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my personal headcanon is the vees were unremarkable nobodies when they were alive. i just love it as a thematic throughline for them. they love to let the public of hell speculate on them being famed and acclaimed since before death, but the the truth is they were a d-list failed influencer that got by on cheap controversey and scamming, a broke junkie who burned every shaky bridge he ever had, and a worn-out broadcast production assistant with more rejected auditions and tossed out script pitches than he could count. nobody missed them when they were gone, nobody cared who they were until they were dead.
#because villains who didn't start off supremely powerful are more interesting to me#vees#it's not that they CAN'T be better. or that they're simply ignorant of the ways they fuck up others lives#they actually all do have that knowledge of being the underdog. and it's made them all the more shitty#because they never want to be those people again#narratives about people who make each other worse <3#to be clear they were still shitty people in life. manipulative. consumed by greed and envy. all their individual flaws etc etc#but hell made them into the absolute worst versions of themselves#of course what their Worst Self is and the journey/length of time/initial reaction to being in hell varies#like val sees hell as a continuation of the things happening in life. just w/ the power dynamics always privileging him#it's the same drugs and violence. except the violence isn't just survival anymore but the chance to indulge his deeply sadistic desires#vox has completely dissociated from his time alive. that person is dead and he's reinvented himself 1000 times over since then#90% of the time he has those memory files shoveled into a hidden directory#he refuses to acknowledge that he's still haunted by some of the same insecurities from almost a century ago#val doesn't necessarily see his living self in a fond light but he does see that person as fundamentally him#velvette thinks life was full of people who weren't her demographic but fortunately that's been fixed by sinners!#they just couldn't Get Her and that was all their faults#the primary way they view their past selves can be summed up as: scorn (vox) apathy (valentino) and in denial (velvette)#sorry the bulk of the post was in the tags. i will be doing this again#the scorn is the coping mechanism for shame. of course
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sys culture is when we get really high we switch easier and our amnesia barriers go down??? We don't know why but it's fascinating
It has the same effect on us
#endos dni#osdd#did#pdid#did system#osddid#pdid system#actually did#traumagenic#actually dissociative#plural culture is#syspunk#tw marijuana#cw marijuana#tw drug use#cw drug use
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as much as i have personal beef with nora for the way she does not gaf about the foxes or their trauma (this is a joke pls don’t come for me) i am honestly looking forward to the rest of the tsc trilogy to maybe redeem her for that, possibly positioning those books as a, sort of, foil to the main series. one thing i feel like people really don’t get about the main series is how deeply rooted in the trauma of its characters it is. like some of them are going through actively depicted trauma throughout the series. i think that’s another reason why there’s such a clear divide between the upper classmen and the monsters, because the upper classmen are already in the process of healing from or at least bettering themselves a little bit in terms of their trauma. the only time the monsters are even remotely close to that is andrew and aaron going to sessions with bee. for the most part, they’re actively going through events that are traumatic. the series is not about them healing, which is why i think a lot of the fandom becomes so divided about characterization, we are not necessary seeing them for their true selves, we are seeing them through the lens of unhealthy coping mechanisms and layers of pain. but back to my original point about tsc it really centers the idea of healing in a way that (don’t even get my started on the extra content 🙄) the foxes never get to experience in their books. i’ve seen a lot of people be like oh yeah i can’t wait for more angst, and yes, there’s no easy way to heal from trauma, it is extremely rough so there will undoubtedly be angst moments from jean and maybe even jeremy if we find out what’s up with him. but i think a really key thing to talk about is that the sadness is a jumping point for happiness and healing. like the romance aspect of the story is important because we are seeing them heal together and actually get good things ! sure it’s important that they do reflect on that trauma which will means that trauma is present in the books (angst hours) but i do really like that tsc is tame and “boring”, that they get boba and coffee, and get to live like normal college kids despite it all. i would really love more of the fandom to embrace that for the foxes too tbh. again with all love to her, i think nora accidentally built them into a trauma prison and it would be nice to see all of the characters escaping out of that.
