#fuck gifted kid programs
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When I use the term “burnt out gifted kid” for myself I just want it to be known that I’m referring to basically every year since seventh grade. Like it’s not something that hit me in adulthood or high school, I’ve been in a constant pattern of minor academic success and subsequent burnout leading to failure and just scraping by to make it to the next year. I’m good at one thing and that’s testing, so the minute that homework became a major factor in grades I was fucked. Every bit of disability I experience now was happening then I was just so dissociative it didn’t register for years. By burnt out I mean I’m trying to grow out of the ashes of myself, I was charcoal a decade ago and stem programs were fucking lighter fluid and a match.
#idk I just feel like I see people using the term in all sorts of different and frequently ableist ways#I should’ve been receiving support and instead I was put in high pressure environments that ruined my ability to care for myself for years#I don’t miss being told I was better and smarter than other students because I never believed it#maybe if I was in special ed or support classes I wouldn’t be still trying to scrape by and finish my degree at 21#burnout#burnt out gifted kid#audhd#fuck gifted kid programs#all my homies hate the math and science center
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typical asian parents disappointed that their child miraculously escaped the torture school
#tmagp#the magnus protocol#listen i can say that bc my own parents forced me to stay in the gifted kid program and now#at the age of 27 i still have nightmares about being stuck in that school#they were like 'ur too special to not be in the gifted kids program'#saying this to a child who dissociated a whole year#i have 3 memories of that year. 12 months and i was so out of my body i can remember almost nothing#ugh sorry for the sudden trauma dump#ive been having school dreams again and its fucking me up
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specialized education and gifted children programs are so fucked up I see the purpose but the execution and expectations are genuinely horrific I've yet to meet a single one of us that's doing okay besides from those who just reached their breaking point and chose to stop caring
#gifted kid burnout#It's so fucked up the emotional stress levels we're normalizing and the expectations to do the best and be the best when everyone#Has been told they're the best and special#Middle school high school college etc should be learning times yes and expose you to new things#The opportunities provided are wonderful and its really cool how many programs you can have access to#But the competition and stress shoved into a relatively short time period isn't productive for helping kids learn and try new things#Especially since they're expected to be a fully functioning adult afterwords with little to no prioritization of information#That could help with that transition#I'm very frustrated with the American education system I don't know enough about other countries education to comment on theirs#Cue rambles#ESPECIALLY NEURODIVERGENT PEOPLE OH MY GOD#I would like to say something about that but I want to do more research on that besides from me just speaking from experience and people#Around me
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The fact that my entire life was ruined because of a math test in 4th grade
#if that stupid fucking magnet program hadn't looked at math#I would have had a chance at getting in#I wouldn't have to watch my sister be a “gifted child” going off to a smart people program and getting picked again for it in highschool#and suffer a total ego death#and the worst part is everyone who's like "its not a competition! Stop comparing yourselves! Your special in your own way!#that is the biggest cope i've heard in my fucking life'#yes its a competition. that's how society is. the existence of 'gifted' kids implies non gifted kids#if there are winners there are losers#and it's not enough for me to succeed. I need her to fail. I need to be good at something she's not thats actually socially Impressive#actually maybe I'll just kill myself before I see her get into fucking Yale or something#childhoods almost over might as well reload and try again#vent
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discovered yesterday that the reason my mom disliked my kindergarten teacher wasn’t because she was rude to me, but because the teacher told her that i may be autistic
sooooooooooooooo
the clues were there all along
#like the teacher didn’t SAY autistic#but she did say ‘slow’ which is the euphemism for autistic (and my mom implied when telling my sister that it was with a tone™️)#anyway#ya learn something new!#this actually explains so much#also fuck you for making that be the reason i wasn’t allowed in the gifted kids program#would that have fucked up my already fucked up mental state when it comes to academics like it did my siblngs? yes but that’s unimportant#I HAVE MY PRIDE DAMMIT#also my sister and i are fairly confident that our whole family mayhaps be on the spectrum#(definitely my mom)#(i am still 95% sure the adhd symptoms are from my dad but again i am diagnosed for neither)#(the only real self-diagnosis i can confidently account for is my depression!)#*coughs* anyway
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Someone insisting we don't learn language intuitively unless homeschooled...Did...did your parents put in you in school at 18 months of age? Did a teacher go around a room of toddlers with a dictionary saying, "This is what 'mama' means"? Because if the answer to that is no--and it is definitely no--you learned language intuitively, like everyone else. The finer points you learn in school, and later on your own, but even as you're doing that, you're still picking up words and phrases just by talking to people and reading.
