#at least in how the Ancients got their Soul Jams

[quibbs126]

So like, I’m aware this is probably just a statue, and that the Cookie depicted has no significance, but sometimes I look at her and I’m like “who are you?”

I think it’s mostly because I realized the back has stained glass of the Ancients, so I’m like “is the statue lady connected to them?”

To be honest I kind of want to assume that if she’s real, perhaps she gave them the Soul Jams? Since she’s got a dish holding out with a floating gem in it. Could have been her with their Soul Jams, you never know

[sunseed-fandump]

Heyya! Wanted to ask, since there is the Bad Batch's reaction's to the Ancients, but what do you think the Beast (so far) reaction to them, and vice versa?

Mystic Flour Cookie ==> The kids find it kind of pathetic that the minute her Cocoon of Enlightenment Plan went awry that she just... Gave up. Was it not fair that a false rumor ruined her plan? Yeah. But the fact she threw in the towel the minute things didn't go her way makes her come off more like a spoiled brat than anything.

As for Mystic Flour's opinion on the kids, she would find them pathetic in her own way. After all, what could three small children hope to achieve when they're literally going up against the entire world? At least in the case of the Beasts, they were created with the power of gods. They were made to shift the world and change it however they saw fit, as it was their creators who gave them that birthright. But these small cookies? They're nothing but ignorant selfish children who rebel for the sake of rebelling. Their hopes to do anything meaningful or impactful are for naught.

Burning Spice Cookie ==> While the kids do enjoy causing more than a bit of property damage here and there, they can't really get behind the idea of reducing the world to nothing but a lifeless wasteland of ashes. They're not interested in engaging in a war without reason. They view Burning Spice as a warmonger and disagree with his sentiment that the lives of others merely exist for his entertainment. If you're THAT bored, then get a damn hobby!

On Burning Spice's end, he would like the kids' spunk! But he would find it pathetic that they're holding back and getting so attached to each other and others. Friendships are a weakness, a vulnerability to exploit. They're limiting their true lethal potential by harboring these useless things. The children have already caused plenty of destruction, so why not just allow their lust for chaos to consume them completely? They should just let go and become the monsters they were clearly meant to be.

Shadow Milk Cookie ==> They fucking HATE this guy!!! Gingerbrave can't stand the fact he's a manipulator and puppets others like they're his toys. Wizard hates him on principle because malicious lies and rumors are something that made his life incredibly difficult. Wild Strawberry hates him because he's a clown. She doesn't like clowns. Overall, the general consensus is: This guy fucking sucks!!!! Throw tomatoes at him!!!!

As for Shadow Milk's opinion on the kids, well he'd just find them and their pointless little crusade a-DORABLE! (in a condescending way) The way they're fruitlessly struggling against the tides of fate is HILARIOUS! They're blindly following this vague idea of a "free world" that's dangling in front of them like a carrot on a stick, when really it's all just a comforting lie the kids told themselves in a pathetic attempt to give themselves purpose! The chaos and mischief they cause is definitely entertaining, and it's even juicer with that little twinge of tragedy. Simple cookies like them exist purely to be at the mercy of perfect cookies like himself. They can't change fate, even if they DID obtain all the Soul Jam! It's just not in the cards for them. They'll just keep running 'round and around until they break, and he'll be right there to make it all the more entertaining! Ah, but, he supposes they could be useful. After all, Pure Vanilla Cookie went and got himself attached. How sweet....

[cosmica-galaxy]

The timeline where the pre-corrupted beast help raise the child, how did the beasts feel the fact the ancients was the ones was raising them instead now? Especially shadow milk? Since he fought so hard to keep them and even imprisoned the child? Also did the child noticed the change in caretakers?

Burning Spice was once a cherished caretaker of the little witch before he gave into the urge for destruction. Once his fall occurred and he began to lay waste to the lands and kingdoms around himself, Shadow Milk did not give the child over to him, as he viewed him as "too threatening" to his little minion. But even as time passed and most of his power was stripped away by the enraged witches before his sealing, he still has memories of rocking the little one to sleep in his many arms. But, like all things, it eventually changed. They changed. HE changed. A small part of him misses those days where he could play with the little one, but the pessimistic "bored" half that he gave into merely views them as a relic of the past. He refuses to grieve for times that are no longer around. Eternal Sugar misses the little one after she fell to corruption. After the fall of the once-great heroes, she was denied by Shadow Milk to see the little one, as he had become possessive of them and even denied returning them to their true mother. Killing the mother witch in favor of keeping HIS little one safe and by his side. Eternal Sugar misses the days where the little one would cuddle into her and babble about little things, or even showed her what made the little one so happy. Happiness was so easy for younglings to achieve, so much so, that she found herself becoming a little envious of the little one. Yet, Shadow Milk forbade her from taking the little one anywhere but his citadel in the fallen spire of truth. She coveted what was his, but he kept his treasure close with a steely grip. She just wanted to hold them one last time before she got imprisoned with the rest of the beasts. Could she at least have that little bit of happiness? Shadow Milk denied her that happiness. Mystic Flour and Silent Salt both went on their own versions of conquests. Crumbling plagues and violent splitting of cookies and celestial bodies...they barely have intact memories to reflect upon with the little one. Mystic Flour can recall when her Haetae follower used to play with the little one in the ivory temple of volition, which was now coated in a snowy layer of white flour. Her feelings buried deep within herself and her apathy had overwhelmed her past adoration of the child. It was a child of her enemy and nothing more. Silent Salt did not speak through his oath of silence, but he did conquest across the land. His salty lands were rarely visited by the little one, as he was always busy standing guard and fighting monsters for his people...the same people he turned his blade against. Shadow Milk denied any contact with them after the fall. They would just split the little one open...and he couldn't have that. As for Shadow Milk himself, he remembered sealing his precious treasure away inside of their item that was adorned with deceitful snakes, gold, and milky white gilding. It would only react to his soul jam and nothing else, and he had promised that he would come back for them once the war was over and the witches were defeated. Yet, that did not come to pass.

However, Shadow Milk could still feel the connection he had with the item and how it merely drifted through the other-realm for so long. Until one day...it shatters.

SMC felt panic run through his body at the thought of his little one's jewel shattering and killing it's precious cargo along with it. He paced restlessly in the silver tree, banging against the roots, the fork, and the chains that bound him to the dark side of the moon. Not knowing what became of his little one while he is imprisoned. He would do ANYTHING he could to crawl his way out of his prison to reclaim whatever was left of his treasure. Meanwhile, the child merely awakens after a very VERY long sleep and is mostly confused by the new faces...but welcomes them all the same.

They were untouched by the war and time had not passed for them at all. So they merely accept their new caretakers like they did in the past with the pre-corrupted beasts. Each one filling a similar role to what the beasts did back in the past.

Pure Vanilla, their caretaker. Dark Cacao, a strong and protective warrior. Golden Cheese, a winged mother figure. Hollyberry, a cheery grandmother. White Lilly, a distant member whom they barely see, yet a great teacher. Each one filling the roles of the beasts and raising the child, despite the mysteries surrounding them and how they got into the item nor why they were wearing a little jester onesie when they popped out.

When the beasts emerge once again to enact their wrath upon the world, or attempt to, the beasts will meet with the little one...and some will react stronger than others. Apathy and Silence won't really react much, as if they don't even recall the little one at all. Yet, Burning Spice will have a moment of pause in seeing them still alive...and still as young as the day he was sealed in the tree. Eternal Sugar is quick to scoop them up and hug them when they finally meet again--which fills a hole in her own heart that she didn't know she had. And Shadow Milk? He's on a fast track to reclaim what's his.

[killa-cookie]

idea here so uhm you know since we still have our soul jam we're with gingerbrave gang the entire time and we met different people yeah like just imagine that but meeting mystic flour burning spice first and of course us we need to hide ourselves or fight em off for mystic flour we managed to get away by concealing ourselves and by burning spice we tried helping golden cheese like all the years that we disappeared we gotten more stronger and we managed to fight em off temporarily and to shadow milk is just us having a right out trauma because of him probably on what he did to the readers people or the fact that he mentally tortured us like just give us trauma and instead of pure vanilla becoming truthless Recluse it's us who got corrupted instead because we can't handle it anymore the taunting the voices the overwhelming help us you need to help us from everyone it just took much to handle anymore

I... Didn't expect you to actually give me ideas.

