#but i like to think if dipper did have it

[dark-lord-of-awesomeness]

Okay, so my favourite thing with your asks was the hypothetical of Dragon Ford stealing alternate Stanley's, so I've got to know. Does it stop there? Does Ford only steal alternate Stan's or do dragon instincts demand he just yoinks anyone important to that universe's Ford. A sort of, I can do better than my alternate self, watch me care for these people even better than he does! I don't know, I just love the idea of dragon Ford taking multiple people rather than just Stanley's.

Ford would only kidnap people he knew, as he has to have an emotional attachment for his dragon side to be interested. So he'd always be nabbing Stan, but if the other Ford has a Fiddleford he might snatch him too, if he thinks he could do better. He wouldn't snatch any Mabels or Dippers, as he doesn't know them at this point and thus doesn't care. If anyone told him they were his niece and nephew he'd roll his eyes and say they were the Alt! Fords niece and nephew, not his. This is his human side, getting in a victory over his dragon side.

He wouldn't be as protective of the other people. Like, in the case where he failed to find a Stan, but snagged a Fiddleford and the Ford came to rescue him, he'd be very half hearted about keeping the other Ford away like, 'oh no! you got me! Dang, thats just too bad,' much to everyone else's annoyance. Very much a 'why did you grab him if you didn't want him?' 'Well, other Ford wanted him, so i had to take him instead' mindset.

[starlovincowboy]

Gravity Falls but dipper has dyslexia and can barley read ford's handwriting.

Like I think it'd be so funny bc a lot of ppl like to say stan has dyslexia but what if dipper (the dork who likes to read) does and he's over here not only trying to decipher these fuckass codes but also ford's cursive handwriting and stressing tf out over it.

Especially in like dire situations when they're under like gnome attack or smth and he's like "WHAT DOES THIS EVEN SAY???"

I just think it'd be neat guys ok

Pls tell me u guys understand my vision

[kerink]

I hope it’s okay to just drop some thoughts I was having about Dipper and Stan for your au here! I was just thinking about them isolated in that little apartment and how I’m sure they weren’t provided with any like entertainment. I think it would be a really rough adjustment for dipper who would want to immediately be working on an escape plan. But I think Stan would probably be the best equipped of the family to handle the situation. He’s been to jail and eaten his way out of the trunk of a car. Like, he’d know how to plan escapes under a warden’s nose and keep himself somewhat entertained in the process. I think they’d argue at first but eventually dipper would realize that Stan is also trying to help them escape, he’s just going about it more subtly.

To pass the time maybe they play games that don’t need too many pieces for. Maybe dipper comes up with like an augmented D&D&MD that’s mostly verbal or maybe Stan gets his hands on some cards. They’d probably feel guilty if they start having too much fun though.

I know they are being watched but Bill is distracted by other things so maybe they can get away with a little more than the others, especially if they play up giving up. But it’s a real panopticon situation. They could come up with some kind of code that they can communicate through the games they play. Like playing a certain card means something or they use the plots of D&D&MD to talk about what’s going on in real life.

Thanks for letting me ramble and for making this au it’s so fun!

i seriously love this!

i was also thinking about what they could do for fun too, and was thinking about stan trying to teach dipper to box lol not just because it's something they can do and it fits in with stan and dipper's existing relationship arc, but also because it calls back to dipper's previous character development: him thinking he's useless without the journals, but once gideon kidnaps mabel he's like i don't need magic i can just beat your ass. so dipper already knows the value in having a good left hook, knowing he can be smart and strong, cunning and violent.

i love stan seeming like he's flippant, like he's given up, like he doesn't care about what's going on when it's really just a facade he's putting on to keep everyone calm and relaxed. he's trying to be the stable rock the kids and ford can cling to. stan believing there isn't much he can practically contribute in this situation, so settling for the emotional home base, the place where busy minds can rest.

but i hadn't even considered what you said about stan having been to jail before and how that would impact him. it's sooo incredible it has me feeling a bit crazy. because you're RIGHT. he knows what it's like to sit in a box and stare at a wall. he knows what it's like to play verbal chess with a mob boss. he knows what it's like to be two-faced with an unjust warden. as much as ford is teaching mabel to steel her heart and have a poker face and dance along with bills game, stan can teach dipper the exact same thing

[rystiel]

would things have been different if stan told ford? will things be different since mabel told dipper?

