#from the river to the sea hamas will fucking burn

[myserioussideblog]

it gives me a good laugh when i see a pro-palestine post which likens hamas to idk some freedom fighters or something.

because then i'll go to their profile, and see that little emoji.

that multicoloured rectangle.

the fucking pride flag.

YOU support....? HAMAS? REALLY.

You just TRY walking in with your pride flag badge and your neopronouns or whatever is the latest fad in the scene. You could be there to provide aid. You could have been their fiercest fighter. You could have fucking paid every fucking penny out of your pocket to help them.

THEY. WON'T. CARE.

YOU, my dear, will be tortured and killed. Because that's Islam. And that's Hamas.

Your little posts on Instagram and Tumblr and X are going to do jackshit if you're supporting those whose main goal is to commit global jihad and result in a global caliphate, kill all those who do not follow their religion, and, of course... the LGBTQ+ people. YOU.

I'm not saying Israel is perfect (gay marriages abroad are recognised, but gay marriages cannot be conducted on Israeli soil, which is understandable, it is a Jewish country) but it has a strict policy against discrimination against LGBTQ+ people.

Logic, common sense and sanity suggest steering clear of being murdered for who they are.

When have the "wokes" ever had any of those things?

But the fact that these are the same people who have just begun to realise that a hijab isn't a choice doesn't give me much hope that this will go through their thick heads. Where is the outrage over CPL Noa Marciano?? She was MURDERED by a religion that not only justifies but rewards it.

What is happening to civilians on both sides is monstrous, but the focus should be on eradicating the parasite that is Hamas (and all other jihadi groups) from the face of the earth.

It is borderline pathetic that you are so terrified of offending someone that you will support them, even if they spit on and rape and murder you because of something you didn't choose.

[jisreal64]

Wolverine is me whenever an anti-Israel charities ask me for money:

[nerdylilpeebee]

People who claim Israel was defending themselves need to fucking kill themselves.

DEFENSELESS AND INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN WERE KILLED!

THATS NOT DEFENDING!

PALESTINE IS THE TRUE INNOCENT VICTIM

ISRAEL NEEDS TO BURN!

ISRAEL DOESNT DESERVE TO EXIST!

PALESTINE DOES!

PROMINENT CEASEFIRE!

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE!!!!!🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

Hamas capitalized a decades-long campaign of slaughtering innocent israeli's by butchinger over 1400 innocent israeli's, which included children, and kidnapped over 230 more, again including children AND LITERAL BABIES.

You can't claim Palestine is innocent when it's government literally started this war by doing what you're condemning.

Especially since the immediately jumped to hiding behind civilians so any action Israel takes in response gets morons like you to cry about how evil they are.

[lazykurocat]

I know most of this has been said far better by others but holy shit do I need to rant! I find it really sad yet funny how people will still try so hard to claim they aren't antisemitic and then be like"Israel shouldn't exist" that's one of the most bullshit things I've ever heard anyone say, then there's "I hate Zionist" when clearly you don't have the first clue about Zionism, it is simply put: Jewish people wanting a safe place to live, they've always been outcast everywhere so why is it so bad that they'd have their place? they've always been there and always will be in Israel. if you are anti-Zionist you are anti Jew. I've seen people try to claim that Israel started Hamas...?? like? what??no... sis you good?. most people, even now still don't know which river and which sea and it's embarrassing! I know I often come at this topic from a queer lens as I'm gay and trans and not Jewish personally, but honestly I'm scared both for Jewish people, and my fellow queers, Jewish folk I know personally have said to me they don't feel safe I don't feel safe around a lot of people anymore aswell for my queerness, because they claim to be allies... but how can you be my ally when you support Palestine? they fucking hate LGBT+ folk there, we are not welcome there, we would be killed there so to say "I'm an ally" feels so fake to me. to be part of the LGBT and still support that living hell of a place and act as though Israel started this and Palestine only wants peace and freedom? are you mad??! are you insane?? I only feel bad for people who want to be free from Hamas rule. and for the poor children who are raised into thinking Suicide bombing is a good thing and they should do it. not those who willingly support throwing my people off buildings and burn our flags. I will never fucking support Palestine as it is now EVER. if more people started saying free Palestine/Gaza from Hamas that would be a great fucking start. I am so fucking pissed off with some people my fucking lord. and another fucking thing! stop acting like Israel started October 7th! Israelis were murdered over nothing, I watched videos of Hamas shooting and killing people and even dogs. They are monsters they are rapists! you are supporting baby killers! you are supporting the real genocide! NEVER FORGET THE TRUTH OF OCTOBER 7th, because Hamas want to kill us all, Jewish, gay, trans, Queer, non Muslim! they are terrorists, they want to do October 7th over and over and over and over until there are no Jews left! FUCK HAMAS

[ofdinosanddais1]

"from the river to the sea"

Why are you posting a slogan that explicitly calls for Jewish genocide?

Congrats everyone, saying that Palestinians should not be genocided means that you want Jewish people to be genocided.

Do y'all realize you're using the same tactics that abusers use to manipulate their victims? You sound like you'd respond "well i guess i'll just kill myself" to someone telling you that you genuinely hurt them because you don't want to face that your consequences have actions.

Maybe listen to the thousands of Jewish people who are also calling for Palestine to be free. You don't give a fuck about Jewish people. You give a fuck about Israel winning.

Zionists are religious extremists. They don't represent Jewish people just like how the Duggar Family cult doesn't represent Christians.

But also if you weren't a coward, you would have sent this to me off anon so I could actually block your ass and move on. I see exactly what you want and you want a reaction. You don't give a shit about a single Jewish person. You give a shit about letting religious extremists murder innocent men, women, and children. You give a shit about allowing religious extremists to overpolice a population based on an identity they are born into. You give a shit about letting religious extremists hold an entire city hostage while they're dropping bombs on them while those same religious extremists are CHEERING ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHILDREN. You care about those religious extremists who don't even want their own people to be free from Hamas because they're embarrassed that Hamas didn't abuse them like they're probably doing to Palestinians.

From the river to the sea, Palestinians will be free.

Maybe listen to the actual Jewish people who are agreeing that Zionism is fucked up and that Palestinians should be free and not to the bullshit of the decapitated and burned babies that NOT EVEN ISRAEL CAN CONFIRM.

Gtfo my page with this bullshit or at least take yourself off anon so I can block your racist, Islamophobic ass.

[srk8t]

hi, this is not something that i usually post, but I'd like to get it off from my chest since ive kept this for quite a long time and talking it on tumblr is my only hope to do so.

please don't stop talking about Palestine.

no matter where I go, what social media that i use, there are always consistently something that has been preventing me and thousands of others from speaking out our voices, and to my surprise, even ROBLOX. FUCKING ROBLOX. IS A VICTIM OF THIS.

STOP SILENCING OUR VOICES. STOP LYING TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR PATHETIC BLOOD MONEY WHEN INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND LOVING MOTHERS HAVE SUFFERED IN THIS GENOCIDE.

thousands and hundreds of money wasted for the sake of war instead of using it to help the homeless and those who are in need. Do you think the world is a big stage for you to sit down in your air conditioned room while crossing your legs on the couch, while watching others suffer?

