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not me going and hunting down Teen Titans Vol 3 #29 to skim through it just to briefly reference it in a tickle fanfic kjsdfhkjdhf
#august rambles#but also like Damn fandom really loves to play up 'jason tried to kill tim he hated him he wanted him dead oh my gooooodddddd' angle#and dont get me wrong i eat up the angst fics that come out of that i do enjoy the whumpification of it all lol#but also. dskjfhdkjsfh it is. not that bad. esp in the grand scheme of heroism#jason is just crashing out a little and so he beats up tim and tim does get in a few good hits back#but this is really just a vent sesh for jason dkjh he just wants to complain about not feeling as though he was remembered#and also wants to see why (at least to him; i dont have further context with the canon events) everyone thinks tim is so much#better of a robin than jason was#there was NO intention of *killing* Tim or anything; fanfic unsurprisingly led me very astray lol. which i expected tbh#jason is just having a little tantrum. he doesnt even beat tim up ALL that bad imo#aside from knocking him out at the end having to be a pretty hard hit lol#i dont think tim even got a single bone broken he just maybe has a little concussion and probs a goose egg. and a bloody nose n lip and suc#that boy is gonna be fine in like a week he's just a little bruised up dskjfhsdkjf#anyways yeah i am trying to start working on the prompts again in between all the real life stuff going on rn#but things are slow going because real life stuff is a Lot atm lol
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During an argument
Jason: Oh yeah? Well, atleast I'm not a cop!
Dick: Atleast I'm not a priest in another universe!
Jason: Atleast I'm not a vampire king in another!
Tim: Atleast none of you is Evil Gun Batman!
Jason and Dick:
Tim: So, Shut Up.
#Dick: Argument cancelled we're talking about this first#Jason:Still better than a cop#dick grayson#batfam#jason todd#tim drake#batman#nightwing#red hood#red robin#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect batfam#incorrect batman quotes#incorrect quotes#batfamily
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i see this jason todd who actually looks his very young age (instead of the 30yr old man that comics like to portray)
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and feel my heart breaking just imagining bruce beating him up, almost killing him, mind-breaking him, and just overall being a total piece of shit father towards him.
a huge chunk of the reason why people don't view bruce's actions towards jason as abusive or wrong is because jason doesn't look his age. he's drawn to be this 35yr old father of three who looks even older than dick (and way too on par with bruce) that people see their fights as one between batman and any of his regular rogues. when they fight, it just looks like batman is fighting a man his age and not an actual young person. it doesn't look like batman is fighting his son who's barely even drinking age (and who def wasn't drinking age in utrh). their fights are portrayed in a way that eliminates the very real power struggle between them.
this applies to jason's entire character as well. a lot of people don't sympathize with how he died or his actions as robin or his fights with the other bats because he doesn't look his age. he always looks older and scarier than everyone else. tim has many sympathizers from the titans tower incident because jason just looked like a grown man fighting a 12yr old (even tho i disagree, tim was built and like 17 lmfao).
anyways, i just wish comics would actually draw jason to look his age, which literally ranges from 19 to early twenties. he's young- so young, and it's so annoying to see him drawn and written as someone older than even bruce.
#the way everyone in jason's robin run saw him as this adult despite him being 12-15#like what the fuck#just because a child has experienced more than the average adult doesn't make him any less of a child#it's like the typical groomer thought process#if jason was shown younger in arkham knigjt for example there'd be less people calling him whiny#they showed 15yr old jason's torture scenes like he was a 25 yr old#he should've been shown as the small child he was#it would've put more perspective into how cruel and fucked it was of the rogues to torture a literal child#and then bruce almost killing him in rhato...#now imagine if jason looked his age there#honestly this all just feeds into the idea that jason feels too small for his big body#imagine being this tiny kid growing up and then dying and coming back to life as this tank#arghhhhh!!!!!#jason todd#red hood#batman#jason peter todd#bruce wayne#jason todd deserves better
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ENOUGH ABOUT BATMAN 148 ‼️‼️ LETS GET HYPE FOR THE BOY WONDER ISSUE #2 ‼️‼️
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#it doesn’t get better than this boys#actually my favorite comic run in a while i love the art style#dc comics#dc#batman#tuesday spoilers#the boy wonder#robin#damian wayne#red hood#jason todd
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Being a batfam fan is funny because people will make a post like “here’s my headcanon-“ and it’s just something that’s directly canon to the story then post about major canon events and get everything wrong.
