#are the ones who dont want woman to be nuanced
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It's interesting seeing how attitudes towards female characters in the merlin fandom has evolved.
From what I've seen, back in the day people mainly seemed to say stuff like"morganas such a hysterical irrational evil bitch I hate her" and "idk i just think gwens really dull and uninteresting I hate her"
Thankfully nowadays people instead say "morgana's a hysterical irrational evil bitch, oh but i definitely love her character btw. The character where i think she's a bastard who deserves bad things i mean" and "wow it sure sucks that they made gwen so dull and uninteresting, because i definitely really want to like her, alas i cannot. Also leons my favourite knight".
which is ofc so much better!
#bbc merlin#this post was brought to you by me losing my mind#after seeing someone say people not being down with morganas post s2 character writing#just didn't want her to be nuanced#like i wish i lived in the world where she continued to function as a character once a villain dont get me wrong#but alas we live in the world where evil morgana is a 2 dimensional stereotype that exists mainly to make merlins brand#of not doing anything about oppression look better by comparison#I dont thinj the people who think that's a bit. shit.#are the ones who dont want woman to be nuanced#(im sorry my merlin fandom sleeper agent self got activated and now this stupid show is all i can think about)
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Ty for answering my asks! Recently, I saw some fanart of the gender bendered crew and it got me curios, how much would the plot change if Jimmy was a woman. I mean, she would still be emotionally abusive (esp to Fem!Curly), but at lest, I guess, the crash would've never happened (?)
Also, her relationship w/ Anya: if she was assulted still, it prolly would've been dissmissed, since it's between 2 women. Or, if Anya is male in this scenario, he couldn't really be able to talk abt it, since society decided that "women can't r*pe men", so it's not serious and he should suck it up. Man, it's just sucks to be Anya in any scenario my poor girl 😭
What do you think? If you have an opinion on that at all, that is
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I think the scenario's where the gender was flipped or any level of gender based intersectionality is expanded makes it so much more complex.
If this is the scenario with fem!Jimmy, it comes with the territory of questionable internalized homophobia. Does Jimmy brush it off in this scenario because she doesn't think lesbian encounters are real ones? Is she struggling with her identity and taking it out on Anya who may be openly queer compared a fem!Curly who is either straight or just not interested in Jimmy? Perhaps it's a sort of weird entitled that can occur in female dominated spaces "We're both girls, I know what you have, it won't matter." It's still is something I don't see Jimmy denying in this scenario, he never really denies it in canon just talks around it with Curly. Here I can see it's less about the pregnancy and more so about the internalized homophobia. Not seeing Anya as anything but an unwanted aspect of her femineity and the allure of it, there's a lot more objectification of both Curly and Anya in this alteration as I would believe feels better thinking of them in that light if they are just fodder in her mind. Guilty pleasures that no longer bring her such. It's a careful situation because I don't want this to fall into predatory lesbian stereotyping, Jimmy is just a person who does not respect other people or their choice, if it conflict with what he wants or perceived is owed.
The idea of Curly having to report it and outing her not only as a rapist but queer and the denial, especially in the case Anya and Curly are both out as she feels a sort of resentment she can't be secure with herself that way. If it is masc!Curly, there could be the jealousy of him being able to actively pursue relationships he wants while she feels she can't, Anya and Curly playfully flirt, its casual but it's something she longs for in the same way she doesn't. She obsesses over Curly because she wishes she could be Curly in a social sense in both aspect male or female Curly.
If it's fem!Jimmy and masc!Anya? It's a much more delicate situation. In this scenario Jimmy gets pregnant. Maybe Anya does a blood test after the incident and finds out Jimmy is pregnant. It's a very sensitive matter because if it's fem!Curly her first assumption is Anya may have done something. That is just the immediate assumptions in cases like this. I think the fact that Anya is telling her would make Curly think it's not that simple, especially since Jimmy isn't brining it up or really caring but everyone reacts differently. Jimmy is pregnant however, and that's a big deal, she'll figure that out eventually on her own but how will she react? Curly knows it won't be good, Anya knows too.
I think the crash is instigated in this scenerio by fem!Curly actually doing more, refusing to sweep it under the rug because she can conceptualize that fear, likely she and Jimmy are the only girls on board. She trusts everyone, well did trust everyone, but it's just something you live with. She can't just live with that double standard but I feel like she really doesn't know how to address it. How does she bring it up to superiors without implicating Anya? What does she do with Jimmy, it still feels like she's catering to Jimmy but now the concern is primarily focused on the life this baby will be born into. If it is born at all. I don't think Jimmy would try to kill Anya in this concept but try to spin the narrative it was mutual up until she got pregnant. Curly doesn't really buy it but it's a lot of processing, a lot more he said she said but what Jimmy is saying just doesn't make sense. It gives Jimmy too much time to really settle with the fact she's pregnant and likely can't support a kid nor wants to give birth out in space. Jimmy feeling like she's being othered from the only other woman could also be a factor, maybe even starting into her thinking Curly is behaving like a "pick-me" for siding with a guy over her. The crash is more spiteful in terms of having to protect herself alone, due to Curly not outright supporting her delusions.
