#feanorians being dads

[nerdanelparmandil]

Indulging into some kidnap family headcanons and ideas that I've had or have seen floating around my timeline.

I like to imagine that yes, love grew between them.

Love grew when Maglor would sing the children to sleep and banish their nightmares away.

Love grew when when the children were hungry, and Maedhros or Maglor would slide half of their portion of food into their plate, so that they would never go hungry.

Love grew when Elrond and Elros wanted to sneak into the kitchen and steal some sweet treats. Maglor would catch them and put the treats away, because human children might get cavities if they eat too much sweets. Maedhros would place the treats on their beds when no one was looking.

Love grew when Elros tired of learning music scales, and began to hide under Maedhros' desk.

Love grew when Elrond began to bring little injured animals inside, in order to treat them, begging Maglor to sing them better. Maglor indulged him, but the songs were never as effective as they could be, despite the power in Maglor's voice -- too much blood on his hands for them to be the hands of a healer.

Love grew when Elrond begged Maedhros to teach him how to use a sword, arguing that a dead healer was worse than a mediocre swordsman.

Love grew when Elrond and Elros understood that Maedhros was teaching them how to defeat him and Maglor should they ever be on opposite sides. (I read this somewhere and it breaks my heart everytime I think about it).

Love grew when Maglor would teach them how to be princes of the Noldor, how to behave in a court, how to welcome their guests. Maedhros would teach them languages and diplomacy, and how to keep a kingdom's finances in check.

Love grew, between a tale of their lineage and a chess match in front of the fire.

Love grew when Maedhros and Maglor would ride out to clear the lands of orcs and other foes, because they had two little princes to protect and keep safe.

Love was between them when Maedhros and Maglor gave them their own heirlooms to pass onto their future children, and sent them off to Gil-Galad with the rest of their scant court.

The last gift Maedhros and Maglor could give Elrond and Elros was to spare them the grief of their last moments, when the oath swallowed their last shreds of sanity.

[anittmyer]

Beat Friends Erestor and Elrond

Erestor and Elrond had been friends ever since Elrond came to Lindon in the First Age. Erestor was an orphaned peredhel (Caranthir and Haleth are his parents, but no one knows yet) who was apart of a traveling refugee group who originated from Thargelion who eventually settled in Lindon. The two bonded over being Peredhel and bookworms, but they grew closer when Elros chose the gift of men and Elrond felt alone.

In their late adolescence, an elf let slip of Erestor's identity as a Feanorian and many threats were directed at Erestor. Gil Galad was worried for his safety, so he communicated with Cìrdan to have the Lord of the Grey Havens take over fostering Erestor, though his departure was explained as an opportunity to expand his education.

Elrond was devastated, both he and Eresor cried through the nights leading up to Erestor leaving for the Grey Havens. Elrond was upset for days, even months. At this point Elros had left for Numenor, his responsibilities had kept him from even sending a letter. And now his only friend is leaving, all because the other elves couldn't separate Erestor from his parentage. This is another thing Elrond and Erestor bond over: Both being stuck in their families shadows.

The two end up reuniting when Elrond decides to found Imladris, Cìrdan sends Erestor to help advise Elrond, knowing after all of Elrond's hardships that the other Peredhel could use his best friend in his life again.

Erestor remains loyal to Elrond until their entire kind sail to the Undying Lands. He even stays behind with Glorfindel to watch over Elladan and Elrohir until the twins feel ready to leave Middle Earth as well.

Also Elrond is the one to "officiate" Glorfindel and Erestor's wedding! Elrond was such a proud bestie!

[vinyatar]

the burdens of the father are set upon the shoulders of the son

[cosmic-walkers]

I really love your art and the varying skin tones you use! This may sound like a strange question but what cultures/real life races do you take inspiration from? I hope that's okay to ask!

Hey anon that is beyond okay to ask! And honestly, all the characters who are poc I draw are black (unless I state otherwise). Like i just use varying skintones but I just take from black cultures (because there are tons) and use varying black skin tones/features.

like unless i state otherwise all of my characters i draw with tan/brown skin are just black. i do hc other characters to be white and i'll draw them as such, but most of my diverse characters are black just because that's what i know and am comfortable drawing. i don't want to be disrespectful and portray another culture in a harmful way. that's just me though!

