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btw tw for talking about abuse
I've seen a lot online about how the game never mentions Caterina's abuse of Lucanis while he was growing up (being beaten and starved, which is mentioned in the Wigmaker Job) and I think there's a small mention to it if you're a crow (when asked, he says it was torture training under the first talon and that he resented her for a long time)
And while I do think part of the reason why this isn't brought up is just due to how sanitized this game is when it comes to the crows, I think I do understand why in world wise it's not possible to just be like hey lucanis, fuck your grandma.
It's really hard, loving someone who hurts you. Because you know they're hurting you and yet, you still love them. It's even harder when they're family.
Because its not like Lucanis doesn't know that she hurt him. He says so himself - he hated her, he resented her, and althought I do think him 'justifying' it by saying that at least it prepared him for the life of a crow, at least he still admits that it happened.
But the thing is that despite all this shit, she's still his grandmother. And like, yes, blood shouldn't excuse justifing this behaviour, I feel like it's cultural. Idk how spain or italy works when it comes to family, but here in brazil, you'll hear so many stories of physical abuse happening in families, and its still a situation like Lucanis - i hate them, i resent them, i love them, they're my family.
It's a...complicated situation and I think Lucanis's situation is made worst by the fact that he only has two family members alive and that he cannot let go of.
She beat him, she starved him, he hated and resented her, and he was afraid of dissapointing her, even if in her eyes, i don't think he could. I mean, he comes back an abomination and she still tenderly says 'my poor boy' when you rescue her in the Villa.
All in all...it's tought and I think that it would not be Rook's place to suddenly make Lucanis want to kill his grandma bc he wouldn't. Sorting out those feelings is something he has to do himself, and i'l almost glad the game doesn't make rook do a therapy session with him to talk about it.
#its complicated ok#i've just been thinking a lot about this#bc of my relationship with my mom#and coming to terms that i may be experiencing verbal abuse from her#and the very complex feelings i have in regards to her#so i kinda understand where lucanis comes from?#and why its not adressed in game#this is something lucanis has already come to terms with#there's not a lot you can do about it#maybe after caterina died he would think about it#but its not something that can just be 'solved'#in fact i think if caterina straight up died it would be worst#at least with her alive he could have some time to like fucking properly deal with these feelings#idk i'm not defending caterina#i'm just saying its complicated#idk i just see some posts about 'making lucanis realize all the shit caterina did and go kill her'#and i'm like idk if that would do anything for him#btw don't come for me this is a complicated topic and i did my best to express myself in the wretched language that is english#and when i talk about the cultural part#its bc more than once here you'll have people “brush off” that their parents did those things to them#bc its like...'its been so long and its made into the person i am today and there's not much point in dwelling on it'#it may not be the healthiest thing ever#but sometimes its what you have#sometimes you can't think about it too much if you just want to get on with your day#sometimes its does it even fucking matter its so in the past now#anyways#tw talk of abuse#again DON'T COME FOR ME#lucanis dellamorte
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Dad always said I was like him
Meijack and Chilchuck Tims Dungeon Meshi, Ryoko Kui
^ 1: Moony moonless sky, Fatima Aamer Bilal / 2: Bug like an angel, Mitski / 3: Woodtangle, Mary Ruefle / 4: The Third Hour of the Night, Frank Bidart / 5 & 6: FROM THE MAKERS OF "TWO-MOM ENERGY DRINK," IT'S "LET YOUR FATHER DIE ENERGY DRINK,", Daniel Lavery & Cecilia Corrigan / 7: Batman: Year Three (1989) / 8 & 9 : FROM THE MAKERS OF […], Daniel Lavery & Cecilia Corrigan / 10: Wilt, CJ the X / 11: How Do We Forgive Our Fathers, Dick Lourie / 12: Milk and honey, Rupi Kaur / 13: And My Father's Love Was Nothing Next To God's Will, Amatullah Bourdon / 14: Moony moonless sky, Fatima Aamer Bilal / 15: Someday I’ll Love Ocean Vuong, Ocean Vuong / 16: untitled, Joan Tierney v 17: Drunk, The Living Tombstone / 18: unknown
When your father tried his best to provide for you but he worked all the time and even when he was home he was either tired or stressed and he’s always liked to get drunk to relax and cheer up. When you know he values work ethics and respectability so you grew up to be capable and quiet. And when he says you’re like him you’re sort of puzzled, does he really know you so little, or does he know himself so little? But you like the feeling of your father ruffling your hair so you accept it, and still you stand next to your mother just as silent and just as stoic as her during family gatherings. He leaves again and again and when your mother leaves him nothing changes, really. You wonder if it’s more telling that you know him better than he seems to himself or that you don’t know him as much as you wish you did, or that you don’t think about him all that much these days. Out of sight, out of mind. And he’s never really been there, even when he was there, after all.