It really adds a certain horror to Jimmy's pregnancy hallucinations because after the crash they are about her, her symptoms the sign of showing. She doesn't want the child either and considering what being pregnant can do to your mental/physical state, especially some of the more negative symptoms, I doubt she is handling it well. A lot of Anya's struggles are with the stigmas around male victims. His body reacted so did he want it? He's gonna be a father and courts likely will make him pay or care for the baby even if they take Anya's side, their world is just like that. Would the other's blame him for not doing more, he is a man after all? Should he be considered lucky a woman was that into him? It's eating away at him because not only does he not feel safe, he actively blames himself.
In the case Curly is still a cis guy, its that weird feeling guys often get when talking about male victims of assault. I don't think he'd victim blame but he likely asks or thinks about how it could've happened, why wouldn't Anya just overpower Jimmy? Maybe he couldn't? Maybe Anya didn't have it in him to strike a woman. He wouldn't. Now he thinks of what he would have done if Jimmy did something like that to him. SImilary to my trans!Curly post, he's wondering if it could've been him. It's likely one of the first times in his life he has to think of that type of vulnerability in terms of himself and other men and against likely his girl best friend. I think that arm pat right before Jimmy crashes the ship would really make him feel weird, not like he'd have the time to really dig into those feeling but y'know WERE GONNA CRASH!!!.
In terms of Jimmy and Curly's specific relationship, it just gets messier if they aren't both guys or girls. There's a lot of misogny on Jimmy's side with fem!Curly. He often points out she's a woman captain or makes a point of her being one of the few independent woman in her field and how certain men hate that. It's insidious but Curly doesn't think about or like to cause she likes to believe Jimmy isn't one of those guys. He can be a bit antiquated, maybe a bit of a pig but no ones perfect! Here a lot of his resentment is more gear toward a woman having that power over him as Captain/filling the typical male roles he fails at. He can't stand that she's above him in almost aspect and he likely takes it out on other women. Similarly, fem!Jimmy and cis Curly is just as bad. It's a fact of not knowing if she wants to be him, wants him or wants to destroy him. It's obsession without anything positive. She feels entitled to his space and life and time and he has a hard time setting up boundaries cause, well, Jimmy's a girl, his bestfriend and it comes with all the stigmas around boygirl best friends. To him it's a sort of oppressive doting, he feels wrong telling her not to pick and like he's being controlling. That's how she'd spin it whenever he'd try to make boundaries with her.
They are still just friends but most people can't tell even if they can tell it's not healthy, in both cases. Either way I feel like if they were opposite genders to each other there would a specific infatuation Jimmy would have with Curly that would be less hidden but sort of unaddressed because the idea of Curly rejecting them would make them lash out in a way Curly may just leave for their safety. It's also Jimmy wouldn't want to be with Curly specifically but just want what would consistently provide/available.
If they are both girls, its envy. It's that sort of hate that someone fits the standards you don't, wanting them to be picked second or crack. She likes to get into Curly's head, point out flaws and act like it's just her being helpful. She wants Curly to be a girls girl but only for her. There's a sort of possessiveness like purposely jeopardizing relationships because why would a man come first? That girl hates me and is a pick me, why are you friends with her still, Curly? Like this is silly but think about how Regina George treats Gretchen Wieners and that's effectively how fem!Curly and fem!Jimmy would work but technically Curly has the sway of Regina.
I believe the crash would always happen. Jimmy would try to escape responsibility or really thinking about what they did in any world, any gender. It's about facing the consequences, losing things he refuses to let go of or having to deal with responsibilities he's not ready for. The switching of sex or gender really doesn't change those core aspects.
