tailored to a Japanese-language understanding of gender, correspond to an equivalent English-language understanding of gender? This is an incredibly fraught decision, but nonetheless a necessary one. Itās an unsatisfying dilemma, and one that poignantly exposes the fickle, unstable, culture-dependent nature of gender.
Notes and References
Ā¹ Usually in Japanese, speakers use the personās name directly to address someone in second or third person
Ā² And has colonialist undertones as a solution if you ask me - āYou need to pick English pronouns! You ought to understand your gender through our language!ā
Bey, Marquisā 2021 Re: [No Subject]āOn Nonbinary Gender
Rose divider taken from this post
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