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figuring this out a little more
also here’s ya man @lady-of-disdain :3c
#hashiart#not having to color OR clean up my lines saves me so much time omg#like this is game changing kjfdhsjfsg#sorry for the wait all my posts are basically queued so it goes to the end of the line skjfhskf#i draw too much in too little time and this is how i end up burning out for 3 years HAHA#but im having too much fun to stop now#so fuck it we ball#undertale au#killer sans#killer!sans#i guess also#mafia!killer sans#now thats a fucking tag lmaoo#two versions cause while black on brown is hard to see black on white also hurts my eyes so now you get to choose which one to look at : )#in other news my work recently got the same kind of chair hes sitting on and they are SO comfy#yall are in for a treat cuz nightmare is next again in the queue :)
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Lil engie and scout comic for today :]
I've never really made a comic before so it's definitely rough around the edges... But I actually had a lotta fun makin this so I count it as a win B)
Also bonus doodle: spy checking (in both senses of the term)
#team fortress 2#tf2#tf2 engineer#tf2 scout#tf2 pyro#tf2 fanart#tf2 spy#i had no idea what to do for the background in the third page zawg#sure i couldve just left it empty#but it looked so fucking bland in contrast to the other pages#so now we're stuck with this “BYE GOLD BYE” looking ass bg. so sorry in advance :(#never making a comic again#i lied. also im having wayy too much fun with these tags. ill stop now.#LIED AGAIN#ok im done
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Lucifer: Michael? What are you doing down here?
Michael: I heard you had a son with Diavolo and I thought it would be nice to see my nephew for the first time
Lucifer: Not your nephew, Michael
Michael: *Looks at Satan*
Satan: ?
Michael: *looks him up and down* hm, he’s not identical to Diavolo as they said he was
Michael: But I guess I can see a bit of Diavolo’s features in him
Satan: WHAT?!
#obey me#obey me shall we date#obey me nightbringer#obey me nb#obey me lucifer#obey me satan#obey me diavolo#obey me michael#dialuci#obey me dialuci#diavolo x lucifer#lucifer x diavolo#Diavolo and Lucifer’s son (Elijah) was born#Michael confused Satan with Elijah (or did he??)#Michael likes to joke around#Michael has joined the party#baby daddy dia#im having too much fun with this joke and now I can’t stop
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FIIIINALLY almost nailed my designs for lizzie and caspian can i get a HEEEELLL YEAAH???? i think these two make a vvery cute duo and i cannt wait to see them again. i also hope they both get hurt reaaaallly really badly. togeter
#OOOHH OH OOOHH IVE BBBEEEN REWATCHING THINGSSS ive been rewatching riptide weeee im never leaving here weeeee!!!#caspian and lizzie are SUUUUCH A CUTE COUPLE CAN I BE HONNESTT but in a princess and knight way. do you hear me.#caspian is such a 'lights her cigarette' kinda guy. hes such a dude that has made a vow to a very very special lady#he would float half of a boat w nothing but his water powers for eight days and he would do it all for her.I LOVE THEMM#IM SO HAPPY ABT LIZZIES REDESIGN BTW IM MAKIN A WHOLE DOODLY PAGE FOR HER N IM HAVING FUNNN YEAAAHHH#CASPIAN HAS ALSO BEN ENTIRELY RECYCLED IN MY MINDS EYE. they describe him as Wet sooo much. so i drew that and im happy abt it#caspian is sooo handsom in my brain thats why i draw him so rarely bc drawing pretty boys is HARD. but i DID IT.#when he first appeared i thought he was a triton too bc i didn talk to the fandom n i knew nothing abt dnd. so learning otherwise was funny#a residual effect o that mixup is me giving him ears thatre like the fins of a flying fish. he seems to light and carefree.#the lighter fins o a flying fish just fit so perfectly. also his white hair fades into mist in my mind#NOW FOR LIZZIE ART NOTES.A BLACK ROSE.sometimes a red rose.shes so roses to me!!gorgeous but coated in thorns. i wanted her hair to-#-resemble roses or smth like that. square swirls are also soo her. reevaluating her ref sheet was also fun bc WOW the triangles and birds#SO FUN!! shes so spikyy..her and caspian are such a good dynamic in everyway#personality wise and appearance wise and i wanted to capture that sortaaaa. in vibes. yknow.im veryhappy w getting their designs sorted out#ALSO I GAVE LIZZie tha jhonny da homicidal manac boots. bc i love that comic and i will never stop giving characters da boots.#also in other news ddoes anyone else still wonder abt destinys blade and how it used to be a golden lotus sword but then it also used to#be a person and caspian just had that sword for however da fuck long and then so willingly gave it to gillion after he lost his sword#llike did he know. did he know. also do you think caspian and lizzie have explored ea
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Milk theory? 👁️👁️
ANYTHING FOR YOU TWO!!!!