Sorry, I won't make this into the main storyline... But an au. GLUTTONY AU

Not sure if you wanted a fic or HEADCANONS, but I'll make HEADCANONS first. You can ask again if u want fic

MYSTIC FLOUR

Gosh why did this have to happen, you wanted to fight mystic flour the least. She was always so pure, and now she's all about apathy.

Upon reuniting with her she didn't suspect (much) of you, but she did see temperance in you (mystic flour it might seem crazy what I'm boutta say)

You got away with your years of hiding away from society experience and concealed your identity as much as possible. If she did find out it was you, she was sure to keep you to herself and make you succumb to apathy.

BURNING SPICE

You had been helping golden cheese ever since she stepped in burning spice's domain. You had been wanting to help all the ancients in fighting off all the beasts

During the fight he suspected... Nothing. Ever since he became burning spice he was ruthless, actions before words, and didn't give a care to anything else.

You did manage to fight back ever since your last battle with him, his axe was deadly. But you found ways to counter it. He always would strike down if he had enough bloodlust, which is all the time.

SHADOW MILK

Ever since you entered the spire of deceit with the gingerbrave gang, you always felt off. He targeted you the most, because he always knew you were temperance.

He would manipulate you into thinking thou failed all of earthbread, making cookies get killed in the process, he brainwashed you into thinking you were the villain... And it worked.

He mentally tortured you, and he loved it. He was aiming more at you than pure vanilla, he wanted you think turn into sin so bad... What would you be?

Slowly, corruption took over... You were failing your duties, that was true, you left the nation, that was true.... You were the sinner, you were the beast. And it guilted you.

From temperance, the self controlled disciplined virtue. To GLUTTONY, overconsumption of everything. You used to take what you only need, not you only have the feeling to take as much as you want.

How will the gingerbrave gang fight off Gluttony, and Deceit..

[burningcheese-merchant]

I know you're a burningcheese merchant but can we have some hcs or snippets for mysticcacao 👉👈

You don't have to do it if you mind

Popping back in for just a minute to become mysticcacao-merchant, just for you 🫵

They'd probably take things quite slow, mostly due to Flour's shyness and embarrassment (and a bit of honest shame, really. She never thought she'd be shackled by meaningless emotions again, love least of all. But Mr. Tall, Dark and Handsome came and stole not only her Soul Jam, but her heart... truly, life is suffering). But Cacao doesn't mind. He's very much a gentleman (more so than even Pure Vanilla), he will not say or do anything she doesn't want him to and respects her boundaries with zero complaint. (He's a bit nervous and uncomfortable for a while, too, so she's not really alone there lol)

They end up doing a lot of activities together where they don't really talk. Lots of long walks through the mountains, many games of Go, even meditating together (first they sat a ways away apart from each other, then when they became comfortable enough, they started sitting back-to-back). The silence doesn't bother them at all; they're both the sort of person who appreciates quiet moments like that, and they don't necessarily need to talk to understand each other.

He once gave her his coat to wear (the one that's part of the "Vanquisher of the Two Dragons" costume) because he noticed she was cold. Later, when it was time to part ways, he asked if she wanted to hold onto it. She said no. He reached for it and got slapped really hard with her ribbons. This happened several times before he got the message and just went home without it lol ("why are women like this", he wondered to himself)

She's not that far from him height-wise (5'9'' vs 6'1'', in my headcanon), so he never has to bend down much to kiss her. (He likes to just get close and press quick little kisses to her forehead)

This moment? In both of their heads?

RENT. FUCKING. FREE.

They went to the Dumpling Soup Hot Springs once and Flour saw Cacao take his shirt off and almost fucking died (he kept his pants on, thank goodness, she would've returned to flour on the spot if he stripped any further than he did)

They exchange letters a lot because Flour refuses to leave Beast-Yeast and Cacao can't visit her often (he has a kingdom to run and bad guys to fight). Flour arranged for a bird native to her mountain to be the one to come and go with letter deliveries, since it's very tough and would remember how to make the journey. Cacao keeps her letters in a box hidden somewhere in his room, Flour keeps his tucked on a shelf in her study in the Ivory Pagoda. They both really like each other's handwriting/calligraphy

Their kisses are almost always quite chaste. Flour is too hesitant to ask for more and Cacao will not push unless she explicitly asks for it... but they both want it lol. It's just a matter of Flour learning to be bold and allowing herself to indulge her own wants

They're able to get along a lot easier than the other Ancients and Beasts might because they already aren't that different from each other. Both are very calm, disciplined, serious people who tend towards stoicism and asceticism (or just rejection of base wants and desires in general). They just get each other right away, after putting away the "mortal enemies" thing haha

Cloud Haetae is really jealous of Cacao in the "kid is jealous of the man their mom is dating because they're scared he'll take her away and she won't love them anymore and the kid doesn't know better" sort of way. Cacao demonstrates his surprising skill with animals, dogs especially thanks to the cream wolves (Haetae is not a dog but it works anyway lol), and wins the little guy over pretty fast lol

[thesparkledash]

You’re so real for the last reblog. While I do think that Burning Spice just being bored is also pretty cool I can’t deny that Devsis kind of fucked up in giving him some nuance unlike all the other beasts. All we really get is him screaming “how much longer do I have to endure this” because he can’t stand the constant boredom of seeing the same thing happen over and over.

I always think what would happen if Burning Spice Cookie really did destroy everything, how would he look at himself and the world. I see him in despair over the fact that now there really is nothing left to do, nothing left for him to change, and the very tide he tried to steer for himself has run dry. Nothing left for him but a burning world of his own actions and at first he’s happy that something has finally changed, he’s made an impact on history in the way he wanted. But now there’s nothing left, nothing but him. All he can do now is scream in the agony of knowing that he’ll be there in an unchanging world for the rest of his days until he makes the ultimate change in taking himself out, but what would that accomplish? Leaving an unchanging world in his wake? He couldn’t do that to himself, it’s too painful. But to try and fix it, to give Abundance to the world once again is just a painful reminder of how he used to be and he couldn’t do that either. Either scenario is awful. So he’s left wandering the world forced to see it never change and never see a cookie, a kingdom, a civilization be born, grow or wither ever again.

Sorry that got kind of crazy skjakjsjan

Ngl my only issue with the “he wasn’t just bored” argument is that it always feels like it’s justifying what he (and honestly the other beasts) are doing. I’m all for “the witches fucking sucked and were horrible with the beasts”, but i feel like it’s always ignoring that the beasts were the ones to make the choice to fall and turn to the dark side. Nobody forced Burning Spice to turn into a genocidal maniac and nobody forced Shadow Milk to start telling lies and creating chaos. The Beasts had their reasons for doing those things but those reasons aren’t excuses and I don’t like how some people (not here, mostly on reddit) act like the beasts having tragic backstories gives them full permission to commit horrible crimes. It doesn’t. If anything it’s an argument about how the Beasts were possibly always unworthy of the soul jam because their counterparts, the ancient heroes, went through similar horrific events and didn’t become super mega evil. Even though GC pretends otherwise, the heroes want the betterment for all cookies. The beasts do not.

This is really long I’m sorry 💀 I just never liked the “oh they’ve got baggage therefore their war crimes are okay” thing in fandom.

Oh, I completely agree that they could've given Burning Spice more depth. Or at least, made it a bit more clear, again considering how many people thinks he was "just bored"

And for me personally, I don't think them having tragic backstories is an excuse. But it does show us that their not pure evil or anything and that perhaps there is a small possibility that they could be redeemed? Especially with Mystic Flour, even if the stuff she did was obviously horrible and inexcusable, it was still mostly rooted in a desire to end everyone's suffering, so I don't think she's a lost cause or anything

As for "the ancients went through similar horrific events and didn’t become super mega evil". No, they didn't, but let's be real here, that was also partly because they have close friends who look out for them. If Pure Vanilla didn't send that letter to Dark Cacao he would problably still be isolating himself in the citadel and ignoring all the problems outside of it. Pure vanilla admitted himself that if his friends weren't there then he would've actually become a cookie of deceit in the yoghurt river. And sure Golden Cheese didn't turn evil after losing her kingdom, but imagine if that happened like 10 more times. Would she still be okay then?

[fae-cookie-run-madness]

So just saw your what if post and this is a small drawing idea.