#this is long cause theres so many ideas to play with here and how jimmy and Curly would work but the specifc things happening with Anya#like if she wasnt pregnant thats a relief but its the sort of situation where she has to think about her own sexuality in the scenerio shes#queer and how Jimmy affect her. Its addressing it with Curly who may get it but maybe she gets it too much maybe its hard to hear about Jim#cause for all she knew Jimmy was straight and now she has to think of all the odd conversations and nights they shared beds and maybe#feelings she had but she has to focus on putting Anya first but what does she do? Outing someone is bad but this can be dismmised?#Would the pony express just punish both anya and jimmy and curly what if theres a dont ask dont tell policy? what if they dont care cause#they are all women. its not an issue if its just girls not getting along after “experimenting”. Back to male Anya and female Jimmy they wil#assume it was consensual and anya just doesnt want the kid often that is pushed on male rape narratives. Jimmy is pregnant and on edge#does Curly also have to factor in the child? I feel like the feast scene would be Jimmy delusionally thinking Curly is helping support the#child i mean he is the most well off the bread winner he puts food on the table he is the food! Would polle being Anya talk about how Jimmy#doesnt have it in her to foster a child to support one emotionally without damage? Why so focused on making Curly the idealized male#or provider in her life when she went after him? For female Curly is it envy that she did this to herself and Curly has even more prospects#than her now? What if Anya was fawning because he didn't want the kid but hated the idea of Jimmy killing it to spite him? Or perhaps using#it as a means of control because even if he doesn't want it i doubt he wants it to be punished or abused. It is a burden something no one#wanted but it is being fostered five months in and Jimmys showing a bump and Anya cant ignore all the implications of it being born to her#maybe he kills himself to avoid living in a world its subjected to that pain to to save himself from it. GOD the pills with Curly are worse#for male Anya fem!Curly because its so much more direct he cant shove something down a womans throat who is clearly unwilling it makes#him feel like Jimmy to watch her struggle against him and he cant do it and with Jimmy it is so much more direct about a mother feeding#theri child and abusing it like the nuance if any gender flipping was canon would tear this fandom apart now imma thinking crazy about this#thanks skull anon like really ur asks get me thinking#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#💀 anon#ask#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#captain curly#nurse anya#anya mouthwashing
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"It's so rare for R to be in her right mind for a spell. Should she really be wasting the precious little lucid time she has writing this?" "Don't worry. For a witch, this is the most important thing."
you mean to be telling me that it's an explicit point that rhinedottir is rarely in the proper state to do spells and write things like this. and of all the choices she had not to. she chooses to write it and places importance (read. it's established as the MOST IMPORTANT THING too.) in spending said-precious-time to write something with her friends commemorating andersdotter. hoyo i need youto stare me in the eyes and real the implications of rhinedottir expending what the other's are describing as her "precious little lucid time" to commemorate and make an ode to her dead friend HOYOPLEAS
#i need everyone who characterizes her as a pure evil being and whatever to shutup so bad rn.DO YOU READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#that was mean. i dont mean that.#more so:#LOOK AT HOW SHE'S BEING BUILT AS COMPLEX#she's done horrible things but. so have so many other people?? and i never see THEM characterized as only their sins#albedos one line#'human beings are defined by their flaws'#(or something to that affect)#has NEVER been more true#youguys did you take a 6th grade english class. You can be honest#how are you gonna look at this woman whose been explicitly built with nuance#as a person both sinful and good. but defined almost explictly by said sins purely for the fact she's human and against what's 'good'#AND THEN GO AND SAY SHE'S ONLY EVIL????????????????#ARE WE PLAYING THE SAME GAME/?????????????????#look at the distinction between the hexenteaser and alice's impression. read the blossoming starlight description.#try reading albedo's character stories with the slightest hint of media comprehension#THE ENTIRE POINTOF HER CHARACTER IS. SIMPLIFIED AND SHOWED THROUGH ALBEDOS STUPID LINE ABOUT HUMANS#PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1#anyways ifyou want to see some of the msot accurate interpretations of her i've ever seen pls go read reverie or nutmeg's fics💜💜#ok im done with all of that. thanks for coming to my ted talk#crepe rants#rhine#rhinedottir#genshin leaks
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i am soooooo incredibly tired of people turning characters that are men into women. sorry. like obviously there is nuance here and i have seen some GENUINE WONDERFUL transfem headcanons for canonically male characters. but i am sick and fucking tired of everything else. "he's like a woman to me" "he's a girlfailure" "he's such a lesbian" can you like fuck off.
#goddddd. like i said there is nuance.#shoutout to the really good transfem readings i have seen on my dash.#my issue is ONE the people doing it in the way im complaining about. typically arent women. they arent lesbians (when relevant).#and TWO. they are not doing it and then exploring the nuances they have added to the characters.#okay. so you turned [redacted] into a woman. are you going to explore the nuance of this character who is a public figure -#- and specifically an ACTOR in the 60S for that matter ?#and god FORBID they explore the nuances of making that same character transfem if applicable.#no they just want to go “oh he's like a woman to me he's a woman now”#and as a lesbian im fucking siiiiick of it#I HAVE SEEN IT PITCHED TO ME IN PARTICULAR AS 'oh i made this character a woman so you (a lesbian) can also think he's hot now'#WHYYYYYYY WOULD I THINK HE'S HOT. HE STILL FUCKING SUCKS AS A PERSON I WOULDNT WANT TO BE AROUND HIIIIIM.#and especially the 'he's such a lesbian' thing. that one really got to me because it was done by someone who isn't a lesbian.#idk. im a hater right now. i dont know why. goodnight
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hungarian/nomadic magyar tumblr circa 998AD dashboard simulator
🏞️ vándor-ló-979 Follow
not yall still spreading emese's foundation myth??? she literally claims she fucked a bird????? like either she's lying or she cheated and she's trying to cover it up or well. i dont even want to consider the third option
🪺 magánügyek Follow
tengri forbid women do anything???