I have never been more UPSET to see how selfish and brutal these "people" are, calling palestinians "human animals" and saying they are savages while hamas are terrorists when theyve released hostages, and have done nothing but be nice to the said hostages. WHILE THE WHITE AND BLUE STATE REFUSES TO TAKE THE SAID HOSTAGES BACK.

I am unable to speak with such anger and show my frustrations elsewhere, as that'll only result in my socials being banned or shadow banned. I've seen this story play itself out more times than one might assume, as i observed from afar just to see what people all around the world treat muslims and islam itself. It is different, I grew up in a country where a vast majority are muslims while other religions can peacefully coexist.

I grew up hearing about palestine and gaza ever since I was in elementary school. Malaysia has tried to speak upon this but perhaps at that time, people just didn't care enough or, our voices were silenced.

I've seen white men fighting against defenseless nations. I've seen westerners blaming how islam teaches its followers horrible things. I've seen americans calling countless muslims as terrorists. But i have yet to see anyone, LITERALLY anyone calling the one who is in the wrong the actual terroist.

"I'm not educated enough to talk about this!"

THEN EDUCATE YOURSELF.

"This doesn't affect me"

THEN EDUCATE YOURSELF.

"Both are in the wrong and it has nothing to do with me nor my country"

If you as human are willing to defend genocide and "stay neutral", you are a coward to wake up and face reality. You called us terrorists as if it's a word that can easily be used whenever you like. And why again, are these white supremacists fighting against people who have no army and are defenseless in power? Is it perhaps they as well are afraid if they go for a bigger target who has the same, equal power as them?

THIS IS A PUBLIC GENOCIDE, THEY WANT TO WIPE PALESTINE OFF THE MAP. EDUCATE YOURSELF.

I've seen a loooot of isnotreal dick riders, and willing to go on lengths of texts just to justify genocide... do you get paid to do so? do you feel a sense of relief by wasting your time instead of doing something more useful and educational? Or are you turning a blind eye to the real problem? Your eyes are clear as skies, but your heart is an empty void of ignorance.

I am tired of staying silent for long. How many lives would it take until it will make people finally be aware? Once a colonizer, you are always a colonizer. From the river to the sea, palestine will be free. I was a young and clueless girl when i first heard this story. But I've grown and learned the hard ways of life and its rules. this time, i will not stay silent.

this time, i will not let my voice go unspoken

and this time, i will keep on fighting and spread awareness about palestine and the thousands of years that they have suffered.

If you burn, you'll burn with us.

[jellybeanium124]

xxx

I'm angry in this one btw. real properly angry. I don't wanna talk about this because I know some of y'all are thiiiiis close to blocking me for not falling in line and being a good little jew and repeating the slogans thoughtlessly, but I'm so mad and scared and nobody cares at all and I wanna shut up about it so I don't lose all my goyische friends but I can't I just can't.

hm maybe people are being arrested because there is some violence and this is terrifying jewish students?? and I think the author of this article is way too kind to these students. they hail hamas as heroes. they don't think the innocent civilian hostages should be released for the crime of being israeli. they champion themselves as being antiracist when ANTISEMITISM IS AN ETHNIC PREJUDICE YOU DUMB FUCKING CHAZERS!!!

jews are terrified.

rabbis are telling us to stay home.

whenever there's an "assembly" on the uni I live by, I'm terrified it'll turn violent. I'm terrified they'll burn down or deface the clearly labelled building where the jewish org lives.

I stopped wearing my magen david because I'm terrified of my peers, my peers who are supposed to be inclusive and love everyone regardless of ethnicity, seeing that I'm jewish and harassing me or worse.

the average college campus is less safe for jews than it has been in decades.

the optics of your movement are shit. you're infested with jew haters, and no one seems to care!! no goy cares, because you all care more about hating israel than not hating jews. and hating israel turns into hating jews so, so quickly. I want palestine to be a free nation. I want this war to end. but none of you understand that as long as hamas exists peace cannot happen. none of you understand that if you hate israelis you're a fucking antisemite lol sorry. if you want every israeli dead, you want half the world's jews dead. if you don't think that makes you an antisemite, lemme give you another example. let's say you want all black americans dead (not all black people are american, in fact, less than half the world's black population are in america). are you racist? YES. same fucking logic here.

saw a video the other day where some dumbfuck was like "have you considered that all hamas knows is oppression and hatred? 🥺" THESE ARE GROWN ADULTS!! YOU RACIST FUCKING INFANTILIZING FUCKING IDIOT!! THEY ARE GROWN ADULT HUMANS AND YOU ARE TREATING THEM LIKE BABIES AND CLAIM TO BE ANTIRACIST??? if you see POC as too innocent to be bad, then you are falling for the noble savage stereotype all over again. has that stereotype historically been attributed to arab people? no. but it definitely fucking is now with the way y'all think rape and terrorism is excusable.

none of you fucking idiots see anyone involved as full humans because none of you have a goddamn piece in it. you see palestinians as innocent babies who could never rape or hurt anyone, and you see israelis as demons to be exterminated. you're racist, you're hateful, you're not helping anything, and I hope you will one day be so, so ashamed of the fear you've instilled in jews worldwide while seeing them as genociding monsters regardless of ties to israel or anything, as well as the myopic infantilizing racist way you view arab people.

and one last thing: "FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA" IS ANTISEMITIC. IT'S A SLOGAN ENDORSED BY HAMAS. IF YOU ARE CHANTING THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER GUESS WHAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ANTISEMITIC PROTEST, SORRY. you can't reclaim that slogan, it is calling for the destruction of israel, which will lead to jewish genocide, or just a massive jewish refugee crisis if they're lucky and hamas doesn't succeed in their goal of exterminating the jews.

[gryficowa]

You have proof that Zionism has reached Poland, you have this article…

"In today's anti-Israel protests, traditional anti-Semitism has been joined by Holocaust denial and rhetoric questioning Israel's legitimacy as a state. These are not only remnants of March '68 and anti-Zionist Soviet propaganda, but also elements of Western political culture that reached Poland after 1989. The war in Gaza overshadowed the war in Ukraine. There are protests on college campuses all over the world. Similar ones also appeared in Warsaw, Kraków and Wrocław. The issue is niche, but due to its international nature it becomes a complex issue"

Oh yes, Ukraine is always supposed to come first, because they are white… If your head hurts, I warn you, it will only get worse

"Every war has its opponents. However, what is important is how the narrative is formulated and in what circumstances. Poland has quite a rich tradition of protests against wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine or the Caucasus, but they did not create an atmosphere of hatred against Americans or Russians on such a scale as the war in Gaza against Jews. The tragedy of the families of the hostages and those murdered on October 7 last year is passed over in silence and covered with phrases such as "slaughter", "Holocaust" or simply "genocide", and many of those who demand to look at the war in a broader context do not notice that they themselves take only a Palestinian perspective."

This isn't war, this is fucking genocide!

