#arrowfamily

[theflashjaygarrick]

I made this brief intro to the arrow family powerpoint which I decided I might as well share with Tumblr because I (shockingly) haven't found a situation to use it irl

[imperatrice21]

Dinah and Roy and Mera and Garth are such cute mother-son relationships. Honestly they're better parents then their partners, who are the actual parents.

[humanoidluv]

"the bats and the supers--" HAVE YOU SEEN THE ARROWS AND THE AQUAS?

HAVE YOU SEEN OLLIE AND ARTHUR??

so fruity. somehow. i love them. fruits. i love it.

HAVE YOU SEEN GARTH AND ROY??

[hawkzeyes]

IM VIBRATING

Art by Sean Izaakse x

[timstephfangirl]

I would just like to point out that if you happen to be doing a DickRoy/Roy Harper/Lian Harper/or Arrowfam read through (or are following a reading guide) and therefore need to read Action Comics #613-618 & #627-634 it will probably be easier to read Nightwing Old Friends, New Enemies than searching through Action Comics (and the quality is better)

Maybe this is common knowledge, but I didn't know, and reading Action Comics was a pain.

[comiconsnow]

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[confusedhummingbird]

My feelings as of lately and especially with the Arrowfam reunited.

[royboyfanpage]

Do you have any hot takes or unpopular opinions involving the Arrowfam?

Thank You 😁

Oh boy here goes. My hottest take is that Dinah should not be considered the mother of the Arrowfam.

Look, okay, I get it. Family dynamics are really cute, and the Arrowfam is the superhero family. And since Ollie's the dad of the family, it makes sense reasonably that that would make Dinah the mum.

But the thing is, I really don't think she is. Ages ago I made a post about how I want an Arrowsiblings (Roy Connor + Mia) hug in the current run and I got a few notes on that post saying that they should also hug their mum and that's what really started this train of thought so I'm gonna go from that.

So obviously the easiest to dispute is Connor. Connor already has a mum, and it's a bit of a concerning trend where mixed race children of heroes have their birth mothers erased and replaced with their dad's significant other in fandom (see: the posts about Selina being Damian's mum). And the erasure of Moonday in Connor's life is something that happens quite often (when Ollie and Dinah had a kid named Connor in Injustice...) so just. Don't do it. Dinah isn't Connor's mum, he already has a mum.

Then there's Roy. Roy's definitely someone I see a lot of posts about him being "Dinah's son", and while I do enjoy the mama's boy jokes I wouldn't necessarily say their relationship is mother/son. Maternal? Yeah. But I feel like trying to apply a traditional family dynamic to their relationship just feels counterproductive to me. They only really met when Roy was in his early adulthood/late teens (I know Roy's age is ambiguous in Snowbirds but for the sake of arguing I usually put him around 18), and having someone fill the role of "mother" in his life was never particularly important to him.

Obviously it's not explicitly stated in this dialogue, but I've always read into it as an undertone that while Roy wanted someone (Ollie) to fill the role of "father" in his life, he never felt that same need for a mother. Their relationship is very complex, it's one based in a lot of love and trust and there are absolutely maternal aspects to it, but I wouldn't call it mother/son.

And then there's Mia. Mia's relationship with Dinah is definitely the most mother/child of the three, with Dinah saying just as much

That being said, hear me out.

I think that, like with Roy, Dinah and Mia have a very complex, layered relationship. I think that mother/daughter is the easiest way to quantify it, but that's just rounding up to the closest approximation. I think their relationship is more similar to Dinah's relationship with Sin- a sister relationship with maternal elements, and I don't think Mia considers Dinah a mother, not entirely.

Obviously this is just my opinion, and it's a hot take for a reason, I don't expect the majority to agree with me. I just think that the Arrows don't need to follow nuclear family dynamics in order to be a family, and Dinah's role in their lives is more interesting and has more room for nuance when it's not labelled.

Thank you for the ask!

[pluckyredhead]

how about an arrowfam or superfam-centric 5+1?

100% it would be "Five Times an Arrowkid Called Ollie 'Dad.'" Featuring:

Roy saying it when he's very very small and half-asleep after a night of patrol and Ollie's whole chest seizes up because holy shit he has a KID now.

Connor saying it very tentatively after Ollie comes back to life like he's afraid Ollie will run away again, and Ollie just smiles and ruffles his hair and pretends he's not tempted to flee because he's going to fuck this up again.

Mia by accident and then they both pretend it didn't happen because uhhh her real dad was...yeah. The next time she says it it's without that immediate flinch and from then on she uses it about as often as Roy does (like 10% of the time they address Ollie).

Cissie very angrily because actually fuck you, she didn't ask to be one of Green Arrow's 97 illegitimate children, she was just fine on her own. (She will calm down, it's just that anger is her go-to response when she's uncomfortable.)

Honestly #5 should probably be Robert Jr. but I don't care about him and I REALLY don't want him and Emiko to both be in continuity because that's weird. Maybe Emiko by accident? Or, funnier - Kyle by accident and neither he nor Ollie notices until like 10 minutes later. (Roy laughs so hard.)

I have no idea what the +1 punchline is so I'm just going to say it's Ollie calling Dinah "daddy." No, I didn't mix them up.

[trucywright]

the lack of consequences and in depth story telling in dc comics is so frustrating. ollie is effectively emiko's guardian. when emiko had a secret plan that hurt him even though the end goal was noble, he was super upset at her. it would be really interesting to see them deal with ollie's fake betrayal, the feeling that she'd potentially lose the last bit of her family, and how he did even worse than her with the secret plans.

but no. the next writer seemingly has little to no interest in the arrowfam besides maybe connor and mia. so even though ollie and emiko are half-siblings and ollie was pretty much raising her, nothing about their relationship will ever be further explored because dc is just unwilling to do that. emiko didn't even get to say anything in the last GA issue about what ollie did, but sure. give dialogue to red canary who shouldn't even be there.

[theflashjaygarrick]

BONUS:

[excalumbras]

yk whats so interesting abt roy not liking ollie taking a child sidekick?? the fact that roy was forced to have a 16yo on a superhero team bc otherwise that kid wouldve gone to jail, & the superhero team he was the leader of also had 2 other 15/16yo kids (the editorial-mandated tara markov 2.0 & bart allen).

theres also the fact that now its canon that emiko queen was ollie's 3rd child sidekick.

like... theres something to chew on here. theres something to be said abt roy blatantly hating & being against the concept of teenagers being put in harm's way but was the leader of a team w 3 teenagers that he was directly responsible for (one of whom was literally going to prison at 16yo if roy hadnt stepped in), as well as the fact that his dad lied abt mia dearden being the last teenager ollie would ever have as a sidekick (via editorial mandates... bc of the fucking. n52 to rebirth character arc pipelines.)

also the fact that roy's own daughter has become a child sidekick of an antihero...... theres smth to unpack here.

[lesbianspeedy]

hahaha again! hahaha again! hahaha! arrowfam tiktoks again!

[jewishcissiekj]

I wanna see something

[hawkzeyes]

What if I started wailing like a banshee right here right now

Green Arrow #10 (2024)