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datcrazyanniegurl · 2 months ago
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I still think about "more than you know" a lot tbh; such a masterpiece *chefs kiss*
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glorytoukraine2022 · 5 months ago
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Hi fellow Frozen fans! I’m here to talk about an opinion from the Frozen fandom that has been bothering me since Frozen 2 came out. I’ve heard several people claim that Elsa was selfish for abdicating the throne to Anna to become the Fifth Spirit. Some people even seem to imply that Elsa doing so is ruining Anna and Kristoff’s lives and their plans for the future. I don’t know where all of this is coming from, but based on varying complaints from the fandom, I have a few ideas.
I think, that some people are just upset because they would rather Elsa remain the prim and proper Queen of Arendelle and Anna, the carefree, bubbly princess. The people who sport this idea annoy, and even anger me to some extent. Anna and Elsa are so, so much more than that. Do you all just want them to remain frozen in time? You have no desire for them to grow as people? If you truly love and appreciate the sisters as characters, then you would WANT them to grow, and reach their full potential.
Why shouldn’t Anna get a chance to lead her people? Why shouldn’t Elsa, a woman who was locked away in her room for thirteen years, get a chance to experience true, complete freedom? Why should she be denied the chance to be happy? To live a happy and fulfilling life?
Is it because she’s the first born and you feel she needs to live out the rest of her days fulfilling that obligation? There were undoubtably plenty of first born Kings and Queens who assumed the throne yet had do desire for such a burden. Nobody should have to be resigned to such a fate. Especially such a unique person like Elsa.
Another reason that I have heard mentioned, is that some people prefer the “Two Queens“ ending. For the people who believe that Elsa and Anna should have ended up ruling Arendelle together, as equals, let me start by saying that that’s not how monarchies work. A monarch usually refers to a single person. A person of royal blood and related to the Royal family.
Yes, a monarch usually does wed another person, but the person who marries an heir apparent only shares their rank and title. They do not have any sovereign powers over the kingdom. They do not rule. Any political power they have is limited to what the monarch allows them to have.
So, the “Two Queens” idea would not work not only because the power of the monarch can only belong to one person, but Anna is Elsa’s sister. Yes, there WAS insest in real life monarchies, but as two females, an heir would never be able to be produced. This was the main reason why monarchs were, often forced, to marry. To produce an heir. The only reason Anna was able to ascend was because Elsa abdicated without a child of her own. They could never have ruled Arendelle together.
I know that part of the reason that this idea appealed to people is because it fit in with the “two sisters“ theme of Frozen. Many people believe that Elsa leaving Arendelle goes against that theme. Or that Elsa leaving Arendelle won’t strengthen their bond. I understand where people are coming from, but again, I disagree.
Elsa is 24 years old. She’s an adult. She’s around my age, and I have many friends who have moved out of their homes. That doesn’t mean that the bonds they have with their parents and siblings deteriorate or that they don’t love them anymore. It just mean that they’re independent. Same with Elsa. It’s only natural that the older sister is the first to move out of the house. She’ll always lover her family and can visit them at any time she likes.
As I mentioned above, Elsa is not ruining Anna and Kristoff’s marriage and lives in the future. She isn’t shoving off uneeded responsibility onto Anna. While Anna may not have been groomed to be Queen growing up the same way that Elsa was, she probably was made aware that as the second born daughter of the King and Queen, that if anything happened to Elsa, Arendelle would look to her. It’s not like Anna is coming into this with zero understanding of what’s expected of her.
I don’t know how many of you read any of the artick of interviews with Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck when Frozen 2 came out, but I did. They stated that the entire point of the movie was for “Anna to become Queen and Elsa to be free.” So the outcome that you’re complaining about was always the intention. Sorry.
Chris and Jen said that Anna should become Queen because of her deep love for her people and that Elsa doesn’t deserve to be trapped in a box. I couldn’t agree more. Anna loves her people and wants to help and do things for them. That’s what being a Queen is all about. That’s why Anna would want and do well in the position. She would be helping her people.
Elsa is a unique person with a unique gift. Even though her powers had been accepted by the people of Arendelle and she was a beloved Queen, she was still somewhat restrained for the sake of fitting in. Elsa could have never embraced her powers and all that she is if she had remained in Arendelle as its Queen.
Elsa abdicated the throne because she had a higher calling. As guardian of the Enchanted Forest, a place where the magic of nature is respected, Elsa can be herself and use her powers to the fullest extent to protect the forest and all its inhabitants.
In conclusion, By abdicating the throne to become the fifth spirit and leaving Anna to become Queen, both Elsa and Anna get the chance to grow into their best selves. This is about what is best for both of them and their happiness. Not about your fantasy preference for their future.
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simpofhans · 2 months ago
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That's why in my fanfic the Southern Isles have underground water tunnels... to connect Helsa again (and add Anders and Freya to some drama uhehehehhehe) ^^
because Southern Isles and Dark Sea/Ahtohallan/The Enchanted Forest are REALLY REALLY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
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{When The Mouse found out these two were in a relationship behind the scenes, let's just say these were the consequences. Of course someone is nonchalant since it ain't their first rodeo. }
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disneyfanatic1993 · 7 months ago
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I’m Done Holding Back, Chapter Forty-Nine: Part One
All art from the chapter of my Cassarian fanfic, “Chapter Forty-Nine: Ready”.
