#arrow discourse

[laurelwinchester]

Okay but since you started, to continue ar*row posting into 2024, it was blatantly obvious Quentin resented Laurel for being the one that lived when they all thought Sara died, and people still thought he was a good dad??? The whole Lance family was so fucked up and Laurel deserved a better family

oh yeah 100% both quentin and dinah thought the wrong daughter died on that boat. there is no doubt about it. they resented laurel for being alive instead of sara. they did not hide their favoritism well. with dinah, she was open about it. with quentin, it only came out in waves, usually when he was drunk but even when he was sober it still sometimes seeped out of him in these little hissed remarks.

it's one of the reasons thinking about laurel's childhood fascinates me so much. at a glance, the lance family was a normal middle class family. two beautiful, smart girls, a home, two parents with well respected careers and a loving marriage. a happy family.

but i have to wonder if it was really all that happy for laurel.

i mean. she dated oliver for years. devoted herself to him. adored him. she took him back when he made mistakes, she wanted to move in with him, she wanted to marry him, she loved him with everything the whole way through. and he treated her like trash. he cheated on her over and over and over again with her friends and her sister. he had zero respect for her. he was stupid and he was nasty and he was cruel. and it's not like the island changed him when it came to her. i'm sorry but it didn't. he was an arrow in her lung from the day she met him until the day she died. and she just. accepted that. she accepted that was all she would get and lived with it until the end. that was as far as she got in terms of believing in her own worth.

that kind of chronic, damaging low self esteem doesn't come from nowhere. laurel's canonical desperation and pleading and searching for love was one of her most devastating traits (partly because she was never able to find it) and it's something that can only come from the lack of love. and that shit starts at the top. it starts with mom and dad. they poisoned her. bit by bit until she was dead, gone, and replaced, quite literally, by a doppelganger.

no, i'll never understand why people love "papa lance." he was only a loving father to one daughter. he was an abuser to the other.

that's one of the reasons why one of the recurring characters in my laurel fics is her non canon grandmother. she needs at least one family member to love her completely and unconditionally. lord knows no one else did.

[rirururu]

They're partners uwu

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[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

i honestly wish bow had more depth to his character than just being the “friendship guy” or the mom friend. like he’s part of the main trio and somehow he’s one of the most underdeveloped characters in the show. i think it would have been really interesting if they explored bow’s relationships with his dads and his fear of letting them down, in more detail, than just cramming it into one episode and calling it a day.

[salemdrawsitgay]

An online friend literally haven't spoke to him in a YEAR got hacked and sent me a server for free nudes. I helped him change his password after he got back in and what not but like then we srat talking abt dc, i show him some tim art. He tries to explain how Robin isn't gay. Not just Damian but like all Robin's arnt gay.

Whole convo bc because of Tim Drake art.

Tell me why this collagekid was so pissed I 'made' Robin gay??? Like sir! Sir! May haps shut your mouth? I explained the the queer coding and shit and a whole rant about JayRoy aswell.

Also, what's wrong with JayRoy, theres an age difference. But they're adults. In their 20s. They don't injure eachother often. And let's say you do hate the ship. Guess what? SALT TAGS EXSIST dot flood the tag with spam and fuckin' censor it like is a severe curse. Like "stop posting J*yroy 🤬🥺🥺" like Jason Todd killed your newborn puppy and fucked Roy over top of the the dead dog. Like. Get a life you're so fuckin pressed. Over 2 criminals holding hands like they're gonna nuke an orphan preschool or somhing like. Touch grass. And the concrete, see family, log off Tumblr die idc just shut up

anyway the Tim art in question.

[aerascreamer]

Quick (or long) question for Green Arrow and Arrowfam fans since I’m new:

What is the worst characterisation for the characters and what events/series are unfaithful to them?

For example:

I read that Ollie rejecting Connor after the reveal that he is his bio son is extremely OOC, while others also despise Red Hood and the Outlaws because Roy’s character is butchered.

Are there any other series, events etc. that are really poor writing and can be ignored/rewritten?

[soups-archive]

Thoughts on Purgatory Day 4:

God what a fun day, and yet funnily enough a much more relaxed one.