"It may be true that most of the world's protesters against the Gaza war are not motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment. The problem is that they use slogans such as "strike strike Tel-Aviv", "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" or "Go back to Poland", addressed directly to American Jews. During speeches at protests, statements about solidarity "with the Palestinian resistance" are often heard, but the speakers do not want to say directly who they mean"

I warned you it would be even worse

It's classic that the lyrics of "From the River to the Sea" are the words of terrorists (What everyone knows is a lie)

"Even before October 7, one could find on the Internet a photo taken by a group of activists of the Razem party from Poznań with banners in Polish: "You don't have to be a Muslim to support the inhabitants of Gaza, you just need to be a human being" and "Free Palestine", and in English: "From the river to the sea" and "Blaming Hamas for firing rockets is like blaming woman for punching her rapist." The choice of slogans is not accidental - in Polish there are solidarity slogans, in English there is one postulating the construction of Palestine from the Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea, i.e. on the entire territory of Israel, the second portraying a terrorist organization already responsible for a huge number of murders as an innocent victim"

(Greetings to the pro-Palestinian Jews who are reading this now and holding their heads)

"People who speak out about Israel and participate in protests do not always consider themselves anti-Semites, but they often openly express dislike for Israelis as a collective. Their narrative is shaped by Al-Jazeera, the English-language website Middle East Eye associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, multilingual channels on Telegram, groups of influencers and podcasters. They call themselves "anti-Zionists," not anti-Semites, and they tolerate Jews from the diaspora as long as they have a worldview that is consistent with their own.

Middle Eastern topics are quite niche and complicated, but people under the influence of propaganda they describe as anti-Zionist live in the belief that they have knowledge that "lemmings" lack, "Zionists" are fascists, and Hamas "is innocent of the radicalization of Palestinians", unlike Israel. Therefore, they create an atmosphere of prejudice leading to extreme attitudes"

I'm guessing those Jews who burned the Israeli flag are also anti-Semitic?

"On a national scale, Krakow has become the city where the scope of activities of local Palestinians is the largest and enjoys support and legitimization from local activists and left-wing politicians. The Educational and Cultural Association of Palestinians in Poland operates here, whose vice-president, Omar Faris, appears at demonstrations in Krakow, in Warsaw and is a frequent guest of the mainstream media.

He has lived in Poland for a very long time, speaks Polish fluently and has a rich history of romanticizing and justifying terrorism. He said about Palestinian suicide bombers: "I condemn all these acts, but it is the greatest act of heroism on their part that someone sacrifices themselves for the cause. They will be like candles in the tunnel for our nation. I feel sorry for these 20-year-olds, but we don't have F-16s, Apaches, we don't have tanks - we only have ourselves"

"This is a statement from December 2001. Three months earlier, there was a suicide attack on New York and Washington, and Palestinian terrorists blew themselves up in Israeli public transport buses. Omar Faris does not admit to having any connections with such groups, he is closer to the official authorities of the Autonomy and Fatah. Sam says, that he met two Polish presidents - Aleksander Kwaśniewski and Lech Kaczyński, Marek Edelman, John Paul II, and met Yasser Arafat 11 times.

Fatah has recognized Israel's right to exist since 1988 and renounces terrorism, but Omar Faris nostalgically remembers the years of terrorism and he happened to commemorate criminals associated with this organization. On March 11, 2013, he posted on social media commemorating Dalal Mughrabi, one of the perpetrators of the terrorist attack on March 11, 1978, in which 38 hostages died, including 13 children."

It's already starting, September 11 and Islamophobia, that's standard

"Faris is known in radical left circles, but he also maintains contacts with the radical right. He writes in the neo-National Democrats' "Myśl Polska": "Can a country with a history like Poland, from a moral point of view, afford positive relations with the fascist apartheid state? I feel Polish, I started a family in Poland, I live with Poles. But I also feel the connection between our nations through cruel parallels in our history.”"

Classic emotional blackmail, typical in Zionism

"He also organized an anti-Israel protest during the March of the Living in Oświęcim. He has developed quite an interesting propaganda model: sometimes he shares Ewa Kurek's text and calls the Holocaust a "fairy tale", other times he contradicts his statements and proclaims that he has friends among the Jews. He also transfers the Palestinian issue to the field of Polish anti-Semitism: "Jews from all over the world have taken over our homes and are still trying to take over those left in Poland. And we, the inhabitants of that land for three thousand years, have no rights," he said in 2009. This is a reference to the fear of Jews popular in Poland, who survived the war and will claim their pre-war property, which was taken over by Poles after the war"

I am not afraid of Jews, I am afraid of this Zionist propaganda

"It became active again after the Hamas attack and the start of the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip. On November 5, 2023, at a demonstration in front of the presidential palace, he stated: "Hamas is part of the Palestinian resistance movement. There is no evidence that 1,400 Israelis were murdered." None of the participants reacted, nor did the organizers. He repeated his theses on Tok FM in Jacek Żakowski's program."

Israel is good, Hamas is bad, it's time for CS

"On April 29, he stated on TVP Info: "I believe that Netanyahu does not want to release the hostages. I don't know if you've heard of the Hannibal Doctrine, it's a doctrine that doesn't allow a living soldier to be in the hands of the enemy. And I will tell you an experience that Israel did. On October 7, Palestinian doctors examined these hostages and it turned out that everyone has a GPS chip under their skin. The speech was interrupted. Faris tried to say that two hours later, the place where the chips were allegedly left was bombed by the Israelis. Chips is an echo of conspiracy theories during the pandemic, additionally supplemented with a vision of Jews as people who naturally strive for bloodshed, no matter for what purpose and at what cost."

"Dr. Anna Zawadzka from the Polish Academy of Sciences stated in a recent interview that the Hamas attack was a quote from the pogroms against Jews in Europe and that "unlike the Polish and Western left, Hamas ideologists are knowledgeable about the history of anti-Semitism." This can be seen in the "Hamas Charter" of 1988, which states, among other things, that Jews are responsible for starting the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution and World War I, and that they control the United Nations and are supported by imperial forces in the West. He also recognizes as true the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which, according to many contemporary anti-Semites, reflect the spirit of the state of Israel"

But will we ignore the fact that Israel stole Yemeni children and killed Palestinian Jews? You can see that anti-Semitism only exists when it targets white Jews…

"These are just some of the themes from the manifesto, apart from jihadism and references to national liberation struggles, but very important when it comes to internationalizing the cause for which Hamas is fighting. Since the Six-Day War, anti-Israel rhetoric has appeared on the radical left. But the rhetoric of the far right has also changed .To traditional anti-Semitism, a carbon copy of the 1930s, as well as Holocaust denial and rhetoric questioning the legitimacy and legality of Israel as a state"

Do I have to comment on this shit?

"These are not only remnants of March '68 and anti-Zionist Soviet propaganda, but also elements of Western political culture that reached Poland after 1989, which is why from the activists' point of view they simply seem to be a natural component of the leftist worldview. Especially when decades have passed since World War II, and Jews are no longer a national minority in Europe, but a nation that has its own state, recognized by the West.