[soothingmoonlight]

@dreamingthroughthenoise

Some tradition of pulling hair

[havenotwillnotreadthebooks]

Okay but consider; The Sons of Elrond reminding people of the Sons of Feanor.

Like, in Middle-Earth (ME) it wasn’t a big deal that E&E followed their dad around because it was just accepted as Harmless Peredhel Oddness.

But in Valinor, all these relatives keep visiting The House of Elrond because he’s the baby of every Finwion branch in existence. So these Finweans come around and just see Elrond’s sons somewhat hovering around him or staying in the general vicinity. Furthermore, Elrond isn’t just their dad, he’s also their lord-father and to Elrohir & Elladan, Elrond’s authority is above all else. Anyone, else.

Elrond casually tells his sons to do something simple and they do it without protest because it’s just getting a teapot or something, they may whine or groan like elflings for fun, but they get the teapot without question. That’s just how that relationship is. When the twins protest it’s loud and rare, and usually they just wanna follow their family members around (Arwen, Estel, Elrond, Celebrian).

But it’s just Elrond and Celebrian in Valinor, with Glorfindal, Lindir, and Erestor settling their own business elsewhere for a bit.

So these Finweans just see The Sons of Elrond (which they are canonically called) following their father around loyally, and mostly down to do anything for him (they swore an oath against all orcs for their mom, c’mon), and these Finweans start getting flashbacks to the Sons of Feanor in their youth.

The average Middle-Earth elf just sees the very close Peredhel Fam being a close family. The average Valinorean elf looks at the twins following Elrond around like ducklings and starts seeing ghosts.

It’s worse if Elrond is Feanorian, but even without that headcanon, it’s an uncanny likeness and it disturbs the Finweans that visit The House of Elrond.

(Celebrian, personally, thinks it’s funny).

[feanoryen]

Elven tattoo headcanons

I think tattoos will never be fully permanent for elves, they fade every hundred years, maybe they'll last a few hundred if your ink is of the highest quality & your tattoo artist is exceptional. It's not a flaw with the tattoos that they're never permanent permanent, elven biology just doesn't allow for it.

Miriel, being brilliant with a needle as ever & Finwe, who was a patron of the arts, invented tattoos in Cuiviénen.

Most of the Minyar weren't so fond of them but they were appreciated by several of the Tatyar & Nelyar.

It started out as Finwe just… painting on himself & his GF because why not? He started out using henna commonly used by his friend Elwe & the Teleri but he liked color so then he & Miriel decided to be ✨experimental✨ & *boom* tattoos! He developed the ink & she learned how to work a needle in skin.

Finwe has one on his back that Miriel did right before she got pregnant with Feanor that he never let anyone touch it up after she died even though it was fading, until Feanor got older and asked for his dad’s permission to do it himself.

Miriel used to have a tattoo on her back as well like Finwe’s but she didn’t get it redone after getting reembodied. She also used to have a few on her arms and legs and was overall quite bohemian before what happened, happened. She doesn’t regret co-creating tattoos but they don’t fit her anymore.

Feanor has 1 segmented tattoo along his collarbone. He has 2 stars about an inch tall/wide closest to his heart representing his parents, a slightly smaller but almost as big one near them representing himself, and seven even smaller ones trailing his left collarbone representing his sons.

Nerdanel doesn’t have tattoos, she’s chill if her kids want them but they’re personally not for her.

Fingolfin doesn’t have any for several reasons, they don’t fit him, he’s half Vanya & they’re not really into tattoos, & they were partially invented by Feanor’s mother so it’s weird. Findis doesn’t have any for the same reasons.

Finarfin despite also being half Vanya & closer to that side of his family than Fingolfin, is actually open to them despite not having any yet. He just does not gaf about what other people think.

Earwen has a ton of aesthetically pleasing sea themed motifs on her body.

Fingon has an eagle tattoo.