Basically when Dark Choco slowly started to give into Apathy,the light of Volition realised that they lost the child to the literal source of his powers (not sure if it's possible to tell but I'm hoping and guessing the lights of the Soul Jams can still sense the souls of the children their holders made).

And now they have to break the news to their holder.

Volition : Hey Mystic Flour

Mystic Flour : Yes light of Volition?

Volition : I need you to answer a hypothetical question

Mystic Flour : Pardon?

Volition : What if hypothetically speaking that Dark Choco may or may not have inherited the power of Apathy from you

Mystic Flour : What

Volition : And is slowly losing hope and may or may not becoming the new holder of Apathy because I might be loosing my connection to his soul?

Mystic Flour : WHAT!?

Also another two funny art ideas,

1- Tied to Fate : During the ancient awakenings, Mystic Flour and Burning Spice 'Oh shit I fucked up', Shadow Milk (I actually do know that to put here so yeah maybe 'Fine I'll join you in enlightenment'?) while Eternal Sugar 'Oh shit she got hotter'

2 CoB : Monthly Soul Jam meeting (just an idea that the Soul Jam lights aren't all just connected to their well Soul Jams and live in a different plane of reality like the spiral.

Knowledge : So how has everyone been doing?

Change : Pretty well actually

Abundance : Yeah everything in the digital realm is well just a few glitches here and there

Knowledge : Okay and Truth?

Truth : He's still alive and has gone under the name Healer Cookie

Passion : Healer Cookie,Really? You'd think the holder of the light of truth would come up with a better name

Truth : Oh shut it Miss Mysterious Huntress

Passion : Hey-

Happiness : Now now dears let's all take a deep breath and calm down for a bit

Knowledge : Thank you Happiness.How are things on your end?

Happiness : Well Sugar has left the kingdom due to the power of Sloth getting a hold of her as well as leaving her new daughter to her son's care as his and his wife's kid due to their actual child being taken by a dragon

Knowledge : Okay...Um Solidarity , Freedom how are the status of your holders and their children?

Freedom : Well White Lily is still asleep but I have not been able to sense the triplets since my powers are still weakened in Earthbread

Solidarity : Well Salt has been doing okay

Knowledge : And the kids, Solidarity?

Solidarity : Still in the time bubble shield...

Knowledge : *Sighs* At least the kids are okay.

Resolution : Yea indeed isn't that right Volition

Knowledge :...The fact that Resolution is speaking right now with that tone suggests that something has happened to Dark Choco and I am hopping that it isn't as bad as it is.

Volition : Okay I may or may not have suggested to Dark Choco to leave the capital to prove their parents wrong.

Knowledge : This is already sounding like a bad idea

Volition : And he might have came back with a sword containing an evil entity,that controlled him to attack Dark Cacao...

Every lights (-Resolution) : ... WHAT!?

Knowledge : Volition why the hell would you even tell him to do that the kid can barely see!?

Truth : Especially in the dark!

Volition : I'm sorry it's just the kid was literally being sheltered by his parents and I just wanted to give him a little push.

Resolution : You mean one that caused him to accidentally acquire a curse sword attack his father, run away and triggering the power of Apathy-...

Volition : ...

Every Light : ...What

Bonus :

In a future meeting (I'm pretty sure this is getting to long so I'll short form it)

Change and Abundance : So Rich Cheese just ran away

Knowledge : Great first we have a part of White Lily becoming Dark Enchantress,Salt sealing their kids into a time bubble in witches knows where,Pure Vanilla sealing his kingdom into a time loop trapping Milk alongside their other kids will himself having amnesia, Golden Cheese creating a virtual world causing rumours that her kingdom is completely destroyed and that republic is trying to steal from them,Hollyberry going missing, Sugar's powers of Sloth resurfacing causing her to leave back to her paradise,her daughter taking the place of their granddaughter who was kidnapped by a dragon with said daughter running away years later,Dark Choco having found a curse sword, attack his father,self banishment and having the power of Apathy and is currently being controlled by the Cookies of Darkness,A civil rebellion is happening within the Dark Cacao kingdom and now this

Change and Abundance : ...Yes...

Knowledge : This can't get any worse...

Solidarity : GUYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM A WITCH JUST FOUND THE TRIPLETS AMD IS ABOUT TO REBAKE THEM

Knowledge : ... Witches kill me-

Ok just wanted to say I love all these ideas, the Lights basically acting like gossiping grandparents to their idiots lights as everything goes to crap are perfect ideas.

However I need to figure out designs for them and how to actually separated them (so like how Truth looks different from knowledge and all that), so I need to work on that.

I did some sketches though, I don’t do expressions enough

I’ll definitely save the idea of the lights and how to work with them later.

Maybe also do some sketches of the children sense there are some changes.

[nutterzebutters]

Yk now that we got a taste of shadow milks true intensity due to the new CRK trailer today I think it's safe to say that behavior is exactly why pure vanilla had to go through 12 whole trials, or at least a good damn reason. Knowledge governs the principles of being able to do something, and therefore governs the nature of the virtues, similarly truth governs over the nature of the lights the ancients inherited, bc without it you really can't achieve the true form of these lights; to be in tune enough to actually carry the soul jams.

A jam so powerful that it can fold the mind of a cookie literally baked for it in half and then some, a principal so encompassing that it's only natural for it to be the worst offender when something goes wrong, and the brightest light when things go right. I believe you can also use the word "polarity" and slap "extreme" in front of it and it would fit the description of this seemingly clover shaped gem.

Now I haven't checked the ep 9/10 story as of recent, I'm sure it's since changed, but at a very early point in the runtime of this game dark enchantress cared about that jam the most. The rest were like bonus powers, trophies next to the big one. The light of truth in particular was quoted to be the one that would help her mold the world in her image (which I'm sure is one of the reasons she's reviving the beasts, is if she can't get PVs she might as well try for shadow milks while the beasts help her create that perfect cookie business) and I hope they haven't forgotten about that.

Also would like to add voice acting is done with multiple takes, for the purpose of finding the correct tone, empathsis, what have you. It's one of the reasons games like CRK will go back and work on the story of earlier chapters, and in Odyssey clotted cream purposely empasized that against Holly and cacaos jams, pure vanillas didn't seem to share many common properties other than what made it a soul jam like it's kin, and likely still doesn't share properties with cheeses in any real regularity. Freedom can be arguably like truth and it's interesting to see how these lights tend to reflect their previous natures regardless of the purity process. Even going as far as to select cookies that share the same traits, or are prone to the same mistakes as the beasts, the only difference is that these cookies have the tools, the experience to push through while the beasts really didn't.

I don't actually have any predictions, usually I would. Ik that I would like to see some conflict with wind archer that does NOT prevail or save the day and it does seem likely he's either going to fall, no message sent

He's going to fall, but at least the message is on its way to the others

Or he does get out (which wouldn't make for a very fun plot point tbh)

The trailer for those who haven't gotten to it yet

[sammywolfgirl]

Ok mostly for a fun brainstorm exercise i played with an ideas of throwing my beast/ancient ocs into some aus I think are neat.

Bla bla this is just for fun idk if I’ll do anything else with these pitch’s that being saiiid

Staring with @cuppajj beast ancient au. We have marshmallow fluff who becomes the beast of transformation. Basically seeing all her friends fall to corruption shatters her hope in humanity (cookie kind?) and she says screw it and becomes a witch in the woods. Just a total recluse. She’s basically taken over the woods her little cabin is tucked into, and since she’s given up she’s also using her oven magic for the scary implications it’s always had that she simply was too nice to even consider using her magic to rebake other living things aside from herself. She’s not above that anymore.

They say those who seek out the witch of the woods never return as they once were… if return at all. And the forest surrounding her home is always crawling with beasts and monsters…. Though on the flip side she’s definitely not involved in whatever plot is going on. Real going off the grid energy.

As for what her beast counterpart is up to uh… assuming she’s been made by then she’s just exausted. God damnit what do you mean there’s more beasts? Motherfucker now she’s got even more work to do! Melody extract planned on stealing and then destroying thr beasts soul jam because of her own plan, now there’s more beasts. So she’s probably plotting to just go scorched earth and destroy *all* the soul jam. Clearly nobody can handle this amount or power so best to just get rid of it. Couldn’t tell you how well that’s going to work out but at least Fluff isn’t going after her.

Oh uh as for um her beast name? Uh… Brambled Fluff Cookie? Idk.

Anyways next one!