The Krakow Palestinians and their leader gather left-wing activists, including politicians of the Razem party, at their events. On the Internet you can find, among others: photo of the candidate in the European Parliament elections, Dorota Kolarska, wearing a scarf in the colors of Palestine with the words "Jerusalem, we are coming" in Arabic, accompanied by Omar Faris. When asked about this, Kolarska replied by e-mail:"

Mental tricks, but they mentioned "Soviet", so it will work for a gray Pole -_-

"“In the Razem party, we clearly oppose the policy of apartheid, which, according to international and Israeli human rights organizations, is being pursued by Israel in its own and occupied territories. Since October 2023, we have repeatedly expressed our condemnation of the terrorist attacks of Hamas, at the same time demanding an arms embargo on Israel and calling for a ceasefire. The path to freedom and prosperity of one nation or state cannot lead through the oppression and death of civilian citizens of another. My participation in the pro-Palestinian demonstrations calls for an immediate ceasefire and for assistance to be provided to those most in need, he declares. At the same time, he adds: - I do not know Mr. Faris personally, and his statements and views were not known to me. After reading them, I conclude that that I firmly distance myself from them and do not share them in any way. At the same time, it does not change my views regarding Israel's actions.""

Here's a quote from the leftist platform, so yeah

"Genocide rhetoric is very common among left-wing activists. They often recall the situation in the West Bank, which they compare to apartheid. What do they prefer to remain silent about? It is undeniable that war crimes are taking place in Gaza, some of which can be categorized as crimes against humanity, however, the main goal of the war is to destroy Hamas and release the hostages. This has no impact on the moral assessment or the level of possible criminal record of the perpetrators, but it completely obscures the image of the conflict. The issue of the Hamas attack on the kibbutzim and its background is shrouded in silence."

This is what I feel when I read and paste the translation of this shit

"Prosecutor Kerim Khan, who is also calling for Netanyahu's prosecution, accuses Hamas leaders of being responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity, including exterminations, rape and sexual violence, torture and other inhumane acts, as part of a widespread and systematic attack by Hamas and other armed groups on civilian population of Israel, conducted in accordance with the policy of this organization. The victims died only because they were Jews and were the sole target of the armed wing of Hamas, although among the victims there were also people of other nationalities and citizens of other countries who simply happened to be there that day"

More lies, ignoring the fact that Israel is murdering Palestinians just for existing

"In videos recently released by Haaretz, Hamas terrorists threaten female hostages with sexual violence, but because they are Hamas terrorists and the hostages are Israeli, the feminism of some is suspended and the collective murder becomes an "act of resistance against the apartheid regime. "Not all active supporters of the Palestinian cause adopt such a radical position that romanticizes Hamas, but the issue of hostages, including many social activists, leftists and Polish citizens, does not concern them even one percent as much as any Israeli military action"

Do I need to comment on this? Classic belief in Zionist propaganda

"In April, Michel Kichky's exhibition Cartoonist on the Front Line took place in Krakow. The Krakow for Palestine initiative, co-created by Krakow's Palestinians, organized a protest during which protesters formed a gate over the entrance to the Museum of Contemporary Art with the slogan "If you support genocide walk through." Using English at protests is intentional. Their addressee is not society in Poland, but the international Jewish community. In the case of Kichky, there was no support for genocide. He has repeatedly spoken out against the war in Ukraine, and the object of his caricatures has often been Netanyahu, but also Hamas."

-_-

"The artist does not hide his leftist views. He is a supporter of Vivien Silver. She is a feminist and peace activist. Silver founded the Arab-Jewish Center for Equality, Empowerment and Cooperation in 1999. During the war in Gaza in 2014, she co-organized the transport of patients from Gaza to hospitals in Jerusalem. On October 4, 2023, she spoke at a peace rally in Jerusalem, attended by 1,500 women of both nationalities, and on October 7, she was murdered in Kibbutz Be'eri by Hamas."

And how do you know it's Hamas? Israel is known for lying, hello, WCK attacked because the driver was supposedly a "terrorist"

[unhonestlymirror]

Nadia Lipes:

A moment of logic, including historical logic.

Now I will not chew on the facts about the ownership of a certain piece of territory by ancient Israel, otherwise a couple of large Arab countries will end up there, but I will focus on the beginning of the 20th century.

At the beginning of the 20th century, Jews did not live in the territory of Gaza for a long time, despite the village and Jewish history of that region, they were driven out of there a long time ago, and the area was overgrown with sand.

But Jews have always lived in Judea and Samaria. In general, it’s pretty fucked up to say that the area called Judea has nothing to do with the Jews. But that's not the point.

As a result of the 1967 war, Israel inherited both, lightly populated by Arabs. This increased slightly by 4 times, despite the horrors of the occupation. A unique demographic case, yes.

In general, so that the Arabs behave decently in those same territories, and since these regions are ancient Jewish, Israel revived Jewish settlements there in some quantity.

And everything was fine until some idiot with the letter R [Rabin] decided to be the most humane Jew in history. The next idiot with the letter Š [Sharon] continued this event, and the Jews left Gaza. For 16 years, there were no Jews there.

The Jews could not leave the West Bank. Even R and Š understood this with their meagre minds. It so happened historically that on the West Bank, there is indivisible Jerusalem and Hebron. Not to mention smaller Jewish sites like Rachel's Tomb.

Thus, this part can never be given away. And under no circumstances. As long as Israel exists. The whole world understands this.

Thus, what is this very world trying to achieve? Right. The complete liquidation of Israel, in fact, hiding behind strange slogans.

Although some countries have already realized what is the "from the river to the sea..." It is not very clear which sea and which river we are talking about. Some countries, but not all.

Minute of logic number 2.

As we know from the last post, Gaza has not been occupied in any way for 16 years. It was simply separated from Israel by a fence. If you wanted to separate, please, here is a fence for you.

Israel did not touch Gaza at all. However, it employed its inhabitants, treated them, supplied them with electricity and water, and allowed them to give them a suitcase of money from Qatar every month.

Gaza, on the contrary, was touching Israel more and more every year. With rockets. Israel, in response, targeted the launch points, and that was the end of it. Because the world community, that’s all.

As a result of this development of events, they became so emboldened that they broke into the territory of Israel using all sorts of improvised means, killed 1400 people, after raping half of them, including children, burning some, and they did all this on video. The Germans are quietly crying in the corner.

Not only did they film all this chaos themselves, but they also post it online themselves.

Among other things, 240 people were taken captive, including children. The war has been going on for 40 days, 4 were released by the Palestinians themselves because animal rights activists knocked them on the head for them, 1 was released by ours, and the bodies of the other two have already been found.

Let me remind you that captives, or prisoners of war, are people who need to be fed, watered, shown to the Red Cross and not killed. Moreover, civilians cannot be taken as prisoners of war. And even more so infants and ancient old people. This is written directly in the regulations of all countries.

Where is the reaction? Huh?

Well, denying the rapes filmed by Hamas themselves is generally the lowest point of bottom. And yes, the Israeli army has been in the sector for 40 days. And not a single case of rape of Arab women by Jews.

