#boss monsters

[starisenby]

Gerson is a boss monster and here's why

As we know boss monsters age when their offspring does and if said offspring is dead they are stuck at the age they were when their offspring died

And we know Gerson is dead in Deltarune

And the surrounding graves are of characters who we know were dead in Undertale as well (which is interesting that more of the amalgamates aren't there which is either due to lack of space or it means they are alive in the Deltarune universe)

(Images from a post by @seased )

And we know that the amalgamates are dead

When monsters die they dust.

And we know Father Alvin is Gersons son

So why is Gerson dead in Deltarune where he has a son but not in Undertale where he doesn't? Because he's a boss monster that's why

[realjonahofficial]

Ruminations on boss monster SOUL power transfer and aging

So, uh. That one bit of Gerson dialogue. What did he mean by this???

Taken from Hushbugger's Undertale Dialogue Dump page on Github.

There are a few different headcanons/theories about how exactly this piece of lore should be interpreted – and, specifically, what its implications are regarding the children's growth rates in different scenarios. So, let's discuss it.

Personally, I'm REALLY not a big fan of the one that implies a boss monster whose parents die would be stuck as a child forever??? For instance, how would this theory of power transfer work with boss monster families that have 3+ children? Because like. Some couples having at least 3 children would be the only way for the population to to ever grow in size (unless we also headcanon that new boss monsters just spontaneously appear sometimes or something, which has absolutely no basis in canon lore). And by that logic, generations of this happening would eventually yield boss monsters who stop aging stupidly young. Not to mention, what about boss monster kids like Asriel, with no biological siblings? Would them getting both of their parents' SOUL power mean they go through super-puberty that turns them into double-mature adults??? So, yeah, not only would this all have pretty horrific implications regarding boss monster dating, but it'd also just be... really cursed worldbuilding that falls apart when you give it in any amount of serious thought. That's why I think it's a lot more likely that SOUL power transfer is simply that: a transfer of power.

I think Gerson's word choice is key here: "causing the child to grow" – rather than "mature", "age", or " develop" – "as the parents age" – as in, "into old age", becoming physically weaker due to giving up SOUL power.

I believe it's FAR more likely that, if a boss monster was orphaned, their growth would be stunted and their power would never reach its full potential – something more akin to malnutrition, rather than them literally being frozen in time; this would also happen, but to a lesser extent, to a boss monster who has to share their parents' SOUL power with more than one other sibling – and, inversely, a boss monster who's an only child would inherit both of their parents' power, growing far stronger than either of them separately by the time they become an adult.

This would also explain Asgore's absurdly high stats compared to Toriel's – like. ok. he has 8 times her total HP??? If we are to assume Asgore started out with similar stats to Toriel, plugging the numbers into the LV-based HP calculation formula the game uses for Frisk – 3/4 base HP + (1/4 base HP * LV) – gives us this equation: 330 + 110*LV = 3500. Solving for Asgore's hypothetical LV, then, gives us LV of roughly 29. Which might not sound that bad... until you realize the EXP required for getting to LV 19 is more than than all of the EXP it takes to get to LV 18 combined. Even assuming the EXP you get from killing just one human is equivalent to killing every monster in the Underground, while also assuming that the amount of EXP you need to level up no longer increases after you've reached LV 20 for some reason... it still wouldn't be enough to explain Asgore's dummy thicc HP bar after killing only 6 humans, if we are to assume his base HP is at all similar to that of Toriel. (Accounting for the possibility that monster history books lied, or at the very least didn't tell the full truth when stating that "not a single human SOUL was taken" during the war just leaves us with another problem: Toriel's also a veteran, and in fact seems a lot more comfortable with the idea of actively going to war as opposed to Asgore's approach of stalling for as long as possible, so if monsters actually were getting insane amounts of EXP by killing humans during the war, how come her stats are still so low? Killing even just a few humans would beef her up quite a bit; again, it's only once the numbers get higher that you see the sharp increase in EXP required to level up.)