@fishymom-art Fix a beast au! I have more thoights on this idea. Basically uh when the beasts soul jam got reclaimed(?) melody extract was like “oh okay my job is done here” and just shatters her own soul jam before it can be taken. She for one wanted them all to loose their power so this works out great. Unfortunately they weren’t receptive to her help so she left them be. Then shadow milk came up with the redemption plan and yeah she’s in, she doesn’t even care If it’s a trick she genuinely wants a quiet life.

She’s assigned to marshmallow fluff cookie, and frankly it’s probably the most civil. Melody is an artificial beast so she hasn’t done much in terms of war crimes and she also remembers her past mortal life. At most she needs a little therapy for trauma but she’s a very pleasant guest in Fluffs house. She helps around and is all too willing to put herself to work. She wants to help support her friends but well if they don’t want her help she won’t force it.

As for fluff she’s more worried about how her friends are doing, she was all for the redemption plan, she believes in second chances, however she understands the hesitance. Perhaps she’s lucky to be assigned the ‘nicest beast’ she worries about pure vanilla the most… anyways melody just spends her time writing plays and manuscripts and helping out fluff with whatever she’s doing. Sometimes she tells stories of the beasts in the past, fluff sometimes shares stories too.

Idk what happens when shit goes down with pure vanilla havent thought that far but uh yeah.

This was a fun exercise warmup thing

[thecertifiedboykisser]

I'm not sure if people are still talking about this but I saw some people being confused on how mystic flour is in the cocoon and not the tree and I think the 'forks' or the beasts prisons, in the first trailer weren't all in one area.

For context, at the end of chapter two of beast yeast, white lily seals the tree back up, trapping shadow milk cookie again. I saw a few posts saying that if lily sealed it how has mystic flour been in the cocoon for so long?

I don't think the witches were stupid enough to put all the beasts in one area. If the worst-case scenario happened and the beasts got free (like is happening now) It would be easier to manage if they weren't together. They could cause a lot more damage even to a smaller area together than if they were apart.

As shown below, the tree was almost in the center of the prisons, a way to hold them together and keep them locked away.

I think that the tree was just Shadow milk's prison, no one else's. The way he popped out of the tree at the end of chapter one makes me think he was actually in there, but I think I was only him.

A lot of people made the connection that he has attachments to the blueberry yogurt (?) Academy, the school that while Lilly and PV went to. I don't think he lived in beast yeast but in Crispia, so they didn't have a place they could store him thus, into the tree he goes.

But that tangent over, Mystic flour was most likely trapped by the witch's in her cocoon, but cloud haetae cookie said she entered it, so I'm thinking that A- She was lying to them, or B- she made it for herself and entered and the witches were like "Fuck yeah, she did it for us" and just kinda kept her from getting out by attaching it to the tree.

But, the cocoon was empty besides the giant enemy spider. Mystic flour wasn't there! I have two theories. A- That was mystic flour, or more like what she became. She talks so much about the cycle, and I don't think she's immune to it. She said she was almost there but didn't reach it. I think she turned into that spider in the cocoon. Bugs normally enter cocoon for a while to transform into something new or better.

(Side note, I'm not really taking much that mystic flour cookie said in the story but more focusing on what actually happened. Not the dialog, and I think she's at least partially unreliable as she's trying to convince DC all I'd futile.)

Or theory B- Her dough was taken to the tree, but her spirit and power were left there. If that makes sense, (her dough wasn't with her soul jam or actual soul.) She made the spider for whoever tried to open it up or (the more likely one) as a lure to DC after doing a plauge be apon ye to him.

The beasts are awoken but not free yet. They can create chaos and issues for the ancients to get them to go to beast yeast but they are still trapped in there prisons. The seal kept them from going actively but the damage was already done. They want to be free and they want there powers.

Also the seal probably sustained heavy damage even after it was fixed by white lily. Sure she fixed it but I doubt it's at full strength, allowing the chains a bit of slack in a way.

Though, this is all just theory's and me putting together parts of the lore to make this with my Sorta good media literacy skills. We will probably find out more next update!

Tldr- The prisons are in different areas of beast yeast, Shadow milk was probably trapped in the tree himself, Mystic flour cocoon was her prison and the spider may have been her or just a way to rid of DC if he didn't sucum to flour, the beasts aren't physically in the world yet but can still do things.

[quibbs126]

So these were the original traits of the Soul Jams, as well as who they corresponded to, and then what they turned into when they became Beasts

I’m gonna be honest, outside of Knowledge and Deceit, I’m not entirely sure how those second ones are vices of the original virtues. Like, I feel like Volition and Sloth, as well as Happiness and Apathy would make more sense, right? At least if I have their definitions down right. And I’m not sure how Silence is the corruption of Solidarity. But ah well

And so I was wrong about how the Soul Jams work and how they change traits; it isn’t that they change traits depending on the worthy user who now wields it, rather the traits we see now are the purified part of the original traits. But it said nothing about the color change

So my guess is that if they were to change to a new wielder, the trait would stay the same, but the color might change

And so this tells us that the Ancients earned their Soul Jams through whatever means, likely individually, and I assume they got them soon before they became rulers of their respective kingdoms/when their nation was founded

Still doesn’t say when they got their Soul Jams in relation to if they had already met or not, but ah well. Based on what information I can gather though, Pure Vanilla and White Lily at least likely already knew each other back from their days in the Blueberry Magic Academy, though I can’t say whether they knew the other three by that point or not

[sunseed-fandump]

owo! Now i wanna know what the bad batch think about the ancients individually, (mostly dad vanilla, he’s gonna be so stressed)

Hollyberry Cookie The kids had actually plotted to try stealing her Soul Jam first, as her son and daughter-in-law had already gathered a good portion of the Soul Jam’s fragments. Thus, Wild Strawberry Cookie reluctantly entered the Princess Contest in an attempt to get close to the shield and snatch it during the ball. (She actually got really far!) Unfortunately, the Dragon went berserk and the Lost Queen-mother returned to her Kingdom and took up her shield once more.

While Gingerbrave enjoys the general rowdiness of the country itself, he can’t help but wonder why the royal family even bothers ruling if the Queen-mother and its fair princess are never around. King Royal Berry Cookie is a total pushover and Queen Jungleberry Cookie is competent, but even she can’t hold an entire country together by herself. From the kids’ outlook, the Hollyberry Royal Family value their power over others and take it and their subjects for granted. Clearly, a family can’t be that good if they’re always abandoning each other, and a ruler can’t be that good if they’re constantly leaving their kingdom behind. Wild Strawberry especially does not appreciate the seeming lack of loyalty.

Dark Cacao Cookie He’s definitely the biggest tyrant in the kids’ opinions, due to his country’s strict traditions and laws. They saw how he was letting his country wither in favor of bolstering the Wall, and weren’t impressed with the many ruined villages they saw. Combine that with his habit of social exclusivity towards outsiders, Dark Cacao hasn’t exactly painted the best picture of himself.

Even though he’s since taken up his sword once again and has rid himself of Affogato’s influence, the kids still don’t regard him highly. After all, what kind of king restricts his own soldiers from eating sweets?! He’s depriving his people!!! And he calls THEM evil? Ridiculous. Unfortunately, their plan to steal the Soul Jam was sabotaged by Licorice Cookie and Pomegranate Cookie’s interference, what with calling forth the horrors of the Licorice Sea and Pomegranate cursing the King. However, Dark Choco earned a few points with them by leaving Dark Enchantress behind.

Golden Cheese Cookie It doesn’t matter if greed is considered a good thing in her kingdom, Golden Cheese Cookie is so terribly selfish! Their trip to this Kingdom infuriated Gingerbrave, who views her actions as no better than his Witch. He’s been broken to pieces and brought back over and over, and sees the Golden City as a twisted version of what happened to him on a massive scale. How dare she not allow the dead to rest. How dare they have to be subjected to a fake reality at the whim of a self-proclaimed goddess, just because she’s too childish to mourn and move on.

And what would she do to those who acted against her? Reprogram them? Erase them? Well the kids definitely saw how well Smoked Cheese’s attempt at a coup went. Even now, she refuses to let “her” cookies go as her Kingdom sleeps in Soulcheeses. Golden Cheese sees her subjects as objects, something to hoard and do with however she pleases; even to deny them the peace of death. Gingerbrave can’t stand her as a result.