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🦅 szél-könnyű-szárnyán-szállj Follow
okay im sick of the discourse let's do this.
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🐎 istván-rovására Follow
that took so long lmao -> !!!!!!!∧◇ᛏ⋈∧
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🐴 csillagösvény Follow
i'm so serious rn if you support """istván""" in any way just unfollow and block me. we do NOT need him or his dumbass god and what he's been doing to our people to spread his religion is shameful.
🐴 csillagösvény Follow
btw we all know your real name is vajk stop larping as a christian it's EMBARRASSINGGGG
✝️ esztergom-örökké Follow
love seeing my mutuals reblogging this /s anyway op has multiple posts on their blog supporting quartering and human sacrifice. in case you were wondering. anyway stand with István
🐴 csillagösvény Follow
1) we dont even do human sacrifices, are you fucking stupid??? show me ONE post where i talk about that. 2) are you seriously forgetting that your bestie istván LITERALLY QUARTERED HIS UNCLE?????
#sorry to put this dumbass on the dash😭 dont even engage just block them #ur not making it up the tree of life lmao #discourse
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🌅 bolygó-kárpáti Follow
friendly reminder that just because you're white passing doesn't mean you're not a real magyar!! people with mixed parents are just as valid <3
🏇 attila-népe Follow
cranky coz ur ancestors decided to mix with the europeans arent you
🧺 lemezelő Follow
isnt your girlfriend literally frankish????
🏇 attila-népe Follow
you had to have done some serious stalking to find that💀 and first of all i didn't have a choice, my parents picked the tribe, and second of all she's not my "girlfriend" i got her via ritual kidnapping (WITH consent. before anyone gets weird)
🌐 a-kiber-kovács Follow
Couldn't you have kidnapped another magyar woman? Or someone from another mongoloid tribe?
🔅 hadúrsimp Follow
ohh sure so now human pet guy is gonna chime in to advocate for the kidnapping of our women while being lowkey racist. what are you even doing on nomadblr????
🌅 bolygó-kárpáti Follow
what the fuck happened to my post
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🪔 rakabonciás Follow
for the nth time, you're only a true shaman if you were born with teeth OR with extra fingers OR in the sac. the rest of you are faking & we can tell.
🦅szél-könnyű-szárnyán-szállj Follow
okay people keep spreading this but this is literally just wrong?? like congrats on the 6 fingers op im glad u and Little Golden Father have a special connection (genuinely) but like. táltos and sámán and mágus and garabonciás and javas etc are all different things with completely different requirements and life paths which you should definitely know if you're claiming to be one?? especially since your post says shaman but you're listing the criteria for a táltos, and your username looks like a play on garabonciás so. which is it🤔 maybe get your facts in order before trying to gatekeep
anyway don't listen to op!! your connection to the Upper World is yours alone and you're the best judge of what the Fathers and Mothers want your path in life to be!!
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🛐 mea-culpa Follow
It breaks my heart that the majority of my people still refuse to see the One True God and insist on sticking to their pagan spirits. I fear that when judgement day comes, we will all be wiped out thanks to their foul godless ways.
🐴 csillagösvény Follow
how tf am i godless when i literally have dozens of gods? little mothers and little fathers are in everything all around us & it must suck ass to live in a world where you're not surrounded by the small gods that inhabit everything. manifesting that the fene and the guta tag team beat your ass tonight
🔅 hadúrsimp Follow
hadúr will literally strike op down personally. he told me himself. whispered it to me sweetly even
🐴 csillagösvény Follow
while i agree with you, i feel like you might also have ulterior motives, nomadblr user hadúrsimp
#but live your truth! doubly so on the posts of these freak repressed bible lovers. meanwhile on the #COOL side of magyarhood we walk around butt ass naked!!! op have fun never experiencing joy ever again tho #discourse
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👑 sanctus-stephanus Follow
posting from an alt so i don't get cancelled but lowkey i'm starting to think koppány was right.... maybe this christianity thing isn't gonna work out after all
👑 sanctus-stephanus Follow
WRONG BLOG
👑 sanctus-stephanus Follow
THIS WAS A JOKE. IGNORE THIS
🪺 magánügyek Follow
ISTVÁN????????????? 💀
#the usernames wont make any sense unless ur hungarian and insane about the era im sorry. i hope the rest is funny to foreigners too tho🙏#i woke up in the middle of the night and typed out the majority of this then fell back asleep#hopefully that provides some nice extra context to jt#it's especially funny coz I've been meaning to make this post for like. legit at least 7 or 8 months now#so ig inspiration struck in the middle of the fkin night. finally. well here you go#dashboard simulator#dashboard sim#history#hun mythology#mythology#hun culture
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something that i can’t stand when it comes to this fandom is that basically no one can wrap their head around the fact that a victim can also be an abuser.
