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I’m currently reading GG’s (Gentleman Ghost) comics that he appears in cuz I’m obsessed… but I have fallen in love with him and Shayera’s relationship (platonic or otherwise).
So here’s a mini comp of some of my favorite moments of theirs:
This was when they weren’t that friendly with each other, not sure if she can trust him yet
(source is from: Hawkman special #1)
Next up, they’re starting to get along! They’re on friendly terms but not quite friends yet. Craddock is a lot more friendly towards her than her husband.
(Source: DC Comics Presents issue #95)
A couple issues later, they’re officially friends, they trust each other! This part made me die from happiness, they’re literally so cute! 🥰
Slight bonus, it confirms Craddock cares for both of the Hawks which is adorable!
(Source: Hawkman vol 2, issue #6 & 10)
Shayera joins a portal that Craddock (who was basically forced to invite her in) was in without barely any hesitation…they officially share a bond!!!
(Source: Hawkman vol 2, #16)
In conclusion…
They’re besties, your honor!!! 🥰
#not sure how to tag this#but I’ll try anyway#gentleman ghost#james craddock#my stuff#I guess#it’s not technically mine but it is a post so I guess I can call it that#dc#dc comics#hawkman#Hawkgirl#hawkwoman#kartar hol#shayera hol#shayera thal#gentleman Jim#karter hol#carter hol#hello fellow gg fans#this is my 1st post of him I’ve made on tumblr#but um check out my yt if you’re interested#I made a bunch of GG edits on there#okay bye
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December 1990. As Tim Truman conceived it, the HAWKWORLD miniseries was not intended to obsolete previous Hawkman stories, but when DC decided to continue the story as an ongoing series, senior management insisted that it pick up in the present, effectively rebooting the modern Hawkman rather than just updating his origin. This Annual sought to paper over some of the resulting continuity problems while also addressing the similarities between the Golden Age and Silver Age Hawkman, something pre-Crisis stories had just shrugged off. Ostrander's solution was to establish that Katar Hol's father, Paran Katar, had been a Thanagarian scout on Earth decades earlier (under the name Perry Carter), had surreptitiously helped Carter Hall to develop his gravity-defying Nth Metal, and later took the concept of Hawkman and even Carter Hall's emblem back to Thanagar as inspiration for the Wingmen. Ostrander further explains that the Golden Age Hawkman had been a member of both the Justice Society and the Justice League:
(The "1953" reference in the second panel is an error; the events to which it refers (first recounted in "The Man Who Defeated the Justice Society!" in ADVENTURE COMICS #466) took place in 1951.)
In the text pages, editor Mike Gold explains candidly why all this was deemed necessary and the various options the creative team had for addressing it. This wasn't an ideal solution, and several points still remained unexplained (like the presence of Hawkman and Hawkwoman in JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL, which Ostrander tackled later). Beyond that, building a story around the need to rationalize a continuity issue is seldom very edifying, and the contrivances involved (including briefly sending Katar and Shayera back in time, where Katar meets his own father as a younger man) clash uneasily with the tone of the HAWKWORLD series. By far the best part of this Annual is the scene where Wally West meets Shayera Thal and so aggravates her that she immediately starts punching him in the face — not just once, but three times, until Katar reins her in — which has nothing to do with the continuity stuff.
From a story standpoint, I think retroactively removing Katar Hol from the original JLA is regrettable mainly insofar as his HAWKWORLD origin would have given new dimension to his clashes with Oliver Queen. Unlike the previous version of Katar, a knee-jerk reactionary who was ultimately fine with fascist dictatorship as long as it didn't personally inconvenience him, the Katar of HAWKWORLD is by Thanagarian standards a dangerous leftist, full of seditious ideas about social equity and civil rights. However, the most radical leftist on Thanagar is still somewhere to the right of Barry Goldwater, so Oliver would undoubtedly still be appalled by Katar's politics in ways Katar would find perplexing. That would have been a more fun dynamic than trying to shoehorn Carter Hall into the role of Oliver's neocon antagonist.
However, none of that was really on the table in 1989–1990. DC's later obsession with maintaining the sanctity of the pre-Crisis JLA hadn't yet materialized; at this point, the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League books were riding high, DC regarded the old JLA as a relic that had outlived its commercial usefulness, and the JSA had been discarded (ostensibly permanently) after the Crisis. So, the only thing this Hawkman retcon really needed to achieve was to rationalize why flashback scenes might occasionally picture Hawkman with the original JLA, and this explanation did accomplish that much.