It's gonna be interesting to see what the ramifications of blue's logout strat are gonna be because it's definitely going to be banned, but, from my understanding, blue used this strat to prove a point: that red's strategy was unfair.

Which is true, or at least I think it was true.

Personally, I feel like it was mostly unfair due to how difficult it used to be to get to global, but I feel like the admins have pretty fairly counteracted that and balanced things with today's introduction of the spawn portals.

Because with red's strat players HAD to physically travel to global and turn in the contracts within at least the last 30 minutes of gameplay. The portals now easily allow other teams to show up and at least put up a good fight, and we actually got to see how effective they are today with cellbit and charlie's assist they pulled for roier. If they had been just slightly quicker, green might've been able to steal back the win.

Which I think brings me to the other potentially unfair part of red's strat that I've seen be brought up which is that it isn't fair for streamers in European timezones/streamers who play earlier. Which is a fair criticism, but honestly I haven't personally been able to think of a way for the admins to balance the contracts around that without either: A) completely changing how contracts work, or B) unfairly punishing later streamers.

I think it's complicated, and I feel like the main thing that's gonna result from today isn't going to be them banning turning in tasks late but instead banning logging out right in front of the global NPCs. Knowing the admins, they'll probably figure out something I hadn't thought of and make the whole thing more fair for everyone.

Competition and lore wise, tomorrow is gonna be really interesting as well. A small alliance might be blooming between red and green and that might have massive ramifications going forward. That and I think (???????) that players might be getting their eggs tomorrow (?????). I know they described a period in which they had to keep them alive and the actual event ends on the 10th so I'm guessing they're arriving tomorrow. If they are, that shit is going to be crazy.

(Side note: It was also a delight to see teams casually hanging out more together today. As much as I enjoy the competition, I missed them all just chilling)

Overall, congrats blue on the win! Cheesy as fuck and they knew it but it was absolutely deserved! They worked their asses off! And green put up a hell of a fight! I hope they get their chance to win as well tomorrow!

[theatrekidenergy]

🧠 brain-on-the-brain Follow

Just a reminder that monster/human relationships are inherently toxic, especially between the freaks that need to be taken to the pound to taste some silver and humans.

🩸B4TTYB1TES Follow

Dude what the actual fuck? Is all that rotting effecting your ability to comprehend basic logic? Go and crawl back to the grave yard where you belong.

🌒 dirty-paws1 Follow

@brain-on-the-brain Uhm- I- What? Ok yeah you did not just say that. Let me guess, “vampires shouldn’t date their sires.” Should they?

🧠 brain-on-the-brain Follow

Mhm. Exactly. You are just proving my point, @dirty-paws1 you are literally just proving to everyone that you dogs can’t control yourselves. And yes, vampires shouldn’t date their sires, it’s not a complicated thing, there’s an obvious power imbalance that’s only going to end in abuse.

👻 trans-parent Follow

FYI eveyone, @brain-on-the-brain is openly anti-siren and thinks that not undead monsters aren’t actually in the monster community. They aren’t worth it, just block and move on.

🧠 brain-on-the-brain Follow

Okay and you are all just going to ignore how @B4TTYB1TES said blatantly anti-zombie statements aren’t you

🦇draculaishotlmfao Follow

Eh you’re right they did say some shit, but like, is no one else going to bring up sirens or are you guys gonna make me side with an anti-monster/human relationship supporter :/

🌒 dirty-paws1 Follow

Why would we bring sirens into this? My friend Lilly is a siren and she’s an amazing friend, if you guys are going off of stereotypes you need to knock it off. So let me make this clear, not all zombies are not stupid, not all vampires are cruel, not all werewolves are open about our lycanthropy, and not all sirens are manipulative. Jeez.

🧜‍♀️ Saltwatersweetie Follow

THIS!!!!!! ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

🩸B4TTYB1TES Follow

Well this escalated quickly 💀

[roseofthewind]

Kannazuki no miko continues to be one of the most horrible, heart-wrenching, beautiful, terrible, amazing, painful stories I have ever experienced and I love it so much and I am never, ever going to recommend it to anyone else ever

[elimgarakdemocrat]

"Three arrows" logo for the US Democratic Party. Design by @spudwaff1e, twitter user @/schlagteslinks, and I.