Maedhros has the star of Feanor tattooed on him but that’s it.

Maglor has a bunch of well put together gorgeous tattoos including both music motifs and symbols honoring his family like the Feanorian star and something for Elrond & Elros as well. They fade after he starts wandering the shores but he gets most of them redone in Valinor.

Celegorm used to have tattoos symbolizing Orome’s hunt but he lets all of them fade away in middle earth. If he ever joined the hunt again after getting reembodied, I imagine he only ever got 1 more tattoo symbolizing Orome. He’s accepted a part of his old life again but it’s not going to be the same.

Aredhel has a bow & arrow tattoo.

Curufin also has the star the Feanor & that’s it.

Caranthir used to have some in the equivalent of his teenage years but cringes looking back at them. They didn’t actually look bad at all and were quite nice but he just gives off the impression of someone who’d be unimpressed with his old self. He has none now.

Amrod & Amras get whatever they’re feeling whenever they’re feeling and change up their tattoos every couple centuries.

Galadriel has none because she thinks Feanor would feel smug if she did get them & she can’t let him be satisfied. (She loves henna though!)

Finrod has a bunch of different motifs representing all 3 of the clans that make up his heritage.

[serene-faerie]

The woobification of the sons of feanor is truly so ubiquitous it's wild. Almost every single fic about Celebrimbor's repudiation of his father that I've come across invariably concludes that Curufin *wanted* Celebrimbor to stay in Nargothrond where he would be safe from Oath-related consequences and like. Being in this fandom really is just being forced to see the Worst Takes 24/7. Celebrimbor 🤝 Huan 🤝 those Feanorians who turned on their comrades at the Third Kinslaying: literally illustrating that the actions of the sons of feanor led to them being deserted and disowned because they suck actually! But people will be like "what if Celebrimbor has no agency and this narratively significant and interesting difficult choice he made was actually about what a good dad Curufin is uwu"

You're so right, Anon. The woobification of Fëanor and his sons is so pervasive in this fandom that it really affects how people see the choices made by these characters, and even how other characters are seen as a whole. And what really annoys me is when people try to avoid having the Fëanorians face consequences for their actions, or try to spin other characters' decisions to reflect them positively. For a fandom where people love to claim that their favorite characters are war criminals or dumpster fires, these people seem almost afraid to even enjoy the characters as the war criminals that they are. If you're going to enjoy the Fëanorians, then that means you have to embrace their uglier side, not try to downplay their heinous actions or justify them. At that point, you don't like the Fëanorians; you just like a bunch of OCs.

Celebrimbor disowning his father has nothing to do with Curufin wanting to keep him safe from the Oath. It was Celebrimbor's choice to disown his family, and to try and spin it into something that reflects positively on Curufin does a huge disservice to Celebrimbor's character. Likewise, Huan abandoning Celegorm has nothing to do with Celegorm secretly wanting his dog to be safe. It was Huan's choice to turn on his master after he proved to be a horrible person.

And furthermore, the whole story of Fëanor and his sons is supposed to be a tragedy. The lengths they go to for the Silmarils is a showcase of their ongoing downfall. They've alienated potential allies left and right, done nothing to make amends for their crimes, and instead commit even worse crimes against the people of Beleriand. Like, the whole point of Celebrimbor, Huan, and those ex-followers turning against them is to show just how far the Fëanorians have fallen, and that these are the consequences of their actions! The Fëanorians deserve to face consequences for their actions, and trying to put a positive spin on those consequences just diminishes the tragic downfall of the Sons of Fëanor.

To be clear, I have nothing against people who like the Fëanorians. My main issue is with the people who constantly try to justify their worst actions, blame the victims of the Kinslayings, or bash on other characters in order to uplift the Fëanorians. And I especially have an issue with people who try to make Beren and Lúthien into the villains of their own story to make Celegorm and Curufin look better.

(Also, I really don't like takes where Celebrimbor just easily reconciles with his family in Aman. I think he has every right to keep his distance from them and want nothing to do with them, and he's not a bad guy for it either.)

[soothingmoonlight]

@dreamingthroughthenoise

Nice afternoon in Amon Ereb.