#this post was inspired by me remembering the experience of reading death in the family#after only knowing the fanbase version and realizing oh none of that shit happened okay#like girl you don’t understand it’s so bad#Jason wasn’t even fired as Robin#He’s not accused of murdering anyone by Bruce#He’s not trying to prove himself at all he’s just looking for his mom#The reason Bruce didn’t go after him right away is because he was tracking down a goddamn nuke the Joker stole#Then after he finds it and handles the problem he helps Jason track down moms 2 and 3#Also Jason died in like 20 minutes?? even less??#He died in less time than it took his mother to smoke a cigarette#Bruce literally went ‘wait here I’ll be right back’ and was gone for less time than a trip to the grocery store#and then you go into the Jason Todd tag and they act like Bruce pulled the damn trigger on him#Like besties I don’t know how to tell you this he basically did everything right he possibly could have#Even him benching Jason from Robin temporarily happens so that he can get Jason into therapy about his trauma#Like the whole point is that neither of them did anything wrong bad shit just sometimes happens#That’s the tragedy. The drama.#Bruce couldn’t have made better choices in the position he was in and Jason was never going to make different ones#It was inevitable#Anyway rant over please read death in the family before I lose my mind#batfam#batman#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#damian wayne#bruce wayne
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Prompt:
Jason keeps accidentally drawing parallels between his running away to Ethiopia and getting killed.
He leaves a note saying he‘ll be back soon? Three terrified bats AND a supe crashing through the roof of a 7/11.
Casually mentioning he‘ll be going overseas to check up on a lead? Surprise! Nightwing‘s going the same way! What a coincidence!
Jason pushes someone off the roof? “Don’t worry Jaylad, I know it was an accident!!!!”
The next gig takes place at an abandoned warehouse? “Explosives whomst?? No, Jason, of course I didn’t scout the area beforehand. Don’t be absurd. Your bombs?? Oh, those were yours?”
Look, it’s not that Jason doesn’t appreciate a demonstration of how much they care. But he’s getting seriously fed up with the level of overprotectiveness everyone’s displaying.
Although, in retrospect, he could have handled this whole thing better than having an open spat with Bruce and then disappearing on them for two months straight. Oops.
(In his defense, Kori got them cards for a once-in-life-time-space-opera.)
#prompt#still stuck in the hospital and I need something to giggle at rn#and what’s better for it than some batfam crack#Jason did not think that last one through#that stunt was not worth Bruce having a genuine and full blown meltdown#also can someone please explain why everyone’s got contingency plans for Nightwing on display?#what do you mean you haven’t slept for a week Tim?#WGAT DO YOU MEAN YOUR’RE LEGALLY A ROGUE NOW!?#Kori I need you to extend our space trip-#Kori: hell no you’re on your own bye#Kori: Roy get Biz and then we’re outta here#Kori: we’ll check back next year if earth still exists#Alfred: … I take it I can store the guns back in their appropriate places?#Jason: ????????????????#jason todd#batfamily#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batfam#robin#tim drake#red hood#unhinged family#protective#I snuck a teeny tiny amount of implied superbat in here#because Clark has adopted all the bat children sorry I don’t make the rules
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Honestly, I do love Dick as Nightwing and Bruce and Dick's complicated relationship, but sometimes I like the old days when things were sweet and simple you know? When it was just them and Alfred and they all had fun with each other. Like when they blew off boring parties to go on patrol by using Dick's bedtime as an excuse. When Bruce let Dick go off on his own and said he was allowed "a little escapade" and ruffled his hair. When Alfred always brought coffee and "turkey sandwiches with Swiss cheese" to the Batcave while Dick and Bruce happily talked about their nightlife escapades. When Dick would make Bruce laugh regularly.