yes, rei was physically and emotionally abused by endeavor. yes, she was literally sold to him.
but she also just completely checked out and left fuyumi to pick up the slack.
yes, it’s not her fault that the abuse caused her to shut down, but as a result of that she neglected her children.
after she left fuyumi had to raise her brothers and become the woman of the house.
again, at the end of the day the root cause of the abuse is endeavor, but rei had checked out even before dabi's death.
it’s not victim blaming to point out the fact that rei neglected her kids. victim blaming would be saying that the abuse she suffered was her fault.
sometimes this fandom can be so fucking braindead. it’s always black and white, good or bad, hero or villain.
there is not a soul on this earth who is 100% a pure and good person.
all might, knowing full well what one for all contained and the massive responsibility that came with it. including an old wrinkly guy who will stop at nothing to take it, to a child and then proceed to not tell the aforementioned child what he was getting himself into. he with held crucial information because he knew that if he told izuku everything there was a chance he wouldn’t take it.
on the flip side, no one is 100% evil.
dabi cares deeply for the league, even though he doesn’t show it. shigaraki is literally the only person he will take orders from. some people may think he showed everyone hawks killing twice just for more ammo against the hero's. but thats not true at all. he cared about twice, and he wanted the world to know who he was. he wanted the hero’s to know that twice was human.
again i’m fucking rambling but i just hate how this fandom can be allergic to nuance and critical thinking.
I do think that many people do want a simple answer because at the end of the day it's easy to root for the good guys and boo the bad guys. There's also the fact that the narrative itself does sometimes struggle in creating a proper grey space morally.
Take for example the abuse victims in MHA. A lot of them are straight up innocent perfect heroes victims like izuku (who can never feel resentment in the narrative) and shoto while the others are straight up villains like Dabi and shigaraki. There's no in between with these characters and it's annoying. I remember talking with @mikeellee she has her saying of Shigaraki being the dark deku which honestly after that chapter where izuku comes into contact with a evil version of himself makes more sense.
I do agree with you in the sense that no one is 100% good or evil and in a way almost everyone is a victim to hero society. All might did willingly give a quirk that has a big responsibility to a naive quirkless child and all might is a bad mentor. However, at the same time all might is also a victim to a society he contributed to creating which is honestly so ironic and I wish horikoshi would explore these aspects of all mights character yet he doesn't and just gave us iron might (I dont like iron might tbh).
Also I love the fact that you brought up Rei himura and honestly Iam a big advocate for giving rei a redemption arc since it would of been more interesting and it would actually make sense to give her one than giving enji todoroki one. Rei was a victim and yes motherhood is difficult especially with the fact that she was abused and stripped of autonomy or agency but she also wasn't the best mother and that's something she does recognise in the narrative. My main problem however, is that the narrative doesn't allow her to fully engage with the family and she doesn't do much about it. Yes she apologises to both shoto and touya but what about her other children?!?! What about fuyumi who had to take on the role of a mother and shoulder a huge family burden? What about natsou who was also neglected?!?!. I say by giving rei himura a redemption arc the series can do so much that being actually involving the entire todoroki family into this, having more introduction to the hospital arc that may connect both touya and Rei and you can also have Rei make a connection with genten as @nyc3 suggested.
However, this also applies to the flip side. Characters like twice, shigaraki and Dabi aren't completely evil. Yes they have done bad things, yes they are bad people but they are also victims of the hero system and hero society. I do think that the leauge is a bit underdeveloped and I did definitely want more development between Dabi and shigaraki's while frenemies fiasco going on.
In the end I do think that almost every fandom may be allergic to nuance in one way or another. I do actually mean this because I remember seeing people try and say that Eren Yeager is completely good while some tried saying that he is completely evil but in reality he is complex and layered. You really can't put a definitive label on the aot characters because they all did their fair share of good and bad things and that's what makes them well written and enjoyable.