White Lily Cookie As the only Ancient to not have an established Kingdom (at least up until the events of Beast-Yeast), the kids didn’t really know what to make of her. At least, that’s until Wild Strawberry informed the boys of who White Lily Cookie eventually became in other timelines, Dark Enchantress Cookie. The so called Hero of Freedom, becoming the very tyrant they’re rivaling within the race to obtain the Soul Jam.

The kids see White Lily Cookie as a weakling and hypocrite as a result, though they remain ignorant as to how she fell to Darkness in the first place. She must have decided the world didn’t deserve true freedom, and turned into a controlling maniac as a result. Thus, they don’t trust her as far as they can throw her.

Pure Vanilla Cookie Hooooo boy PV. The kids are especially prickly with him. Gingerbrave doesn’t like the fact that a single healing spell from the vanilla king could turn him to ashes. Azure Wizard doesn’t like that his Light magic and high skill level allows PV to dispel a lot of his dark spells. Wild Strawberry doesn’t like his gentle demeanor and kind personality, as she thinks it's just a farce.

They had sought out the Vanilla Kingdom to learn its secrets and advanced magical knowledge, and wound up inadvertently mixed up in the Waffle Bot attacks. It was Healer Cookie who had saved them and brought them back to the Raisin Village for treatment. Despite the villagers’ clear distrust and distaste for the kids, it was Healer who defended them and allowed them to stay. It wasn’t until he was revealed to be Pure Vanilla Cookie that the kids grew hostile, as it was his actions during the War that caused a lot of problems.

He strives for “truth” and “happiness” for all cookies. Well, too little too late, in the kids’ opinions. The truth is the world is a deeply hurtful and terrible place, and Pure Vanilla is willingly blind to it. 

Everyone is so quick to sing the Heroes praises, to show them kindness, understanding, and love. Well where was “kindness” when Gingerbrave was treated like a freak? Where was “understanding” when Wizard had to resort to dark magic to save his own life? Where was “love” when Strawberry was abandoned to rot in a random timeline with no way of returning? Where were ANY heroes when the kids called for help?

There’s no such thing as heroes. Just really good liars propped up on pedestals of fool’s gold.

[ponchusjbonchus]

are ancient cookie ocs lame,,,

chilly mint leaf cookie has always hated how the cookie world had no sense of justice, at least in his eye. nobody who wronged him ever seemed to get comeuppance, and it drove him to seek power and “make the world a better place.” he seeked the help of the light of justice , and it embedded itself into him.

he built up his kingdom, where the laws he put in place were to make sure nobody got hurt, and nobody hurt anyone. in his ever-going pursuit of justice, he joined the ancient heroes in the dark flour war and fought dark enchantress cookie. after his soul jam was “destroyed,” he was enraged and horrified. he went back to his kingdom, but it was different. he was no longer a king, he became a cruel dictator. anyone who stepped out of line with his own morals would receive “justice,” and chilly mint leaf watched over everything, ruling with an iron fist.

(i gotta be real i barely know ancient lore guys IM SORRY)

[felixisfruity]

youve entranced me with your cookieposting. i want to know who these fellas are. how do i do that without downloading an app i have 0 space on this device. help. please indoctrinate me these cookies have very cool aesthetics.

WELLLLL YOU HAVE ASKED THE RIGHT GUY! (i hope a lore dump helps)

so! cookie run kingdom is kinda exactly what it sounds like, this guy who i guess is the main character (gingerbrave) and his friends wizard cookie and strawberry cookie escaped from the witches, who bake all the cookies that inhabit the world (earthbread). basically, they start up a kingdom with the help of sugar gnomes, which is where the player comes in!

you get a buncha quests to do things like level up your cookies, fight some battles, etc etc.

but when it comes to actual LORE... you get most of that from world exploration, where there's two contentions (at least, thats what you can go to at the moment): crispia and beast-yeast.

crispia is where you learn about a lot of cookie history, mainly your first discovery of the ancients and some about dark enchantress cookie, the main villain. i dont want to spoil too much in case you ever decide to get the game, but heres a summary:

there are 5 ancient heroes, most of which have their own kingdoms (with the exception of white lily cookie): pure vanilla cookie, dark cacao cookie, golden cheese cookie, hollyberry cookie, and white lily cookie. each of them have soul jams, which are what give them their powers. respectively, their soul jams represent truth, resolution, abundance, passion, and freedom.

this is where beast-yeast comes in. the ancient's soul jams are actually only half of the original soul jams which used to represent 5 virtues: knowledge, volition, change, happiness, and solidarity.

the original soul jams were given to the cookies now known as the beast cookies: shadow milk cookie, mystic flour cookie, burning spice cookie, eternal sugar cookie, and silent salt cookie. over time they corrupted with power and their soul jams became deceit, apathy, destruction, sloth, and silence.

the witches took half of the beasts' power from their soul and they were sealed away, which is when the ancients got their powers. but, eventually, the beasts broke free and wanted their soul jams back from the ancients.

lore for beast-yeast is still releasing, so this is the best i can do without spoiling everything.

that being said, this is all very oversimplified and HEAVILY focused on the ancients and beasts, there are WAYYY too many cookies to cover them all. there are special episodes where we learn about the lore of specific cookies, and more dark enchantress lore is still coming, but we do have a dark mode of crispia where we learn about her followers and a master mode that i havent finished yet so i cant tell you the lore, sorry about that. i could explain lore to my knowledge of specific cookies, but again, theres too many to do them all in one post.

if theres any cookies catching your eye, id love to tell you more about them if you ask again! hope this helps somewhat :)

[burningcheese-merchant]

Alright Merchant! You got me curious- how did the BurningCheese parents and everyone else react to how they were born with souljams?

Does it need to have two souljam owned parents for this to work? Or is it more specific? What do the other Ancients and Ex-Beasts feel? Do the parents (specifically Burning Spice) feel the burdening responsibility to raise them right and help them grow so they won't end up like he did?

(This is my personal interpretation of Burning Spice here: I find it ironic how he was born to hold the light of change, yet hadn't proved anything on how he was able to change for the better. Like he was born specifically to hold the soul jam, but there was literally no one there to guide him on how he should properly handle it. He just poofed to existence, and the Witches gave him Godhood.)

Haha gotcha. Got you to ask. You fell for it, you fool 😈

In all seriousness...

They did NOT know, as a matter of fact. Not for a little while. When they were born, they both gave off a certain... aura. That same one all the Soul Jam wielders have, albeit "softer" (weaker, more faint. Like it's... asleep). Spice and Golden were quite surprised when they first noticed it. Everyone else came by to see, and... Yep, they feel it, too. Now there are TWELVE Soul Jams, not just ten. And these new ones came from an entirely new source...

The way I thought of it is - and yeah, it's cliché af lol - it's a sort of additional aspect to Spice and Golden's union. Not only are they both Soul Jam owners, they own the two halves of the same one. When they made Jack and Paneer (either the cookie way or... the human way lol), their Soul Jams resonated and sort of "helped" in the process by basically handing over a portion of their power to the children. In Spice and Golden coming together, first as lovers and now as parents, the two halves came back together like they were originally supposed to - but within the children, not the parents. Their love enabled them to give their kids a special part of them, both making them more alike and making the kids more unique at the same time. They blessed them, in a way. Please tell me I explained that well, my mind and ideas start falling apart when I don't sleep

Everyone was already excited that their friends were expecting (yay we're gonna be aunts/uncles!!!), but for the kids to turn out like all of them? Now THAT'S interesting. I'd say... Half are excited, half are worried. Excited because they want to see what the children will be capable of when they're older, and what good deeds and legendary feats they'll accomplish. Worried because... that's such a great burden to bestow on literal children. The rest of them were at least adults when they got their Soul Jams, these two got them as literal newborns lol. It's too much power and responsibility. What if it hurts them? What if they end up hurting others? (Dark Cacao feels this way in particular. It comes out a bit wrong/blunt sometimes, but he truly does care and want what's best for the kiddies) Regardless, they all intend to help in whatever way they can. Who can guide/mentor a new Soul Jam wielder than the other Soul Jam wielders?