When they discussed Hamlet while riding in the Batmobile. When Alfred picked Dick up from school and dropped him off on dates and helped him go behind Bruce's back on cases. When Dick and Bruce would play fight with each other. When Dick made Batman's meetings with Gordon "more optimistic." When Bruce was being a helicopter parent and wanting to know why Dick would want to go to a public school. When Dick would sneak off with Clark when Bruce wanted him to stay back to finish his homework, and Clark did it for him before Bruce noticed. When Bruce teased Dick about his failed date, and they talked about it and their love lives. When Bruce apparently told stories about Joker to Dick during rides in the Batmobile. When Dick was actually the one who named the aforementioned Batmobile. When they would banter even in between a serious case. When Dick would cling onto Bruce to annoy him. When Dick was contemplating how alone he felt, and Bruce just showed up to catch him and do a routine on the trapeze with him. When Bruce would call Dick "kiddo." When Dick even called him stuff like "Bruce-ter." When Bruce used to call Dick "chum." I miss those days.
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Yeah a lot of these are from Robin: Year One but that's just because it's the one I remember most. But there's a lot of them just having a good time and it doesn't feel like we see a lot of that anymore.
#DC#DC Comics#Dick Grayson#Bruce Wayne#Alfred Pennyworth#Richard Grayson#Nightwing#Robin#Robin I#Batman#Jim Gordon#Clark Kent#Superman#My meta#Don't get me wrong I love how their relationship is complicated and I love how they've both grown with it#I love how Dick has become an independent hero in his own right. Dare I say better than Batman#I love Jason and Tim and Steph and Damian as Robins. I don't have any complaints about how things developed#But those early days... sometimes I go back to read those and it's such fun and brings me so much joy#Because one of the most important things about their relationship is their sincere and genuine connection#And how knowing the other made them happier#I feel that this aspect gets lost in some of the modern comics
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To be or not to be (a blackmailer) part 2
After the incident with Damian, word spread throughout the Wayne family, and now everyone was fighting over who would get to meet the newest member of the family (aside from Alfred, who was simply too dignified for something like that, and Bruce, who knew that Danny was coming over next weekend to visit the foster kittens.)
Jason was the next to interact with Danny, and contrary to what anyone says, it was purely by accident that he managed to bump into the kid.
Danny was chasing after a ghost who had stolen his newest invention for a Wayne Industries competition. He was hoping to use the invention to gain an internship in the engineering department and finally get out of the fast food industry. The ghost was a child and seemed to grab anything shiny or even remotely interesting.
He'd chased the kid all the way to a warehouse in Crime Alley where the kid lost steam and gave up the chase. Danny grabs the device, rips open a bright green portal, and shoves the kid through before quickly closing it again.
He's not in a hurry to head home, and he kinda needs to stop at the store anyway for a few ingredients before Tim comes by for dinner, so he transforms out of ghost form after making sure no one is around. He doesn't really come to Crime Alley often, so he wasn't expecting the mugging he was being subjected to by some creep with a pocketknife. He wasn't surprised (it's Crime Alley after all) but he'd been going over his grocery list in his head.
He was debating whether to completely ignore the guy or to punch the guy in the face when Red Hood came out of nowhere and smacked him around before turning to Danny and making sure he was ok.
Danny, of course, has to say something snarky while at the same time reassuring the hero that he was, in fact, just dandy.
Jason didn't rush all the way over here for nothing and racked his brain for any ideas that would let him hang with Danny. He didn't have to, though, because Danny stared at him with starry eyes and enthusiastically asked for an autograph AND a picture in one breathless sentence. Mentally punching the air he brings out his own phone and they both get pictures of the duo.
Jason only wanted the photo to rub it in everyone's face while Danny wanted a keepsake of his favorite Gotham hero. No matter what Tim said, Red Robin was Not the best and that was something they'd just have to agree to disagree on even if Tim did grumble about it every time it was brought up.
Red Hood drove Danny to the store and even waited for him to finish so he could drive him home. A few more pics in hand, and a dazed Danny was dropped off at his apartment.
The Wayne manor was in an uproar when the pics hit the Batfam group chat.