#mha critical#mha#bnha critical#mha fandom critical#bnha#thanks for the ask#bhna critical#thanks for the ask!#anti mha fandom#lov#all might#corrupt hero society#hero society#aot mentioned#characters cant be given such labels of good and bad#simply because they like humans are capable of doing both good and bad#rei himura deserves better#if someone is doing a rewrite give us a rei himura redemption#rei himura redemption
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[tma spoilers: sasha's arc, discussion of women in tma and general spoilers for s1-5]
i wanted to do a breakdown of how the tma fandom interprets the main cast of 'protagonist' women specifically pertaining to sasha's role in tma canon and how shes viewed in the fan sphere :)
i think its interesting how sasha is almost universally liked by tma fans when she was a very short-lived character with just about no screen time. its obviously tied to the fact that sasha was considered an ally by jon and the other original staff and they take measures to avenge her in some regard- this is perpetuated as shes painted as an obvious protagonist (one of the few who arent necessarily morally grey) with no real content to prove she had bad qualities. other women in tma have a considerable amount of content (im specifically referring to those working in the archives or having a large role in jon's life: georgie, melanie, basira, and daisy) which lets the audience see them in a more multi-faceted light. we see their rights and wrongs through jons eyes, and since they have more canon content, obviously they're more complex characters and they serve more nuanced narrative purposes. at the end of the day, sasha's use as a character was to drive the plot with a significant death and inspire a revenge or depression in the other characters, and she served this role perfectly. jon avenges her twice in s5 alone (smiting the not!them and then cursing her name at jonah) so we know she was very important pre-s1, but as the audience we just dont get to see that depth to her.
theres also the internalized misogyny that fandoms often have; sasha was the main and only female role in s1 (not counting gertrude since shes dead) and her relationships largely revolved around men. all of her coworkers were men, and we know they admired her. we know she was friends with them all individually and also glued them together in group settings. she had a "will they wont they" relationship (his words of course) with tim, and she was the character that introduced us to michael. the other more fleshed out women of tma had relationships largely revolving around other women. melanie and georgie were partners, melanie had moments were she was friends with basira, and basira and daisy came into the series as a package deal. when these characters are given the choice between choosing to help jon or choosing to help the woman closest to them, they dont choose jon. obviously this can rub the audience the wrong way, but it also showcases a loyalty to the idealized fanon interpretation of a woman over the canon multi-dimensional women we dont need to extrapolate on.
i get that its easier to like a female character when she's a protagonist who supported the male lead; and bonus points if shes such a vague character that anyone can paste their interpretations onto and it cant be "disproven". of course its sexier to leave things up to the imagination, but it just irks me to see people fawn over a (please forgive me) one dimensional character when more complex women exist in canon. people have the tendency to beg for flawed women in fiction then dislike them or ignore them when they get the representation they asked for. if you're willing to defend jon but not melanie, basira, daisy, or georgie, maybe ask yourself why.
disclaimer: i dont think anyone is a misogynist for liking sasha or preferring her over the other women in tma! i like both canon and fanon interpretations of her character and i wish we got to see more of her, but i do think theres something to be said about how the fandom treats her vs the other women in the cast. and i know im not at all the first to say it! i was just thinking about this as a general observation of fan content that ive seen and i dont mean to hate on anyone, their fan content, or sasha as a character!
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That post about an apparent social transition in college is just in absolute bad faith. To claim that Gerard lived as a woman in college but only had to stop because ‘she’ had to get a job completely distorts the facts that us mcr fans know. All Gerard said was this: ‘Really, I would do what I did when I dressed in drag this one time before. I went to school in drag, in art school and my day was completely different because everybody thought I was a chick’. Long time mcr fans like us know the facts, but new fans don’t, and girlgerard is quite literally lying to new fans because constructing Gerard as a trans woman gives them some weird pleasure. Mobilising accusations of transphobia towards anyone who doesn’t agree is also in such bad faith. It’s just completely moving the goal posts - people criticise them for being insensitive to trans people and intrusive towards gerard, they throw out the transphobe accusations. That way they can deflect from their own transphobia that manifests in transvestigating and fetishising trans women and gnc men. And most fundamentally of all - most people are not denying that gerard may be trans feminine. Girlgerard sees challenges to their transvestigating as trying to make Gerard cis in a transphobic way. But the actual fact of the matter is we respect Gerard. If Gerard came out as trans tomorrow we’d love and support them. Girlgerard on the other hand has no respect for Gerard. Rant over
AMEN!!!! literally when i read that tweet i was like...where did you come up with this information. bc yes i KNOW the interview in question, we all do. to construct your own truth that gerard lived as a woman in college for an 'undisclosed period of time' like. thats fake 😭 but of course its something that people who do not know all the lore will just eat right up as fact.
also them saying that he/they are not real pronouns that real people use and continue to use is craaaazy and yes literally transphobic.
also i like really can relate to gerard and the things hes said about not really subscribing or relating to masculinity in the same way that i feel about femininity. i keep my hair buzzed and i dont wear skirts or dresses but i still wear makeup and that like. is just who i am. the same way gerard can wear skirts and dresses and makeup and also like suits or jeans and his fucking green jackets. i will not attempt to label him because thats LITERALLY the problem here but like. idk it just overall gives off the vibe that they dont see nuance in gender...if gerard is not a man then he must be a woman?? its like were going back in time here.
and also btw yes of course. if gerard ever came out i would be so supportive and loving as always. if people close to gerard started using different pronouns we would follow suit. its just that simple. if those things never happen please just leave gerard alone and let them do whatever they want!