ok this is gonna be short and mildly insane. i would like everyone to understand that this is pretty much Entirely unfounded & i'm just reading too much into a teeny little thing. however i've convinced myself that this theory is viable against all better judgement
take these mad ramblings with a Monumental grain of salt. im not to be taken seriously ever
so it all boils down to This
Little
Motherfucker.
the milk carton behind Barnaby's house.
it was added with the last large update, and it Immediately made me lose my mind. it's such a... strange thing to add to the map, which already has Teeny Secrets - along with other choice objects that make me narrow my eyes. but this isn't about them.
The very first thing I thought of when I saw the milk carton was the phrase "no use crying over spilled milk". which, of course, essentially means that there's no point in crying over things you can't change / things already done. There are a couple ways i'm interpreting it with this context
Something is going to happen that Barnaby feels personally responsible for. or is responsible for - either indirectly, or maybe he'll do something terrible. i think it's entirely possible that he might do that possible something for Wally. and again, take this with salt, but Clown has implied through trivia and fun hypotheticals that Barnaby would go to lengths for Wally. and yes, i know. taking evidence from "what would the neighbors do in Among Us" is absurd. IN MY DEFENSE! while the trivia isn't really to be taken seriously, there's always a thought process behind character roles and dynamics and behavior, and that is something that can be (carefully) looked into and applied. like in Among Us, apparently Barnaby would, and i quote, "Barnaby does all the Dirty work if Wally is an Impostor- Anything to help his little Buddy out...". anything to help his little buddy out, huh? like, it's been stated that Barnaby knows things about Wally that no one else does. and it's been mildly implied that he's fairly protective of Wally. and we all know that Wally is getting into some deep shit, and whether he means to or not he's likely gonna fuck everything up for everyone. it's not that big of a leap to speculate that Barnaby might do something drastic/horrible/regret-worthy in Wally's name / for his sake.
2. something terrible is going to happen to Barnaby / directly related to Barnaby, and he's going to be absolutely powerless to do anything about it. though i think that's kind of a given... yeah this section is pretty self explanatory
3. Barnaby is going to go missing. because what used to be on milk cartons? Missing Posters! yes yes i know this one is even more of a reach, since milk cartons didnt have missing posters on them till the 80s, but yk. it's a Thought.
my second thought was "oh ok so when the carton spills, it's curtains for Barnaby." this part of the theory is just me being paranoid that Barnaby is going to wind up kicking the bucket - though i suppose if that were the case, there would be a bucket, not milk. well, if a bucket ever appears, i'm going to start prematurely mourning. Still!
the point is - at some point, that milk is probably gonna spill. it may be just a detail as things get better Worse, or it could be indicative of something terrible happening to / because of Barnaby. the milk spills, Panic Time.
Milk Theory.
#innocuous milk carton: *appears*#me: I Will Now Proceed To Lose My Absolute Shit. Thank You.#ITS AN OMEN TO ME PERSONALLY#im sorry i read too much into the map. OR MAYBE I READ INTO IT JUST ENOUGH! who's to say who's to say...#certainly not me!#its just. such a choice of prop#i mean it makes sense-ish on just a decoration level#milk is pretty common in relation to comedy methinks#but still. it stands out to me.#Im Aware That This Barely Makes Sense And Its Somewhat Ridiculous#Im Not Known for Having Good Or Even Coherent Theories#homebogging#wh speculation#welcome home speculation#alright well this was fun. nobody look at me#the day i stop overanalyzing the map is the day i die#THERE ARE ALREADY SECRETS IN THERE! THE MAP IS PROVING TO BE IMPORTANT!#IM ALLOWED TO READ INTO THINGS!#also riv i havent gotten the chance to sit and listen to it yet </3 Soon though! i Promise!