Part 1-To be or not to be (a blackmailer) – @anti-the-glitch-bitch on Tumblr
Part 3-https://www.tumblr.com/anti-the-glitch-bitch/746033028832362496/to-be-or-not-to-be-a-blackmailer-part-3
#dp x dc crossover#tim drake wayne x danny phantom#dpxdc#Jason loves throwing that chaos grenade when he can#Tim hates the fact that Danny doesn't know he's the Red Robin and thinks Jason is better than he is#Danny def could have taken that guy but his idol was in front of him and he was low key having a fangirl moment
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batfam stealing eachothers clothes whrn they miss eachother, especially when one of them is off on a long mission. dicks stuff is only stolen in Special Situations™ due to his horrible fashion sense. but one time Nightwing is off on some off world mission for a few weeks longer than expected and Gotham's underground erupts into chaos at the sight of red hood, local scary crime lord, wearing an awful bedazzled, cropped jacket with cat patches and tassels.
#he missed his bro ok?#a similar situation happened with the titans when red robin showed up in a big fuzzy green hoodie#but they knew better than to ask#batman#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood
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Images are not mine, they’re from Wayne Family Adventures (wfa) on Webtoon.
#I did not intend on this being a line-#don’t come at me for this being inaccurate if it is#I know some characters better than others so they’re prob more accurately placed#I did a BiT of guessing#damian wayne#damian al ghul#jason todd#red hood#bruce wayne#batman#tim drake#red robin#robin#cass cain#cassandra cain#black bat#dick grayson#night wing#richard grayson#stephanie brown#duke thomas#bat boys#bat family#bat fam#dcu#dc universe
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Things batfam stans need to leave behind in 2023:
Jason's Lazarus pit rage
Thinking Tim's parents were horribly abusive and hated him
Only caring about Stephanie in terms of her relationship to another person (ex: Tim's bestie/ex/gf or Cass' gf/bestie)
Treating Jason or Stephanie like they're stupid
Feral Demon Child Damian
Permanent sunshine boy Dick Grayson
Any "[blank] was the real violent Robin" discourse
Really just any reducing or sectioning of certain traits to certain batfam members and not allowing other characters to exhibit those same traits (ex: see sunshine Dick Grayson)
But also stealing traits from other characters and projecting them onto someone else (ex: Jason getting Dick's personality in fics. He is not the same type of big brother Dick is canonically)
Purposefully mischaracterizing characters for angst (ex: Dick sent Tim to Arkham, my beloathed. also again see Tim's parents)
Trying really hard to nuclearize the family. They are an unconventional family for many reasons, and that's why they're interesting.
"Alfred solos the batfam"
Making Duke "the normal one" and completely forgetting to give him an actual personality.
Cass using sign language because she can read body language (note: does not apply to YJ Cass who has damaged vocal chords)
Cass being used as a prop for her brothers
Tim being weak, woobified baby
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Don't send hate over these things because idgaf, they are harmful mischaracterizations, and many are built on total ignorance and often racism, classism, ableism, and sexism.
#I know there's 7 million other things that NEED TO DIE but honestly why am I still seeing that in 2024#I'm so done with the constant mischaracterizations and made up au bullshit that people will argue is canon when they don't like any media#and I'm saying any because some of y'all won't even watch cartoons or play video games#and at least have the balls to admit it and not screech every time someone tells you something isn't real#or thinking that it's 'hate' and 'not letting people enjoy things' when you get basic information wrong about a character that you don't kn#and AGAIN THERE'S SO MUCH BIGOTRY THAT Y'ALL ARE BLIND TO BUT SWEAR YOU'RE BETTER THAN DC#Even some dc writers understand that portraying Damian as an uncontrolled feral child is rooted in racism#that boy is a PRINCE AND ACTS LIKE IT#I can go on forever#but yeah I'm just tired of this shit#batfam#batfamily#bat family#alfred pennyworth#nightwing#dc robin#dick grayson#jason todd#red hood#tim drake#I would add the coffee thing but that's too obvious#cassandra cain#cass cain#stephanie brown#batgirl#the spoiler#barbara gordon#oracle#duke thomas#the signal
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so the Dark Knights of Steel didn't give any of the robins backstories or heavily defined characteristics and I want to change that. I love a good fantasy AU and the batfam. What could go wrong?