[brehaaorgana]

As a bisexual (mixed race) former academic w degrees in museum studies/art history & also former employee at an archaeology museum, WHEW......

[laurelwinchester]

Laurel/Helena had so much potential but knowing the writers, I am so glad nothing ever happened. But oh man, the potential.

oh, fully agree! i love my girls but if the show had gone there, it would have been a disaster. undoubtedly toxic and probably incredibly offensive in more than one way. it's for the best they never did anything with laurel/helena. .......but the potential! all that wasted chemistry! such a shame.

[fantastic-nonsense]

most of the discourse surrounding the question "are the Robins child soldiers?" could be solved if people simply read other comics. like, do y'all have this energy for Flash and Green Arrow and the Marvels and the Teen Titans? Do you call Donna Troy and Jaime Reyes child soldiers too? I am begging people to simply accept genre conventions and set yourselves free from this nonsense take

[kuwdora]

Anytime I see people talking about canon and fan fiction and all the discourse that happens therein, my brain always goes back to this line from Slings and Arrows. It’s been living in my head rent free for nearly 20 years.

Geoffrey Tennant is standing in front of a workshop class full of corporate middle management people who tell him they’re at the workshop to learn communication skills and management styles by learning about the works of Shakespeare. And they’re all just very cut and dry business folk who are there and are gonna Learn a Thing. Geoffrey basically waves the class’s notions aside and says: “Let’s fuck around with some text.”

I love that line. I think about that line a lot when I think about fandom. Taking canon and finding our own way to play and fuck around with it. Search for profound truths about a character. And the horny. The silliness and fun. Explore the new and process trauma or share joy with fic or art or vids. Going in completely different direction from canon because we’re in so deep and are possessed and that’s where the stories and the fanon has carried us.

Let’s fuck around with some text. It’s so good.

[zenosanalytic]

#the bigots do not care about how you identify#they will use whatever is handy to wound you#the point is the pain not the precision (via @arrows-for-pens)

I think perhaps endless pissing contests over which kind of trans person has it worse are very, very useless when we're all getting shoved in the meat grinder right now.

Ron DeSantis isn't exactly asking my pronouns before he passes Illegal To Be Trans bills, takes away everyone's HRT, and imprisons trans parents as child abusers.

[paingoes]

Destroyer Masterpost

Destroyer is a sci-fi story about a telekinetic living weapon called Δ-107, or Delta for short, who is controlled by an evil space empire. The story takes place immediately following the death of the old Emperor and explores the ensuing succession crisis. Delta is inherited by the Emperor’s only son, the crown prince Paris of Thales, and lives aboard his battleship.

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Character Overview:

Delta (Δ-107) - living weapon with strong and destructive telekinesis

Paris - crown prince of Empire and Delta's current owner

Simon - a theoretical physicist and glad scientist, one of Delta's handlers (not pictured)

Dr.Martino - a doctor who specializes in psychic abilities, Delta's other handler (not pictured)

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voice claims !!! <3

art :D

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You can also read this story on AO3 !

click here to see series in writing order

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Story:

Prologue - Intro to Delta's powers, the moment he was acquired by Empire

Even More Prologue, Somehow - Death of the emperor, succession

Trigger Discipline - first meeting

Blood Ties - Paris tries to break Delta in

Thorns - Daily routine

Lightshow - First brief mission

Night at the Ball - what it says

Behave - Obedience training or maybe just fucking around we're not sure

Moonshine - Delta steals a laptop. Paris gets too drunk.

Dune - not the one you're thinking of

Penance - Delta’s on probation. kinda harsh!

Memory - Some info about Delta's childhood

LEECH - Simon goes too far

Castle Damon - Delta’s not the only psychic in the world

Web - Delta plays on the computer for a few hours

Bottle Episode - Everyone’s mad?

Mercy - Drastic measures are considered in light of rebellion

Sea Changes

Marks - Slap on the wrist

Bingo - This meeting could have been an email

In Shadows - Internal analysis

MK - Drug trials

Golem - Delta cinches a critical victory. Paris gets mad.

Graduation - fuck yes lorelai is in this one

Medical Conference - delta gets shown off and also drugged

Lemuria - There's a massacre at Lemuria

Discourse - The internet has opinions

Asking - Delta asks for something. He doesn't get it.