There's already that standard pressure to raise kids right that exists for all parents. But for THESE parents, with THESE kids... Veteran difficulty lol. Golden Cheese is infinitely more confident, at least for a while; of course she has her fears and insecurities, but far be it from her to let those get to her. That's simply not who she is. She knows she can do it; her subjects are already family to her, in a way, so she can claim some form of family-raising experience (that's her defense, anyway). She and her husband have been through so much... They've suffered and grown, they've made bad choices and learned from them. They are strong and wise. They have friends willing to help them. They'll be great parents, and those kids will grow up to be great people. She's sure of that

Burning Spice, on the other hand... He never really fully overcomes the guilt/remorse he feels about his past, even long after having his change of heart and working long and hard to atone for his sins. Not only does he worry that he personally will fail as a father, but he worries that the kids will turn out the way he used to be. That they'll become Beasts like he did. He worries he's not good enough to prevent that, or be the father they need and deserve in general. He overcomes this little by little over time, both on his own and with Golden's support and encouragement, but it's really something he struggles with

(and yeah, I vibe with your interpretation there! It really just goes to show that the Ancients are the true rightful owners of the Soul Jams. They EARNED them through their own hard work and demonstrations of personal integrity. The Beasts just had godhood handed to them on a silver platter; with this, it's easier to see why they corrupted and the Ancients never did. The wisdom to wield great power comes through experience, which in itself comes from living life; from facing greatness and hardship, feeling joy and anger and sorrow. The Beasts speedran all that, basically. It's sort of a miracle they were as "good" as they were, for as long as they were, because what incentive did they really have to be such? For a better idea of this, try looking through real world mythology and compare the gods that were born gods to gods/godlike beings that earned their power and position through great feats. You'll find that the latter are often much better people than the former haha)

I hope I answered your questions adequately enough 😅 I admit that I want to tinker with and refine the "2 new Soul Jams" idea a bit more, so some details might change in the future and these ones may or may not make full sense lol

[j422m1n3]

Golden Cheese Headcanons

Here are some of my thoughts about the most anticipated ancient (for me at least) to celebrate her upcoming release! I started writing this a bit before any leaks came out so don't expect much about them or her new trailer.

This is a lil over 5300 so enjoy about 19 min of content.

Good stuff over the cut!

What We Know

From the bits that she's shown in the game plus some complementary materials like the art book and the kingdom jelly set in ovenbreak, Golden Cheese Cookie is shown to be just a little bit egotistical 🤏 They have an absurd number statues of herself everywhere, has holidays based off of her practically everyday, and exaggerates their achievements She is also a very organized and meticulous cookie and likes to dictate even the smallest details. She gets pretty upset when things don't go her way or when her work is messed with. She shows this through her interest in fashion (like her controlling the cheesebirds’ looks) and her maintenance of her own appearance I have to assume that her fashion style is just being covered head to toe in gold since the wiki says that she’s so bright that it’s actually hard to even look up at her Of course Golden Cheese Cookie also has an interest in gold in general. And when I say interest I mean she has the “cover your entire kingdom and yourself with it” type of interest She's also not the most honest cookie. She lies about her origins like claiming she came from a golden dragon egg when in reality she just kinda gilded an egg they found. In odyssey, Hollyberry shares that Golden Cheese is secretive and has poor time management like always being late for things Kingdom-wise, it seems like most of her subjects are birds with a few cookies which she freed from Cheedas the Mole (maybe the cookies came after Cheedas defeat?) There is conflicting info on whether or not the birds actually like her or just tolerate her. It’s said that they were eternally grateful for her saving them from Cheedas and so gave her the title of queen but it is also said that she gave herself the title of queen and the birds just let her because she is a source of wealth It's also shown that her castle is a labyrinth and is full of what looks like traps and puzzles Finally, it seems like her nation is extremely technologically advanced and it kinda reminds me of Cyber City from Deltarune.

Their Epic Origin Story

I would like to give some context on how I think the ancients met and got their soul jams because I got this idea in my head that I have no clue where I got it from and I cannot find any info that confirms it. I probably made it up, but just roll with it, ‘kay? The ancients all met on the hero’s path (or something with a really similar name, I think it’s an actual place you visit in game) and worked together to get the soul jams which were at the end of these trials. Which makes sense since these are rocks that give you magical god powers, they can’t just leave this crap out in the open. Afterwards they continued adventuring together for a bit to get used to said magical god powers.

Each of the ancients had their own reason to search for the soul jams (reasons that I just made up and that are based off the stories from the Might of the Ancients) Hollyberry wanted the soul jam to help her best the dragon she’s after as well as unify all of the Berry estates Dark Cacao wanted the soul jam to aid him in confronting the Black and White Dragons and to suppress the spread of an "anomaly” which I’m pretty sure is the licorice oozlings Pure Vanilla wanted the soul jam to help nurse and care for his fellow pilgrims(? I’m not really sure about this one) White Lily wanted to study their power and see if it could be used to make cookies stronger Finally, Golden Cheese wanted them because others wanted them. They heard that there was some legendary treasure at the end that they planned to get before anyone else. She didn’t even know that the soul jams were magical. Golden Cheese was the last to join the group and she didn’t join them immediately since she was distrustful and saw the others as competition. “I was here first so I should get the treasure >:[” She was, in fact, the last to arrive Golden Cheese was super childish back then so they taunted the others whenever the group encountered challenges that Cheese could just fly over and occasionally stole their food. Young Dark Cacao hated their ass and Hollyberry, while still somewhat irritated by their petty acts, kinda found their presence funny. Pure Vanilla didn’t really know what to think of them and White Lily always tried to convince them to join their group using facts and logic 🤓. “Logically, it would be very beneficial for both parties if you agreed to join us since together we could-” “my name isn’t logically >:/” Of course, White Lily eventually succeeded and Golden Cheese joined the party. Maybe Golden Cheese needed their help and realized having people around isn’t so bad or Cheese could’ve started helping them because they had actually grown fond of the others. But of course under a facade of them taking pity on the group or something due to her ego. Things would still be turbulent with them and the group, however, because things can never be that easy >;}. Her ass was not helpful 90% of the time. She had to be bribed or forced into doing stuff in the beginning. White Lily and Hollyberry picked up on how to convince Golden pretty quickly so it wasn’t an issue for too long but during that period of time Golden would just shove all their work onto Vanilla (he just seems like the easiest to manipulate to me). Afterwards, everyone warmed up to them minus Dark Cacao because Cacao can hold one hell of a grudge.

Surprise Dark Cacao HC: He can be petty AF and his toxic trait is that he will bring up mistakes made years ago in arguments.

Cheese would originally just ignore him and maybe even continue to mess with him, but the others would try to get those 2 to be friends or at the very least not at each other’s throats. They both refused, immediately too. Cacao didn’t even let Lily finish her sentence before he said no and then subsequently fucked off. Cheese, on the other hand, was not paying attention and just automatically said no. But Golden Cheese eventually agreed because White Lily bribed her. So Cheese begrudgingly went up to Cacao and apologized, in a very rebellious teen esque way and is clearly not sorry. So then… Dark Cacao doesn’t accept her apology and tells her to fuck off 🫢 but really what were we expecting? Golden Cheese was a little bit pissed that Cacao didn’t accept her apology but she didn’t really care outside of that, she still got paid after all After this epic fail the group just kinda shrugs their shoulders and agree to keep the 2 as far apart as possible. Over time Golden would become less selfish and more willing to help the group, without being bribed to do so! We love character development <3. She would actually become more proactive and really start to care for these weirdos. She would also start to care about how they think of her, especially how Dark Cacao thought of her because he still hated her ✨ So Golden Cheese would try to apologize to him again, on her own volition and sincerely this time …And he tells her to fuck off again 😶 Cheese tries again and again to get his forgiveness and show that she had changed but he got the soul jam of resolution for a reason so he denied them at every step. She couldn’t even actually talk to him because would do a 180 every time he saw her. I guess you can say he gave her… the cold shoulder? Ba-dum-tis (you see, the joke here is that he comes from a naturally cold environment and so his distant demeanor towards cheese is reminiscent of his homeland. The ‘cold’ of his cold shoulder is a reference to its harsh weather. You see-) I deeply apologize for my terrible joke, it will happen again. (I have been consuming too much Cyno content) Literally everyone was like “wow cacao, maybe you should give her a chance” and he’ll be like “no <3” This would ultimately blow up into an argument and because Dark Cacao isn’t known for being tactful with his words (mf is harsher than the cold of his kingdom on godddd) he would end up deeply hurting Golden Cheese. He made it very clear he didn’t trust her ☠️, didn’t forgive her ☠️, and didn’t expect much from her ☠️☠️☠️. After this she threw her hands and went “fuck this I’m out” cause who wants to be around that type of energy? White lily, however, will have none of this and would convince Golden to stay saying that she’ll deal with Dark Cacao. With some persuasion (read: time out in the corner) + some help (read: manhandling) from HollyBerry, White Lily got Cacao to agree to have a proper talk with Cheese. It’ll start awkward and slow but eventually Cacao would ask for the reasons behind Golden’s original antagonistic and trickster behavior and she would then allow herself to be vulnerable with him (aka backstory time).