[sunburstsandmoonshadows]

ok so i was thinking of making handcrafted stan a statue if im including him in the curse/spell/dimension screw-up/WHATEVER and naturally my first thought was a stone statue

but what if

wax stan, but for real this time?

i can't tell if that's very funny or very stupid

[the-real-couchrat]

Messy doodles of @vallis-cineris---wanderer’s Wings AU

I also made some headcannons!

Dipper’s cat like behaviors would be more disturbing to the Wings AU’s humans that the TAU canons, because of their bird instincts. (idk though, I don’t know how deep the behaviors go in the wings AU

He still purrs, it just freaks people out more (I know that there are many bird species that make purring noises out of contentment, but I’m just going to ignore that so he can be extra special)

All humans have a row of small, hard structures for preening under their lips (in front of the teeth, but very easily hidden bc they’re higher up than where the lips rise)

MAYBE there would be common tools to make preening easier, kind of like a hairbrush. (This makes sense to me in a world building sense, but I don’t really want this to be the case bc it could take away from cute moments)

Dipper’s coat TAILs behave like a cats, despite any anatomical limits.

[triptychcryptid]

Sooo...rewatched Carpet Diem the other night. Mabel throws up after body switching with Dipper for the first time. As a woman in her 30's, my first thought was "...that bathroom hasn't been cleaned in 30 years. That toilet's going to be NASTY." 🤣

[first-ex-wife]

while I am a strong advocate for characters being allowed to just kinda suck just cause, I do also love when you learn something about a character that just explains why they suck. like everything sort of clicks into place and it's like,,, oh yeah, of course you'd Be Like That

[secretsoffish]

Alternatively love the concept of Stan going off and being an archeologist for like a decade in between his other canon stuff (so the pine twins still fight, get separated, and Stan pushes Ford into the portal etc etc). He impersonates an archeologist/professor and then just runs with it because its such a good profession for him. He gets banned from several states because he keeps stealing things from museums/government facilities to give back to the people (not for free though hes still Stan). He likes stealing and making money but he likes stealing from the government MORE.

By the time Gravity Falls happens he's like "retired" from the field because he's trying to get Ford back and run the Mystery Shack but then you can definitely still get the fun hijinks cbdhfdnsb. Somebody comes looking to ask him for help/threaten him to help and the kids keep investigating behind his back thinking he's part of some giant criminal scheme but actually hes just this badass archeologist that goes back to being his regular couch potato self at the end of the day... Before this he keeps making references to his time as an archeologist and everybody keeps being like "you stole that from an Indiana Jones movie" not knowing somebody stole Stans stories to make the movies (the timelines dont match up shshsh). Also even though the timelines don't completely match up he still gets to beat up nazis even though WW2 would have been over by the time he went looking for the ark of the covenant

[nico-the-overlord]

sometimes I think about just how many characters are saved from (horrific) death(s) through either,

A. plain ol´ plot (or sometimes main character) armor

B. the show´s rating and/or censorships

with B being so interesting. how the hell did what should´ve happen not just happen to you Character...death is optional in the eyes of corporate.

[the-unofficial-village-idiot]

I just keep thinking about the way ford purposely drove a wedge in dipper and mabel's friendship because he projected his and stan's issues onto them

[darishima]

oregon puppy iiinteresting.... rotating you in my mind... posting forcemasc on main hmm? I see you puppy I see what you're up to :3 anyways tell me what got you so into gravity falls all of a sudden did you just spontaneously remember Mabel's weirdgirl charm or what -🦴

LISTEN HEY NOW i dont even like it That much but i sawthe post in my feed on my Other Tumblr and liked the vibes liked the aesthetic so i stuck it here.. something something the beauty of transition and self-creation you get my point

AND ACTUALLY i have never watched gravity falls before. somehow i went my whole childhood never watching it and even when i got older and all my friends loved it i still didnt watch it. idek how i evaded the gravity falls obsession beam for so damn long but i started watching it this month with my best friend and UGH ITS SOOO GOOD... so i did not spontaneously remember mabel's weirdgirl charm i am experiencing it for the first time :3 im on season 2 episode 9 !!