Surprisingly simple. They spend much longer than 6 hours there, but how do they control themselves?

In Kfar Yassin, by the way, it was the same. So the world community was also indignant. They said that Jews despise Arabs so much that they don’t even want to rape them.

Disgusting behavior. We condemn.

[mossadspypigeon]

No one deserves rape or abuse. No state should have the right to kill its prisoners.

Not even terrorists, abusers, rapists etc. That is a cop mindset and has no place in leftist politics.

I don’t think saying that the people that hurt Israelis are terrorists means you get to abuse them however you want. That is a human rights violation and not something that is allowed in global society.

Human rights belong to everyone.

kill what prisoners lmao

yall are deluded. people who have murdered jews and israelis are either IN PRISON AFTER A TRIAL or have been released because a. the justice system leans in favor of them and/or b. stupid fucking negotiation bullshit from HAMAS to get hostages back.

the sbarro massacre terrorists? STILL ALIVE AND WELL IN JORDAN after being released during gilad shalit's hostage negotiations. yahya sinwar??? released during the same negotiations and that man not only killed israelis, but tortured and murdered his own people outside of prison and in prison.

you have no clue what you're babbling.

even the rape allegations? MEDICAL FINDINGS SHOWED THE PRISONER DID IT TO HIMSELF WITH A PIPE. soldiers have been released from prison for it. and yes they were ARRESTED. because israel prosecutes soldiers who commit crimes, but they give them TRIALS FIRST. same goes for palestinian prisoners: they get military trials because they are not israeli citizens, they are citizens of jordan and the PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES. regardless, they receive a fair trial re: international law. if a 12 year old is in prison, it's because they stabbed israelis or blew people up.

you have nothing to say about hamas raping people and ripping out eyes and killing parents in front of their children and burning people alive, but you have a lot to say about a democratic country's military. that isn't biased at all.

also, you live in a fucking movie. you want kindness for hamas genocidal terrorists and yet what, you likely also want "from the river to the sea," which is a call for ethnic cleansing of jews.

pull your head out of yahya sinwar's asshole and stop reading qatari propaganda.

[yeetus-feetus]

It's not a war when one side can't fight back.

It's not a war when one side is carpet bombing refugee camps.

It's not a war when one side is continuously bombing schools and hospitals full of innocent civilians.

It's not a war when one side is purposely targeting on the ground reporters and their families.

It's not war when one side is ethnically cleansing an entire population using the excuse that they are "savage" and "animals".

It's not a war when your news channels are actively twisting the truth and peddling propaganda.It's genocide.

And the US is backing Israel and supplying them with all those weapons because if they oppose what Israel is doing, they have to admit to their own genocide against the indigenous people of America and the African American people. Which they're failing to teach about in their schools because they've whitewashed their history so much! And all their other war crimes they keep hidden under the rug too.

Let's not even mention the book burnings that happened in America earlier this year.

On top of that, the excuse Israel is using to commit their war crimes, Hamas. Yeah that little group everyone is so concerned about, is a direct result of US involvement! And you know it's been over 75 years of oppression and apartheid against the Palestinians?

75 years of killing civilians and displacing people from their land. What and the one time Palestine fights back Israel decides that's a good enough excuse to vomit various war crimes?

Palestine has no army.Palestine has no means of defence.

The only way Palestinians can fight back is to rely on resistance groups, which are immediately labelled as terrorists and condemned for their attempts of action against Israel.

Not to mention Israel's entire government was formed by their very own Zionist terrorist group called the Irgun. Which you should really do your research about.

Even Jewish people are protesting the Zionist occupation and genocide of Palestinian people! Which is very dangerous for them, as seen by the police violence against a large group of Jewish protesters just a few weeks ago.

So a very big reminder that being against literal genocide is not equal to being antisemitic, unless you want to accuse actual Jews of being antisemitic. Which is fucking ridiculous, by the way.

I would also like to add that Hamas is only located in Gaza (a refugee camp of what used to be over 2millon displaced peoples, 5000 of which are children). So if this is really about them why the fuck is Israel slaughtering Palestinians living in the West Bank? Why were that taking captives from the West Bank during their so called "humanitarian pause"? Why are they dropping White phosphorus on the southern boarder of Lebanon? Why are they killing tens of thousands of civilians?

Which side of history do you want to be on?

Do you really want to side with oppressers, colonisers and war criminals because you refuse to admit your opinion is wrong?

Do you really want to side with an occupational state, that without remorse, shoots at and murders children in cold blood.

Children who have nothing more than rocks to aim at giant tanks.

Palestine will be free from the river to the sea.

🍉🍉🍉

[originalleftist]

Because these ghouls aren't really "pro-Palestinian" like they claim. They're anti-Israel, and they're Anti-semites.

They pretend that those two things are the same. They may insist that Hamas is synonymous with Palestine (one of many things that they and the far-Right both in Israel and the US ironically agree on), that anyone who supports Palestinians must support Hamas and every atrocity it commits or desires to commit. They may smugly proclaim that anyone who doesn't cheer for Israel to burn and the maximum amount of Jewish blood spilled "love(s) genociding Palestinians", to try to bully and guilt progressives into supporting their desire for a Second Holocaust as "anti-racist" and "anti-imperialist". They may claim, in short, that anyone who does not support genocide of Israel/Jews supports genocide. But in this narrative it's not genocide to kill Israelis or Jews, because Israelis and Jews aren't really human.

Maybe they justify this with the narrative that Jews are "white colonizers", not indigenous to the Levant, that it's all Palestine and so true justice for Palestine requires the destruction of Israel. But that's conspiracy theorism that ignores both the vast historical, cultural, and genetic evidence tying the Jewish people to an origin in the Levant, and does not mean that anything other than genocide of Israel is genocide of Palestine.

And I increasingly think that many in the Western pro-Hamas crowd don't really give a shit about Palestinians either (Hamas share as fuck doesn't). Not as individual people, as individual lives. Only as a label, a cause, something to cheer for in opposition to Israel/Jews. If they cared about Palestinians they would be appalled at Hamas, at the ruin it has brought on its people and the fact that it has ruled Gaza as a dictatorship for 19 years. But they aren't. They want Hamas to drive the Jews into the sea and establishes a Hamas state "from the river to the sea". No matter how many Palestinians must be sacrificed in that cause.

Kamala Harris wants a ceasefire, and a Palestinian state. Both things that would objectively help Palestinians, and are emphatically, definitionally NOT genociding Palestinians.

But because she does not want Israel to burn, it doesn't count. Because she doesn't cheer Hamas, it doesn't count. She's just a monster who wants to slaughter Palestinians for the lulz.

The above is, of course, referring to those who even have any coherent thought process behind their bile, and aren't simply flat-out lying about their position because they want to destroy America/for Trump to become Fuhrer/are working for the Kremlin.

Hi! This is literally not what Kamala Harris said at all.