I think Asgore was born into royalty, and Toriel married into it. Again: if a pair of boss monsters had only one child, that child would have the combined power of their 2 parents – now, let's suppose a family decided to do that for many generations.... with each new kid in such a family, the base power of the resulting offspring would grow more and more and more, wouldn't it? Perhaps one such family also has the means and prestige that allows them to easily find suitably strong partners for their kids, further increasing the rate at which the family's power would grow. (Also, the idea of Toriel originally being a commoner is further reinforced by the fact that the surname "Dreemurr" is confirmed to come from Asgore's side and, at least as far as we know, Toriel just... doesn't have her her own surname, as she switches to just going by "Toriel" after the two break up. Given that we only have about 3 examples of surnames within the Entirety Of The Underground, it appears that family names just aren't really a thing used within monster society, unless said family is really notable in some way).

...I may or may not be overthinking boss monster biology.

[kyuspectrum]

Who else could save and load?

I was thinking, the most determined being in the underground get the ability to Save/Load/Reset, Right? Then there logically would of been someone besides the humans and Flowey who could Save/Load/Reset.

This would take place before Chara fell and between Chara and Asriels death and Flowey's birth.

Now this is assuming monsters have Determination which I believe they do considering it's latterly the will to live. even assuming most monsters don't, Boss Monsters at least have some determination as there souls can (briefly) survive after death, which is a trait associated with Determination.

Now there is a problem which could pop up with this theory. as there may be some minimum requirement of Determination before Saving/Loading, looking over over the wiki it doesn't look like this is the case but I didn't look very far.

But anyways, the most important question is who could could it be/have been, sense Flowey was created by Alphys there's a high chance at least one (if there are multilabel) of our time travelers are still alive. this begs the question if there someone we know, which depends on what causes Flowey to remember between Saves/Loads/Resets.

If it's some critical mass of Determination then it could be anyone (Well, probably not, thinking about it), If however relies on Flowey having Saved/Loaded/Reset before then it couldn't be a character we know unless their really good at acting.

As for who it might be (assuming it's a character we know/have heard of), I don't know, although make another post if I have an Idea.

[enemywasp]

"Oh her design is so cute! I'd really like her if she wasn't such a freak!" FOOLS. COWARDS. I LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE'S A FREAK.

That's a selfshiping, cringe, fanfic writing monster fucker right there. The representation we deserve.

[askfordoodles]

I just noticed when Ozzie appears behind Fizz, the initial explosion shows his sigil for exactly ONE frame (replacing Mammon's sigil we've seen plastered throughout the episode). I just thought it was a neat little detail, Asmodeus essentially summoned himself in that moment.

[thewizardofschnoz]

Evolution of Tim's work attire

[ckret2]

Oh yeah?? Could a child do THIS??? *represses his grief and pretends everybody's okay for the next trillion years*

[obliviasart]

VividShadows 2024 Day 23 - Underworld

"Every Underden has their gimmicks so of course I rolled my eyes when I heard about 'The Necropolis'. I wasn't prepared for it to be so literal."

Definitely late on this one but I liked this idea and wanted to be a little extra so oh well!

[nartothelar]

monster au where emmet is a zombie and ingo is a vampire!

- in this universe the existence of monsters is completely normal and mundane

- ingo and emmet were both human originally but turned into monsters later on

[2-dsimp]

Would Temothy like it if his darling dressed up in one of those sexy cow print undies? Complete with horns and a tail and thigh highs of course x3

『Featuring your Yandere Assistant paying your office a nightly visit』

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Cw: MDNI 🔞Fem!reader, Temothy going feral, mentions of breeding, impregnation, very suggestive

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It all started with you wanting to reward your devoted lover and Assistant. For always giving his all in producing the best results for the company. But it soon ended with you fearing for your capability to walk. Since the Bull hybrid who was trying his hardest to persuade you to let him inside you Your office.

Temothy can hardly stand it any longer - the bull’s desire for his darling boss wearing sexy cow print lingerie. Alongside the signature cow ear headband and cowbell that was dangling from the cute choker around their neck. Sent his head spinning and his balls itching to be emptied out in that sweet womb of yours.