#It’s ok they do get in touch again and he prob at least lives to 40#Alright I’m ready to be normal about chilchuck again#Spoilers#I guess?#dungeon meshi#chilchuck tims#meijack#chilchuck’s family#meijack chils#Web weaving#alcoholism#cw alcohol#webweave#A couple more i liked are like a rearview mirror we’re not as close as we appear line and this french one from#Kristina Gauthier-Landry that goes like hands full of trout running up to you / look what i caught look / how much you love me#And this other one about chocolate coins that a dad arriving from work in middle of the night gives the happy little daughter running up#And it’s so anticlimatic and about transactional relationships and oughh ough it’s a good book#I am Chil is a complex absentee father truther sorry. Idc go see my analyses if you want don’t argue w me here#posts for which i am the target audience#Oh oh another one : So were we close? Or was it just the big things that held us together and the small things that let us fall apart?#The word father rotted in my mouth#Bc it’s left there to rot get it get it………..#Sigh. Like father alike daughter#I’m a truther that she’s more like her mom demeanor wise
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Imagine Odysseus taking one of those ‘who is your godly parent?’ Test(for fun ofc)
He gets Athena, and it’s rlly fluffy, happy mentor-mentee moment-
Until Hermes see that
He weeps(dramatically, ofc) so shocked about such a betrayal, Athena how dare you steal my great-grandson??
#epic the musical#odysseus#epic#Athena#hermes#trying to be delusional and happy after god games#tryin to focus on vengeance saga#Hermes is that one weird(cool) uncle#Athena is kinda mix between strict mom and cool aunt#Hermes loves his descendants and you can pry that from my cold dead hands#no bc I’m damn sure he almost flip when he found out what Calypso had done#Athena&Hermes friendship#is it friendship when they’re siblings??#rlly good relationship ig#they’re like big happy family :)#Mr Jalapeño made me cry so Imma be delulu
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i like when darquesse asks china as she's dying what valkyrie was to her--daughter, sister, or toy--as if china's smart enough to know the answer
#she and val have one of my favorite relationships in the series bc theyre the most accurately aunt/niece duo ive ever read about#do you know what i mean like china will be like i don't care what you do im not your mom lol and then it'll go too far and she will have to#sit valkyrie down and minorly parent her because nobody else will#and valkyrie has the appropriate ratio of respect/disrespect for china and then out of nowhere she'll be like#im sorry i grew up to be such a disappointment i know you expected and wanted better for me....#theyre very funny and sweet i love them so much#says kenna#skulduggery pleasant
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joão accidentally became very important in my pirate au so i needed to find an excuse for him to stick around. also i wanted to draw him again 🥸
#hetalia world stars#hws portugal#aph portugal#my art#i consider antonio and joão cousins (their moms were sisters) so thats the explaination for that#i just . think hes neat.#he rounds out the cast nicely considering the rest of the important members of antonios crew is the tomato gang#ned gets to have someone to antagonize antonio with. also antonio gets a familial relationship to play off of the vargas boys and theirs#since. the story is more focused on That anyway lol.#ALSO. he gets Longer hair bc tonio does too. and its tied back differently#lol its fun making characters that are meant to be visually similar More Distinct
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#satosugu#sooooo if you're wondering why “кохання” and “любов” (in comic in the vocative case) are both translated as “love” there#it's bc there are two words for love in ukrainian#“любов” can be used for anything you love — animals. country. friends. parents. your partner. food etc#but “кохання” is used only for romantic relationships#so basically you can't say “I `кохаю` (verb) my mom”#you have to say “I люблю (verb) my mom”#but you can say both “I `люблю`” and “I `кохаю`” to your partner#although “кохання” is a stronger and more intimate word#that's why Satoru calls Suguru his love and then again but even more intimately#that's why i didn't translate it as usual but added the text separately#bc I like this detail#gojo satoru#geto suguru#jujutsu kaisen#for people who saw the post in the first five minutes - I'm so sorry the tags were mixed up
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There's this one stream from June where Hbomberguy plays Tactical Brach Wizards and chats with Tom Francis (the game's creator, writer and developer), and the whole thing is really interesting! They talk mostly about the development of the game and some of what Tom says is already on the Developer's Comment in the special edition, BUT there are some lore things/fun details that I found interesting:
Being a wizard in this world is regarded more or less the same way as being a doctor in ours ("It's impressive, but no one's like, 'oh my god, can i get an autograph'")
Jen's mom is an arcanist
Bank's heart "canonically isn't pounding" in the missions because "she's used to life and death situations"
Banks "cares about who lives and dies"
Tom mentions that Banks doesn't have as good of a relationship with the rest of the team, and that her and Jen's relationship is "hot and cold" (LMAO)
Darrell's hiding spots were all basically John Roberts' idea (the game's sole artist)
The world of Tactical Breach Wizards (as in, the geography and literal placement of countries) intentionally does not look like the real world. "The DSR resembles the UK and America in some ways", but isn't really a 1 to 1 so "they don't map to real clichés and dynamics of the world".
