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it frankly pisses me off that what is essentially ârapists and abusers should be depicted as monstrous caricatures because humanizing them is inappropriateâ is considered a very moral and enlightened position to have on art by so many people. a rapist can feel pain, have moments of vulnerability, be amiable and charming, express remorse and compassion at times, be a victim themselves, and so on in real life. they are even capable of doing good things. they can have different sides to them and have individuals in their lives that they are kind to or have a decent relationship with. they will be a human being, and that fact encompasses a lot. conflating that with the claim that they are entitled to and deserve forgiveness or absolution is an issue. nurturing a mindset that believes they need to be one note and uncomplicated to be a correct and tasteful depiction of a rapist inadvertently falls in line with the logic of âhow could they have possibly raped you? they are so normal and kind to me. they did all these good things here and there.â ok that doesnât change that they are a rapist.
#and its always said by fiction affects reality warriors ok this affects victims bc they will have doubts about their abuse and#about their own abuser because they are not the boogeyman#there was this pretty heartbreaking post by an abuse survivor who put this into words#its one of those things where it feels like the intention is good but it does more harm to victims than the perpetrators really#im not saying its impossible to have a tasteless depiction of a rapist but u guys just project that idea onto shit where it doesnt apply#if something explores the reality and consequences of their actions and the impact on the victims without downplaying it or ignoring it#then this critique just holds no water to me#idgaf if they r humanized ive seen their actions and just because they have a solitary other dimension doesnt mean i feel pressured#to forgive or absolve them lmao?#(as in the piece of art in question is not advocating for that)#cw rape
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#do you know how sick she makes me#do you know how miserable I am about her#sheâs my favourite girl#Anya Iâm so sorry I promise I will draw you chilling on a beach soon#mouthwashing game#mouthwashing anya#mouthwashing curly#my art#tw rape#tw sa
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Mini rant below and in the tags, the only time Iâll talk about this and my personal take on it.
The way people talk about hypothetical male Anya on Twitter and the idea of how Mouthwashing would play out if the genders were swapped makes me remember how people still donât take sexual assault and rape with male victims with the same gravity, especially when the perpetrator is female.
#not even gonna tag this cause I donât want to start discourse in the tags but you can absolutely still explore the concepts of patriarchy#toxic masculinity misogyny and rape culture if the genders where swapped#like those concepts donât disappear just because Anya is a boy now cause you have to think of all the ways it applies to male victims and#I just donât understand why people keep getting angry when people facilitate different discussion the game opens you up to#like yes I get the frustration with not seeing the conversations you want but start them go find them why complain on other posts when#people are bringing attention to similar issues and the ways they are overlooked dismissed or blame the victim#I for one think we should have more basic clarifying conversations of SA rape cultures and how toxic masculinity and sexism create scenarios#like the Tulpar and enable men like Jimmy but I also can understand and enjoy the topic being expanded upon to include other cases on a#flipped scale like yes how male centered the fandom is is annoying considering the topic but seeing comments saying that SA isnât as harmful#to men cause they canât get pregnant is a whole can of worms you really need to unpack cause holy shit#like in this scenario if Jimmy is pregnant and canât get rid of the baby Anya is the father yes Jimmy is pregnant but thatâs because in this#swap she assaulted a man lied to either say it was consensual he forced himself on her or like canon panicked and semi admitted to forcing#him either way he is afraid to do anything because men do get blamed for defending themselves against women in these situations not to#mention the shaming that occurs because he is a man and should step up for the kids sake and likely be told he should be proud a girl wanted#him that much like yes you have to explain it more but bodily autonomy in this scenario is just as nuanced and I canât believe I have to#defend something being male centered in a game where the rape of a woman is the catalyst just because people are saying SA for men#is not as damaging or degrading or harmful to autonomy as it is to a woman like how can you want conversations on rape culture and shut down#people bringing up other nuances in the conversation#like people are gonna jump around with it I know but if you only want to talk about one thing stay in that sphere like I just donât get#going to another space especially one that isnât even being weird or toxic and starting shit cause you donât like it like the amount of#unnecessary and mean comments on normal art of think pieces Iâve seen on Twitter is crazy like itâs stupid callout shit for the sake of just#not liking something like Iâm seeing so much screen shotting and vague posting like just at the bitch and fight about it like itâs still a#relatively small fandom ur just asking for in fighting on like the few things we shouldnât have to worry about#as a victim my self and who has been in other situations and being afab I just canât understand the vitriol toward this sort of discussion#mouthwashing#actually I will tag this cause you can explore the themes in mouthwashing still stop being freaks and just block bitches ong
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you know sometimes people bemoan about how historical gays used to have a lot more drama and a lot of the time there's this implication that the various interpersonal dramas and sexual tensions and feuds in various literary salons or artistic circles were a reason for or an engine for creation and i myself have absolutely fallen into that same trap of just being like, well, all these complex and fraught relationships must have driven something
but looking back in retrospect, having extricated myself from a developing cult situation borne of what was before a somewhat messy polycule, where genuinely not out of evil but out of simply being like... mentally and emotionally traumatised by past abusive patterns, several people were explicitly and openly denying the reality of certain abusive behaviours in favour of maintaining the status quo, or were outright rejecting things like "let's talk explicitly about our needs and our feelings" in favour of more psychosexual games that involved like. thinking sometimes that one or more people involved would outright try to kill them
i know that for some people there's a big draw in a certain derangement or nonconsensual masochistic cruelty to their intimate relationships, and that for some people, a response to trauma is to only really feel invested or engaged with relationships that feel to some extent dangerous, and that relationships that feel "safe" in fact paradoxically feel very threatening or overly demanding in their stability
and i'm not one of those people, turns out.