Temothy: “My dear please open the door! I promise I won’t fuck you till my balls are empty—shit! That slipped out. Sorry, what I meant was…”

Your Assistant was trying and failing to convince you to open the door after nearly going feral. In trying to quite literally snatch you up and fuck you senseless on sight. Right then and there on top of your pristine desk. After catching a glimpse of your provocative choice in attire. By chance of walking in on you changing within the safety of your office after closing hours.

Y/n: “Tem I heard that! I’m sorry but I can’t open the door and risk having my office in complete shambles cuz of you”

Temothy nearly growled at your soft rejection as he had the insatiable urge to bully his heavy cock. That was leaking copious amounts of pre within his slacks within your velvety walls. The more you kept him away from your delectable form. The more his shaft was hardening in anticipation and need. To sink his meat deep inside your walls and knock you up with his calves. Despite his best attempts at trying to contain himself by gnawing on his bovine tail. But Your Assistant couldn’t conceal how much he looked like a bull that’s about to go rogue from seeing the color red.

The bull hybrid was quite literally hanging on his last thread of common sense before he crashes out. And turns into a polar opposite of himself that was a savage beast. Who wants nothing more than to satiate his needs than that of his sweet little cowgirl. So by total accident he broke the door off its hinges and glowered down at you with wide eyes. A big hungry expression on his face as he completely lost his mind. With you being the sole one to blame for his loss of composure.

[mangomagicaart]

Traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans

[epiclad]

The Twin Moon Knight

[chipper-smol]

HEY WHO WANTS ANOTHER CHARACTER VENN DIAGRAM

NO ONE?

TOO BAD

I MADE ANOTHER ONE AND ITS

SO SANE

[theblindgoddess]

Epic the Musical AU

An au that begins after Aphrodite wins the golden apple and she shows Paris what is basically a magic video recording of Helen, telling him about his future bride.

However, in this magic video recording Helen is spending time with Penelope, and Paris goes "forget that Helen chick, I want that one."

And Aphrodite just goes with it, so instead of kidnapping Helen, Paris and Aphrodite kidnap Penelope, and a baby Telemachus to help them better control Penelope.

Odysseus is rightfully murderous, and even if he doesn't have the benefit of a treaty to get all of the Greeks on his side, he is still able to strong arm and lie his way into getting that massive army to besiege Troy and get his wife back.

And over in Troy Penelope is making the situation as insufferable for Paris as she possibly can, she will cause all of the problems until she can get back home safely with her son.

This au would be called Penelope of Troy.

[exhelluvafan]

My reaction seeing how a fandom is not ironically threatening of child abuse to a 17 year old girl that only wanted attention from her neglectful father, while the same fandom keeps defending the neglectful father and say that the child should be grateful for the bare minimum.

(seeing all this while I myself also had experienced the same thing in my own life.)

[obsessivevoidkitten]

Another little drabble, hope you guys like it.

Male Vampire Yandere x GN Reader

(CW: Noncon, vampire, mob, kidnapped reader, blood drinking, biting)

You were the star detective in a major city.

But you went after the mafia and learned too much.

They were actually vampires.

And instead of just killing you, the mafia boss decided to keep you as his sex toy and occasional juice box.

You tried to escape, but it was a rather pitiful attempt.

Even if you had managed to get far he would have just sniffed you out.

But you didn’t even make it out the front door of the headquarters.

And now you were being dragged into some random closet by the fiend that had caught you, the boss himself.

“Now where do you think you were heading off to? You’re my favorite late night snack!”

You felt like ice was stabbing your soul when he bit into your neck and sucked enough blood to make you dizzy, weakening you significantly.

Were it not for his strong hands and supernatural strength you would have collapsed.

But he wasn’t done with you.

He wanted more than just blood tonight. After such an escape attempt he had to punish you further.

You were far too shaky to fight him off as he bent you over and slid his cock in you, cold hands gripping your hips as he plowed into you brutally.

Tears streamed down your face as you wished it was all just some perverse nightmare.

But deep down you knew the truth. This was your life now.