#friendship discourse

[pamithebunterfly2007]

I’m tired of being that girl and my apologies to my friends . . . . . .

You see, I just keep on making promises to myself and I was expected to be a perfect friend and yet, I keep on breaking them, and turns out, I didn’t even have the chance to manage to help and fix people, but instead, I broke their fragile hearts and I broke them instantly. I just wanted to make people happy, for example I make like fun stuff like I make their request for them, make fun Gacha challenges, reblogging chain games, etc. But when I make their requested gift for them, I always feel like some sort of obligation to them to keep them happy so that way I could please them, but no matter what choice I made, from what I say, do, or make, My mind is telling me that now the damaged has already done and you can’t fix it anymore. And yes, I done shitty stuff both today and the past, and it’s me, I always thinking to myself like I’m the one who made tricky leave!!! I did everything to make you all happy for the things I do but the issue is that whenever I make something, the words that come out of their mouths are a “thank you” with a grin glued to their face filled with approval, but they always seem to be interested in the stuff I make rather than appreciating me and I get no favor in return. Sure it sounded a bit selfish but I get it, I get you guys loved me and such, and I love you too guys because I make stuff that makes me comfortable and yet I respect everyone’s thoughts and opinions but I don’t know. How would everyone would think of me, like all day, I’m scared that someone would judge me, and telling me to stop, and yes, I do love my friends and I get they have there interest and stuff, it’s that it’s what’s making us feel better for ourselves. Everyday I feel like I’m failing myself due to the choices I make that I considered to be “very poor”, keep repeating the pattern of letting myself go off the rails of being a better friend, Like I wanted to help you guys, but I ignored you. And I’m worried about for what I’m gonna say is that I always feel like I’m betraying all of you, and I by telling the truth, it’s not just me that feels like I’m failing, I had a thought that I’m actually failing all of you, and I failed that friendship of mine. Which makes me a huge fool of myself. Friendship is like a exam test, Like when you make friends with a person and do something to them, you think if it’s the right choice or not, but it’s too late to change it. . . . . . And now you prepare yourself if you pass or fail that test. And I feel like I’m failing to be my better self, I keep on trying, but I keep falling down. but it’s not just me, I’m failing both, myself and my friends, I wanted them to make them feel better and happy, like sure, you guys see me as the kind, sweet, helpful, and wonderful friend to hang out, who always make the best of the best and I get all of you are changing . . . . . . . . . But. . . . . . . I’m actually tired of being that girl who has to give in constantly and gets no favor in return. . . . . . . . . Deep down, I’m nothing but a failure who breaks people both mentally and emotionally . . . . . . . .and it gets to the point where I always feel like and have the negative thought that I’m betraying all of you. . . . . . . . . And I’m sorry, for failing all of you. . . . And my apologies if it looks like I backstab all of you. And I’m afraid if I should or shouldn’t trust myself or any of you anymore. . . . . . . . . And it’s too late for me now.

And by telling the ugly truth to all of you, we’re actually just people trying to hate ourselves and little less and loving each other more by making ourselves look better with no favors in return, but in reality, we’re actually small, and thinking we are unimportant to one another. So it’s an easier way to make friends because this is who we are today. . . . . . And I do care for you all, and for now, I’m giving you the permission to have every right to be upset with me for that I keep making those poor choices to myself and letting you all down. . . . . . . . And I started all of this. Just to let myself be disappointed in me for the stuff I done. From making people leave this site to being manipulative, and for leaving people behind. . . . . . . . It’s me! I’m poison and I failed to be perfect . . . . . . . .and I’m sincerely sorry that it looks like I’m failing and backstabbing myself, including everyone.

because of me.

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[mofsblog]

"This is some gay shit" Good. Silly. Fair enough. Doesn't inherently invalidate other interpretations of the relationship. Honestly yeah, it is kind of gay regardless of their canonical relationship status

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[myfandomrealitea]

By the way, you're certainly not obligated to do things for people or return effort, but if you frequently refuse to do so you cannot blame other people for your social relationships crumbling away or for the opinion they form about you.

I see so many posts about how; "you're not owed my time!! If I want to ignore you for weeks I can!! You just have to accept it and be ready to accept me whenever I give enough fucks to speak to you again!!"

And while its absolutely true that, yeah, technically, not even your friends are owed your time. And plenty of people need respite from social engagement, if you're someone who frequently ignores your friends, cancels on them, blows them off or just generally doesn't reciprocate the effort they're putting in....