#I was perfectly polite in my response to her#but she clearly wants to have a superiority complex#“you must have been homeschooled by an illiterate”#wasn't homeschooled and in fact excelled in English and creative writing classes#and happen to come from a family with three English teachers and two university professors thank you very much#language is and has been a particular interest of mine#when I did manage to get hold of a dictionary and thesaurus after leaving my mother to live with my nana#(one of the aforementioned English teachers) I pored over those for hours#but I didn't learn every word there is to know#that would be impossible#I was also an avid reader#I have learned many words from the dictionary or actively looking them up#but I've also learned intuitively because that is the primary way we learn language#sometimes the words you learn intuitively end up not being to the accepted definition#that's just how it goes#when writing you try to catch yourself#particularly on proof-read#like there's a fucking reason it's much more difficult to acquire a new language after the age of 10 years#and it's not because we become less adept at reading a dictionary or thesaurus after that age#but hey if we want to make baseless assumptions I'll assume she was one of those kids in the gifted program#who never got over the fact it meant absolutely nothing
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hate to break it to yall but a lot of kids who were designated as gifted in like elementary school in fact did absolutely not fit easily into the school system. in fact, that difficulty with the system is often the very reason they get the label gifted in the first place.
#i do very much agree with a lot of the criticism against people who make having been designated gifted their entire personality#like absolutely 100% those people tend to be the fucking worst. but i think that those critiques are always based on the american school#system that apparently has such a thing as a gifted program that separates out those kids to make them just insufferable.#whereas majority of kids in the situation of being stamped as gifted in fact never benefit from that and yeah often suffer from burnout#later because teachers don’t pay attention to them and expect them to just be able to handle anything. not to mention they’re very often#neurodivergent and suffering from bullying from peers and frankly not rarely from teachers also.#i don’t see how conflating the two categories is really helpful.#like kids on both ends of the adults’ imaginary spectrum from learning disability and gifted are ultimately made to suffer by the very#system we are criticizing.#p
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Being a gifted kid is great until years later you realize you’ve developed a fear of failure but it’s okay because it hasn’t affected you that bad yet.
Then you try to learn a new video game to play with your significant other only to instantly get an anxiety attack because you feel so stupid for not understanding. They’re not putting any expectations on you, and if they are, they’re expecting you to do bad at first- but it doesn’t matter bc what are you even doing if you’re not good at it instantly.
not that I would know or anything just heard it from my friend’s brother’s second cousin’s ex’s dog.
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So like the other day i found out that my country and also my school district had gifted kid programs, only four people in my class at the time got tested for gifted, and i'm just going absolutely insane over it.
My class at the time had basically everyone in the same group and then a couple of outcasts-- it pisses me off soooo sosososo much that only the "top four smartest girls" in the main group got tested. I'm so mad. I feel like everyone else was personally failed by those teachers.
-what about the outcasts who are clearly "not normal"? Giftedness is supposed to be o special need, 2e kids are even more in need of help to feel normal
-what about the kids who were so smart that they were just completely fucking bored and checked out of class? The ones who didn't participate because they knew too much and got bored too easily?
Literally what about like, everyone who wasn't given the opportunity to be tested, the space to be told "you can be accepted for the differences in your brain"? I am just so mad at these teachers and i know, out of those thirty people, four who got tested, three who passed, and at least two who should have been allowed the test, who i feel were given up on by the people who should have wanted to help them. Ostracized not only by their peers but also by their teachers for being "too weird", not fitting in, when the point was! To make these kids fit in and succeed. I'm so mad
#Tbf my district's gifted program sucked#And interestingly i joined the friend group where both the gifted program kids who didn't transfer out were in#Had no idea the gifted program existed lol#I asked and they told me they just got pulled out of class once a week to make popsicle stick bridges#My bf said he was also in gifted but they had a separate class for the gifted kids#And all it got him was extra time on tests plus friends who didn't do too many hard drugs#:3 i know that the experience wasn't like too lifechanging but just the fucking principle of this shit
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ALSO first programming class today and it was practically all logic puzzles to teach how the logic of it functions lmao I am Thriving
#just handed the former gifted kid and current ze buff a fucking puzzle I was literally vibrating off the ground with excitement#friend who's very far ahead in terms of programming knowledge said he feels like I'm gonna like it a lot#Void fala aí
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Sick of this shit