#comics#hawkworld#john ostrander#tim truman#gary kwapisz#hawkman#katar hol#carter hol#hawkwoman#shayera thal#the flash#wally west#justice society of america#jsa#justice league of america#ironically the inclusion of superman and batman with the jla#became just as much of a sticking point#because of editorial infighting over whether or not#superman or batman had ever been in the original league#especially at the same time#it was much dumber than the hawkman issue#because there wasn't even a commercial reason for it#it was just an editorial pissing match
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Hawkmates by Rafael Albuquerque
#katar hol#shayera thal#dc comics#hawkman#hawkwoman#dc#rafael albuquerque#convergence#new 52#carter hall#shiera hall#shayera hol#comics
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DC Super-Heroes by Gene Gonzales.
#superman#batman#wonder woman#aquaman#Flash#martian manhunter#green arrow#black canary#zatanna#mari mccabe#green lantern#starfire#shazam#hawkgirl#hawkman#doctor fate#atom#blue beetle#adam strange#barry allen#jay garrick#hal jordan#john stewart#alan scott#ray palmer#ted kord#shayera hol#carter hall#clark kent#bruce wayne
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Katar VS Carter
Steve Lieber
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The Justice League of America and Justice Society of America circa 1981, by the late, great George Perez.
#Justice League of America#Justice Society of America#Superman (Kal-El)#Wonder Woman (Diana Prince)#Red Tornado#Batman#Elongated Man#Thunderbolt#Robin#Hourman#Wonder Woman (Diana Trevor)#Superman (Kal-L)#Martian Manhunter#Flash (Barry Allen)#Zatanna#Hawkman (Katar Hol)#Hawkwoman#Firestorm#Star-Spangled Kid#Atom (Al Pratt)#Hawkman (Carter Hall)#Huntress#Flash (Jay Garrick)#Doctor Fate#Atom (Ray Palmer)#Aquaman#Green Arrow#Black Canary#Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)#Snapper Carr
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Sorry to bother you, but what the fuck is going on with the hawks?
My grandpa from ST Roch used to tell me about them and how they were egyptian hawk people thing.
But then they appear and they are aliens???
Does this mean that the egyptian gods are aliens?
I'm genuinely confused and every time i search for more info i get more confusing stuff that say angels, the dark multiverse and some hawkgod are all involved?
But also Hawkgirl and Hawkwoman are different people????
I'm so very lost so i decided to ask the profesional.
I'm gonna get variations on this question a lot aren't I? Ok, let's rock.
The confusion comes from there being two sets of Hawks who are very similar in their general costume design and aura. They're probably the hardest to tell apart at a glance if you don't know what you're looking for.
(Fanart of the Golden Age Hawkman by TytortheBarbarian on Deviantart. Note the full face mask, lack of chest emblem and that his wings are attached to the straps of his harness)
(Photograph of the Modern Hawkman. Note the exposed lower half of the face, the black chest emblem and that his wings grow naturally from his upper back)
The original Hawkman and Hawkgirl of the Golden Age were archeologist Carter Hall and his partner Shiera Hall (Nee Sanders) who discovered upon the unearthing of a long forgotten tomb in the Valley of the Kings that they were the reincarnations of Pharaoh Khufu and his consort Chay-ara of the Egyptian Old Kingdom.
Finding relics formed of a strange alien metal within the tomb, the duo used these artifacts and the inspiration of the Egyptian god Horus to become Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Carter was a founding member of the Justice Society and both Hawks served with distinction in the wartime All Star Squadron.
Carter was present at the infamous HUAC trial that disbanded the JSA and the duo vanished for decades.
It was in those following decades that two more heroes would appear and step into the Hawks' boots.
Lawmen lost and many light years from their native Thanagar the two would take up the mantles of the Hawks, raptorial imagery considered sacred symbols of honor and duty on their native world. It just so happened that their alien technology and the motifs of the Golden Age Hawks were near identical which, after the two pairs met helped to uncover the shocking secret in their shared past.
The artifacts that had empowered the original Hawks, assumed to be magical were in fact also technology scavenged from a crashed Thanagarian ship by the ancient Egyptians. (No they didn't use it to built the pyramids. The already working technology and reforging the craft's Nth metal hull were the extend of the technology's use which allowed for the vast expansion and prosperity under Khufu's reign)
The second Hawkgirl changed her name, eventually stating she "did not like the implications of the word "girl" on this planet" and has ever since gone by Hawkwoman.
The original Hawkgirl lost her life during the Zero Hour crisis and has since been embodied in the new Hawkgirl, assumed to be a resident of St. Roch, Louisiana because it is around her appearance that the Hawks began to split their time between St. Roch and their traditional roost in Midway City.
So, in total, as of this moment. There are two Hawkmen, golden and modern ages. Hawkgirl is the younger partner of the original Hawkman and Hawkwoman is the partner of the second. The second pair of Hawks also have a sidekick named Golden Eagle. There is also a new Thanagarian on the scene calling himself Changeling who seems to be related to the second pair of Hawks somehow but no one yet knows exactly how.