[finnbin]

OMG WAIT BILL CAN SEE HIM

2 minutes later stanley learned how to possess people

[year2000electronics]

does anyone else have the headcanon that the level of control we see stan having over his mindscape (stan being able to talk to dipper in a memory, stan being able to make his memories into a giant labyrinth and seemingly able to perfectly hide most of the ford memories from everyone else) is, like, exclusive to him?

of course ford would know how to control and shape his own mindscape thanks to previous coaching from his Muse, but, like, stan has had to live a billion lives as fake identities. i headcanon that the mental discipline required to keep his story straight that many times allowed him to build a really thorough and hard-to-navigate mindscape, as well as suppress it all near-instantly in weirdmageddon 3 in order to trick bill

all this to say. i think if you went in soos or wendy’s mindscape and tried to do the same thing dipper did by talking to their memories, their memories would probably start screaming hysterically about being told they’re a memory and the gang would realize that stan is an outlier.

[ogeneraloito]

interesting how fords been surrounded by triangles his entire life. looks like ford and bill were always doomed to meet each other

ford did seem to think that he is destined to be in gravity falls, destined to be part of greater things, and bill also thought he was "destined for so much more"

to quote on alex, "that's ford's great flaw, is arrogance. is he believes that there's special people, and everyone else. that human attachments are actually weaknesses. and the song and dance that he’s giving dipper right now, is the song and dance that he gave mcgucket, back when they were younger… ‘you and me are different, we’re better than everyone else. we have a path that no one else can understand, and only us can do this.’"

i think at some point bill really thought ford was the one that UNDERSTOOD him (well, ford did think "why did rudolph not simply kill the other reindeer? he shouldve burned his workshop to the ground"). some of his henchmaniacs didnt seem to actually like bill at all

quick edit for something ive found:

this is from "dreamscaperers", and apparently ford had been dreaming about the cipher wheel for weeks before he even found the cave. enough times that he was even able to perfectly draw the wheel on the journal. bill didnt even know about ford yet.

[citricacidprince]

Could you draw that "I trust you" scene with Mabel and Stan but with the relativity AU? (The stan twins and pine twins swap ages au)

OF COURSE, I WILL GLADLY DRAW THEM!!! 💥💥💥

I’m gonna post a long winded thesis about my thoughts on this AU, my take on the AU, and two additional arts under the cut because ooooh boy it’s a tad bit long lol. Also, please please forgive the formatting, I’m writing this all on the fly and it’s extremely disjointed, sorry- 💥

I know there’s the ‘canon’ Relativity AU designs and character dynamics, however I don’t really like them that much ngl. I feel like it mostly just ends up with ‘Mabel and Dipper get switched with Stan and Ford with no nuances once so ever’ and that BLOWS!!! There’s so much potential there and no one is playing with it!! YOU GUYS DON’T EVEN HAVE MABEL PRETENDING TO BE DIPPER, WHATS THE POINT????

Not only that but I feel like making Dipper and Mabel’s dynamic just Ford and Stan’s when they’re adults is a HUGE simplification of their characters. Like, Mabel and Dipper fight, but they don’t fight like Stan and Ford, they’re not as hard headed and stubborn. Mabel would commit some crimes yes, but I don’t believe she would get into some of the heavy shit Stan had in his past. I refuse to believe Mr. Dipper ‘Undiagnosed Anxiety Disorder’ Pines would fall for Bill’s flattery as easily as Ford did.

The Pines Twins are very different from the Mystery Twins. Mabel and Dipper didn’t grow up with a father constantly comparing the two and pinning them against each other, outright telling one kid they’ll always be a failure while the other is going to have the burden of making their family rich. They never had that tension. They wouldn’t be walking on eggshells around eachother as adults.

I know that makes the concept sound boring to some, ‘Where’s the fun in the AU if you take away the sibling fighting’. You cowards, you can still have it, young Stan and Ford are RIGHT THERE. During the second half of the show when Dipper comes back through the portal, instead of having the older set of twins, something that doesn’t make sense with their characters, have a building tension that’s going to explode soon and keep it between Stan and Ford, don’t take it away from them. If anything, I think taking away the resentment and anger growing between the two and giving it to Mabel and Dipped is a butchering of all the characters.

Sure that means some of the episodes would have to change or be completely erased, but that’s fine!!! Make up some new ones!!! Get silly with it!!!