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like I've seen so many posts made by people of color (most of them not even religious!) that rightfully criticize and call out white atheism as a movement and the racism (against Natives and Muslims specifically) that's fucking rampant within it but because they had the audacity to imply that a white person being an atheist doesn't make them objectively incapable of racism and that white atheists do in fact have white privilege over religious Natives and Muslims everyone just calls the posts reactionary (ignoring the fact that a fuckton of white atheists are reactionaries and very anti-leftist themselves (TAA, anyone?)) and take the post as Some Religious Zealot Attacking Atheism rather than a nonwhite person criticizing a very real subset of racism disguised as legit criticism of religion.
these types of criticisms aren't about atheism vs religion, they're about whiteness and people using atheism to weaponize their whiteness against poc in the same way that white Christians use their Christianity to weaponize their whiteness against poc. it's about the fact that some forms of anti-theism can in fact be the result of racism sometimes. it's about the fact that you cannot say that you support Natives and then put the Native religions that were forcefully eradicated by colonialism on the same level as the White Western Christianity that replaced it. it's about the link between white atheist culture and the fundamentally racist Eurocentric standard of "intelligence". and if y'all feel this threatened by poc discussing these things and calling out your white atheist faves for their racism then y'all can go have a pleasant chat with and bond with racist right-wing Reddit bros about those barbaric Natives and violent Muslims while bragging about how Not-Reactionary you are I guess
idk where this recent trend of people implying if not outright stating that there are no valid criticisms of atheism as a community/culture/movement (esp white libertarian-brand atheism) and that everyone who's ever criticized somebody's atheism in any way no matter way is a reactionary by default but I can't say I'm fond of that tbh
#wak#spice tag#racism /#religion /#alright I'm done. now you are free to purposely misinterpret this post and ask me why I want to piss on the poor!#bc nuanced discussions about religion and atheism aren't a thing on here apparently!#but like#there was one post in particular that was like#'white men are often anti-theist bc they dont like the idea of being below anyone and poc or lgbt people are often anti-theist bc of trauma#and everyone was calling that a 'reactionary take'#meanwhile I as a black agnostic woman was like..#ok but. OP is. literally right though lmao???? like obviously this isn't Always the case but#like. have y'all ever noticed that the majority of white atheist personalities online are incredibly right-wing and anti-sj#and atheism as a movement is almost entirely dominated by reactionary white men who think white privilege isn't real#meanwhile almost every marginalized anti theist I've ever seen has suffered from homophobia and racism and etc as a child#said marginalized anti theists often actually talk about the evils of religion as an industry and the trauma they faced#while white atheist men just talk about how smart they are and little else#plus apparently 'not all religions are white Christianity' is reactionary now too and#I really. don't understand why???#no Christianity isn't the only religion with issues and people are allowed to criticize issues in all religions#but white Christians have an Insane level of privilege over religious Natives and Muslims#and they do in fact oppress both of these groups#Natives were literally punished and murdered if they practiced their own religion instead of Western Christianity#and Muslims are systemically abused and killed by the American Christian Institution#and guess what!!#white atheists are very much privileged over both of these groups!!#theists of color do not socially oppress white atheists!!!#even the most zealous of Christians will support a white atheist before they support a religious Native or a Muslim!!#and lumping religious Natives and Muslims in with their literal oppressors (aka Western Christians) is uuuuuhhh pretty fucking racist!!#but hey I guess I'm right-wing bigot now yet again bc per usual white people can't be held accountable for literally fucking anything!!