[scary-grace]

☕️ feanorians 👀 i know you have thoughts...

I do indeed have thoughts about the Feanorians, and I will admit that some of my gripes with the Feanorians are gripes with their fans. But when I’ve read the Silmarillion, it seemed that a strong-ish argument could be made that the Feanorians are the villains of the story, not the tragic heroes. Sure, the initial sin is committed by Morgoth in murdering Finwe and stealing the Silmarils, both of which are inexcusable, but from that point on, the terrible things being done in the narrative are largely being done by the Feanorians to everybody else. And no one — absolutely no one — is compelling them to do it.

I like a good tragedy as much as the next person. To me, one of the key features of a tragedy is its inexorability— the smallest details and circumstances, all piling up on one another to force an outcome no one wanted, with no one able to stop it until it’s too late. The Feanorians as a group (and their plotlines) are missing that inexorability to me. Finwe’s ghost doesn’t appear to Feanor Hamlet’s-dad style to order him to seek vengeance. Feanor does it on his own, which means that destruction of his own family and the thousands of people who die over the course of the War for the Jewels (and subsequently the War of Wrath) are his responsibility. Nobody pushed him into it. He was warned against it by just about everyone. And yet, off he goes.

I referenced Hamlet in the above paragraph, but when I’m thinking of tragedy, I kind of revert back to the Ancient Greek tragedies — Oedipus Rex and the Oresteia. Oedipus does everything a hero is supposed to do, but events set in motion by a single decision that wasn’t even his to make create a catastrophe that he’s powerless to avert. Orestes, meanwhile, knows damn well why he shouldn’t kill his own mother. He knows what will happen to him if he does. But he’s compelled to anyway, by culture and by honor and by grief.

The cultural factor doesn’t exist for the Feanorians. There’s no precedent in Noldorin culture for what to do if your father is murdered, and there’s no commandment to drag your entire family down with you in a quest for revenge that’s doomed to fail. And the ignorance factor doesn’t exist, either. Every decision is squarely in Feanor’s (and later, his sons’) hands, and they have all the information they need to make choices that won’t result in three Kinslayings, five disastrous battles, one child-kidnapping, and an attempt at forcing marriage in a culture where consent is the entire ballgame. The Feanorians act with malice. They disregard their own people and their own allies. Morgoth doesn’t make them commit the massacre at Sirion (you know, the one that even the Feanorian fans can’t defend); that’s one hundred percent pure Feanorian initiative. That’s not the behavior of tragic heroes. Those are the actions of villains.

So my thoughts on the Feanorians are that if the Silmarillion is a tragedy, they’re the villains, not the heroes. If the Silmarillion is a fable, they’re the bad example. (Tolkien reinforces this in The Hobbit — I don’t think it’s an accident that Thorin goes berserk and tries to kill one of his closest allies over a big shiny rock.) If the Silmarillion is a history, their response to Morgoth is the architecture on which thousands of years of tragedy are built. However they got to where they are at the moment of Finwe’s death (the Valar yoinking them all from Middle-earth was a bad move), at the end of the day, they’re still the ones holding the sword.*

*(Part of my insistence on the Feanorians being the bad guys is a response to some corners of the fandom trying to exonerate them for absolutely everything by blaming their victims. I’ve seen people say the first Kinslaying was Olwe’s fault for not giving up the ships, that the second Kinslaying was Dior’s fault for not giving up the Silmaril his parents retrieved, that the third Kinslaying was Elwing’s fault for — existing, I guess. And that it was just so mean of Thingol not to immediately submit to the people who murdered his brother. Anything to get Maedhros and company off the hook.)

Thank you for the ask! Sorry if I rambled a bit — once I got into trying to actually articulate my problems, it got a little complicated.