Sooner or later they're not going stop that effort. They're going to think of you as a selfish or ignorant person who isn't suitable for friendship.

My friends are understanding of the fact that sometimes I'll go a few days or a week without replying. Everyone has a life, everyone gets busy, everyone gets overwhelmed. But I always make a point of reaching back out to them the moment I have the time or energy to.

I thank them for being patient. I ask how they are. If I've really got enough time and energy I make plans to meet up or call them. I put effort into actually maintaining the friendship, valuing them as my friend, and making sure the relationship is even.

The amount of vitriol I see aimed at friends or family who have genuinely and in good faith expressed that people aren't putting in effort or maintaining an equal relationship is fucking astounding.

"I don't have many friends. Everyone is so fucking selfish these days, always expecting people to be available at the drop of a hat or answer every single text."

Are they though, Karen? Or are you just acting like a child with its toys, expecting people's lives to be put on pause until you're ready for them?

[moonydanny]

Did you guys notice how in all the FaceTime scenes between Buck and Eddie in the last episode not once did Eddie ask Buck how he was doing?

I understand the episode was Eddie focused, don't get me wrong (and im glad they're finally doing it). But once again, their friendship feels based on how can Buck be of service to Eddie? He's the sounding board, the one giving support and advice and reassurance and solutions to Eddie's problems 😤

And yes, I'm still mad about the fact that no one, not even alleged-best-friend Eddie, was there for Buck when Maddie was missing

I wonder if the writers are even aware of just how one-sided they keep writing their friendship 🤔🙄

[mayadoesfandomstuff]

Now with reading summaries of the podcast episode and watching some of the clips, it genuinely triggers my anxiety hearing about how Dream treated his friends and especially those who are more vulnerable than him (like Tommy being a teenager), especially since I experienced the same kind of thing with one of my ex toxic friend from about last year this time and it's so unnerving.

Tommy saying that he tried settling things privately, keeps getting empty apologies, and then for Dream to just keep doing what he was doing without changing anything really brought me back to my own conversations where I would basically almost beg her to reflect on how she's hurt me and her apologizing with a "I'm sorry you felt that way." and then continuing on to act the same way.

Tommy and Jack talking about how it was almost like he didn't understood what he did was wrong and it taking so much to explain things to him and in the end the whole thing not clicking, reminded me of long conversations I had with her trying to make her understand why she was being hurtful and still, at the end of it, still not agreeing with me on why her words were hurtful to a mutual friend.

Tommy questioning whether or not he's accurate on how badly dream treats him and only having very few people to vent to really hit hard and it brought me back to when I could only talk about how bad my ex friend was to me to only one person who wasn't trying to play devil's advocate for her. Someone who was also hurt and has also publicly expressed her disdain for her to the rest of the friend group and we honestly felt like conspiracy theorists half the time who couldn't speak about this publicly or outside our most inner circles (i.e. just us and maybe my family members).

There's so much of this that they talked about that I'm seeing disturbing parallels to me and that relationship and it does make me wonder if it was just a toxic friendship or outright emotional abuse or both or am I crazy or whatever because it's not like we had a large age gap and the only thing she may have over me was that she was physically abled while I was housebound and nearly isolated except with my family and online conversations with our same mutual friends and maybe she was lighter skinned and was actively colorist against me and my other friend that she also hurt but man, this is really making me think.

My heart goes out for Tommy and I do hope that he closes this chapter of his life and finds success in his new ventures and hoping that he never has to interact with Dream or his associates again.

[fiona-fififi]

No, Buck. You should not call your shitty ex-boyfriend and apologize for being mean to him after he chose to undermine your relationship with your best friend, actually.

Like, that shit was uncalled for. After he clocked Buck living in Eddie's house and clearly struggling with losing him, he's going to say some shit painting Eddie as competition instead of offering literally any form of comfort, like, I don't know, not implying that Buck's best friend being out of the way is somehow a win for him??

[ingravinoveritas]

I recently had an Anon send in a link to this video, which is an interview Michael and David did for the BBC when GO 2 came out in 2023.

This was already one of the most memorable GO 2 interviews (in my opinion), but a special thanks to the Anon for pointing out one little moment that I somehow did not previously catch, which is David's face when they are about to take a picture with Ali Plumb and he puts his arm behind Michael:

I've written previously on my blog about little moments where both Michael and David have gotten visibly jealous over the other receiving attention from someone else, and so that was what immediately came to mind seeing this. In particular, the time that Chris Hemsworth went to put an arm around David when they were on the Graham Norton Show and then stopped when he saw Michael's face:

I love that in both cases, it's this small thing of being aware of where "your" person is, and who is around them. With Hemsworth, Michael doesn't even move, and yet we can still feel that feeling and that conscious effort coming from him.