Here is what she DID say:

On Oct. 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, slaughtered 1,200 Israelis. Many of them young people who were simply attending a concert. Women were horribly raped. And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself. We would. And how it does so matters. Because it is also true far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed. Children, mothers. What we know is that this war must end. It must when, end immediately, and the way it will end is we need a cease-fire deal and we need the hostages out. And so we will continue to work around the clock on that. Work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution. And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel. But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve.

(emphasis mine)

[hussyknee]

Can y'all stop reblogging from known Vote Biden crypto Zionists who think "River to the sea" is about genocide and the only Palestinian resistance fighting the terrorists blowing children into chunks while all the "legitimate" governments sends them 200 planes of more bombs are the "terrorists"?? I assure you I have been more radicalised by watching toddlers guts hanging out and parents wailing for their dead babies while Zionists make fun of them than anything this site could ever post. And I'm really trying not to associate all Jews with Israel but every single Jewish blog and account has by now let me the entire fuck down. You prove again and again that you're not listening to Palestinians, not following the Palestinians countering western propaganda at risk to their lives and their family's lives, that you want Palestinian freedom only on your own terms, on your comfort, performing morality for you while the IOF bombs the same refugee camp over and over and burns the disabled alive in their tents and shoots pregnant women.

I know the problem isn't Judaism. The problem is that you're white and European and you've never had to think about your privilege in relation to the global Black and brown population, and Zionism has sold you on the story that your persecution is exceptional and eternal and even the people who have been genocided under the Star of David for 75 years are a threat to your identity and safety. But good God. How the FUCK are we supposed to not hate you when you prove at every single turn that you think you're equal victims as Muslims and Arabs and Black folks?? Who're losing their homes and jobs and being shot in the streets and getting death threats and being retraumatized after 20 straight years of being slaughtered and displaced by the West??? When you prove that Black and brown and indigenous people are not human beings that deserve the right to resist annihilation by any means necessary????

How much more of this are we supposed to take??? How many more babies with their heads blown off do they have to raise to the cameras begging for their lives before YOU GODDAMN LISTEN TO A SINGLE WORD THEY SAY?????

We are human fucking beings watching Jews blow toddlers skulls apart saying "Never Again" over and over!!! What are we supposed to do when you throw in with their murderers at every turn because you're as scared of Muslims and Black and Indigenous people and their allies as all the other Zionists??? When you keep making endless endless discourse about whether Palestnians are the ones who want to genocide you and whether you can call carpet bombing two million people trapped in a kill box "genocide"??? When you refuse to call Zionists "Nazis"?? When you reaffirm to us again and again what we have always known— that your understanding of "genocide" and atrocity is based on a colour line and the Holocaust is its demarcation!! While you refuse to own and interrogate your whiteness or your western and Global North privilege or how any of it could possibly be complicit in the empowerment of Israel and the way that all trust and solidarity between you and BIPOC have now completely broken down??? "

"Jews aren't white" you are white enough that they qualified you to make their "oasis of civilization in the jungle"!! You're white enough that racism against you is the worst thing ever while Arabs and Muslims deserve to be slaughtered wholesale for posing a threat to you!!

"Antisemitism" is the knife you hold to our necks. "If you don't prioritise our safety and comfort and exonerate us first and foremost then we will join the oppressor to punish you." That's not a request for allyship and understanding. You know what that's called? White supremacy.

I support Hamas!!! i support Hezbollah and Houthis and the Muslim Brotherhood and any fucking group that has the slightest chance of burning israel to the ground before they wipe out the one point five million people they've herded into an airport sized strip with no food or water or fuel or medicine!! They're dying of sepsis and contamination and breathing smoke and white phosphorus WHILE STILL BEING BOMBED!! They have been performing amputations and Cesareans without anesthetic for weeks!! Children have died from shock!!! I want every fucking Nazi butcher wiped off the face of the earth!! What kind of monster are you to not want the same!!!

To hell with you.

One very easy thing you can do to make Tumblr a safer place for Jews is to NOT REBLOG ANYTHING FROM NATIVENEWS EVER. In addition to sharing virulent antisemitism and "news" that amounts to nothing more than screenshots of factually inaccurate tweets with no source whatsoever, they recently SHARED A HAMAS CALL TO ACTION. They are quite literally promoting terrorism. (Yes, I reported it, but knowing Tumblr, it probably won't go anywhere.)

I don't care if the post you're sharing from them has nothing to do with Israel/Palestine or if it contains information that is correct and important to share. This is a blog that is encouraging terrorism and genocide against my people. Do not give them any platform. Do not put this terrorist blog on my dash.

[good-old-gossip]

Israel routinely kills Palestinian civilians, using its weapons technology and calling it "battle-tested"

Israeli settlers steal Palestinian land and resources and even violently attack them with no repercussions. They have committed heinous crimes including burning a Palestinian baby alive and then celebrating that baby's death in so-called wedding ceremonies.

Steal their land with no impunity

Israeli leaders openly endorse Palestinian genocide and ethnic cleansing. This is not a complicated issue despite what Western media has hidden from you. Israel is a US-sponsored terrorist state. Israel has been committing war crimes and terrorism for past 75 years because of Zionists support from the US. This isn't about religion, and Zionism is not Judaism no matter what. Many Jewish people are antizionist both in Israel and in the US. This aggression is for sole purpose of Palestinian genocide and ethnic cleansing, this is not a war against Hamas, it has never been about Hamas. It has always been about stealing the land from Palestinians with the help of the US government and its allies in the European Union.

Fuck Israel and fuck double standards of Western world and media.

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

I don't get the argument of evil people on both sides

Israel routinely kidnaps Palestinian children and keeps them in cages, in prisons without trial, without their parents present and under a military court. There are several accounts of sexual, mental and physical abuses that these children have been subjected to by Israeli soldiers.

[josiebelladonna]

the phrase is a bad (read: made palatable for us dumb westerners) translation: the original phrase is “from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab”. it’s from hamas, the leading group of gaza backed by iran, which is hellbent on wiping israel (and ultimately the rest of the western world) off the map. israel hasn’t even been in gaza for 20 years and they don’t even want it—they don’t want the west bank, either. listen, if israel falls, the rest of us go with it because ol’ donnie trump sold them and the rest of us right down the river to russia: russia is allies with iran. this shit’s not at all hard to follow and it makes YOU the delusional ones here.

it’s a literal call for ethnic cleansing. so ironic, considering you pro-palestine dickheads scream about iSrAeL cOmMiTtInG gEnOcIdE until you’re practically blue in the face. it’s VERY antisemitic and a known terror slogan.

and you ate it up… why?

just…

WHY?!?

why the fucking hell are you all so obsessed with this conflict when there are several other conflicts going that are far worse than this (like sudan or ukraine)???? WHY?!

it does make you wonder how far antisemitism goes, especially when the flag of israel literally has the star of david on it and it’s the only country in the middle east that’s a.) mostly jewish; b.) actually ironically leans progressive, despite netanyahu’s nonsense (bro, tel aviv is one of the most gay-friendly cities on earth); and c.) you can go there as a westerner and they will literally treat you like royalty there. my brother went there in 2018 with his wife and they absolutely loved it.

and explain to me why every jewish person on earth right now is scared shitless about the future in the face of all of this. really, i want you and nonnie here to explain that to me like i’m five, precious poet. do you like, not think antisemitism isn’t happening or something?

really, tell me what’s going through that big, romantic brain of yours when you see this sort of reductive bullshit made palatable for you to coddle you into jihadism without even knowing it until it’s way too late and iran is threatening to burn the whole ship.

and by the way, op, you got some fucking nerve saying the pomegranate is “palestinian”. it’s jewish. it’s a well-documented sacred symbol to judaism. so, you must think judaism is ~the work of zionism~. take as much time as you need with that one.

some poet you are, cultural appropriation and supporting a call for genocide.

why do people say it’s antisemitic to say “from river to sea, 🇵🇸 will be free?” I’m so confused

it’s not. these people are just fucked in the head.

from the river to the sea, every inch of palestine will be free 🇵🇸🫀

[unhonestlymirror]

Oh God, thank you for making me laugh (nervously, tho) today. Where do I start.