[chaos-of-the-abyss]

im sorry but i find it funny how you went from tolerating feanorians and those apologists to just straight up admitting your disdain for them. seriously, i feel you on that, because its those type that pushed me away from liking the feanorians, and sadly, it drove me away from liking elrond as well (i know, i'm horrible) because of the many times he's been used as a weapon to shit on elwing or any of her family like y'all i can see the bs from miles away with that

let me tell you anon, i've reached my limit for "everyone can have their own opinion uwu" after the continuous slew of """opinions""" that have zero canon basis and are obviously trying to make the feanorians look better and more moral while simultaneously condemning their literal victims. it is funny too bc like i've said they used to be some of my favorite characters - and i still very much enjoy them as they are in the story - but the refusal of so many of their "fans" to engage with the people they actually are is frustrating and ridiculous. you'd think if you like a character you wouldn't feel the need to sanitize their actions. at that point just write your own original story of misunderstood "forced by circumstance to commit mass murder" tragic heroes, because whichever characters it is you're stanning there, it's not the feanorians

i still do adore elrond (the canon version of him, not the fanon "maglor is my real dad!!11!1! also i hate my parents bc they Abandoned Me" knockoff), but i do steer clear of content that's not from my mutuals lol. like you said some characterization choices are so blatantly just using him as ammunition for their "we want m&m to be elrond and elros' real parents, so we have to make elwing as bad as possible so m&m become better caretakers by comparison despite being the reason elrond and elros no longer have their family, home, and friends" pipeline. it's transparent as hell and especially annoying considering that elwing lost her family and home and was displaced as a toddler thanks to the feanorians' actions. then when they come back and take everything from her a second time you want to vilify her while glorifying them? using her sons who in canon clearly loved and respected her? lmao

[sandwichmustbetasty]

half of the season 1 behind and these are my feelings:

making galadriel so un-galadriel - horrible, she is the daughter of high king finarfin and would never behave like a petulant child going on her merry way to seek sauron. she would also not wear feanorian star for fuck's sake

numenor - terribly rushed, don't like it's downfall being sped up like 1500 years, give the Men some credit

the whole people living in mordor story - eh, not great, the men there are kind of annoying, but rooting for arondir

whole weird thing with elvish politics honestly and elrond being somehow treated as lesser because of his heritage (his heritage is literally the most prominent heroes and kings of middle earth. and also a maia. his dad literally ended the war so.)

where the hell is celeborn and celebrian - i so wanted to see the blooming romance between celebrian and elrond, i would give everything to see them together

now for the things i DO enjoy

elrond's baby face - he's my pookie i love him (also writes speeches for gil, very in character, love that for him) just a baby, must protecc

elrond & durin's friendship - yes. just the right amount of sass (and elrond forgetting that dwarves are mortal and not visiting for 20 years might be in bad taste), they are great together, please more

durin & disa - YES, shame they didn't give the dwarf women beards, but still, disa is amazing, they relationship is so precious to me

gil-galad - finally an elf with long hair, very noldor-looking, very nice, very nice (his golden robes are fucking obnoxious but oh well, he's a king, also real fandom-made Finrod would 10000% approve of that choice and would suggest adding some thousand shimmering jewels), he looks so done with everyone's shit and i love that about him (he's a russingon child you can pry this headcanon from my cold dead hands and you will still not succeed)

tyelpe - jesus where do i even start. he is fucking old but seeing his soft face just brings me so much joy. the softest, brightest boy, just wanting to make fancy jewellery, absolutely no harm will ever come to him. i adore him with every fibre of my being. he is so eager with his forge project, so eager to meet the dwarves, just so eager to learn; feanor would be so proud

also adar - it brings new, uncomfortable perspective of something most of us knew before, that the orcs and elves are not so far removed, and whether or not orcs deserve anything other than being stabbed. i always struggled with the bit in lotr where we see that they actually do not all want to fight and are very much slaves. it's uncomfortable to come to the conclusion that the world is not white and black and maybe orcs don't deserve only to be wiped out when their corruption is not of their doing. a nice touch i'd say.