#tactical breach wizards#mucho texto#okay since he talks about jens mom in the present tense that makes my theory about her being dead PROBABLY not canon. darn#the fact that shes an arcanist makes it all so more juicier though. the Potential...#did she pressure jen to unlock her powers??? HOW did she unlock her powers??#thats not related to this its just crazy we dont know one of the main character's backstory.#Also the way he says 'banks canonically' makes it seem like this is ingame and maybe i missed it but Where. I NEED the lore#also also i GET why he says that about jen and banks relationship bc spoiling their arcs a month before the game comes out is. well. stupid#but also LMAAAOOOOOO#anyways i find that last part about the countries really cool. really good video#the fact that hbomberguy keeps using banks drug cocktail to push the other player characters around is so so so funny#thats all. play tactical breach wizards.
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Pinako and Hohenheim were friends since she was a young woman and it brings me so much joy. I like the implication that he stayed in Resembool or, at the very least, kept coming back to visit her, and that's the only reason he met Trisha in the first place.
and then they were those best friends that are like we're going to live next door to each other and raise our kids together :) except by the time Hohenheim manages to settle down Pinako's already a grandmother
#also what's the deal with yuriy's dad?? do we know?? what'd he think of that whole situation?#also the relationship between trisha and pinako would be so odd bc it's like ok you're old enough to be my mom so I kind of see you as this#older person I can go to for advice esp being a mom#but then you're also dragging my husband out for drinking nights and telling me the WILDEST stories about the things you two got up to#it's just so fun I love it#i love the resembool adult dynamic a lot#pinako rockbell#van hohenheim#c: pinako#c: van hohenheim
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Voyager's obsession with every female character being a mother either literally or metaphorically is so dire like even SESKA got pregnant. Someone put a planned parenthood in the Delta Quadrant PLEASE. Someone start handing out condoms, this is an EMERGENCY.