"It is a disservice to the victims to pretend as if the state of nazi germany isolating and exterminating jewish citizens, appropriating their land and possessions and dehumanizing them is not the same or similar to the state of Israel isolating and exterminating arab Palestinians, appropriating their land and possessions and dehumanizing them. It is a disservice to the victims to cry for Israeli babies and yet have no tears for Palestinian babies left to die in bombed hospitals."

Op, have you ever heard about Israeli putting Arabs in gas cameras? placing Arabs in concentration camps? torturing and raping Arabs for being Arabs? I haven't. I've heard about Israel treating Palestinians in the best clinics, letting Arabs preach their culture and freely speak their language in Israel, letting Arabs work and study in Israel, providing Arabs with all the rights Jews in Israel have... unless those Arabs try to kill people "for Palestine". Doesn't look like an occupation to me. Let me remind you:

It is a disservice to the Hamas victims to cry for Palestinian babies and yet have no tears for Israeli babies being killed, beheaded, raped, burnt alive, kidnapped to Palestine by average Palestinians." In google, in social media, in real life - I don't see the "Free Hostages" slogan.

Op, you also confuse "occupiers" with "colonizers". It happens when you are severely uneducated and you just reflect the society in which you sit, without the slightest attempt to think through, to expand your knowledge, to "listen to both sides", after all, to figure out what is really going on. It's pretty fucked up to call Jews the occupiers of Judea.

"But to pretend as if this conflict between an armed state looking to seize land and a rebel group violently lashing out against that seizure is the same the systematic extermination of internal ethnic groups is the greatest disservice. To ignore 70+ years of conflict instigated by Britain and then carried onward by Israel so you can frame this lashing out as akin to the Holocaust is a disservice to every mourning parent and sibling from the river to the sea."

Yeah, and that's what you're doing right now, op. The I/P conflict is the direct continuation of the Holocaust. Do you know what the phrase "from the river to the sea" means?

Whatever you write about Israel is indeed a disservice to every mourning parent and sibling from the river to the sea.

"But Israel is not the shining jewish city on a hill, it is a settler state occupying land carved out by British Imperialism and propped up by American Imperial interests in the middle east. This is war, and people, much like animals, fight savagely when they are cornered. And I would say a tightly controlled and densely populated slum is about as cornered as one can get."

Op, let me be the first person who tells you this: you are a very good material for a future nazi. Uneducated, burning with passion to cause good and make justice, you believe that freeing Palestine from all the Jews because Israel is a jewish state is gonna solve the problem, you call people who killed Vivian Silver, who tortured Rami Aman, who raped and beheaded the girl Shani and more than 1400 people like her - you call such people "cornered". You should go and live in Palestine if you really believe in your own words. Although, it's a cruel thing to wish you.

The last sentence: oh, it's a hard thing to have peace in the heart after seeing what russian scum does to my land, it's a hard thing when the "modern world lurches towards fashism at a startling rate" - but I'll manage! Thank you.😊 After all, Jews somehow managed to revive their state after the Holocaust.

P.S. The original text above was copypasted, so you should have probably wished this to the author herself.

I am horrified by how often I see people writing, "Well, we shouldn't take Holocaust into account when talking about Israel-Palestine war." Of course we SHOULD, and that's why:

"October 7 is getting rewritten and certain social media users are an active of the campaign to erase the atrocities.

I was barely awake on October 7th when news of the atrocities that were committed by Hamas began to trinkle in, horror by horror. With sleep still in my eyes, I had hoped it was a nightmare I could erase by burying my face in pillows and returning to slumber, but alas, reality was insistent. Hamas had butchered over 1,200 people, amongst them infants, pregnant women, the handicapped, and the elderly. Even dogs were not spared.

But Hamas didn’t just murder them in cold blood, they had tortured, raped, desecrated their bodies, and took hostages. Their depravity was limitless. And they were so proud of their crimes that they used GoPro cameras to record them, later releasing the sickening spectacles to the public as a form of psychological terror. Add to that the live streams, cell phone recordings, and CCTV camera footage, and you’ll probably have the most documented massacre in history—with a reported 60,000 video clips collected.

I’ve seen some of these videos, including those not circulating quite so widely in public. They will haunt me for the rest of my life—and that falls far short than the 47 minute “film” shown to select journalists and diplomats worldwide, a number of whom broke down and/or fell ill during the screening.

But as shocking as all of this deranged butchery was — which was entirely the intention — what stunned me in the aftermath is the world’s reaction.

Putting aside disputes of land and politics, it was jarring to hear such a blatant reframing of narrative. It started with calling Hamas the “resistance” and justifying the unjustifiable. A number of BLM chapters had put out “heroic” images of Hamas terrorists descending on parachutes. I half-expected them to release action figures of Hamas fighters too. Maybe they did?

And then came the "BUTs." Sure, some folks condemned Hamas, but it was always followed by a "BUT," justifying the unjustifiable. I've been asked, ad nauseam, "What would you do in their situation?" Well, my response remains steadfast: not commit random acts of murder, torture, and kidnapping. Call me old-fashioned. (For the record I’ve called many colorful words for my stance, but oddly that was never one of them).

It was a wake-up call for many, especially those of us in the global Jewish community. Overnight, the illusion of safety shattered, much like the dreams of anyone who's binge-watched a horror series alone at night. But now we were all collectively trapped in that nightmare, and couldn’t wake up no matter how hard with pitched.

The history of the Holocaust is taught in many schools around the world. “Never forget” and “never again” are sentiments that are echoed within that curriculum. Yet, while some might scoff at the persistent advocacy for Holocaust education, insisting that it’s hitting them over the head, a nationwide survey in 2020 reveals that the under-40 crowd seems to have missed the memo. Shockingly, one in ten respondents haven’t even heard of the word “Holocaust,” let alone being aware that as many as 6 million Jews perished in it.

Further, nearly a quarter of those questioned said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, had been exaggerated or that they weren’t sure. Meanwhile in Canada, one in five young people (under 34) either hasn't heard of the Holocaust or isn't sure what it is. And in Britain, one in twenty adults flat-out deny that it ever took place. Ah, the privilege of blissful ignorance.