#i want to kms violently in front of the people who admitted her into those fucking magnet programs and not me#I want them to admit it at least I’m tired of being gaslit by the entire education system#I’m not as smart as her. you decided she was gifted and I’m not#if there are gifted kids then there are non gifted kids#and clearly gifted kids at least to you are superior#acedemically intelligently socially it doesn’t matter you decided they’re superior#and I’m inferior#and you left me to come to that conclusion on my own#but when I confront you then it’s all ‘ohh your smart ohhh don’t compare yourself to others’#like shut the fuck up. YOU created that comparison when you came up with the concept of a gifted program that only some people get in#and further more when you set me back in other classes#you made that comparison first and now you act like it doesn’t matter#so while she gets every opportunity handed to her you stick me in average or below level classes#you could at least be honest and tell me I’m retarded#we both know it’s true.#asking for a rope for Christmas im not spending another year on an earth where she’s happy#vent
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i wonder when ppl will understand that sometimes people on multiple sections of a societal scale will face a disadvantage and need extra help, support, or reparations for those things because the hurt usually stems from the same position of power anyways
#marzi speaks#thinking abt the whole gifted kid/dropout kid thing#or gifted programs vs sped vs what have you#i don’t like how often former gifted kids and former ‘underachievers’ argue with each other over who has it worse#when clearly all of us were damaged by the school system#which sorted and classified children into arbitrary groups at a young age#set expectations that would not change or grow with the children#and then refused to see the children as anything else for the next 12 years#like we were all hurt by the same exact system. let’s team up about that#instead of fighting over a spotlight. let’s share it and remind ppl that hey the education system is fucked up#been thinking abt it with disability too. bc i’m going from a glass child to a disabled adult#and bc my brain never leaves things alone i’m wondering what potential support group convos may end up looking like for#for me*
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I did not come out of the womb thinking I was special and better than everyone else. Adults around me told me that I was and burned it into my brain that I was going to achieve more than everyone around me because of “inherent ability”. When I instead ended up as a gay, trans, disabled and mentally ill community college attendee, I was perceived as having wasted my talent when in reality, I was just a weirdly perceptive child. I was never better than anyone else. Putting that much pressure on a 8 year old was fucking weird
ohhhhh I get it now. the "gifted kid" discourse exists because people see it fundamentally as a sign of Privilege and not as a largely meaningless category that puffs up weird children before setting them up for the same unremarkable lives as everyone else; thus they interpret people going "the educational system gave me false expectations before ultimately abandoning me to the same heartless world as everyone else" as "why am I, The Main Character, not getting everything I ever wanted."
#why the fuck do we even label children as gifted if we don’t find education enough for it to mean anything anyway????#especially when in reality children not labeled as gifted actually need more support#but instead we’re putting money into putting gifted kids into a room to do puzzles#at this point I’m convinced that gifted programs are state funded psychological experiments
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was also crazy how after i got my adhd diagnosis around 16 and i was telling my all my friends about it everybody and i mean fucking everybody peer and teacher alike told me it was extremely obvious and they just assumed i was already diagnosed. which is wild because of the aforementioned getting diagnosed at 16.
#my brother was diagnosed at 5 and my parents decided not to evaluate me#which i get bc my brother has So Much adhd that if that was your only impression of it#you'd think i was totally 100% average. especially as a kid when i was very withdrawn and quiet#but literally any time i had any sort of trouble in school the teacher or admin would try to tell my parents#hey your kid is fucking weird. can you get her checked for weird disorder. without actually being able to say#your kid seems ADHD or autistic bc i didn't really fit the stereotypical profile for either#and also i was in the ' gifted program ' and there was this idea i kept being told that i like#just had a really fast brain & sensitive senses and every smart person just happened to show signs of#neurodivergence. so that was also an issue. hell my high school guidance counselor also said that#and then i was like no i have adhd i don't have fucking. I'm not the flash or whatever I have a condition
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OH FUCK ITS GERTRUDE
#THE JUMPSCARE#aliens can talk#tmagp spoilers#tmagp#OH SAM JUST STRAIGHT UP ASKED#TO HIS FACE#GIFTED KIDS PROGRAM HOLY SHIT#????#what is YTHIS#oh sam you dumb fuck you shoulsnt be asking thissss#WHAT DO YOU KNOW
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prev i am now so angry that physics/chemistry isn’t doing better. its like if math had a baby with every bad part of science. sucks doodoo dogshit
#OKAY LIKE I ENJOY CHEMISTRY A BIT BETTER ADMITTEDLY… I LIKED THE TIMES YOU ACTUALLY GOT TO *DO* THINGS WITH CHEMICALS#AND TURNING CHEMICALS INTO OTHER CHEMICALS#THAT STUFFS GREAT#I JUST HATE HOW MATH GETS INCORPORATED INTO PHYSICS IT LEGITIMATELY KILLED BOTH PASSIONS FOR ME#or at least how it GOT incorporated. for me#like with regular math and regular other sciences i get gucking PISSED because i’m fucking CERTAIN that if i had a better teacher with a be#better method of teaching i could have literally gone to fucking college for any of those subjects#its#BULLSHIT#FUCK#I WENT FROM FUCKING GIFTED TO BARELY LEGIBLE#that was also a my own brain thing but like my art skill kept improving despite the failure of everything else for a while…#they COULD have been nourished the way that was!!#god i did this chemistry program for kids at a nearby college in sixth grade and they had us in the field testing pollution levels#in the river and the microbial diversity and shit and it was SO FUCKING COOOOL#GOD i want to get back out there to our rancid ass river with a test tube now. how does one accuire the requisite chemical for phosphates
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