#Kes barely got out of there alive#Janeway also got out in CANON but in FANDOM she's liiiike everyone's mom <3 like the ship's mommy <3 Hey. C'MON NOW.#I (in general - not in every case) hate when people say 'well X is like a mom/dad to Y' bc more often than not it's just left at that#as if being a parent is just like an uncomplicated and homogenous thing that lets you not have to think about that relationship#in any more depth#ESPECIALLY with mothers and motherhood which I assume is from the notion that motherhood is 'natural' for women.#Like a fish to water!!! Yaaay yippee!!!!#I find it hard to describe my frustration with this both in fandom and in mainstream media but it deeply deeply frustrates me
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I love unhinged women
#pokemon uranium#leafeon#urayne#i love lucille but the protag goes from probably not having an opinion on their mom besides being the reason their dad left to being#that one person who tried to kill you multiple times - caused a few nuclear meltdowns - tried to kill your dad and your best friend#i NEEEDDD her to wake up i cant imagine how strained their relationship is going to be on top of CURIE absolutely hating your guts#anyway i only got 3 hours of sleep bc my brain wouldnt let me sleep until i finished this#i have 2 hours til work wish me luck in getting at least a wink of sleep#my art#pokemon uranium spoilers
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i enjoy toxic yuri mafuena as much as the next person but sometimes i wish people would focus more on how ena takes care of mafuyu. like when ena held her hand in one of the guiding a list child card stories. or when she was telling mafuyu to move when the light turned green in that one area conversation. they complement each other in so many different ways that's so fucking good and idk how to put it into words and i want to explode
#splootspeaks#pjsk#mafuena#it's time like this that i wish i was a fanfic writer tbh shdkgj. if i could only formulate the words#LIKE. ARCHERS GLOVE VS ARTIST GLOVE#ena having the conviction and commitment to becoming an artist but not getting the support from her dad n mafuyu not knowing what she wants#to do but getting the “support” from her mom#they each have what the other wants and they complete each other in the most perfect and painful way possible and i wANT TO EXPLORE THEIR#RELATIONSHIP SO BAD AOURGH. ok fic idea#mafuena and shizuairi hang out n while they're all out together it's like mafuyu taking care of ena but when they each go back to their#respective sekais or smth it's more like ena taking care of mafuyu or smth#or. ACK. IDK I JUST. AM SOOO ILL ABT THEM RN#it would also b soooso nice for shizuai to notice the little things abt the two bc of archeryclub n middleschool friends or whatevr#shizuku noticing how mafuyu seems a bit more relaxed or airi noticing how ena's a bit more or smth like that#does this mean anything 🧍🧍🧍#sory for my very unstructured rambling but i am so ill abt the girlies rn. 💥💥💥💥
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"Rhaenyra isn't the stepmother, she's the mother who stepped up!"
The HOTD writers themselves are hardly doing anything to support that narrative, so I take this rhetoric with a grain of salt. While I think, in some way, Rhaenyra does care for Baela and Rhaena....if I had to point out a motherly figure for them that could pose as someone stepping in Laena's place, Rhaenyra would not be it.
#house of the dragon#hotd#hotd critical#rhaenyra targaryen critical#baela targaryen#rhaena targaryen#this mainly just comes from my frustration with this fandom painting rhae as overly motherly toward baela & rhaena#making it seem like we had so much to go on for her being a good stepmother when it's really the bear minimum#there's more with rhaenys being there for them than with rhae--- both physically & verbally#even with scenes where she's with them: for baela it holds more of political means with her having a dragon and then using her to see corly#like sure she could be concerned about her well-being but it's definitely not on the same level as with her sons#don't even get me started on with rhaena bc that “be a mother to them” line had me 🤬#and her referring to her sons as hers and the pain of sending them away but not adhering to rhaena's emotional needs and feelings of inferi#rity--- like it didn't sit right with me especially when she couldn't even be bothered to hug her#i like to enjoy headcanons about their relationship but the canon material doesn't stray far either#rhaenys raised baela alongside her on driftmark she sought rhaena out when they met after so long#she advocated for rhaena to her husband over joffery--- she's their grandMOTHER that stepped up tbh#tbh i wouldn't really be rocking with my stepmom if she sought after & slept with my dad at my mom & stillborn brother's funeral#barely comforted my sister and i when we were injured in a fight (only her sons)#then got married to said father not long after said funeral...like i'd be pressed tbh!#dni if you can't have a collected conversation about this#rhaenys targaryen#(also just bc im a little critical of rhae doesn't mean i hate her in comparison to others she's not that bad tbh)
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The fact that Briar is listed as one of Rosabella's best friends in her profile but Briar's profile barely mentions her..
#oh they could be so angsty if mattel hadn't forgotten that they were related#i'm sure someone's said this before but whatever i think abt it too often#and yes ik rosabella is mentioned among briar's friends later but it's abt proximity ok#this is also partially bc mattel refused to give rosabella fleshed out characterisation and other friends#but i'm ignoring that too bc the angst potential of this is so much more fun#ever after high#eah#briar beauty#rosabella beauty#like rosabella constantly protesting bc she cares that much and her friends forgetting#and then her profile#idk something abt her always caring too much and it making her come off as overly sensitive#vs other ppl thinking she's a bit out there#am i projecting? possibly BUT SHE'S ONE OF MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS IM ALLOWED TO#also briar probably has a hella weird relationship w her aunt and i need to see them in a room together#especially after briar goes off script cause her parents wouldn't have ever been ok w that#but her aunt? who's supposed to love everyone no matter what? who briar is probably super distant towards cause it's implied her mom#doesn't get along w her sister? oh u just know they both cried when she visited that day#n e way been meaning to make this post for a while and keep forgetting so
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What are your headcanons about Marcille's mom if you have any? It's interesting that what drew Donato to her was cause she lived the history he studied, or that was said somewhere at least. She must've had an interesting life.
so this was going to be just a normal answer but then I realized I have a Lot of Things To Say. so here goes, a compilation of what we know for a fact from the canon, what I've extrapolated from the visual cues and details, and my theories based on all of that.