For her past she could’ve gone through a betrayal akin to what Black Pearl cookie went though. Golden Cheese could’ve from a poor background or straight up just didn’t have a n y t h i n g. No family, no friends, no home, nothing. Just them, the birds, hostile moles, and colorful and shiny rocks that they didn’t know the value of. When Golden Cheese first came into existence, like most babies, they had no idea of the concept of wealth so the gold and jewels that surrounded them in their desert were just neat rocks The first time she actually met with other cookies, they talked her into giving them the treasure and in return they’ll be her friends. Of course she agreed and she searched high and low for the biggest and prettiest gemstones she could find. This would go on for a bit until one day they decide to follow them to a nearby town Where they overheard them showing off her gifts and bragging Bragging about how they got some dumb bird kid to give them so much treasure and how they’re going to get rich off of them Safe to say Golden Cheese changed after that Through that incident they learnt that money was the most important thing to cookies And through money you can get anything you want! Food, clothes, toys,… friends But they didn’t want friends anymore, they wanted riches Gold can’t lie to you, but friends can Jewels can’t use you, but friends can And treasure can do some many things cookies couldn’t Cookies don’t shine or sparkle (outside of her of course) so what the point in talking to them! DNI if you don’t shine and/or sparkle So she hoards wealth because it's the only thing she can trust and really the only thing she has. Her distrust towards others deepened because other cookies tried to trick her and when that failed even outright stole from her. And since she was still a kid at the time they took pretty much everything, forcing her to run away from the sands she called her home. This caused her to become a thief herself so she could get her belongings back as well as some extra for revenge. After that she just continued to steal because in her mind it’s a steal or get stolen from the world out there. And I think Dark Cacao would be able to relate to their loneliness and reluctance to associate with others, hell, Dark Cacao probably refused to work with the other ancients at first too Cacao would then explain that he held onto his grudge for so long because Golden Cheese reminded him of the thieves of his homeland who terrorized towns and who he viewed as selfish and dishonorable scum. But now he can tell that she isn’t like those villains and has proven that she has changed. Thanks to this conversation Dark Cacao becomes a little more empathetic to Golden Cheese’s actions, however annoying they may be With this newfound understanding of each other, the 2 reconciled and Golden Cheese was finally fully accepted as part of the group and into a found family …Which eventually fell apart because someone decided to turn into a terrorist 🙄

Their Possible Update

For this section I won’t be including much from the teaser trailer because I don’t really know how to work with it. So this is just going to be what I hope to see in the update

So both Black Raisin Cookie and Adventurer Cookie made an appearance in the teaser which makes sense, Gingerbrave and friendstm probably was sent to look for Golden for the next Council of Heroes meeting by Vanilla who also sent Raisin with them since she knows how to deal with harsh environments. Adventurer being there also makes sense because it’s the mfing Golden Cheese Kingdom, assumedly filled to the brim with treasure of course he was gonna be there. The real question is where the hell is Chili Pepper? The Cookie I really wanted to see there though was actually Dark Choco! I know he’s in some forest near Dark Cacao Kingdom but just let me have this dammit. Imagine this: Gingerbrave and friendstm are on their way to Golden Cheese Kingdom when they hear some arguing. After following the noise they come across a camp with Milk, Purple Yam, and Dark Choco! Purple Yam is shouting about how they’re lost while Dark Choco’s looking at a map and trying to decide where to go. The two groups start talking and Dark Choco explains how Milk Cookie and Purple Yam Cookie happened to find him. Of course, after realizing that Dark Choco was right in front of him Yam immediately challenged Dark Choco to a rematch and in turn Milk tried to stop him. The pair squabbled for a bit until Dark Choco just gave into Yam’s request so he could get back to his peaceful wandering. Since Dark Choco 1: probably hasn’t been training all the much during his travels and 2: most likely relied on the Strawberry Jam Sword for most of his fights as well as to compensate for his poor eyesight and is now considerably weaker without it, he probably lost the fight. He would then try to leave, completely ignoring Purple Yam’s cheers but then paused in his tracks when Purple Yam brought up their previous fight. Confused, Dark Choco would then explain how he doesn’t remember fighting Purple Yam or saving Milk. This, of course, would piss off Yam (because what doesn’t) and he’d try to think of ways to get Dark Choco to remember and Milk would suggest the idea of bringing Dark Choco into their group. Both immediately said no but Milk easily managed to convince purple Yam by saying that if Dark Choco were to join, Yam could always have a strong sparring partner to fight! Dark Choco, on the other hand, was not as easy. It really just boiled down to Milk giving him his biggest puppy eyes and explaining how Dark Choco was his hero. Dark Choco weighed his options, on one hand he doesn’t really want to be constantly asked to fight but on the other these two dunderheads could be his opportunity for redemption. After a moment, he agreed and now he’s stuck with these two for life. When asked what they’re doing here Dark Choco explains that they’re heading for Golden Cheese Kingdom as well! He knows that Dark Enchantress is going to target the kingdom eventually so he wanted to stop her before she got any stronger. The two groups combine and head to Golden Cheese Kingdom together. As seen in the teaser, Golden Cheese isn’t going to be the most welcoming and I feel like she wouldn’t believe Gingerbrave and friendstm when they explain the situation. Fortunately for her, the situation will prove itself when the Cookies of Darkness show up and start wrecking her shit (betting all my diamonds that this is what is going to happen in the update) After all the inevitable shenanigans, I wanna see Golden Cheese and Dark Choco have a heart to heart. I wanna see Dark Choco share his past with her and explain his journey to redeem himself and I wanna see Golden Cheese comfort her nephew god dammit! Dark Choco deserves a hug and Golden Cheese could give him that! After this interaction Golden will make it her duty to get him and his father to reconcile and what better place to do so than at the Council of Heroes. I wanna see Golden Cheese roll up with Dark Choco, I’d think it’ll be neat.

Leftover Thoughts

This part is just random thoughts I have about Cheese (and some of the other ancients) that didn’t really fit in any previous sections

I think Golden is the youngest out of all the ancients with the order from oldest to youngest being Holly, Lily/Vanilla, Cacao, and then Cheese. As the youngest in the group Cacao and Cheese are legally obligated to be at each other’s throats at all times, especially when they were still all adventuring together. She just brings out his immature side. Golden Cheese would do all sorts of stupid shit to antagonize him like the ‘holding their finger right next to your face but not actually touching’ thing and just repeating his name over and over. Dark Cacao could not just ignore her and took all the nonsense they said at face value. When Cacao retaliates he’s always scolded by the other 3 because Cheese has baby privileges. Since he can’t do anything himself he calls for one of the others, especially hollyberry, for help. This poor woman is so tired dealing with these two. They get into these little scraps at least once a day and one of them will always run up to her to tattle on the other She loves those 2 to death but god damn are they annoying. It had gotten to a point where the second Holly heard those two messing with each other she would hide. They always ended up finding her lmao (if you couldn’t tell, i’m pulling from experience here, lil siblings suck :] Despite her wariness of other people, Golden Cheese is a very curious person and used to be easily distractible She often wandered off on her own and unknowingly into all sorts of danger. More often than not, the other ancients would have to save her from some monster and in the end she’s the only one unscathed. So Holly would use this trait to play small pranks on Cheese. One time she made a trail of coins and pointed out to Cheese who happily picked up each one. Little did Golden Cheese know, her bag had a hole in it so she made her own train of coins. This resulted in Golden Cheese following their own trail of coins for a hot minute while Holly did her best not to laugh. Nowadays that would work so Holly just lightly pokes fun at her. One of the many things Hollyberry would tease Golden about was all the embarrassing things they did in the past Mentions of practically anything Golden did when they were younger is the equivalent of a critical hit to her ego