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martianbugsbunny · 1 year ago
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Elsa Appreciation Post
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justlookatthosesausages · 1 year ago
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Please PLEASE this design for Elsa in Frozen 3
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meltthefrozenheart · 2 years ago
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Hans is at Disney California !
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It's not much, but at least it's nice to know Hans isn't completly forgotten, probably because it's Frozen 10th anniversary?
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semetarycosplay · 8 months ago
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Every inch of me is trembling, but not from the cold. Something so familiar, like a dream I can reach but not quite hold. Photos: Adris Creations Photography
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glitteringstardust · 2 years ago
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♡ Fifth Spirit-inspired designer Elsa by adollthing
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ifthesewings--couldfly · 1 year ago
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Okay okay, after the mess that Frozen 2 was I’m the least person to be even remotely interested in how Disney is going to further maul the franchise with the next movie
BUUT
Imagine what would happen if Frozen 3 was centered around Anna building resentment at Elsa for leaving her behind
Imagine her trying to keep it in the way Elsa did with her powers
And since she has the same genes as Elsa, her heart starts to freeze out
But not in a “I’m dying of a frozen heart” sort of way
But more in a “this hate is giving me power(s)” sort of way
What if Anna was the enemy Elsa had to protect the Enchanted Forest from all along
And she freaking CREATED IT
(What if Beware The Frozen Heart was about Anna all along)
Imagine Anna, now with some sort of power, unleashing her wrath at the Enchanted Forest
Imagine an epic, final battle between the two sisters
This would fit the Frozen theme SO NICELY
And wrap up the circle PERFECTLY
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horrorartist23 · 1 year ago
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Elsa i think youre nose is bleeding
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spicylove4ever · 2 years ago
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Lyrics from Alive, Sia.
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simpofhans · 1 month ago
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Frozen 3 Hans theory that came to my mind yesterday because Hans is treated in a Frozen franchise as nothing more than a joke but since Once upon a Studio rather as an adorable comic relief (we have progress. At least.) :
Hans will appear in Frozen 3 as a some kind of Oaken 2.0, the forest shaman who suffers from amnesia and uses name similiar to Hans (Helmuth?) because due to his snowball accident injuries which are canon now, he might have recovered, but have some serious brain damage, to the point that he thinks he is some crazy shaman, but he started to sell some more or less working herbal medicines, and practice magic despite he doesn't know quite how. Elsa, Anna and Olaf in the search for the answers how to get to the place we see in a Frozen 3 concept art (ASGARD???!!!!) encounter his forest cottage where he sells these herbals, ask him for the spell that could transport them to that place, and at first, he is absorbed with offering them his handmade medicines and they look at him with shock and embarassment, but when he finally goes out from his talk to himself (he became a bit crazy but I love him still!!!! 💞💞💞), Elsa and Anna ask him for the way to that place, and he says he doesn't know that much of a magic, but Anna says something and he resists, giving them the spell they need. When they disappear, it's 100% revealed it's Hans because Sitron appears next to him, Hans (Helmuth????) says he doesn't know who he is, but later his passion and craziness comes back and we leave him preparing the next shelf of his herbals.
I just realized Hans's story in Frozen 3 mustn't be a sad edgy story for a 50% of the movie, but a bit of him in every movie, answering the "What happened to Hans?" question, and rather showing his comedic, positive side, especially if he doesn't remember who he is (AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE FIRST VERSION OF HANS WAS THAT POSITIVELY CRAZY TOUR GUIDE AND PROBABLY NARRATOR OF WHOLE FROZEN 1!!!!!! HOW CUTE IS IT TO REUSE IT??????!!!!!! 🥹🥹🥹💞💞).... Honestly I have enough of seeing Hans depressed, angry and sad, I think that amnesia plot could show us his funnier side and HELLO???? 99% OF SANTINO FONTANA'S MOVIE AND SERIES CHARACTERS ARE COMEDIC?????? HELLO?????
AND FROZEN CREW TOLD US FROZEN 3 AND 4 WILL BE SOMETHING WE DON'T EXPECT SO.... HERBAL SHAMAN HANS IS SOMETHING WE NEED????!!!! AND I NEED TO HEAR SANTINO FONTANA WITH THAT KINDA DRUNK HAPPY VOICE!!! 😂😂😂💞💞 (drunk Elsa in Frozen Fever exists hello????)
And in Frozen 4 he could return with a sad realization who he was before, and that would be return to the seriousness Hans still has, but once he had that much of it that he forgot how to be happy..... That would be not taken from him in Frozen 4 of course, but with an life of a positively crazy forest shaman and all that happiness he took from it, he would be definetely healthier 🥹💞
Anyway, give us drunk crazy shaman Hans. We need this 😂🥹💞
AND I NEED MAMA ODIE 2.0. BEING HANS. 😂😂😂😂💞 LIVE LAUGH LOVE MAMA ODIE SHE IS THE BEST!!!!
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fromthestonymountains · 2 years ago
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Cassandra and Elsa in Ahtohallan.
"Now you can see how truly monstrous I became, Elsa."
Based on the "Your Better Self" fanfic by @sniperct.
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I made the Black rocks that are crushing Eugene look more like a fist. I also made the memory in a cartoon style, to distinguish it more from "reality".
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disneyfanatic1993 · 6 months ago
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I’m Done Holding Back: Chapter Fifty-One
All art from the chapter of my Cassarian fanfic, “Chapter Fifty-One: So New.”
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