Things we know for a fact about Marcille's mother because they were explicitly stated in the manga and supplemental materials:
She was a court mage for a Tall-man kingdom at the southern part of the Northern Continent
Donato, a court historian, fell in love with her because she had lived through the history he was studying, and he courted her for 17 years (age 15 to 32) before getting married
She was a cheerful person who rarely showed extreme emotion and took things as they came
She always cooked a huge meal for Marcille on her birthdays
She remarried a gnome after Donato's death and a short distance away from Marcille's childhood home
Pipi, Marcille's pet bird, was actually older than Marcille and originally belonged to her mother (bird died at 62)
She was extremely heartbroken when Donato died and ultimately ended up instilling a deep fear of mortality in Marcille with her words
the only time she showed extreme emotion in front of her family was when Donato could no longer eat his favourite dish near the end of his life.
She scolded Marcille for being cruel to ants (implying she can have a stern side when needed)
Things that are explicitly shown but mostly through visual cues
She has a very distinctive style of dress always involving a ribbon choker (mirroring Marcille's habit of always wearing a matching choker with any of her outfits that don't cover her neck)
She was almost stereotypically good at housekeeping and traditionally "wifely" things (very frequently depicted wearing an apron or doing some domestic chore when not at work, seems to have been an avid cook).
She knits? (also, note the affectionate smile as she's looking at Donato and Marcille reading a book together in the full panel)

She was as excited for Marcille's milestones as Donato was.

She didn't tell Marcille much about elven food
(there are a couple things that this panel in particular implies:
She lived a good deal of her life (if not being born and raised) in a mainly elven country in the West, implied by her knowing enough of an elven region's cuisine to prefer Tall-man food over it
seems to have a pretty carefree and casual demeanour overall, if this is how she replied to Marcille asking her about it (sounds like she never gave her culinary preferences that much thought to begin with)
slightly related to number 2, it seems like she and Marcille had a fairly casual parent-child dynamic (especially in comparison to the Toudens' memory of their father)
(local elf tastes Italian food once and never goes back))



However, she seems a lot more... serious in most of the other times we see her? Almost like the very stereotypical archetype of a graceful elf.
Subsequent conclusions about her personality:
Usually pretty carefree and cheerful at home, has been a loving and attentive parent throughout Marcille's childhood (while not being so doting that she didn't discipline Marcille).
Slightly more conjectural theories on her personality:
Had a much more graceful and professional personality at work, which would explain the more serious portraits we see of her.
Given that both she and Donato had positions at the royal court, it seems a little odd that she'd go out of her way to do all the housework herself, so maybe she just enjoyed doing it?
Now taping all the evidence together and toeing the line between analysis and fanfiction:
It's clear that she loved Donato very much and was utterly devastated by losing him. But there's one thing that really stuck out to me in what little we see of her:


Doesn't she seem... angry? The way she's gritting her teeth, clutching the tablecloth, and how this is the first and only time we see her eyes opened that wide. In the following panel, you see her being quiet and dejected after her initial outburst. She's still crying very intensely, but her brows are furrowed, and she's not really responding to Donato's affection in her body language.
We're not told the details of how she felt about losing Donato other than that it upset her. But this, to me, implies that she was angry and resented that he was aging, that the end of his life was approaching. An "it's not fair" type of preemptive grief. And if this was the first and last time she cried like this in front of her family, she was either very good at coping in private... or very bad at letting herself feel unpleasant emotions until they become unavoidable and end up overwhelming her.
It's not too remarkable a detail on the surface. It's even reminiscent of what the audience has seen of Marcille. But... when it comes to the big picture, you'd think an elf who voluntarily chose to marry a tall-man and have a half-elf child would have been better prepared for this.
It kind of recontextualizes her cheerfulness to me.