#yes they will get custom swords i love drawing weaponry#i also want to explore how the robins roles as spies and scouts and knights impact the character design#Cass and Tim get more royal advisor vibes than big armor like Jason and Steph#also they're more like younger siblings to Bruce since they're all way closer in age than normal#i want to think about them all but thats also so overwhelming so i think focusing on one at a time would be a good idea#last option bc every broody knight is better as a buff woman#i am here to have fun and that is it#batman#andromedas poll hell#batfam#dark knights of steel#bruce wayne#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood#robin#dc robin#cassandra cain#batgirl#batfamily#tim drake#stephanie brown#duke thomas#damian wayne#red robin#dc comics#dc universe#earth 118
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I want a reverse Robin au with Duke as Red Hood
I have seen plenty of Red Hood!Damian, I’ve seen Stephanie as Red Hood, but I have seen one fic that made Duke Red Hood and that was like, incorrect quotes(I liked it ofc, but still)
Bc I feel like it would go so well??(I have never read any comics pls tell me if I’m wrong)
Damian would be SO against him at first cus I’m Blood son and an heir?? Why do you need another one?? One that doesn’t even have proper training like I DO(is it jealousy mixed with league training? Idk, probably)
But they form some kind of bond(begrudgingly) anyway, and maybe Thomas isn’t that bad-
Then Joker happens
I mean, Duke WILL go if he heard there was a chance of finding his parents(bc I think all of their backstories will go same except for period-inappropriate things)
So imagine Damian, hearing his little brother died by JOKER(and the worse thing is his parents were there, completely changed by joker venom, laughing hysterically while they couldn’t even acknowledge what they had lost)
Will Damian kill Joker? Probably. And if he did, he would kill him the exact way he killed Duke
Would he have fallout with Batman? Yes. Will it be as bad, if not worse than Dick? Absolutely.
Idk I just wanted to see Red Hood!Duke
#DC#dc comics#I have never read one in my life#Duke Thomas#Damian Wayne#Bruce Wayne#Batfam#Batfamily#Wayne family#Duke is my favorite#and I want to see more of him#why do most of reverse robin au make Damian Red Hood#not that I’m complaining but still#Reverse!Robin au#reverse robins#Red Hood!Duke Thomas#gimme that#he’s from narrows I think he’ll do fine as Red Hood#just imagine ANGST and FEELS#Damian would avenge his lil bro#and I think Duke would have better relationship with Damian than Jason did with Dick?#idk just my thoughts#damian al ghul#will he be Duke Thomas or Duke Thomas-Wayne in this au? who knows#bc I don’t think he’ll ever give up on his parents
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“hope” is the thing with feathers - emily dickinson
batman/superman: world's finest #6 // red hood and the outlaws: rebirth // batman v3 #135 // robin v4 #126 // shadow war #3 // nightwing v4 annual 2 // batman v3 #148 // batman v3 #125 // batman v1 #633 // batman incorporated v2 #8 // detective comics #1000
#i actually hated making this very much. a lot went wrong. but i finished it and that's all that really matters.#please correct me if i put the wrong source of quote/comic#it wasn't supposed to end with the whole batfamily so i initially debated including steph#because she IS a robin but she deserves better than being lumped in with them#ultimately i decided that she at the very least deserved to not be left out#batman#bruce wayne#nightwing#dick grayson#red hood#jason todd#red robin#tim drake#spoiler#stephanie brown#robin#damian wayne#batfamily#web weaving
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the real reason that i love ‘the boy wonder’ jason so much is because he kills people and i think his outfit looks really comfortable
#the truth finally gets out#seriously though i’d wear his suit#it’s at least better than whatever the fuck he was wearing in 148. i shudder at the memory#dc comics#jason todd#dc#robin#red hood#the boy wonder#juni ba
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Prompt:
Jason goes back in time to make sure his younger self stays dead.
#he thinks he’s doing everyone a favor#meanwhile the bats are falling over each other trying to stop him#they don’t approve of his methods#But dear God anything is better than him being dead#Bruce is so ready to break every single universal law to stop Jason#meanwhile Jason waiting at the grave: ——#au Bruce is contacted by a panicked gang of his alternate family screaming at him to go to Jason’s grave ASAP#jason todd#batfamily#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batfam#robin#tim drake#red hood#Damian wayne#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#prompts
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