Mabel and Dipper talk about feelings, Stan and Ford don’t. Mabel and Dipper can’t stay mad at each other, Stan and Ford will try and stay mad for decades because being angry is easier than being upset.

In my idea of this AU that fight at the end of Weirdmageddon HAS to be between Stan and Ford, and Stan HAS to still be the one getting his memories erased.

💥 Post Not-What-He-Seems Relativity AU Rambling Below 💥

Dipper is a paranoid man, fool him once you’re never going to fool him again. He would never in a million years ever work with Bill again. Ford however is an extremely lonely child, both he and his brother are desperate for any type of positive attention. I think Bill would see him as a potential protege, especially since Ford is a ‘freak’ like he is and the kid is extremely smart for his age. He’s malleable, Bill probably thinks he could shape him uo to be the perfect lackey.

Ford, being the lonely kid he is, probably does fall for the praise initially. He craves attention and Bill pushes all the right buttons and says all the right words, tries and gains his trust even if time has proven again and again that he shouldn’t be trusting the demon.

The tension between the Stan Twins would grow after Grunkle Dipper comes back because Ford is upset that Stan didn’t listen to him (even if it was for the best that he did) and that Grunkle Dipper forgave Graunty Mabel so easily because if Ford was in those shoes he wouldn’t have. It grows more and more as Ford becomes distant and Stan tries to connect with his brother to no avail. Which, of course, comes to a boiling point when Ford says he’s going to stay in Gravity Falls and learn under Grunkle Dipper. Stan is rightfully upset. He can’t go back to New Jersey by himself. It’s always just been the two of them, he needed Ford, he couldn’t handle school or their father by himself. He can’t be alone.

Unlike Mabel who just wanted one more day of summer, Stan wishes that he wouldn’t be alone, which indirectly causes Weirdmaggendon.

Stan’s prison bubble would probably be a fake New Jersey-esc town full of a bunch of little Stans running around. Town O’ Stan. A place where no Stan is left behind.

The two don’t even get to have a heart to heart in the prison bubble. Stan was kinda forcibly taken out of the bubble and the tensions between the boys are higher than they’ve ever been.

During the Cipher Wheel fight Stan punches Ford and immediately feels bad when he sees he knocked out his brother’s tooth. He tries to apologize but Ford tackles him before he can, leading to the boys tussling on the floor. The two fight, whining out hurtful words neither of them mean and only stop when Bill shows up and captures them. Graunty Mabel and Grunkle Dipper run off and distract Cipher in hopes that they can keep the attention on themselves long enough that their great nephews could come up with a plan to escape.

The younger twins don’t find a way out and instead, finally, have an actual talk about their feelings, one that definitely ends up in tears as the two talk about the pressure that’s put on them or how worthless they feel. After that the boys get a rush of determination to escape when Stanley has a plan. Ford immediately hates the plan but Stan insists that they do it, in his own words, ‘Let me prove I can do something right for once.’

When Bill comes back and threatens to kill either Mabel or Dipper just for the hell of it, Ford calls out that he’d like to make a deal.

He wants to work with Bill, let Bill into his mind willingly. Bill immediately jumps on that offer. Ford is a promising young kid, perfect henchmaniac potential, not to mention it would absolutely devastate Dipper is his great nephew willingly turned to Bill’s side.

He goes into Ford’s head, revealing Stanley just in time to reveal that he was trapped, panicking as he was erased with a swift left-hook along with a kid who was happy to prove he was good for something after all.

Everyone was devastated after Weirdmaggedon of course, a child had his mind completely wiped. Stanford took it the worst, he just managed to finally break down those words that others built in his head, that he was too good for Stanley or that he didn’t need a knucklehead like him dumbing down his brain, and now his brother was gone. Just like that.

We all know what happens after this, Stan gets his memory back, everyone celebrates and the Stan twins are sent home, promising each other that they’ll never let anyone try and tear them apart ever again. Dipper and Mabel stay at the shack, after all, all they could ever want is there, where else could they possibly go?

Sorry this was… extremely rambly and long, I am extremely tired and can’t think straight I have a bunch more ideas and concepts so if anyone’s desperately wants to hear them just ask I guess, sorry you read this dumb of ass essay haha 💥