"I'm sure everything's gonna be okay!" (or some variation thereof, depending on what translation you have).
And this is stated to contrast her extreme grief when finally confronting Donato's failing body and eventual death. But I'm wondering if... maybe this optimism was why she was so upset. What if she went into all of it thinking "everything's gonna be okay"? What if she was a little young by elven standards, and just followed her heart thinking that her own resilience would get her through anything?
Of course, only to get completely overwhelmed when she actually loses Donato. She turns into a completely different person. And that's heartbreaking on its own-- but what the audience sees is the effect it had on Marcille. Can you imagine being her, watching your invincible and upbeat mother suddenly lose all the light in her eyes in one go?
I've already made a huge post about how I think Marcille models her "work persona" off her mother, but another thing that stuck with me as I was looking for more details in the manga was this:
copy pasting from the other post i made about it lmao it's like... the second she resigns herself to lifelong pain and terror, there's another portrait of her mother facing her like this. with their heads bowed, in mirrored body language of resignation and despair and sorrow. Except it's posed like Marcille is still looking at her mother but her mother is looking away.
It took me a second to realize, but I think that it's a visual metaphor for the fact that Marcille's mother was the only long-lived role model she had-- and she failed to model healthy grief for her daughter. I don't say this as an accusation or to disparage her as a character, but just as a matter of fact. In her, Marcille was seeing herself older and losing a short-lived spouse or loved one of her own, and all she saw was hopelessness.
But her mother didn't mean to instill hopelessness and terror in her. She wasn't really thinking of how it would truly affect Marcille at all (at least, that's how I'm interpreting her looking down and away from Marcille in the metaphor), she was just sad. And she, in her own way, was trying to protect her daughter and help her prepare for future losses.
What she meant was "loss is inevitable, and you have to learn how to be in pain but live on anyway." What Marcille heard was "loss is inevitable, and you will be scared and hurt for the rest of your life."
Again. Marcille's mother doesn't feature explicitly in the story the way her father does -- but in so many ways, her shadow, her silhouette, her reflection is always hanging over Marcille.
All that to say... headcanon-wise (everything from here on is 100% without evidence lmao), I'd like to think that she matured and realized that she failed Marcille. I imagine her being regretful about it, wanting a chance to fix it but never finding a way to insert herself back into Marcille's life when Marcille is so so so busy becoming the most accomplished mage possible. I imagine her being herself again, now, so many years after her loss and after remarrying -- but with her cheerfulness tempered with a lot more wisdom and the pain of having gone through loss like that. I think the second Marcille actually tells her what happened in the dungeon, she'd want to go running to her daughter again -- if Marcille tells her the full truth instead of just being embarrassed she let things get that far. (oh, the tragedy of her wanting to be more like her mother and an accomplished adult who doesn't need to be babied... being embarrassed to actually tell her mother how much she fucked up...)
There's also the tension of her having remarried -- I know that there's at least a little bit of resentment that Marcille harbours about that, because she's childish like that at heart even if she makes an effort not to externalize it. I think that her mother would be aware of that, potentially adding to her sense of guilt and apprehension at trying to reappear/intrude on Marcille's life. I honestly don't think Marcille has met her stepfather -- or even considers him a stepfather rather than "mama's new husband" and kind of a total stranger. I think she and her mother actively don't talk about it in their correspondence, like an elephant in the room.
but, ultimately, I think her mother is on her side no matter what. Ancient magic? Dark necromancy? Sure, she'll feel guilty and like she was partially responsible for setting Marcille down such a painful path, but she wouldn't care. that's her daughter!! she would've moved back west and been petitioning for her at the court, buying a house right next to the Canaries barracks and visiting her every day that she wasn't on a mission. And if her husband had opinions on Marcille becoming a "dark arts user," he either gets over it or it's divorce with him. Yes, she might have had her optimism completely humbled by losing Donato like that -- but she's still headstrong and self-assured and she doesn't care what people think of her. It's her way or the highway and she's always going to be in Marcille's corner.