Like An Arrow - Time flies

Rupture - Some information gets declassified

Time Flies - Like an arrow

Come Back - Delta blows up the parliament building

A Sentence of Sorts - More things get declassified. Paris is troubled, more than usual.

Help - Delta offers to help Paris

Masquerade - A bad party and a mild identity crisis

:3

Tundra I - Spiritually this is the Christmas episode because there's snow and they fight

Tundra II - Post-fight hangover

afk

Check-Up

Battleship

Birthday I

Birthday II

Bridge

The End

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aaaaand that's the end! ....or is it?

Delta's story continues in the sequel series Rubies <3

Paris has a series too I guess.

Thanks so much for reading :D !

[comicaurora]

These have been pent up for a while, so there's a whole list lol. Some are Aurora, some are not.

1) Can lacrimas carry out multiple purposes at once? Or will they blend them? I'm assuming that this is possible, considering that the automaton in the ruins was using a lacrima as a brain

2) Has anyone tried to make tools or weapons out of lacrimas? I'm talking like chisel that needs no hammer. Or maybe a Fire lacrima on a bow that sets your arrows on fire

3) Can you engrave runes on lacrimas to make them affect themselves?

4) Where can I read more about the Twins? If I'm not wrong they're the creator gods, aided by the Light dragon and the Void dragon to create life, but I might be getting a wrong read on that

5) Since we see Erin successfully become the first Void mage, does that now mean there's potential for him to make a Void lacrima? The dragon probably won't allow it, but still

6) What exactly does elemental corruption of each element do? Fire literally burns you up, as we saw in Arc 1. I can infer that Life likely makes you a chimera. Void corruption makes you a cave crawler. But what do the other one do? Does Earth make you a statue? Does Wind disintegrate you, Thanos style?

7) Now onto the non-Aurora questions, is your art vector or raster? I believe it's vector, but it's always better to confirm

8) What are your opinions on reading into the environment and the character design to infer things about the character themselves? In any type of media

9) Have you played Baldur's Gate 3?

10) Do you have any music that you'd recommend? I've listened to every song I liked so many times that I hate them now.

11) I'm new to Tumblr, anything that I should know? You don't have to answer this one if you don't wanna. I think I know some of the basics already. Reblog what you like, and avoid the terfs, right?

You might be able to tell that I like the idea of the lacrimas a little bit. Just a teensy bit. The artificer in me definitely isn't obsessed. I appreciate any answers you can give :3

Cheers!

Ooh, lots of stuff!

Yes, it's possible. A lacrima can be engraved with multiple spells, set in a casing engraved with commands, or some combination of the two. Typically, all spells engraved directly on a lacrima will activate at once when the lacrima is "switched on", but a spell can be quite complex, and conditional activations are possible - "if-then-else" statements, basically.

Yes, magic items exist.

Generally no. If the lacrima is disrupted or broken, the spell generally stops functioning, so a self-affecting lacrima will run only as long as it takes for the lacrima to distort or break.

There's an extra lore page about them!

He probably could if he wanted to (and the Dragon allowed it) but Void energy is very dangerous, so he likely doesn't want to.

Each form of elemental corruption agitates the presence of the element in the mage's body. Earth corruption can damage or alter bones, encourage unhealthy petrification of soft tissues, etc. Wind corruption can have physical effects but it often most obviously produces breakdowns in the person's ability to speak or understand language. Lightning damages, numbs or intensifies a person's physical senses.

Raster, I draw with CSP's digital pens. I've only very briefly experimented with vector art - I don't like how it simplifies the lines.

I think it's a fun school of analysis but, like all literary analysis, it runs into trouble if it tries to lock down exactly what the writer was thinking or intending (which is an objective fact that one can be incorrect about) rather than trying to analyze the story on its own and what meaning might, intentionally or unintentionally, be factoring into it.

Nope

don't trust my taste in music it's 90% nu metal and sonic OSTs

Like what you like, reblog what you want, generally it's considered dubious form to add a comment to a reblog unless you have something profound to contribute (commenting in the tags is fine), steer clear of discourse and callout posts and generally the sectors of the site that are constantly on fire, blocking someone for any reason is 100% fine