tldr: i’m sick of people only liking this series for its sucky shit cause i would like to see characters healing depicted in media !! (esp to this quite accurate degree)
#i started dissociating half way through this so if i don’t make any sense whoops#and again no hate but i think there is a time where andrew talks to people without the drugs and neil uses his phone etc#normal things that aren’t even necessarily a direct getting over specific traumas#aftg#all for the game#neil josten#the foxhole court#kevin day#andrew minyard#the sunshine court#aftg tsc#tsc#andreil#aftg commentary#is that not a tag?#it should be
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wait could you elaborate on peeta having OSDD-2 im curious 0:
Context.
I’ll leave a link for OSDD-2 and his Hijacking here and here. Note that it’s been awhile since I watched the movies or read the books, so details may be wrong or off.
But in short, although he is obviously a fictional character and wasn’t like..diagnosed with anything officially, he is basically held captive and tortured, brainwashed for weeks.
He is drugged and dosed with tracker jacker venom against his will while being tortured and held in captivity, which is said to generate the part of the brain that causes fear. Stings from these creatures can cause “visual, auditory, olfactory, and tactile hallucinations.”
Hijacking, the form of torture and brainwashing the Capitol used against many—including Peeta Mellark—is described as:
“Tracker jacker venom can also be used to ‘hijack’ memories in a highly secretive form of torture. A memory is called up by some sort of stimulus, and tracker jacker venom is injected in small enough quantities that it causes little physical reaction and minimal hallucination, while still targeting the fear center of the brain.
The memory then becomes subconsciously associated with fear and pain, as well as being perceptibly warped. Afterwards, the brain rerecords the memory in the altered form.”
The books go more in depth on the effect this torture and brainwashing had on Peeta a bit more than the movies, such as;
“His memories of Katniss Everdeen were targeted and altered to the point that he would view her as a threat and try to kill her in self-defense. When he, Johanna Mason, and Annie Cresta were rescued and taken to District 13 for medical treatment, he strangled Katniss on sight until he was knocked out by Boggs.”
Doctors from District 13 are careful about selecting someone to go in to talk to Peeta and explain everything he missed in captivity—someone who knew him in childhood, but someone who wouldn’t remind him of Katniss and trigger him.
In the movies, it was Katniss’ little sister, Primrose. In the books, it was Delly Cartwright.
“Peeta was confused, asking where they were and why his family had not been in to see him. Delly was under instruction not to say anything about Katniss or the Capitol, so she tried to redirect the conversation to happy childhood memories, and she struggled to explain what had happened to District 12. Peeta became agitated as he realized there had been a fire. He blamed Katniss for it, yelling that she was a muttation created by the Capitol.”
In an attempt to “re-hijack” Peeta—“calling up memories under the calming influence of morphling in order to associate them with positive emotions”—they show him footage from one of the games he and Katniss were in, where K was telling Peeta the story of how she got Lady (the goat) for Prim.
According to Haymitch, Peeta was very confused by the footage, and “he lost the ability to speak for several hours. Went into some sort of stupor. When he came out, the only thing he asked about was the goat."
The next attempt was via showing Peeta footage of K singing The Hanging Tree, and Peeta “said he recognized the song. When Peeta was six or seven, Mr. Everdeen sang it once when he came to trade at the bakery.
Peeta recounted that was listening to see if the birds had stopped singing. This was the first time that recalling a connection to Katniss had not triggered Peeta.”
Eventually during the point in Peeta’s recovery where he was allowed to eat with the rest of the population of District 13–handcuffed and accompanied by guards— he “sat next to Johanna and was kind towards Annie, though he showed hostility towards Finnick Odair and Katniss.
After Katniss left the table with Gale Hawthorne, Delly lectured Peeta about how he'd treated Katniss, and according to Johanna, "he started arguing with himself like he was two people" before he was taken away by guards.”