(She also needs a name lol. I went with Juno, just to be cute about "Marcille"s closest real life equivalent being Marcella, which is the female version of Marcellus, which in turn is a diminutive of Marcus, which was derived from Mars. Absolutely in love with Marcille potentially being named after Ares/Mars the fucking god of war btw)
#asks#she could easily be interpreted as distant or neglectful after Donato's death too#with how little involvement she has in Marcille's life/the fact that Marcille doesn't even mention her when talking about her life prospect#and that's fair! I will argue to hell and back that she was a loving parent when Donato was alive#but there's nothing that suggests she remained a loving parent afterwards#I just think that like... parental relationships are so complicated in dungeon meshi#you cannot deny that the toudens' mother loved them dearly but that she failed them both miserably as a parent#and i think it'd be more compelling if Marcille's mother was a little like that too#not a totally and easily dismissable deadbeat#but someone who truly loves her daughter but was only human herself and couldn't be what Marcille needed at a crucial moment#and regrets it deeply#and that the distance between them is mutually self-imposed by complicated feelings of guilt and fear#and a little resentment from Marcille's side that she hasn't really properly processed#I don't know if I'll ever get around to writing it but i had this idea where Marcille does finally spill the beans to her mom and she just#immediately arrives in Melini#and its awkward for a bit but they do finally have a heart to heart and air it all out#and marcille starts freaking out that her marriage is rocky rn bc her new husband wants her to distance herself from marcille#on account of the crimes and all#marcille's like no you can't blow up your marriage for me and her mother just shuts that shit down#'you didn't choose to be born. i was the one who made that choice for you'#'i brought you into this world and i'll be damned if i don't take responsibility for that the entire way'#'you are entitled to *nothing less* than my unconditional love.'#and obviously that's not a sentiment that's exactly healthy as a universal statement about parenthood#but i think its what her mother would believe and what marcille needs to hear#and dungeon meshi does such a fantastic job at just... letting imperfect things just *be* without having to justify it immediately#it expects the audience to do their own critical thinking#and know that its not trying to make sweeping universal statements in every instance#marcilleposting#marcille donato#junoposting
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You know if I hadn’t seen the ep myself, I would have thought Athena did so much wrong from the way people posted about things. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own interpretation but this is what I saw (spoilers below):
Athena suggested divine intervention as a door for Bobby to choose to walk through to talk to his mom. She didn’t force shit. Bobby goes bc Charlie tells him his mom invited them. Athena didn’t force him to go. He could have said no. He could have not even mentioned it to Athena at all (which would have definitely been in character).
While Athena doesn’t outright punch Ann for that house fire comment, she does look offended on Bobby’s behalf. Here’s the thing, she’s following Bobby’s lead the whole time. She sits herself between Bobby and his mom. When she does encourage him to sit, it’s right next to her so he has some distance. The moment he says Athena I have to go, she follows him.
She sits next to him in that hospital talking to him about how he’s feeling and trying to ease his pain.
Athena is not a perfect wife but she is a supportive one and I’m so fucking exhausted by folks acting like she’s not.
The pattern for who this fandom takes to task and who is allowed grace in their decisions is always the same and it’s so fucking ridiculous.
#the expectation that Athena is some perfect woman only there to serve Bobby gets on my fucking nerves every time#she’s more than that and they are more than that#they are two adults in a relationship#also Bobby didn’t tell her everything he gave her the bare minimum like he often does#so you can’t fault her for suggesting something without knowing the extent#but she sees it in that meeting with Ann and acts accordingly#I love how y’all want her to violently protect her husband when it suits you#don’t think I forgot reactions to the s7 finale when she thought her husband was going to die and went on a rampage and y’all thought she#was so wrong#but she doesn’t punch or get in his mom’s face and that’s apparently the line at which it’s unforgivable?#I won’t use the show tags bc I know it’ll just invite folks to argue with me#I don’t however mind if anyone feels inclined to reblog this
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Thinking a lot about Kaido today and his whole perspective about lying/telling the truth when it comes to your loved ones.
It's interesting to me that Kaido always seems to be the first to freak out in the scenarios in which they all find out that Saiki is a psychic, or whenever they're close to finding out (actually pretty similar to his reaction to finding out Kuboyasu used to be a delinquent too). There's an obvious element to it of him feeling like he's been deceived right away even if he can rationalize it eventually and realize that maybe it doesn't really matter.
The thing is he... isn't the most honest person out there either. There's his whole deal with his chuunibyou complex, for one, though like others have pointed out, in a way that's more true to who he is than –and this is what I was specifically thinking about– how he seems to present himself to his mother.