[soothingmoonlight]

@dreamingthroughthenoise

[ID: digital painting of Maglor, Elros and Elrond. Maglor, an elf with long dark hair with decorative braids, is sitting in a brass-coloured wheelchair and holding a lyre, shrugging. A speech bubble above him says "Nelyo! You'll never guess what happened!" Elros and Elrond (identical half-elven twins with brown skin and dark hair) are about 12 years old and are standing on either side of Maglor. Elros, wearing blue, has his arms crossed and is looking mischievous, and his hair is cropped at the shoulders. Elrond, wearing red, has a long braid, he is looking back and scratching his neck.]

Maglor and the twins from my series the bark of our bones. I've been taking disability prompts but I should also sketch my own headcanons! (I still have a couple prompts to draw, if you've sent one, don't worry, it's coming.)

Maglor's wheelchair was of course designed by Curufin, with help from Celebrimbor. This is an advanced version, they've made a bunch of different chairs over the years (I have many headcanons, some of which I will write eventually). In this AU Maglor tried to rescue Maedhros from Angband and was captured too, and his legs were injured there.

It's a lighter moment set a year or so before the Host of the Valar arrives: Elros decided to cut off his hair and Maglor is powerless at saying no to the twins.

Disabled Tolkien characters series

Under the cut: two versions with different backgrounds because I just couldn't choose

Also an attempt at making the wheelchair and the lyre more silvery.

[silvantransthranduiltrash]

Ok, no, but wouldn’t it be hilarious is the feanorians are closer in age to their half aunts/uncles than their cousins?

(Hc obviously)

Like, feanor fell in love, married, and had maitimo pretty much as soon as he turned of age, but finwe kinda waited to have kids with indis untill his first child was grown up bc he felt guilty or smth. Also bc most elves don’t immediately have kids when they get married.

Anyway, it results in:

Findis and Maitimo being the same age.

Nolofinwe and Makalaure being the same age.

Lalwen and Tyelkormo being the same age.

And Arafinwe and Carnister being the same age.

Listen, they’re not doing it on purpose, having them born so close to each other, it just happened.

But imagine how wild it must be! Imagine the feanorians being told to listen to their aunts/uncles and half of them are straight up like “they’re literally my age/younger than me”

Imagine only the twins being in the age range of their cousins, by which i mean that amras, amrod, and Findekano being the same age, and the rest of the cousins are all younger.

Imagine how funny/weird it must be for the cousins to be told to call an elf, that is older than their dad, cousin instead of uncle.

Idk, i just think it’d be fricking hilarious. Just, the family dynamic would be so interesting. Also, it’s make feanor naming maitimo nelyafinwe more understandable bc (depending on whether he’s born before or after findis) he would be the third (male) finwe.

Idk, just thoughts. Just a fun little blorbo. Don’t take it to seriously.

[malkaleh]

Caught up on Rings Of Power. My many many (delighted) feels

Charlie Vickers is so terrifyingly good - Sauron is alluring awful! You can absolutely understand how incredibly horribly competent Sauron is as a villain - how much he does get into everyone’s head.

Absolutely believe he’s too terrified to say Luthien’s name fyi because listen, if Luthien returned the war would be over in five seconds at MOST. Sauron just running away begging to be locked in the void, just don’t let HER NEAR HIM SHE MIGHT SING SEND HELP.

I need him to meet Elrond and just be like TERROR.

Celebrimbor is going to break my heart because you can see Sauron manipulating how much he wants to genuinely do good, to create something good, to have the Feanorian Craftsmanship stand for good again and OH SHIT FUCK (me at Sauron STAY AWAY FROM HIM YOU FUCKER).

I’m wondering if we might have actually met Celebrian there (also me at Sauron: GET A JOB STAY AWAY FROM HER).

Tom BOMBADIL. SHIRE ORIGINS. Almost certainly A Gandalf.

Tar-Miriel you are THE BEST and anyway you and Elendil GET MARRIED AND HAVE A LONG LIFE TOGETHER AND EVERYONE IS FINE. (Ar-Pharazon needs to stay away from them both).

You know I hate Ar-Pharazon don’t get me wrong but his fuckass son is The Worst I hope he gets sacrificed first. And I do go between feeling deeply sorry for Elendil’s daughter and also being like You Self Righteous AAAAGH.

Valandil :(((((.

Arondir is the dad who stepped up.