In the section labeled ‘the Battle of the Capitol,’ it’s noted that:
“He and Katniss discussed the confusing state of their relationship, and Peeta expressed doubt in his ability to tell what was real. Finnick told Peeta that if he was unsure, he could ask, since that's what Annie did. Inspired by this, Jackson devised the game Real or Not Real the next morning, and Peeta played it with the rest of the squad in order to sort out his memories.”
The next day, there’s an attack that blows off one of the men’s legs, and the chaos and noise triggers an episode in Peeta that causes him to attack and attempt to kill Katniss again. Its description on the Wiki is:
“Mitchell tackled Peeta and attempted to pin him to the ground, but Peeta threw him off into a mislabeled pod, killing him. The other soldiers managed to restrain Peeta and evacuate the area. Jackson got his handcuffs back on him, but this agitated him further, so he had to be locked in a closet.
He kicked the door for a while before eventually passing out. The squad relocated again, and when Peeta came to, he was wrought with guilt over killing Mitchell. He even asked the squad to kill him.”
Similar to the way Killer even seems to use touch to tell what is and isn’t real, Peeta demanded that they keep the handcuffs on him because the pain of them digging into his wrists kept him grounded. He then demands they cuff him to something else.
After the Second Rebellion, its noted that: “He saw Dr. Aurelius for treatment in the Capitol before he was eventually allowed to return to District 12 in early spring. He still experienced traumatic flashbacks, but he was able to rekindle his relationship with Katniss.”
In essence, this all points to a prolonged dissociative identity disturbance/change in identity due to torture, captivity, brainwashing, thought reform, and drugging. Aka, OSDD-2.
#howlsasks#anon tag#osdd#osdd 2#osdd-2#osdd2#peeta mellark#cw torture#cw brainwashing#cw captivity#cw drugging#cw mind control#the hunger games#thg series#thg#thg peeta#peeta thg#hijacked peeta#cw dissociation#the hunger games peeta#the hunger games headcanon#thg headcanons#haymitch abernathy#primrose everdeen#katniss everdeen#katniss and peeta#the capitol#district 13#district 12#killer sans
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Alcohol 🤝 Antidepressants
#actually bpd#mental health#bpd thoughts#bpd vent#bpd#bpd stuff#depressing shit#dissociation#trauma#tw depressing stuff#tw illness#tw death#tw 3d vent#personal vent#vent post#vent#tw depressive#tw depressing thoughts#tw drugs#tw depression#i want to dissappear#actually borderline#actually mentally ill#actually dissociative#actually traumatized#im exhausted#mentally fucked#mentally exhausted#mental illness#mine
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The Syd Poll
the topic of this poll is one that is frequently avoided in the pink floyd fandom, but inevitably one we all consider – our individual views on what we think caused syd's psychological struggles (and by extension, led to his departure from the band). I think that – at least in this neighborhood of tumblr – this is a conversation we are capable of having in a way that is civil, nuanced, and at least minimally disrespectful to syd.
So, to help facilitate this, here are some ground rules:
let's all assume we have a mutual understanding of the complexities of this. syd could never actually be reduced down to a poll, and all of our viewpoints are limited in various ways
the poll options just serve as just a conversation starter, and responses are not necessarily a statement of absolute beliefs
feel free to discuss as much or as little of your own perspective as you feel comfortable sharing.
in the case that debates break out, please try to assume good intent – and also demonstrate it (unless, for instance, someone is being blatantly insulting beyond a misunderstanding that needs correcting)
please do NOT vote if you are not actually a pink floyd fan with at least basic knowledge about what we're talking about here.
The options I've included below are not meant to be exhaustive, they are simply the "theories" that I have seen most commonly circulated. I have also decided not to include combinations. I'm fairly sure we'd all agree multiple factors were involved. Rather than make the poll too complicated, I ask you to instead select the one that you think is the "most" important to your viewpoint, and clarify further in your tags/comments as you wish.
so. here we go.