It's not that everything Kaido's mother thinks about him is completely wrong. People have different aspects to them and the vision she has of a Shun that can introduce himself easyly to people, who's sweet and obedient isn't necessarily all that wrong.
He seems to behave with his siblings in the same way he does with his friends but not with his mom. It stands out to me that she thanked Nendo and Saiki for being his friends because he's "shy", when we've seen him being everything but that. But isn't it true anyway? His whole act seems to give him the confidence to actually call attention and interact with people, but Saiki and Nendo seems to be his first friends in... well, who knows, maybe ever? (Not counting Raiden since he was more of like an older student he admired rather than a friend, I take it).
In the end both sides of who he is are partially true to who he is, but I think his more extravagant behavior is definitely him finding in it a way in which he can fit in and be himself, so it rings more true. He wants to be someone special, who belongs, someone who's well liked and brave and powerful. And in a way it works! Fake it til you make it. While he's not becoming an overpowered guy from another universe fighting against evil anytime soon, he does find courage in his act, and he ends up surrounded by people who might think he's being silly but they aren't bullying him because of his dramatics. He has a place there in which he can just be without any expectations.
He clearly does love his mom and his mom loves him, but the dynamic there is different. With the way he plays up the "polite boy who can't do no wrong" act around her and how she uses terms of such endearment with him, it feels more... contained. Kaido knows his mom expects a certain behavior from him and he wants to please her. Everything he does to indulge himself is in secrecy (again, his whole act) and it doesn't interfere with what his mom expects from him so most of the time that's not a problem, he can study at home and go to cram school and do what she expects him to do without it clashing with who he is outside of that.
But he can't be honest with what he wants or who he wants to be because he knows she won't approve. He braces himself when she starts talking to Nendo and Saiki because he already knew she wouldn't like them not being studious (makes me wonder if he ever did have a friend before and she didn't approve. If so, I imagine they weren't close enough for him to protest the loss like with these two).
Kaido does seem to be smart, not top of the class smart but it's stated he usually does get good grades since he has good options to get into university and his overall ranking is good. But he doesn't really seem to have any particular passion for his studies, that's something his mom wants for him. He doesn't seem to hate it either, but if anything he seems to gravitate a little more toward creative endeavors; he got excited right away with the idea of making a manga with Kuboyasu, he was trying too hard at the art gallery but trying nonetheless, and then of course his daydreamings.
That's not something he's sharing with his mom. It feels natural for him to be embarrassed of his act in front of his mom, but I mean... it's hardly like he's embarrassed about doing that in front of the whole class, so I do get the feeling it might be in part because that has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be doing with his time, especially since Saiki mentions Kaido's mom is right and his grades have been suffering.
Overall, it's quite ironic in that sense that despite seemingly loving his mom, Kaido can't bring himself to stand up to her for his own wishes most of the time, and he's not completely truthful about the person he is in front of her. And yet the apple doesn't fall far from the tree because both of them think the exact same when it comes to their loved ones being honest to them.
I think perhaps that's what makes a little difference when it comes to their views; Kaido does come to accept things like Saiki being an esper and not telling him for the longest time and Kuboyasu with his delinquent past. Because while he clearly has the same ideas about a person being completely honest with you in order to have a proper positive bond with them, he hides too. There might be some truth to who he is in his chuunnibyou act in the sense of what he wants to be, but even then he's still hiding from his mom.
He's the first to freak out at the thought of being deceived by someone he cares about, but I think, at the end of the day, he does realize that honesty does matter to him, yes, but in the same way he does want to protect people even if he's terrified out of his mind and his act helps him pretend in that way, Kuboyasu earnestly trying to live in a more respectable way isn't a lie, Saiki being there for them all and being their friend isn't a lie.
On that note, this particular moment with him and Nendo is very interesting:
Because here Kaido obviously was lying on purpose for April's fools and going overboard with it, but knowing Nendo trusted him about the camera incident when nobody else did? It meant a lot, and his way of sort of solidifying that trust is promising to himself that he won't lie to Nendo again.
He obviously does keep the whole Black Jet Wings persona even so, as he does around everybody, but I do think that's in part because that's not a lie to him, it's an act and a game, but in a way it is part of the kind of person he is.
#this got long bc i kept getting distracted and forgetting my own point help#kaido shun#tdlosk#saiki k#kaido's relationship with his mom reminds me far too much of how my mom and i used to be so naturally i'm ill about it. sorry
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