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A completely normal marriage portrait
#I LOVE THIS FIC SO FAR GUYS#BUT I MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT READING THE WORD COUNT#IM SIX CHAPTERS IN I CANT STOP NOW#SAVE ME#I am weary with contending#goodtimewithscar fanart#grian fanart#desert duo#scarian#hermitshipping#I’ll do something with mumbo for this fic i promise#I just had a vision and needed to draw what I thought their portrait would look like#the mumscarian is too strong#I have a larger vision for this specific drawing but we’ll see if it gets done#scar good times is a very smart man and would never marry an assassin#and his wife is absolutely human and definitely human and also is not planning to kill him#and genuinely no one knows what’s happening between him and her bodyguard#but it’s definitely something#i’m having so much fun#pigin is artistic
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sometimes i think about this txt cover of invitation and... that long haired guy is just choso with his hair down TO ME
#his name is beomgyu and his face is INSANE what the FUCK#also these beautiful kpop boys' voices go up SO HIGH wow good for them#the little rap part in the middle is so fun i love that#the og song is by a woman and they did not shy away from the feminine aspects when making this cover like... gender.....#this drawing is crack LOL sorry imagine if choso was a kpop boy idk i made him TOOO pretty ahahahaha#choso#choso kamo#my trophy husband#jjk#jjk fanart#one thing about me i will make all my faves unrecognizable oops#but also gege said in the character book that he based choso on a fashion model so i know my baby got a beautiful ass show stopping face#do i have to get into txt now omg im only casual about bts adding another boy group is too much i dont got time for that but also... hmmmm#alulu art
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Stars, I have seen them fall
Huge credit to @my-private-tsukuyomi and their Stardust AU for the inspiration for this! Open for better resolution
#i read the fic and this spawned in my brain so of course i had to make it#our beautiful vitya shining like he deserves#also apparently this piece is wack on some screens so if something looks odd shhhhhh screen settings#“but the proportions-” ssssshhhhhhh its the settingsssss the mistakes you see arent reallll#anyway uh yeah im back on my contrast bs so and i do not intend to ever not be on it#i had way too much fun making this to stop making pieces like this so hope yall enjoy#also yes hair so much hair because hair is the best and no one will every convince otherwise#theres nothing like shading hair#oh and obligatory tag#id like to thank viktor for canonically having long hair#dw lil i gotchu#well make it real#anyway im gonna post this now before i find another detail im mad at and edit it and resave it for a 70th time#be free my star#yuri on ice#yuri on ice fanart#fanart#art#arom antix art#arom antix#viktor nikiforov
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FOR A BEAT OF HEART, THE BREATH IS SHOT. AND WITHIN A BREATH, THE HEART IS CAUGHT. THE PIPES ARE BURSTING, UNDER GREAT STRESS, BOLTS TORN ASUNDER, MAKING A MESS. A FINAL COUGH, A FINAL RETCH, A GOREY SLOUGH, CLAIMED BY WRETCH.