READ BEFORE VOTING ^^^^
(note of correction: "late-onset schizophrenia" should just be "schizophrenia". the typical timeline for onset of symptoms is late adolescence/early adulthood, so syd would've been well within that period at the time)
#pink floyd#syd barrett#//#I will sacrifice myself and go first with way too much detail. hopefully it will help other people feel more comfortable talking#I chose consensual use of psychedelics. mainly bc I am fairly certain that he suffered from severe hppd#it stands for 'hallucinogen persisting perception disorder' –speaking crudely its 'did too much acid and got stuck like that'#I do NOT expect this kind of oversharing from anyone else but the reason I think that is because -I- definitely have that#its comparatively mild but I notice a lot of the same kind of impacts.#I'm more prone to dissociation and overstimulation. it takes more mental energy to communicate. my perception plays a bit fast and loose.#(again. it's not -that- bad. and NO pity for me this was a completely predictable outcome that I DO think is a little funny) but digressing#I can clearly see how if those symptoms were significantly escalated it would be just like what was described by ppl who knew syd#I think its very unkind to refer to him as a “drug casualty”#but I'm fairly confident anyone who's done acid would say by about hour 8 of the trip “okay. yah. too much of this could do that to someone#in other words –although I'm pretty sure syd was also neurodivergent– I do think its at least possible that the lsd couldve been enough#I'm happy to talk more about any of this in asks/dms if anyone wants. genuinely very cool with discussing it#but anyway. that's my take – obviously based entirely on anecdotal evidence tho so take that with as many grains of salt as you wish
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Augusnippets Day 18: Infection
cw: dissociation, implied aftermath of torture, vaguely implied past noncon, substance dependency, left for dead (implied), slight death wish, carewhumper
previous // next
for the @augusnippets challenge // word count: 410
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“Fuck. That's bad, isn't it?”
“I knew it would happen. I told you.”
“What are we supposed to do?”
“I don't fuckin know. Nothing?”
It (he) is curled up on the icy concrete, unable to stop shivering, too hot and too cold all at once. The pain in its leg is nearly background noise now, numb; the wounds scattered across its form are nothing but another layer, bland in comparison to the symphony of hurt that wraps around it like a blanket. Some things hurt worse than others, but it can hardly discern which is which at any given moment. Reality comes and goes. It only wants to escape.
The creature sleeps when they dose it, allowed peace between the bouts of anguish and spells of unconsciousness that are far from restful.
The spy dreams of Vic, heavy hands and unwanted touches, inability to get away
(stop, stop it please)
Sahota’s dreams are just as agonizing; stabbing pain, snakes making a nest in his guts.
Ander’s dreams…
(they could come for him)
They shouldn't.
The spy (creature) can understand what the guards are saying, but comprehension doesn't quite reach
(tired, hurts)
“What do you mean, nothing?”
“The boss said questions are a waste of time. He's had his fun. Why even bother keeping him alive?”
“Doesn't feel right just to leave him like that…”
“Yeah? Well anything else is work. We got shit to do. I don't have time to play nurse.”
“Fuck, shouldn't we at least clean it out?”
One of the guards drops to a crouch beside it
(the spy is too exhausted to try and pull away)
White hot pain surges through its body as the guards prod at a wound above its hip; the creature screams, nausea rising in its chest
(pulsing, reddened skin, festering)
“Fuck, that's disgusting.”
“You didn't have to touch it.”
“It's your fault it got this bad.”
(infected)
“Get off your high horse. I'm not stopping you from doing anything.”
The creature perks up at the sound of a water bottle opening, eyes fluttering open. It can't move towards the sound, can hardly move at all, only utter a creaking please.
The bottle is held to its lips, static crackling across its body at the prospect of escaping the way it feels.
“What are you doing now?”
It finishes the bottle, the easy mindless fog already nipping at its consciousness.
“Just giving him something to make the end a little less painful.”