But with David, I don't know that he even realizes what he is doing, to where it's not an active choice, but rather something he just does without thinking. He instinctively watches who comes near Michael and whether they're touching him(!), in a way that just feels...special, somehow. Like if it were another co-star or friend, he would not be paying that close attention...and yet here, he does. Because it's Michael. And I just really, really love that.

So thank you, Anon, for bringing this to my attention. It's so interesting how there are so many instances of David being much more open (and definitely more touchy-feely with Michael) and "loud" on the GO 2 press tour than the one for S1. But this is a wonderful reminder that the quiet moments can be just as compelling and powerful...

[thatsgazebo]

The “bud” after “I love you” does NOT devalue it. And NOT just because “bud” can be interpreted romantically, but because having loving platonic relationships with friends is just as monumental.

[beedreamscape]

This has to be the last thing I say on C3 finale because otherwise, I will not stop, it simply baffles me in its mediocrity. And obviously, this will be negative, if you loved it, good for you, this is my takeaway as someone who loved this campaign and was severely let down.

This finale changes everything that came before and not for good, better yet, it emphasizes all the faults in the structure of what c3 tried to be, it made most of the campaign feel like a true exercise in futility — How far can we go in a campaign that is meandering and unsatisfying? How long can we have the same discussion over and over and over again despite everyone knowing how this will end? How long can we drag out characters that don't change without anyone noticing? (spoiler everyone noticed)

Can't say I was emotionally invested in the finale because I tapped out back in the 70s, came back for Aeor/Downfall shenanigans, and left again. But in experiencing the finale something became clear to me:

THIS STORY NEEDED TO BE SHORTER.

WITH ANOTHER PARTY AT THE HELM.

If the objective from the very conception of C3 was to wipe out the gods, that had to be clear from the very start. And it wasn't clear, at all — not in the characters, not in the starting city, not in theme. This was a completely different campaign at the start! That clarity was what made Calamity so great, it was short and precise, and every pc SERVICED THE THEME, filled with hubris and contempt, not to mention the setting.

Even Ludinus went in circles for convenience of the campaign length and became a weaker opponent for it, more of a nuisance than a villain. The threat he posed at episode 50 was much stronger than now at 120 something. The battle against Otohan was more nail-biting and emotionally engaging than fighting Ludinus and Predathos, a god eater!!!!

This campaign would've benefited from three to four acts instead of one overarching objective like the past campaigns because urgency is the name of the game and we can't carry urgency for 70 episodes straight (and they didn't).

The constant inclusion of the other parties made it clear how easy it was to detach BH from the story, how easy and fun it was for them to tell it through another party's eyes (one of the main reasons why I walked away back when I did, but that's more of a personal preference).

Which is not to say Bells Hell's didn't deserve a long story! They could very well have existed in a more intimate campaign which these characters were clearly built for! Their premises begged for closer looks in slow moments, something tragicomical, exploration of the inner world while developing MARQUET and its microcosm of injustice and politics which was left in the dust mid-campaign (pun intended).

And I'm not suggesting this just for our enjoyment, I know it's them playing and their enjoyment comes first blah blah, though this is a multi-million company therefore their jobs but this would contribute to their enjoyment! You could see several moments in the campaign how tapped out they felt and acted. I doubt it was "fun" discussing the gods situation ad naseaum, trudging through landscapes they barely cared about, with empty arcs.

I could nitpick every fault I see in the finale but it would be pointless, these issues have been dragged from ages ago and poor character matching, and now this is a culmination of everything and it barely fazes me anymore.

(And yeah it's their game and it's "free", but that doesn't undermine its weight as a story, stories were made be analyzed, and it was a poorly structured one no matter how much I still like and admire them as people.)

WHICH is not to say I had no fun at all ever, I did! several times! and that's what makes me upset, it could've been great instead is just meh.