Surprise Hollyberry headcanon: She makes sure to remember all the embarrassing shit her friends do, she even has a journal filled with them. None of the cookies around her can sleep at night because they can’t be comforted by the fact that no one remembers that they called their teacher mom in front of everybody because Hollyberry remembers and will bring it up eventually. She doesn’t (purely) do this to tease her friends, but to record all the special moments she shares with them. And with some true queen behavior, she writes down all of her embarrassing moments too <3

One of the things Holly would bring up would be how when Golden was a wee baby bird she would always try to get out of paying for things They would do things like purposely leaving their money at home so someone else had to pay for food. (this often ended up with them having to wash dishes or just not being allowed to order because the other ancients saw through her plan immediately. Her ass was not slick) Golden Cheese had a also bad habit of… “taking things off other cookies’ hands“ and had chronic magpie syndrome in their younger years She justified it back then because they thought that they could get better use out of whatever she was stealing from someone But now as a fully fledged bird with a fully fledged wallet, she makes it a point to pay for everything. They love flaunting their riches (it helps them forget her cringefail era) and their favorite way is good ol’ retail therapy. Golden Cheese used to go through the markets of her friends' Kingdoms and buy whatever caught her eye, aka the shiny stuff. She also looks for things that her friends would enjoy like new goblets and cups for Hollyberry, interesting weapons for Dark Cacao, soft quilts and yarn for Pure Vanilla, and interesting and rare ingredients for White Lily to use Another coping mechanism of hers is just looking at stuff. Stuff of the particularly shiny variety (Which includes herself of course) Admiring their possessions, themselves, or themselves through their possessions like their reflection in a comically sized coin The mirror is practically a baby sensory video to her and she will be locked in a trance for an indefinite amount of time.

They also spend hours every day just maintaining their appearance and their possessions Golden has her own way of organizing her riches and she categorizes them all frequently. The “ Cheese Index” as dubbed by Hollyberry They take into account the standard stuff like value, size, and luster but there is one standard that is unique to Golden Cheese, taste This was just dumb elaborate way for me to say that it’ll be really silly goofy if Golden Cheese could taste the quality of precious metals and minerals. The higher quality a gem is, the better it tastes to her but all riches taste pretty good. (During their adventuring days, the other ancients had to set aside some coins just for her to snack on so she wouldn’t accidentally eat all of their funds.) When she’s not doing either of the things above, she is just lazing around, probably on top of a pile of coins which they actually find comfortable If left to her own devices, Golden Cheese could honestly spend days, if not weeks like this because they are just not very time conscious. It is also the reason why they’re usually late to things the other ancients have to tell Golden Cheese to arrive at an earlier time so they’re not absurdly late anymore, like days late When they do arrive, whether they’re late or super late, they are always the shiniest in the room In her younger years and when she was first getting into fashion, she equated beauty with how bright something was which meant that all of her first outfits were ungodly bright and hard to look at. hollyberry still teases them about how they practically blinded everyone and even sent “paintings” of their first outfits

Fortunately for everyone’s eyes, she’s developed a less gaudy style She also had even made clothes for the other ancients because there ain’t no way they’re just gonna leave them looking like that 🫣 They don’t only care about their appearance, but also the appearance of those around them and will make sure their friends are looking their best Dark Cacao was the one she would dress up the most Every time they saw him they would pick apart and analyze every aspect of his outfit like a doctor studying a patient. She’ll be like “oh no… oh dear. it's just what I feared,.. Despite the fact that your kingdom has an ocean right next to it, it seems like you completely lack any drip whatsoever. I fear it might be terminal 😔.” She purposefully made Dark Cacao’s outfit super gaudy and revealing to mess with him. He refuses to wear it so now it sits in a closet somewhere for Dark Choco to find and have gain a whole lotta questions about what his father was up to in his younger years. When with Pure Vanilla, Golden Cheese would rant about her say. She shared their worries and strife with him and Vanilla would attentively listen to it all while occasionally giving out some advice. I just imagine the pair in Golden’s personal spa (don’t tell me she wouldn’t have one) and Golden venting about her day or them gossiping about whatever was happening in her friends’ kingdoms. Pure Vanilla would be a source of comfort and reassurance to Golden while Dark Cacao (and sometimes Hollyberry) would be a grounding force for her.

Surprise Pure Vanilla Headcanon: Pure Vanilla is a great listener. He usually doesn't add much to conversation unless prompted to and has just a very calming vibe to him. It makes people feel comfortable enough to share whatever's on their mind with him.

Golden Cheese also spends a lot of time tinkering and engineering, how else could her kingdom look like it was taken right out of a sci-fi movie if it wasn’t her doing? This is the main way they and White Lily bonded and spent one on one time together. Just working on their own projects and enjoying each others’ presence (we love women in STEM <3) Another thing they bonded over were puzzles. Golden would create puzzles just for Lily and in kind, she would bring puzzles from other nations for Cheese. Golden loved to see the other 3 struggle with puzzles as well though Cacao refused to touch one after the first time he failed. I think that White Lily would be the only ancient to know where Golden Cheese’s kingdom is, she probably just happened upon it while looking for some resources in the desert The reason why Golden is so secretive about her kingdom is because they doesn’t really view it as a kingdom They did at the beginning but over time she began to grow self conscious about it. Her kingdom is missing one crucial aspect that all their friends’ kingdoms have: Cookies to rule over I believe that the cookies arrived after the Dark Flour war with no basis whatsoever :3 It just fits with the headcanons. (also because I made this part before the teaser dropped) They love the Cheese birds but they do get a little awkward when they hear about the other ancients dealing their kingdoms’ politics (none of which she understands btw) while she just lays around with her fellow birds all day Whenever one of the others asks about her Kingdom she always says that things are going great while also being incredibly vague and leaves out any specific details.

This did lead to Cacao questioning whether or not Cheese actually had a kingdom not helped by the fact that Golden Cheese announced that she had a kingdom after seeing her friends’, but Lily would confirm that her Kingdom existed Whenever Lily came to the Cheese Kingdom she held little check ups on the cheese birds and even help Golden train them Thanks to Lily, Golden Cheese was able to train 4 of her birds to be messengers/carriers for each of the other ancients. Hollyberry’s bird is chatty and mimics words and sounds all the time. It's also the most active out of the birds and very easily led by food. Its feathers are a pretty rose gold color. PV’s crow is a bit grumpy, an angry bird if you will, as well as pretty old. It spends most of its time sleeping and is paler than the average Cheesebird. White lily’s bird is good at foraging and likes to organize things. It’s the smartest out of all the birds due to both Lily and Golden building little puzzles/toys for it. It is also almost completely white with a bit of an opalescent shine. Dark Cacao’s crow likes to collect shiny things and it preens itself pretty often. It also tries to preen cacao and spends most of its time snuggled on his shoulder. It gives everything it collects to him and is a brownish platinum color. The birds were the best way for all of the ancients to message each other seeing how birds are way faster than couriers and how the birds actually knew where Golden Cheese Kingdom is. Before they relied on Lily to send their messages to Cheese since she was the only one to know where she is but the problem with that is that Lily was always on the move.

Surprise White Lily Headcanon: White Lily used to travel a lot for her research. One moment she would be in PV’s kingdom the next she would be in HB Kingdom’s jungles or in Dragon’s Valley.

Unfortunately, all the birds returned to the Golden Cheese Kingdom after the Vanilla’s kingdom was destroyed which was the main reason why all the other Ancients didn’t talk much after the war.

Now this next bit was also written before the trailer dropped but I’ll share it anyway as a lil bonus:

After the war Golden Cheese was inconsolable after Vanilla sacrificed himself and locked themself away in their castle. The messenger birds tried to bring her out but she couldn’t bring herself to face what happened. She lost track of how many days she spent wallowing in her despair but it was long enough for White Lily to become Dark Enchantress. Since Lily, and therefore Enchantress, was the only one who knew where the Golden Cheese Kingdom was, it was the first place Enchantress went. In the state Cheese was in it wasn’t hard for Enchantress to trick them into believing she was Lily and came to check up on them. Enchantress planned on taking Golden’s Soul Jam and sealing her away but unfortunately she underestimated the strength of the kingdom's citizens. She didn’t have enough power or time to steal the Soul Jam and seal Golden away so she decided to seal Golden with her Soul Jam. This way Golden wouldn’t be able to warn the others of Enchantress’ return, and besides, she could always come back later. Golden Cheese was sealed away in a golden statue that looks exactly like the ones littered throughout her kingdom, unaware of what White Lily had turned into. …Until Gingerbrave and friendstm showed up.