#cw gore#jrwi riptide#jrwi riptide spoilers#chip jrwi#jrwi fanart#jrwi show#I LLOOOVE POETRYYY I LOVE MAKING WORDS RHYME IN STRANGE WAYS AND DESCRIBING VISCERA AND VIOLENCE OR WAHTEVER. YKNOW WHAT ELSE I LOVE#CHHHIIIIIIIBBOOOOO MY BEAUTIFUL MAAANN WWHAT. WHAT HAPPENED. OH MY GOD. IVE BEEN SAYING FOREVER. I NEEED CHIP TO GET SCARIER.#HE HAS THE POTENTIAL! I KNOW HE DOES! HAUNTED BOY WITH THE HAUNTED EYES WHAT TRAUMAS HAVE YOU SEEN? AND WERE THEY YOUR FAULT? THINK ABOUT I#EVERY FAMILY HAS CRUMBLED AROUND HIM. HIS BIRTH FAMILY CRUMBLED BEFORE HE KNEW IT. HIS SECOND FAMILY DROWNED. THIRD BURNED TO THE GROUND#AND SHALL THIS NEXT FAMILY JOIN THEM? CHIIIIP YOU UNFORTUNATE BOY YOU HAVE WITNESSED SO MUCH CALAMITY#YOU ARE CALAMITY BOYYY AHAHAHAHA DONT YOU SEEE!! ZOMBIFIED AND DEAD. TRUELY MORE HAUNTED THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS WILL BE FUN#THE FIRE HURTS WHEN IT BURNS TOO LONG. BUT NOW YOUR NERVES ARE DEAD AND YOUR MIND IS FREE. BURN THIS CORPSE AS YOU WISH TO GET WHAT YOU WAN#CHIP IS NOT THE FIRE HE IS THE MATCH. I LOVE THAT IDEA SO MUCH IM SO PROUD OF IT. OHHH AND CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE CORRUPTION#bizly mentioned that chip wants to be a good captain. in his most corrupted state however. he would be the BEST captain..#thAT DOESNT MEAn hes gonna just suddenly be all controlling. the BEST captain keeps his crew safe. keeps them together. keeps them alive.#and chip is doing just that! he doesnt need to stop being a good captain just bc of the corruption! he just needs to be the BEST CAPTAIN#AND THATS SUBJECTIVE BABY!! im so excited to see where chips zombie arc goes. neeeed him to get scarier and just a little more fucked up.#neEED HIM TO PERFORM ABHORANT ACTIONS THAT HAVE JAY N GILL GOING ' dude woah what the fuck...'#RIGHT I SHOULD TALK ABT MY ART TOO. this one took TOO LONGGGstarted out witha sketch how did it end up like this...#the heart and the blood KILLED ME. LOOK AT MY RENDERING LIKE HWAAATT#better not see any more mistakes after i post this.... i cant fight withit anymore....STILL RLY PROUD THO..#I WAnted to make it visually LOOK like the grossest vomiting sound possible#i want it to make your throat feel uncomfortable. am i achieving that? i hope i am. thats tubes dude!!! like cmahn!
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@chormine-mutacerta
buddy, help me, your designs.... they are such a chefs kiss.... I hope I did okay with an outfit for Nessa.
#art fight#you know what im actually also gonna say the tag#gift art#because i maybe put in more time bc i like certa and her designs and like ... yeah man#more effort mighta been given this time#anyway i love your designs and they are so fun and my hand is now cramping bc i had to rush because of a thunder scare#and then the thunder stopped before i finished but i mighta rushed a tiny bit on some coloring but i did try!#also i didnt think to ask about posting to tumblr but ive posted art ive done for your ocs before so im assuming#it is safe to do ? if not uhhhhhh i uhhh can delete and just not have art for today on the tumbles#but my hand hurts too much to draw anything else rn so im hoping its ok
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sometimes you have bad mental health days and then sometimes you decide to rewatch Voltron: Legendary Defenders
#I know it gets bad later down the line. I was there. I was in the trenches since season 2#but god I forgot how fun the first season is#I’m trying not to get too attached because I can’t go through the heartbreak of watching this show go downhill again#it’s kinda like the frog in the pot thing#Voltron#Vld#sophi rambles#also dw guys im doing much better now#Anyways Hunk is my favorite character he’s so funny and they do him so dirty all of the time#STOP REDUCING HIM TO A FAT JOKE. MY BOY IS ON HIS WAY TO GETTING A PHD#HES JUST AS COMPETENT AS EVERYONE ELSE#Growing up is relating less and less to lance and more and more to hunk#Anyways I have a whole idea for a rewrite if anyone cares#Also also hot take Keith isn’t even that emo he’s just autistic and everyone keeps misreading him
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fuck it sk8 sketches from da sketchbook. get sk8ed idiot
#sk8 the infinity#kyan reki#hasegawa langa#renga#sure whatever. tagging ship is probably easier than explaining what the fucks up with these two in my head#hi. I watched sk8 with my friend cosme a while ago. I actually dont care about the allegations that much I just got#blasted with teenage years flashback. and now I need reki to have everything on earth and be well#these have been around for like a week lol Ive just been debating posting them to tumblr. bc like. Im not finishing these lol#hesitant to call sk8 ''therapeutic'' but boy oh boy. does it make me confront some stuff. yes a sport anime leave me alone!!!#its just. I think I was this way about raz too actually. listen I have History with Stuff. I'm allowed ok? I'm totally allowed#u can See it in some of these doodles actually. this fuckign anime got me so unwell#hey. if ur a fellow adhd potentials-havers out there. ur a real one. thanks for still hangin out doin what u love/ur best#if u were an 'if u wanna do art u have to be excellent and high-art at it otherwise it means nothing' kid. I am holding ur hand#I'll be normal now I prommy (lying)#well. what I'll be doing now is taking a nap. maybe. gods my schedule backslid like four hours again#eh whatever. I go to bed anyway. got my portion of the day done and tomorrow I go buy new knife#hope someone come give me a new table top and lower the whole thing a bit soon. so I can stop sitting like Im in a shopping cart#have a good night lads. have fun. its imperative
