#entitled fans

[a-hearts-a-heavy-burden]

"The women of ghost are treated so differently to the men," is not the statement you think it is.

IE : When the women fuck up they cry on camera and you forgive them right away

When the men have an association w/ someone you don't like you harrass, belittle & mock them.

"Per isn't receiving the harassment Laura and Sophie did."

Do you WANT him to?? Like, is that your goal?? For Per, who is guilty of having a girlfriend y'all can't stand, to receive the hate, vitriol, harassment and threats Laura and Sophie did??

You all cry about equality between the band members but a single fucking tear from a woman who knew EXACTLY what she was doing was WRONG made y'all soft and give in.

Yet you all want the world to fucking stop and the sky to fall on top of Per because he has a girlfriend who APPARENTLY is a Zionist (though nobody has shown any proof)

Guilty by association means he deserves harrassment, hate, death threats, to be fired as Dewdrop and made to lose all his friends and loved ones because YOU don't understand fucking nuance?! Because YOU went digging and found a photo YOU THOUGHT was problematic without doing a single fucking iota of research?? Because YOU can't be bothered to give up your hateful attitude for clarification and understanding?! Someone else's life needs to end because you're a hateful soul??

Fuck all of the way off with that. When you get to the end of fucking off just keep fucking off until you can't even remember what you're fucking off for then continue on. I am so fucking done with y'all.

OH AND HIS DOG IS ADORABLE SO FUCK OFF WITH THAT TOO.

[hersheysmcboom]

Whenever someone hate a character simply because they stand in the way of a ship or becuase fans think they should be with a character but they are not,

[thej2report]

Ok this pisses me off so much.

You pay thousands of dollars to go to a convention and then have the audacity to boo Jensen and Jared. You can clearly hear some female fan saying "Jensen" then start booing. Thankfully, the other fans started cheering loudly to cover it up. Like bitch shut your mouth! Be grateful he is even there this weekend. He worked all night long Friday night filming so he could make it there late Saturday afternoon to be able to sign autos and take photo ops with you today.

[laf-outloud]

https://www.tumblr.com/laf-outloud/729352322916007936/nice-of-your-followers-to-say-cunty-little-jab?source=share

Here's the thing, I get that the atmosphere when you're at the con might seem better and more positive and we see a lot of wank online that probably isn't as obvious at the con. But even if you ignore all that, we can still watch all the panels. We still see the fans who will insult Jared and praise Jensen in the same breath just to then pull a "this question is for Jensen". We watch fans talk for 5 minutes about worshipping Jensen and then ask him about his bracelets. We see faces waste panel time to talk about their inappropriate Jensen shirts and then show off their creepy Jensen tattoos. During a half hour panel. We SEE all of this with our own two eyes. We hear the questions. We see the rude ops and hear the stories about how rude some fans are to his face (or to Jared fans just walking around the con). Is that the majority of the people? Of course not, no one is claiming that. But to act like those things don't happen, or don't matter, or don't affect people? Does a disservice to everyone.

Jared has admitted to seeing things online from haters and how it affects him, do you think people doing it to his face in public doesn't affect him? Do you think, to a lesser extent, it doesn't hurt Jared fans having to either deal with Jared-antis directly at the cons or just see the person they like have to deal with stuff like that and handle it with such grace and professionalism? To know that Jared doesn't feel safe eating any treats he gets anymore because there is a real threat of him being poisoned. To know that he needs extra security just to do what should be a (somewhat) fun and easy job? Newsflash, it feels shitty anon.

So yea, maybe the atmosphere AT cons isn't as wanky and negative as we see online - I think we all already got that one. But to act like it's nothing isn't helpful. To not address and acknowledge it is to give these people permission by sheer omission to continue to behave the way they do. Lack of accountability breeds this continued behavior. Naming it and addressing it isn't trying to detract from fans enjoyment of cons - on the contrary its trying to help make it enjoyable for everyone, not just certain loud groups.

Perfectly said, anon! You've summed it up better than I ever could!

[breefarrow]

I saw an anon saying "How can I enjoy H when H does so much stunting now." Since 2020 somehow stunting has been a huge shock for ppl saying things like this anon as if he hasn't been hailed a "lady's man/womanizer" since he was a teenage and they were linking him up with a 30+ grown ass women.

This anon is a prime example of those the other week who were talking about how some in this fandom have such "entitlement" when it's comes to harry/louis/larry. "How can I enjoy" - stop right there ✋🏻 if you can't enjoy anything when it comes to harry/louis/larry then why bother sticking around ??