this whole situation really hasn't been pyschologically good for me, and what's more, it's not even been creatively good for me. so what the fuck was the point in all that
#musings#being abused and raped or whatever has made me like. soooo funny and creative and whatever#but it's like. well i already got that xp#so i really don't need to be packing on more psychological trauma on top#and it turns out when i'm fuckin battling this absolute nonsense IRL#and having to sort of. fuss over an abuser that ppl are choosing to maintain contact with and tiptoe around his feelings#that it takes valuable time and emotional width from what i actually care about which is... my art
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uncensored dialogue. might shift the tone of this.
leo ends up regretting teaching raph cope jokes after he needs to draw a diagram of what the hell turtle penises look like to help him deal with the fact he had no idea what he was even dysphoric over. yeah he's 16 when he learns that.
the penis envy is a big thing for him. for obvious reasons.
#art#cw rape#cw csa#cw incest#i guess?????#jsut in case??? like its not im just like. you know its very much just them talking about their own bodies#but also their whole situation is fucked#but theyre literally coping theyre alright here nothing actually happened here#leos just like. god hes gonna be a new kind of annoying.#idk how canon this conversation even is anymore but its literally the first thing i ever drew for it
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So-called Christians still whining about the Olympic opening ceremony supposedly "insulting Christianity", but none of them gave a fuck about Israel bombing the oldest Church in Gaza months ago.
#palestine#free palestine#israel#olympic games#I think destroying a church with people inside is worst but who am I but a french leftist raised by a christian man???#nah I'm so done with them whining#also they are awful to the artists by telling them they deserve the rape and murder threats they are getting#reminders that Christianity is against idolizing representation and that christians did all that âsexualizing religious figuresâ first#like they used to masturbate on statues of saint for fertility... as an example#christian arts has been diverted A LOT in history especially the last supper you must be sooooooo ignorant to whine about that
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Every time I catch wind of that bitch being a freak again I am reblogging every callout I can get my hands on. Keep being a clown and I will make sure people keep laughing at you
#oh waaaaah why are you targeting me?!?!?#My mental illness is making me stalk you for two years#and sending rape and death threats to children#and getting revenge cp drawn#and sexually harassing you with inappropriate art of you#and posting garbage online about wanting to kill and defile you#but it's my bpd how dare you not shut up and let me use you as a punching bag?!?!?!#stop bitching#go to a hosplital or go to jail#Damn near everyone I know has something going on in their head and they ALL know you are a freak and that's not why you are like this
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i think honestly what irritates me about yoshidas work SO much is that people will tell you that banana fish is THE gay manga (ignoring the many things that came before it and were more groundbreaking, ie MW literally having on screen (or like. on panel but still.) gay sex in it and that came out like a decade before BF did) when there really isn't barely any gay rep outside of the pedophiles and the one time ash drops the f slur. like im sorry but somehow yasha, a work she wrote in 1996, has more gay rep in it but also has the same issues.
i truly do not get how people can enjoy banana fish with the rampant racism every 2 pages or the rampant sexual assault plotlines (on women and ash bc he is just... written like how yoshida writes women lmao) that are handled IMPOSSIBLY bad and sincerely i hoped yasha would be better because it had been like a decade or so between works. and then it proceeds to continue with the heres our blonde genius protagonist who everyone is weird as fuck to and will sexually harrass and everyone finds it a VERY funny joke to point out how feminine he is when theres barely any women in the work (if you exclude the ones that are being raped/killed/creepy to minors. which to be fair yasha has toned down the sa a LOT) and that its funny that hes kind of gay except not really!! and its just absurd to me how it just persists in all of her stuff because she is not an author that handles gay stuff well. like the scene in banana fish where ash is completely ok getting gang raped and did it solely to get into the hospital when its been SHOWN that he has a lot of trauma with that. and then right after his friend makes a joke at ash's expense about that. like sincerely and genuinely is this what we are hyping up as the old retro gay manga. go read some tezuka and stop reading shit that the most the main characters do is share a kiss in a nonromantic sense and is obsessed w making every gay person be evil!!