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🫖🐭☁️🍚
#so i did meet my old friend from years ago yesterday. i was sooooo nervous omgggg. and i was waiting outside the café we agreed on#and then saw them walk in and i was like omgggg. the anxiety... but then i gathered courage and walked towards it and thry saw me thru the#window and came out and immediately hugged me. then they were like 'omg i've been so nervous. even more than before like a date!!'#so that made me relax a bit. i feel like i dont really fully estimate what i mean to them. maybe they care about me as well haha !!#then we just got our stuff and i chose a smoothie and was ready to pay but they just got it with their stuff (they work at this chain so#they got a discount). i feel so so bad & anxious when someone else pays for me. like i feel like a burden#but i asked twice if i should send them money for it and they were like no that's fine. so i had to tell myself to just shut up abt it 🥲#bc if u keep asking u make it into a thing and make them uncomfortable etc. so i really appreciated that and it was nice even if i felt bad#but yeah then we just sat down and talked. and it was so much easier to talk to them than i had been worried abt#like it flew nicely and yeah.. i feel like i forgot a lot abt them. like they're good at conversating. so they kept it going & even if i was#awkward it was fine for them. i did however get swept up in my own anxiety so as they asked me questions i answered#but then was too whirlwindy so i didnt really ask as much back and there were things i wanted to ask but didnt :')))#then they had cards and a card game with them. so we played for a bit too. and it was a lot of fun!!! (i was anxious and kinda slow lmao#bc when i dont know smth or the rules etc already my brain stops working so yeah.. even if it was simple games i was like um um what do i do#felt stupid but yeah again they didnt do anyhing to contribute to me feeling stupid but i still felt slow >.<#but i still thought that was so much fun. i wanna do more of that T-T like yeah...that was nice#then we took a lil longer walk to a bus stop before hastily said goodbye bc the busses came T-T#it was really really really nice tho. i have missed them a lot#and i didnt .. think we would ever see eachother again. i really didnt think this could happen#im so glad i somehow got brave enough to message them and im so so glad they wanted to see me too#i cant help but wish i could go back to when we were younger#and we spent every day in school together and messaged during the days and evenings and spent sm time together#when we went into the city like several times a week and took long walks. ahh... well. im glad we got to have those moments#& idk what will happen now. i really really want to see them again. even if we'll never be that close friends again i'd *wish* that we could#still be in touch. but im so bad at replying which doesnt go over great with them.. i'll try my best to reply quicker to them#*if* they message me. sadly i cant erase my avpd but i'll try my best to reply faster if and when they message)#they also complimented my sweater i was wearing (which is my fav sweater) !!!! and yeah.. they looked so cool. which they always have#and i kept thinking abt how nice their eye makeup was (i was too shy to compliment it tho bc im really bad at like 'nice' affectionate and#anything feeling related. like im so bad... so i couldnt say anything </3)#ugh it was just so nice to sit and talk with them. im so glad i went despite my fears. bc this was so good and nice :')))
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S1M* is now available, with digital and physical copies! This art magazine features 50 different artists (myself included!) and is chockers full of incredible art!!!
This is arguably the coolest project I've been involved with to date, and I'm so happy with how my piece turned out. Please consider grabbing the free copy to check out all the incredible artists, or consider purchasing a physical edition!
https://s1m.ufoshock.moe/
This is pretty different from the stuff I usually make, but I feel when it come's to art for arts sake, this is one of my strongest pieces to date. It was so nice to go back to my roots of fine art and make this, and I almost gave up and quit this project. I'm so happy I didn't, because this is one of my favourite things I've ever illustrated.