As usual anons like that seem to forget the fact that any point they can just leave instead of being here and being miserable every time two closeted men working in a homophobic industry do something that shows they are still closeted. *P.S. There's a difference between ppl who are upset at the situation vs ppl who make this about themselves getting upset L&H would " happily" do these things*

That anons statement just reaks of entitlement and how they ONLY care about their own personal gain from this fandom/larry. People like that always use the term I because it's all about themselves and when it's a "larrie" it's usually someone who was/is only here for a picture perfect coming out ending and this is how they react whenever the reality of larrys situation especially harrys is shown. 😮‍💨

[bogcreacher]

hey man love your comics! sorry people don’t treat you like a person

[mountainsoftreatos]

Apparently fans harassed Jayden so badly about the price of the cameos that he released this message on discord -

That's heartbreaking. George's cameos started at $50 so why would anyone be surprised that it would be double for George AND Jayden. Second, the show we are all here for and love was CANCELLED. These are two working actors who were let go from Netflix who need an income just as much as the rest of us. Yes IMO it IS a gift for them to interact with us, AND they deserve to be paid for their time.

For Jayden to go from "keep screaming keep shouting" to being done with the DBDA fandom. Damn. Whoever was harassing him should frankly buy a cameo just to apologize. The entitlement of a person thinking cameos should be cheap just because they want one is toddler behavior. And then harassing Jayden about it is not ok, at all. Online bullying of celebrities is not ok. I hope Jayden enjoys his cameos and his fun with George and goes on to live his best life.

[bixels]

vague-posting about this here cuz i don't feel comfortable yapping about my su takes on twitter, but after everything that's happened the most interesting thing about the su fandom to me is that so many are 100% there for applying the "everyone can change and deserves a second chance" message to everyone, even the diamonds. except for one ☝️ she doesn't count. cuz she's dead.

[coockie8]

what so people like me just dont have a right to read good wholesome unproblematic fiction it all has to be gross incest and pedo shit

I mean, you absolutely have the right to engage with whatever type of fiction you want.

What you don't have the right to is demanding other people, typically complete strangers, cater their creative output to you.

People who create the wholesome fiction you so crave do, in fact, exist, you just happen to be spending all your time looking for stuff you don't like so you can have an excuse to complain.

And even if no other creators who write the type of fiction you're talking about existed, you do. Chop chop, better get creative, because you still don't have the right to demand free labour from anyone, let alone complete strangers, just because what you're looking for doesn't happen to exist yet.

[wishesofeternity]

The thing about HotD is that it while it absolutely minimizes the agency and ambition of both Rhaenyra and Alicent, this is specifically used to glorify Rhaenyra and frame her as righteous while condemning Alicent and framing her lacking. That's the key difference in both their textual portrayals that has directly led to 90% of the fandom hailing Rhaenyra as the second coming of Christ while spewing the most hateful vitriol at Alicent just for existing. But y'all are not prepared for that conversation.

[danwhobrowses]

Goodness this is like the third episode in a row begetting discourse among the cr fandom. For me this discourse has two perspectives where the division depends on whose perspective you're looking at;

For the armies it was 'We've been sent by the gods and are here to help you stop Predathos as we pla-wait, you're a vessel of Predathos? Isn't that just like Ludinus planned??' which yeah is valid from their perspective

For the Hells it was 'We just came out of 4 back-to-back battles with Ludinus and Predathos itself, we have a solution to save the gods but change the dynamic but we want to discuss it privately with the gods first and now you're trying to kill us!?' which is also valid

What puts me more on BH's side is that we have the context; BH are allowed to be terse when people try to kill them and fail, least of all allies who don't ask for an explanation before asking their god to come down and smite them. They're not villains because they snarked at the person who attempted to sic their god on them, and it's not as if Imogen sic'd Predathos on them in retaliation. Once again they are met with the thankless job and burden that they neither wanted or asked for, but was thrust upon them anyway. With all the times Bells Hells have been criticized for being aimless and indecisive it seems a little strange to criticize them now for being focused and decisive.

Could they have explained from the start? Maybe. Would it have caused a different reaction the moment they said Predathos is in Imogen? Probably not. I can't tell you why they didn't come out of the Cage and immediately explain because I'm not the players; perhaps they wanted to avoid the hysteria and conflict, perhaps they were drained from the fight and wanted to wrap up the episode, or perhaps it was just down to Bell's Hells, as with all CR campaign parties, being infamously bad at communicating, I don't know.

But it's times like these where it's worth reminding that this is a DnD show, nerdy-ass voice actors having fun, it can't always be clean and clear-cut storytelling every second. And sometimes as a fandom we need to take a step back so we don't get ourselves stuck, because we're probably making it deeper than it is and getting annoyed at each other over our interpretation of two groups from the same side getting annoyed at each other. Just, take a breath.

[mr-mistyeyed]

oldies station is such a beautiful and meaningful song to me.. i hope tyler knows the clique loves oldies station

[eloiseyybish]

Touching on recent 9-1-1 fandom discourse, I think it's important to contextualise. You see, the thing is, I've typically in the past shipped non-canon ships, but they've taught me a lot about fandom culture.