Isildur <333333. I am so attached to him and obviously his BESTEST HORSIE. (Aragorn coming by his horse girl genes honestly).

MY SWEET BABY BIRACIAL ELROND (listen one day I will have my canonically biracial Elrond played by a biracial actor but Robert I love your Elrond). I am so glad we are getting kind as summer and also obviously trauma but tbh I hate the Jackson Elrond depiction I’m so sorry I just, Elrond is not haughty/rude.

BRONWYN IS FINE SHE AND ARONDIR ARE FOUNDING DOL AMROTH cc @nocompromise-noregrets

BEREN MENTION BEREN MENTION BEREN MENTION.

Sauron just being a dog guy is Something. He’s really just like ‘who’s my best abomination of darkness? Who’s my sweet devourer of light? IT’S YOU! You are the bestest boy!’

DURIN :DDDDDDDDD

Elendil is The Most Tired DILF.

Sauron (about Galadriel): soon as she unblocks me the wedding is back on (no but seriously, there is a desire there - I mean obviously it’s not like, caring about her, about Celebrimbor but it’s not unattached either. It’s like…possession).

G-d there is so so much gorgeous lore in this show I love it so much and also it’s going to hurt so so much.

(I can’t recall whether it was Isildur or Elendil who nabs the White Tree sapling before Numenor is sunk I cannot believe we will be seeing that on screen).

(Ar-Pharazon and Elendil as ex boyfriends or something when)

[imfromthemiddlekingdom]

There’s been a persistent headcanon I cannot get rid of in my head. There’s been many contradictory statements on when Finwë and Indis got married and how old Feanor was when they did. We know Feanor married young and I don’t imagine Nerdanel and him wasted anytime to get going making babies unless Feanors fear of childbirth got to him due to his mothers death. But if we consider that elf’s are said to have other kids when the first child is grown or as close to it as possible and Nolofinwë was the second child of Finwë and Indis, there’s a chance that Maedhros is older or at least the same age as Nolofinwë. This means that at least four of Feanors kids are older than their aunt and uncles and the rest may be older than all their cousins added together. I’m just thinking of the dynamics between cousins if the Feanorians are that much older than them. We know Maedhros was close to Fingon in Valinor, Curufin and Celegorm was said to be close to both Aredhel and their Arafinwean cousins, it makes for an interesting dynamic if all of them were older than them.

If Maedhros was born around the same time as Fingons father their dynamic is all the more interesting. And since Celegorm is the third eldest he might be around Arafinwes age if this headcanon holds true, and that makes his friendship with both Nolofinwes daughter and the sons of Arafinwe all the more interesting. Although the most interesting may just be Caranthirs beef with elves younger than his younger brothers. Imagine a grown Caranthir glowering at 50 year old Aegnor or Angrod.

If Meadhros was born before Nolofinwë then his father name Nelyafinwë would be less of a pointed jab towards his uncle and more of Feanor reaffirming his own line of succession, but that could mean that Indis named Nolofinwë “high chieftain” in retaliation but I don’t want to think of her as that much of a petty person no matter how interesting that line of character development may be. Or if Nōlo was a bit older than Maedhros I can definitely see Feanor being that stupendously petty and aiming to hurt his new born infant brother who’s the same size as his son.

I think an AU where all seven of Feanors sons are closer in age to their aunts and uncles than their cousins would be really interesting, especially since we know how much each sons friendship with their cousins meant to them and vice versa inspite of the betrayal as Losgar and the First kinslaying. Even after the first kinslaying Celegorm and Curufin fled to Finrod and was welcomed and was the vanguard needed for Orodreth to escape, we know that even after the sons of Feanor condemned the entire host of Nolofinwë to cross the grinding ice Aredhel still went to visit them first after escaping her guards when she fled gondolin. I think it would be much more interesting if they instead were their fathers age then there’s cuz it really does show how fucked elven aging is compared to our understanding of how we age and age differences.

Also I think it would be hilarious for caranthir to have beef with babies ngl. I think it’s hilarious he’d want to throw hands with golden haired toddlers when he’s the same age as their dad.