#art#illustration#anime#horror#body horror#UFOSHOCK#flesh#meat#fleshcore#meatcore#i dont know what im doing with these tags uhh#horror art#internet#y2k#I will probably disappoint you one day#my art#I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT TO SHOW OFF THE WHOLE THING IN A BIT#CAUSE FUCK#I POPPED OFF WHEN I MADE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#JUST LET ME HAVE THIS ONE SEC#I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY WITH HOW THIS CAME OUT#IVE NEVER DRAWN A PROPER ANIME GIRL IN MY LIFE AND LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#I'M TOO FUCKING POWERFULL NOW#I'M FUCKING UNSTOPPABLE#anywya the secret sauce is: just say to yourself#no mattter whast it takes I WILL draw the subject matter#and dont stop till it looks good#pulled up so many pics of vtubers as reference for this#it was so much fun!!!!!!!!!!!
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truly at the end of the day its all about receiving validation
#<- was having a lot of fun drawing fat william till he stopped to think about what other people might think#<- very important that people like him just as much as i do#<- incredibly important (i love him so much and his character is so much more nuanced than the fandom ever gives him credit for#and he already gets shat on way too often by people who don't understand what they're talking about)#truly the amount of hate based around him being a murderer is insane. Brother he's not a real life murderer. he's not going to#come out of the screen and hurt you#I NEED PEOPLE TO AT LEAST LIKE HIM A LITTLE BIT *bursts into tears*#and i need validation#and getting people to simp for him and think oh hes hot 😳 is one of the easier and more entertaining ways to get nice comments#what i lack in skill and talent i can make up for in character design and suggestive subtext right?#ugh#i dunno it feels like the only way to get people to say sometjing nice about my art sometimes#don't get me wrong i adore drawing him slutty but. ougggghhhhhh#hope it doesnt sound like im implying he's less attractive if hes fat personally i think hes hot as fuck#its mostly about stupid ass conventionally attractive shit#and also that people get bullied for portraying him fat... That too#anyways#im normal again now#toxi.txt
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alright!!!! kitchen CLEANED ‼️ carry on PACKED ‼️ now i just need to do my homework and then maybe take a really really really quick (4 hour long) nap before dinner/online class. then i will grind on the silly silly why did i decide to do this animation meme/animatic until 3 am hits and i've gotta hit the port. the AIRport :3
in exchange for my incredible unprecedented productiveness i made this little doodle just now. i'm actually a liar i did this in school but still
#honestly killer could be doing fuck knows and i wouldn't even know. still love him though#at this point???? at this point i dont even keep up with his characterization i will not lie#horror and dust are my favorite children im sorry killer. you'll get your time to shine when the seasons change#which is probably soon idk man whatever i love them all ewually :333#anyways killer's just not sleeping in that one. bro's had the longest streak of no sleep he aint breaking it now#erm ACTUALLY he's looking at the viewer and therefore breaking the fourth wall and thats soooooo cool#triglycercule what are you on#why are they all sleeping in the same bed#well obviously because they didn't wanna deal with multiple#but also they cannot be bothered to cuddle close together#dust kicks too much. horror steals too much space. killer sometimes just sits up for several periods of time#worlds craziest sleep#killer actually could be sleeping in that one but i just dont know#but triglycercule didnt you draw this and therefore should know what he's doing?????#idk man killer's an enigma i cant control him 💀💀💀 he does his own shit whatever#i lov making killer so crazily abnormal its so silly#who cares about canon (i do) ok well still im having FUN doodling#shut up and get back to rereading askdusttale and horrortale and something new#alright........ (pitifully limps away)#i tag some things rants when its actually art but i just dont want my art tsg 2 be littered with doodles#maybe thats bad. maybe i should start tagging properly#ok rant tag removed........ iGUESS this is art#euaghhhhhh but its just a DOODLS!!!! IT DOESNT DESERVE TO BE CONSIDERED GOOD ART WORTHY OF THE TAG#but triglycercule art is art no matter if doodle or not. stop belittling yourself for naught!#i hate when i get inspirational and supportive on myself man can i just suffer without some knowitall up my ass#i sound insane rn what am i doing. the bit is not funny#and i changed my mind this is a rant again not art#tricule rant#see it WOULD be both if i wanted to do dual tags. but i dont
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