Ngl, this kinda started with The Mighty Ducks (Charlie/Adam shippers rise) and keeps going onto fuckin Klance (I'm just mad about how the writers left Lance and Allura as individual characters regardless of their romantic status at the time) and Zosan (OPLA did not help this).

So I 10000% know what it's like to ship something and for it to never to be canon because that's like 95% of most ships (especially gay ones) in fandom.

I promise you...if Buddie doesn't go canon... you'll live. You'll still have the same fanon couple that you've worshipped for so long.

Just, please... stop the 'Tommy Bashing' fics just because he is hot enough to make Buck discover his sexuality (instead of Eddie). I don't have the energy especially when some people don't even un-tag Bucktommy with these fics. They still keep Buck/Tommy as the main couple even though all they're doing is making Tommy OOC and an asshole (idk I haven't actually read the fic because I muted the creator when I saw that's what they were doing)

This is all new to me.

Normally, I don't ship the canon one, but Bucktommy is cute, guys, and idk what to tell you if you disagree. There isn't a single interaction they've had (in canon, not fanon) to show you that they don't desperately want to know each other better.

My point is: YOU DO NOT NEED YOUR SHIP TO BE CANON FOR YOU TO SHIP IT. As a veteran, I'm so shocked at the entitlement of NEEDING your favourite ship to be canon because that's the only way it's valid.

Please, grow up and understand that things don't happen in this world just because you want them to. Canon or not shouldn't stop you from being able to enjoy the dynamic.

[thevulturesquadron]

She. Was. There. She was in Genosha during the massacre. She saw SO many die because people hated and feared them. She held the damaged body of a loved one in her arms till dawn.

Gotta stop seeing everything through the friggin’ lenses of a ship or another. There is more to a character and their choices than who you want to see them smooch with.

Stop it! Some of you out there really don’t deserve Rogue.

[laf-outloud]

https://www.tumblr.com/laf-outloud/744966830492434432/its-funny-that-its-always-hellersaascockles

To be fair, some of those who are complaining about Mark P going to the con are con-goers, and some fairly frequent. But, that still doesn’t give them the right to try dictate who a con hires. Also, unless the guys is actually hurting people, him having different politics than them does not actually make him a criminal. There is too much entitlement to the notion that “if you don’t believe exactly what I’d do, you’re mean, bad, evil.” If you don’t want to see a specific actor at a con, for whatever reason, you have 2 simple options, don’t go to that con, or don’t go to any of that actors panels/activities. It’s really that simple.

I also think people are free to make their complaints, but trying to rally people to pile on is just .. borderline creepy to me. It’s very much the idea that it’s okay to have mob mentality and railroad people as long as they are the “right” people to hate. That’s never been a bad thing historically, right?

Anyway, any actor who brings in good money, will be welcomed back, barring legal action or wide-spread negative press (not write-ups on Screen Rant or, like, Fan Girl’s Weekly).

I don’t even really like Mark P, but I’m more indifferent to him than anything else. But I have a feeling his “bullying” was probably provoked by the brave kind of fan girls who feel justified in hating on people they don’t agree with, and then running and crying when they get slapped for it (metaphorically). It was easy to just not go to his panels. I strongly dislike misha, but I haven’t written to CE asking them to can him.

Also, if anyone should be banned from anything it’s Emmie. She went to like every Jake and Chill, so she thinks she’s his friend or something. And she kept adding her opinions and trying to monopolize Jake’s attention in the event I went to. I didn’t actually pay to hear a childish fan girl talk, thanks.

You make some excellent points, anon! And yes, people do have the right to contact Creation and let them know about their personal wants for cons, but they also have to be careful because if they make claims that get an actor dismissed from cons, and those claims turn out to be false, then the actor may have a legal case for slander, especially if it hurts their reputation/income.

And to add, ugh... I can't imagine being at an event where someone takes over like that and basically ruins it for everyone else, including the actor, who I'm sure would like to pay attention to the other attendees. (I also recall she's the same one who went crying to Jim and the other cast when she was bullied out of Jai's group. That kind of attention-seeking is toxic and unhealthy for all involved.)

[jesse-pinko]

Okay I’ve never really been more than a casual enjoyer of WWDITS and I recognize that some people definitely took shipping in the vampire comedy show too seriously as fandom is wont to do but imo even if it isn’t queerbaiting the ending left a bad taste in my mouth. Deliberately marketing your show by teasing a popular gay ship that you purposefully wrote with that subtext behind it, and then not delivering on the dynamic you set up and implying that queer fans were just being delusional and entitled and perverse by wanting these two characters to be explicitly together in the year 2024… it’s giving BBC Sherlock like there’s so much contempt here for queer fans wanting to see onscreen representation of what could have been a pretty well developed gay relationship. Maybe it’s bc I grew up w this shit being the norm but I kind of think people have the right to be pissed by getting cucked out of gay rep in goddamn 2024