As far as superhero families go they are nowhere near as expansive as the Flash or Batman's general cadre but they just look so similar that its very easy to be confused. To the point that they are all consistently misrepresented as one another whenever they show up in the media and it drives me UP A WALL.
#dc#dcu#dc comics#dc universe#superhero#comics#tw unreality#unreality#unreality blog#ask game#ask blog#asks open#please interact#worldbuilding#hawkman#hawkwoman#hawkgirl#carter hall#shiera hall#shiera sanders#kendra sanders#katar hol#shiera hol
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@dailyhawkmates hawkmates appreciation week day 1: favorite pairing
↳ katar/shayera + carter/kendra
3rd one heavily ib 616witch
#type: graphic#*mine#comicedit#dailyhawkmates#hawkmatesaw2024#type: edit#ch: carter hall#ch: kendra saunders#ch: katar hol#ch: shayera hol#hawkman#hawkwoman#hawkgirl#hawkmates#type: comic edit#haad.hawks
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Hawkman by Den Fernandez
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The Justice League and Justice Society by George Pérez
#justice league#superman#wonder woman#red tornado#batman#martian manhunter#j onn jonnz#zatanna#hawkman#hawkgirl#firestorm#aquaman#green arrow#black canary#green lantern#hal jordan#flash#atom#snapper carr#justice society#thunderbolt#robin#hourman#star spangled kid#al pratt#ray palmer#katar hol#carter hall#huntress#jay garrick
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This is just a little bit of a DC tierlist i decided to work on. I haven't read any of the Teen Titans yet (but I want to), so most of those characters were left off here. But I ranked some of the characters I felt I already had some definite opinions on. Namely, I was reading about batman comics for my reading list, and I learned Marv Wolfman made Batman get mad at Dick Grayson for flunking out of college. And then he had Talia drive a wedge between them. I didn't like that, so Talia is now near my bottom ranks. At least her father knows how to pick out nice, fancy clothing. What's she got going for her? Again, I'm biased. And I felt bad I had so many women near the bottom. But I promise that doesn't reflect me in any real way (i promise)!
#mostly this was based on the JLA comics i've read#plus the few flash comics and GL comics#but i threw in a few other characters too#dc#dc comics#tier list#tier lists#anti batman#anti talia al ghul#martian manhunter#j'onn j'onzz#red tornado#superman#clark kent#wonder woman#diana prince#hawkman#carter hall#katar hol#hawkwoman#hawkgirl#green lantern#hal jordan#dcu
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Tripping and falling into shipping WonderHawk as soon as you realize all the potential Immortal x Person-Who-Keeps-Getting-Reincarnated has.
#Wonderhawk#'yeah yeah Carter's there but I've seen how many times he's fucked up in previous incarnations'#diana of themyscira#shayera hol
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Did a redraw of a panel from Hawkman. I changed the perspective and it didn’t quite work.
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supper time over, old men. the Justice Society is needed Batman/Superman: World's Finest #31 by Mark Waid and Adrián Gutiérrez
#jay garrick#alan scott#ted grant#wednesday spoilers#dc comics#red tornado#justice society of america#justice society#dr fate#hawkman#katar hol#carter hall#dc#sandy hawkins#doctor mid nite#comics#JSA#world's finest#batman/superman#green lantern#the flash#wildcat
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Hawkman
Art by Paul Smith
Colors by Rich Seetoo
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At the Watchtower...
Diana: No no, your fic was well written. It's just...in my opinion, Bucky and Steve clearly belong together. Kyle: I've been getting that a lot, yeah. But Peggy! Sometimes people ignore the solid straight ship for any two random-- Diana: Peggy is wonderful, In many ways I am Peggy Carter. Hades, I'm even involved with a suspiciously similar Steve. Shayera: Oh, yikes. You know, now that you mention it-- Diana: My point is that I know a stronger love connection when I see it. I think Peggy should somehow get to end up with Natasha, honestly. Their chemistry in the "What-If" episode was wonderful. Booster: I think that'd be cute, yeah! Diana: See? A man of taste! Ted: I dunno if I'd call Booster a man of taste. Diana: ...Perhaps not. Booster: O-oh yeah? Okay well, Ted, you...you... Booster: Booster: If we're going to talk about tasting things-- Bruce, rushing to intercept: You know they're real, right? Diana: ...I'm sorry? Bruce: They're...They live in a different narrative reality. Mr. Terrific and this guy Reed Richards send trans-multiversal postcards sometimes. Place is a mess. Diana: ...No. No that can't-- Bruce: So this is technically real-person-fiction you're arguing about. Diana: Bruce: I just thought you should know. Bruce: Can we get back to talking about Corto Maltese now?
#dc comics#marvel comics#incorrect quotes#diana of themyscira#kyle rayner#ted kord#shayera hol#bruce wayne#stucky#peggy carter#booster gold#shut up cerata
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