#augusnippets day 18#infection#augusnippets#t$$ sahota#infected wound#feverish whumpee#carewhumper#noncon drugging#dissociation#left for dead
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Fitz only flirting with Beloved under the influence is further proof that she was meant to be a early 2000s bisexual rave girl
#she loves drugs. she loves dissociating. she loves doing bisexuality in the worst ways possible#rote
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// extreme medical abuse
Polyfragmented culture is wondering why you have fragments that only serve to act high despite having no history of OEA and then your mother who was drinking the #wellness koolaid admits she gave you naturally occurring drugs as an infant
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#polyfrag culture is#c did#cdd#cdid#complex dissociative disorder#did#dissociative identity disorder#polyfrag#polyfrag system#polyfragmented#polyfragmented did#drugs tw
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Plural culture is
"dog I literally just got high do not"
"yeah but I wanna smoke, fuck off"
Please ;-; stop ;-;
#endos dni#osdd#did#pdid#did system#osddid#pdid system#actually did#traumagenic#actually dissociative#plural culture is#syspunk#tw drug use#cw drug use#tw weed#cw weed#tw marijuana#cw marijuana#tw smoking#cw smoking#i am so tired please poor Tweek thought he talked to god last week because of this
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(source: Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #11)
While we're on the subject of Bruce and psychologists. I love how Alfred asked if he wanted this turned off earlier and Bruce was like "no it's a free analysis" meanwhile he's crunching glass over it and denying the analysis.
#to be fair to him though this is hugo strange#and about thirty issues from now another shrink is going to strap him to a bed and drug him until his muscles atrophy#so really it's no wonder that he'd rather yeet himself off a building than talk to anyone with a psych degree in gotham#bruce wayne#meta#comics#dissociative bats
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I’m literally at the point where I can’t get any higher than I already am
#bpd vent#actually bpd#bpd feels#bpd thoughts#bpd blog#bpd problems#bpd stuff#derealization#tw drugs#tw 3d vent#bpd struggles#my thoughts#tw depressing thoughts#vent post#actually autistic#actually dissociative#actually dying#going to kms#girls who smoke weed
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Okay but what if I believed in 'Angel-hasn't-actually-come-in-years' supremacy?? Huh???? What then???
I'll tell you what then. It means when he admits that to Husk, the cat makes a bet with Angel that he can change that
#huskerdust#angelhusk#angel dust#look okay he's a really REALLY good actor#its just second nature#but. as we know. husk sees right through that kinda bullshit#and it's not an easy task okay. between the drugs the desensitisation and the dissociation Husky boy's got some work to do#and i believe he'd be more than happy to do it#if this or anything like this already exists as a fic P L E A S E send it my way I Beg
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have any of u guys ever gotten way too high and experienced a psychotic episode.......
#THAT HAPPENED TO ME LAST NIGHT#IT WASNY EVEN ANYTHING HARD IT WAS JUST WEED#the spray. i had too many spritzes#i thought i was dying and being set up i was so paranoid and i was HALLUCINATING!!!!!!!!!#i do have a history of dissociation#drugs cw#talky cherub#NO MORE PILLS N POTIONS FOR A GOOD LONG WHILE#that was one of the scariest experiences of my life hands down
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Wait. Guys. Was "Fido" the archetypal pet dog name during the 19th and early 20th century because of fucking. Latin. Your dog is your loyal and trusted companion. Sorry I saw a postcard from that period with a cute caption referring to the lady's lapdog as "Fido" and am just out of it enough on Benadryl to Realize
#This is like the time I got high and then got so mad#Because I realized Notre Dame meant Our Lady#Whenever I do very mild dissociative drugs I have stupid epiphanies about etymology#That should have been self-evident and then get mad
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Peeta, the horse here.
Context.
Peeta, the tracker jacker venom is here.
#howlsasks#the-mad-rat1#osdd#osdd 2#osdd2#osdd-2#peeta mellark#thg series#thg#the hunger games#thg headcanons#the hunger games headcanon#hijacked peeta#killer sans#killer!sans#cw brainwashing#cw torture#cw dissociation#cw drugs
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