#twist rambles#sorry mw u will always be famous to me (horrible fucking manga to experience for like 50% of the time but also it rocksss and theres#about anything tw worthy in there but i wish more ppl did read it)#sorry im like. i like to read her stuff bc her art is interesting to me but oh my god it makes me so angryyyy#rape mention#ask to tag#like... you do not understand my one sided rivalry w her it is SO intense like... bf was one of the worst reading experiences ive ever had#my tzk gay recs are: black jack (protag literally has a transmasc ex bf) and mw (for aforementioned reasons but its like. genuinely bonkers#and honestly there r a lot of minor characters that r lgbt in his works and like. can we please read smth that doesnt suck 100% of the time#like idk god bf is so baffling to me bc theres NOTHING there other than like. the new horrors every chapter. and yasha seems to be reusing#some plot points so it double sucks. haunted by the one analysis showing how the two had similar themes and point 1 was literally child#exploitation like... man. god it sucks. like not that mw is perfect bc its not and its a media i have a lot of thoughts on but man. id take#that over bf anyday bc like... sincerely how is anyone looking past the horrors there!! the story is a jumbled mess and it rly doesnt have#much to sayyyy but whatever lol!! id love if the characters were in a better media id love if ash didnt end the story feeling positively#towards the man who groomed him but whateverrrr lol#this is super disorganized as a post but like. genuinely it is so infuriating bc some of the plot concepts in yasha have potential and then#she keeps doing this like!!
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Can they jump
#I donât talk badly about other ppls art but manâŠâŠ..#you played/watched gameplay of a game about taking responsibility for your actions/holding yourself accountable/ rape and you draw the#victim like thisâŠâŠâŠ.#like Iâve seen worse but why do ppl always resort to shit like this itâs like you donât care about the stories being told at all you just#want to get off and itâs just??? like this ainât never Anya bro đđđŸ#the hell#rambling#ppl in the comments calling ppl puritans and using the excuse of being surviviors to excuse this bullshit#this is why I donât pay attention to art and content that comes out of nothing I like for the most part now
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Iâm disappointed but not surprised by how some of tumblr treats Mouthwashing (the game).
#I think just too many ppl on tumblr just donât know how to treat media#all they know how to do is pick characters to obsess over and headcanon and write fanfiction about them#they truly just donât know how to treat media that has some more serious topics within it#I was just wanting to scroll through the tag and see discussions of the game or maybe some regular fan art#and yetâŠ.#itâs weird roleplaying and headcanons and I would say even going as far as making light of the themes of rape in the gameâŠ..
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mouthwashing fandom they could never make me like you
#mouthwashing#half of yall just ignore the core of the game#and ship the two most awful men and boil it down to toxic yaoi#or secretly become pro-lifers and make the assult victim keep the baby#oh and yall cannot trigger tag shit for the life of you#the amount of just. untagged debate about rape and stuff?#like while some of the art is wonderful and made by talented people#i just#ugh#abort that thang#jimmy and curly can die they aren't âtoxic yaoiâ#it's a rapist and a his defender#cw rape#cw sa#sa#tw sa
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I made the mistake of looking in the notes of a (good) post made by a big gomens blog about the accusations against Gaiman, and saw two terrible takes on opposite sides of the spectrum.
"Not saying what he did was right, but he just has a 1970s idea of consent." This is just pure bullshit. There's never been a point in time when men didn't understand the concept of consent and violating it for the sake of getting off on feeling powerful; yes, our culture has somewhat changed to take these things more seriously, but abuse and misogyny are not new concepts. You can't say, "but it's just a generational thing!" That just perpetuates rape culture. Abusers are responsible for their own actions. From what I read, he totally knew what he was doing, especially with using his status to have power over women. Full stop.
But that brings me to the next one...