Most who underestimate the number of Jews killed in Holocaust have neutral or warm feelings toward Jews.

But it's not just ignorance; there's an entire industry that has been propped up and dedicated to Holocaust denial, complete with books, “movies,” and groups. To make matters worse, alarmingly, fewer Holocaust survivors are around to share their firsthand accounts and counteract the flames of denialism.

Nearly half of the 1000 people surveyed had stated that they’ve seen Holocaust denial or distortion posts on social media or elsewhere online.

I’ve always thought that denials of genocide—such as the Holocaust —were something that happened over time, with history slipping away and being re-written.

However, I never expected to be observing this in real time.

While initially the so-called “resistance” was celebrated by a subset of society, this soon turned into full-fledged denials of Hamas’ actions on Oct 7. Despite overwhelming evidence in the form of videos captured and shared by Hamas themselves and shared on Telegram channels and elsewhere, I would read and hear people claiming that they had only targeted Israeli military. Absurd claims emerged using supposedly ‘leaked’ footage where an Israeli helicopter shoots at Nova music festival goers. That video was viewed over 30 million times on X alone. The video, which was actually originally shared by the IDF on Oct 9, was showing their attacks on specific Gazan targets—certainly NOT indiscriminate bombings of music festival attendees in Israel. (Here’s a great thread that details how this piece of disinformation spread and geolocation information that further confirms that the claim is fake).

I’ve heard countless denials of the rapes of women (and men), despite overwhelming evidence in the form of physical evidence, forensics, and a number of witness testimonies. Women’s rights groups, meanwhile, remained silent—thus offering a vacuum for denialists to fill. Proponents of “me too” also stayed silent. Worse, the University of Alberta Sexual Assault Centre’s director signed an open letter calling Hamas perpetrating “sexual violence” an “unverified accusation.” It took UN Women nearly two months to issue a lukewarm condemnation of the brutal attacks. “We are alarmed by the numerous accounts of gender-based atrocities and sexual violence during those attacks,” they wrote, following a letter writing campaign urging them to speak up. Better late than never though, right?

The roughly 40 dead babies claim was debunked as a lie. At least that’s what people on social media now declare as fact, citing a Haaretz investigation.

“Haaretz investigation EXPOSES all the ISRAELI LIES from October 7th just like I predicated (sic),” reads the post of one particularly large disinformation account.

These claims persisted despite Haaretz directly addressing that post and calling it “blatant lies” and insisting that it “absolutely no basis in Haaretz’s reporting.”

The denials continued regardless of the fact that a group of 200 forensic pathologists from all over the world had confirmed that babies were indeed murdered and that some babies were found decapitated, though it was unclear whether this was done before or after death. First responders also corroborated that they witnessed beheaded infants. Regardless of decapitation, these were babies, murdered.

The forensic pathologists also confirmed that humans were executed, bound and burned alive. Israeli police have over 1,000 statements related to the attack.

When some of the hostages were released, Hamas supporters claimed that the hostages enjoyed being held by them, that they hardly wanted to leave. That this was like a pleasant vacation for them, that’s all. Like sipping piña coladas by the beach. In fact, they would state that they were more concerned about their safety in Israeli hands. They even concocted stories of love affairs between a hostage who was shot in the leg and a Hamas captor. A sick and twisted take on reality where up is down, cats are dogs, and denial is truth. They dismissed the reality that many of these hostages watched their loved ones get murdered in front of them, and still had relatives being held in captivity. The hostages were also administered Clonazepam by Hamas, a mood-enhancing tranquilizing drug, before handing them over to the Red Cross, so that they would appear “happy.”

Meanwhile, the Yale Daily News published a correction of an opinion column stating that the “allegations had not been substantiated.”

The denials go on and on, and I can’t help but feel like I’m watching a version of Holocaust denial, except this time it’s happening in real time—not years after the fact. And this time, it has a Wi-Fi connection and a social media account.

The conditions for this were ripe. Moral relativism is why just several weeks ago, Gen Z embraced Bin Laden's 'Letter to America.' It has been building up for years across college campuses, a breeding ground for ideologies that support violent means to achieve political gains.

The perceived power dynamics play a role here too. In the eyes of many, the Israelis are seen as a superpower whereas the Palestinians, and by extension Hamas, are seen as underdogs. In their view, the underdog is always right because it is the victim, and the “power” is the oppressor. So how can the oppressor be a victim?

Israelis, despite the majority of the population being Mizrahi Jews, as well as 20% Arabs (who were also victims on Oct 7), have been framed as “white colonizers,” vs the Palestinians who are seen as “POC” in the context of this conflict. Never mind that Jews, including Ashkenazi Jews, can be traced back to the land through DNA, archaeological evidence, and historical documents.

An overall distrust for media is another factor, which has resulted in individuals taking the word of random influencer accounts as gospel over traditional media outlets. According to Gallup polls, Americans’ trust in media is near a record low. Only 34% of US adults have a “great deal” or “fair amount” of confidence as of 2022. This is a major hindrance to our sensemaking abilities.

And then, of course, there’s cognitive dissonance. When a group identifies so closely with the perpetrator and they commit heinous acts, confronting that fact happens to be uncomfortable. So, in an attempt to reduce that discomfort, they rationalize or deny the evidence. This means that they accept only evidence that supports their existing beliefs, while placing unreasonable demands on the other side.

But none of these factors would have gained as much traction if it weren’t for something that didn’t exist during the Holocaust: social media. This is the engine that helps drives this real-time historical revisionism and denialism. According to 2021 data from Pew Research, over 70% of Americans get their news via social platforms. A Reuters Institute report from 2023 found that 30% of respondents use social media as the main way to get their news.

We have a society that consumes sound-bites of information, both truth and lies (as well as lies based on grains of truth).

Social media algorithms—combined with human nature—tend to amplify outrageous untruths, which spread widely. Corrections, never make it as far as the original lie. They are just a faint hum.

Throughout the Israeli-Gaza war, we’ve seen AI generated images and bots used to paint a specific narrative—for evocative, emotional effect. But technologically sophisticatication isn’t a prerequisite for painting false narratives. Many “influencers” have taken to using existing images or videos and attaching misleading headlines to them—including sharing content that captures events in Syria while presenting it as taking place in Gaza. These networks of influencers have large reach, and can turn even the most blatant lie into a revisionist truth.

Researchers for Freedom House, a non-profit human right advocacy group, found that generally at least 47 governments have used commentators to manipulate online discussions in their favor, either via humans or bots. They’ve also recruited influencers to help spread false and misleading content, and have created fake websites that mimic actual media publications. Then there’s always Russia’s propaganda arm RT, and various other publications like Al Jazeera and Quds who have direct ties to Hamas and/or other Islamic regimes.

All of this has contributed to narrative confusion, and the erasure of unspeakable acts of brutality, and the denial of the facts of October 7, right before our very eyes.

If we cannot even share a common reality, how can have any hope of resolving anything?

“Never again” is happening now."