[venice-1987]

An annoying phenomenon I've noticed

Alternatively: Whatever you do, don't go onto the TDP reddit

(Alternatively, let people ship things)

[arriettyspin]

Okay so did anyone else find Haymitch referring to Maysilee as his sister to come entirely out of left field? At this point in the story they were still barely friends, just about allies. And the dialogue felt stilted and nothing like Haymitch's way of speaking previously. There was something very reactionary and fourth-wall breaking about the passage - like the author was telling us how we should perceive their relationship instead of trusting the reader to interpret it themselves from what was shown in the text. Maybe I would feel differently if they had had more interactions, idk.

[moonydanny]

See why I'm so fascinated by the friendship dynamics on the show?

Because what do you mean Maddie, Buck’s SISTER, is missing/kidnapped, and it doesn't occur to anyone that he needs some comfort, too? 🙄

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that Chimney got his moment to shine during this episode. Honestly, it's about damn time, I feel like he's barely talked in the last few eps. Kenny absolutely ATE. And of course Chim deserves all the comfort and support because his wife is missing.

But WHAT DO YOU MEAN no one even gives Buck a second glance? When Eddie gets to Madney's place, Buck opens the door and tells him "Thanks for coming" and Eddie barely looks at him and beelines it to hug Chimney. (Now, this might have to do with Tim/writers not wanting to stoke the buddie fire with them not being too affectionate, but who knows...)

And then, when Buck is with Eddie in the car, he's actively talking about how fucked his life has been and how stuff does affect other people, even if it's indirectly, and Eddie looks like he can't stand to hear Buck talking (this is also partly RG's strange "I'm super tired" face which looks more like he smelt a fart, but I digress). And then, instead of listening to what Buck is saying and offering some comfort, or hell, even just acknowledging Buck's feelings, HE HONES IN ON THE ONE PHRASE he could take out of context and THROWS IT BACK IN BUCK'S FACE and makes him feel guilty. Again. 😤

Hen and Karen are there for Chim. Eddie is there for Chim. Bobby and Athena are there for Chim. BUCK IS THERE FOR CHIM.

But who is there for Buck? No one, apparently. 🤨😒

[mabaris]

“men are always willing to believe two things about a woman: one, that she is weak, and two, that she finds him attractive.”

truly insane to have a character say this and then make them actually attracted to men in any capacity. btw.

[sonik-kun]

MXTX describes Jiang Cheng as a negative person, but ultimately, he is not a terrible, evil monster.

We all know why Jiang Cheng is, by nature, a negative person. Aside from all the loss of life he has experienced, he had a rather toxic and tumultuous upbringing by his parents.

His father gave him little attention and seemed to favour Wei Wuxian (which only served to exacerbate the rumours of a secret affair he had with Wei Wuxian's mother, causing an even bigger rift between him and Madame Yu).

Not only did he seem to favour Wei Wuxian, he also often compared him to him, placed unrealistic expectations on him and refused to ever acknowledge Jiang Cheng's own amazing achievements (The fact that he was able to work hard and keep pace with a child prodigy like Wei Wuxian is impressive in itself.) He also told him that he didn't understand the family motto.. Do y'all not see how alienating that must be for Jiang Cheng? Especially being told that whilst he was still a child who was developing and set to be the future sect heir.

Then there was his mother who was both verbally and physically abusive to Wei Wuxian and him. She often demeaned Jiang Cheng and compared her to Wei Wuxian, pitting the two against each other despite the two of them wanting to just be friends. She was a wedge between a beautiful friendship and whilst I understand her grievances, especially towards her husband, she still put a huge strain on their friendship which only fed into Jiang Cheng's insecurities. It was unfair of her to take her anger out on her children and their disciple.

Jiang Cheng had no real, adult figure to ground him and reassure him other than his sister. But she too was a child under a great amount of pressure. That role should never have fallen upon her.

With all this taken into consideration, it is no wonder why Jiang Cheng grew up to be bitter, negative and resentful.

It makes you wonder that had he had a normal upbringing with supportive parents and never experienced the great amount of loss he went through, would he had turned out to be a completely different person?

I propose to you that he would. And we can see that person in his nephew, Jin Ling.

[salty-autistic-writer]

Just another episode convincing me that buddie works great in fanon but would never work in canon.

[clownieboo]

i always see raridash in response to the rarijack vs appledash discourse where people always like “let them be poly!!” which is like awesome and cool and stuff bc all the mane six are dating anyways but also.

i wanna see raridash in a vacuum. it doesn’t always have to involve applejack grrrgaagah!!!! don’t get me wrong, aj’s my fave, but she ain’t gotta be there!!! rarijack can just be about rarijack and not about resolving silly ship discourse with aj!!

anyways i love them they’re so silly