2. "By continuing to engage with his works, you're continuing his celebrity and potentially enabling future assaults." I'm sorry, but it is ridiculous to say fans of a book or TV show are to blame for a man assaulting women, and furthermore, I'd guess that the tumblr gomens fandom is smaller than the overall group of normie, offline fans of his works around the globe, so it's not like people on tumblr still making gomens fan art or whatever are the ones solely keeping his works alive. He's been a famous author for decades, and unfortunately, that's not going to change even if everyone on tumblr never talked about gomens again. I do think people in the fandom have a responsibility to stop sharing any of his posts and interviews, stop tagging fun fandom posts under his name, not invite him to any conventions, not defend him, not financially support him, and inform any female fan who doesn't know about this and wants to go to a book signing or something with him in the future. Women need to know it's not safe to be around him. But other than that, if you've completely separated him from your fandom posts on this fringe, dying website, I really don't think you're hurting anyone. What matters in the real world is people knowing what he did, spreading the word, and keeping him away from fans, not if someone is reading one of his books or watching an adaptation of his work.
Anyway, if you're really concerned about sexual assault, please consider supporting an organization like RAINN. That's a lot more productive than any fandom discourse. I saw posts about organizing a fandom fundraising campaign to the organization, which I think is a great idea.
#rape mention /#abuse mention /#sorry I don't want to fill my blog with posts about this#but...can we please be normal#there is a middle ground between creating excuses for him#and saying that people who still enjoy stories he has written are enabling future sex crimes#by that logic then most humans have enabled some wrongdoing in some way#because everyone is a fan of something made by a fucked up person#and I'm not even someone who thinks you can or should always separate the art from the artist#like I said before I think it reeallllly depends on the situation
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i think it's time to retire the word 'problematic' ... like, we need to not use that word the way we've colloquially been using it as an umbrella term for bigotry and other uncomfortable subjects
#like instead of saying 'consuming problematic media' why don't we have the same discussions but say 'engaging with challenging art'#or /something/ anything else#it honestly gives me the same feeling that the 'unalive' etc shit does like let's just be very specific about what we're talking about#if it's rape fantasies if it's stuff that doesn't spell out 'racism is bad' whatever it is ... we get it let's just talk about the merits o#engaging w/creating that kind of art without couching it in all this buzzword language
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Also I remember I saw something that like, someone was saying like 'oh y'all just want Beyoncé to do all the work cause y'all want Black women to head every movement'
Like, let's back up a second. Like do people try to make Black women do all the work whilst sitting back waiting yeah. Do people expect more of Black women than others yes.
But that's not what we're talking about, Beyoncé has not said anything about what's happening in Palestine, Congo, or Sudan. Her movie is still being shown in Israel. People who boast about murdering Palestinian people singing Break My Soul while waving their flags. People in a country murdering men women and children, turning them into martyrs, ruining some of the world's oldest churches and mosques, people dying to make our phones and computers, people in the midst of a war that's displacing people, setting up circumstances for sexual violence against women, and you can't say anything? Beyoncé's reach is astronomical someone like her or even that white woman saying something would have an impact and they have the money and the means to support themselves should something happen because other people are literally losing jobs and being attacked, some of them are dead and some will never be the same.
Also, someone pointed out that activists in one way or another are putting their lives on the line for a particular cause, they risk being locked up or murdered and God knows what else to help others. You not Malcolm X because you re-posted a few Instagram reels let's be serious. That's not to take away from posting online and its impact because it helps connect people, the internet is how people come to know these things are even happening in the first place but activists have a lot to lose no matter their cause, which is to say no one's saying people like Beyoncé or White lady or Selena Gomez need to be activists but they could say something. I mean esp with those last two they speak up on like their ex boyfriends like someone gives a shit but now people are dying and been doing so for God knows how long (its just now at the forefront) you silent? Okay
#like if you care more about celebrities just say that#put your chest out and say it stop making excuses#like if my art was being touted around by israelis I'd be sick to say the least#and tbh if you wanna quote malcolm x or hide behind feminism when it suits you#but things Malcolm X very much talked about you silent on#people going without menstrual products in war and being raped yet you're silent#random
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Sorry 2 open a can of worms potentially but sometimes I think about how there are people out there that took the 36 lessons as literal and truth and questioned nothing about them and donât view them as carefully tailored propaganda and metaphorical and symbolic in many instances, and uh
#It comes across to me as something scholars and philosophers would conclude mostly aren't literal#but less educated or low literacy citizens would laud them as incredible literal feats#in fact mostly anything about the tribunal is propaganda really#which unquestioning reverence is what they would WANT#not art#vena vents#people are very gross with taking the molag bal one as literal and not a huge symbolic description of a rape scene
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