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kinda obligatory disclaimer i dont even really like maduro (the guy is barely left wing and he´s admittedly an "authoritarian" even if i dont like the word. this authoritarianism is probably somewhat more nuanced than the gov just doing it cause they are evil but like. some protesters have legit concerns!). that said i am kinda holding off on sharing any stuff on venezuela because im worried about the potential Consequences on public opinion. like while current conditions in venezuela are obviously not great, historically foreign intervention tends to make situations like this worse, and i am worried all these carrds ig infographics may feed a support for the idea
like that´s what bothers me about everytime we get one of these situations going, i don´t know if the people who share all this stuff really think about the potential consequences in public opinion, they just share appeals to emotion and thought terminating cliches about listening to venezuelan voices
also like, let´s be real ok? let´s be honest with ourselves. the only reason the situation gets as much attention as it does it´s because it´s part of an useful narrative for certain people in power. the current president of peru is a woman who no one voted for but no one outside peru cares because it´s not useful to them. all these western politicians pretending to give a shit about democracy and human rights are cynics
anyways i do sympathise with how it´s not easy to have a functioning country with all the sanctions but like. cuba has had all these sanctions but even worse (considering it´s a tiny island while venezuela is very resource rich) for triple the ammount of time and they´ve had more achievements in the matter of welfare for it´s citizens and socialising the means of production
i do think there´s some interesting stuff wrt socialism in venezuela, but not really from the psuv as it´s currently ran. i think the communes movement is interesting but idk how theyd fare under a machado goverment
so i guess my position is wanting to guarantee the independence of venezuela while giving the gov the bare minimum of support while hoping some alternative movement can achieve some more profound social change
(inb4 someone sends me asks with appeals to emotion instead of arguments: im a communist)
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this story is not just about two boys getting together. its slow growing, has miscommunication and misunderstanding and characters who dont behave in healthy ways because its about being human.
it talks a lot about the complexities and frustrations that come with being disabled in an ablebodied world and needing to unpack your privileges as someone who isnt disabled.
if you dont like miscommunication (something that literally all humans do) and learning and growing from our mistakes and assumptions then this media isnt for you. this isnt something only maya does. taichi and kohei do this too. other side characters do too. these characters arent one dimensional because this story is much more than the live drama.
theres volumes before and after this that the drama will likely never touch and im so disappointed by the ableism and misogyny running rampant after episode 7. maya isnt some evil woman coming in to just fuck up the dynamic of the couple. this story has always been about more than taichi and kohei getting together.
theres another character later on who is an obstacle between the hearing characters and those who are d/Deaf or HoH and i just know that some of the people criticizing maya for her intentions here will love that character for those same complexities because hes male.
disabled people dont owe you kindness or the benefit of the doubt when we are tired of people babying us or trying to help us just to feel better about themselves. and many of the people hating maya for making assumptions about who taichi is are doing the exact same thing when they hate her and call her evil, irredeemable and selfish.
the drama adaption also is not doing her justice and has leaned way too hard on her aggressive reaction to taichi instead of the walls that have been built to protect her wellbeing from ablebodied people wanting to feel good about themselves or to baby her because poor disabled person :(((
saying a character has no nuance, can have no redemption and is a plotting bitch in the episode they were literally introduced in is frankly an insane take
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How do you feel about "character joins bloodclan" aus? Im curious about ur thoughts since youre really in tune with the themes of the series but personally i just hate them bc its ALWAYS aimed at 'unfortunate' characters and always ALWAYS ignores the fact that bloodclan is a horrible place in-canon and that they're just reflavoring the abuse and trauma the characters qent through to be more emo or goth themed.
Ravenpaw is ALWAYS a prime target for this and its like. Great. You took the character being abused by their mentor figure and is being harmed from the violent culture the clan has generated... and giving them an EMO mentor figure who will inevitably abuse them and harm them as a result of the violent culture the emo clan has generated. Sasha is another one I've noticed- you've put the woman who lost her kit and is struggling to survive with the others while being controlled and abused by someone who sees her as an outsider (aka alone and easy to isolate), and are gonna put her in a faction who specifically separates kin from one another to easily control them and who have canonically tried murdering those who stick with their family. What was gained here.
Like i know bloodclan is revamped in ur au (thank god for it) but in canon bloodclan is HORRIBLE. People ignore that in favor of putting their favs into bloodclan bc bloodclan is cool and killed tigerstar that one time bc of revenge. Ravenpaw becomes Scourge AUS are SO SO SO much worse bc of this too- sure you manage to point out how scourge and raven has roughly similar stories in their youth but you could also do something interesting and make an au where raven and scourge are FOILS and do a firestar/scourge thing, while pointing this comparison out!! Instead you just went "Ravenpaw emo now and is sad about beating up Firestar his friend" and basically kept everything the same.
Sorry im basically venting here but i just dont like how people forget that scourge in canon does NOT look out for the 'little guy', he's a murderer and abuser who wants to keep his subjects afraid and separated so that he alone has power over them. Bloodclan is not the cool strong goth group, its the group where two cats slaughter eachother over a piece of twoleg scraps, only for the survivor to die bc the food was poisonous to cats and no one knew bc theres no cohesive group that can pass that knowledge around. its a fucking horrible place to live. Im not saying that you cant do interesting "character in bloodclan" aus (a Rusty who lives in bloodclan who STILL wants to do good but is shaped by the horrid reality of bloodclan would be fun imo) but its so often used with already traumatized characters as a 'solution' or 'fix-it with some emotional issues involved' that i just foam at the mouth and howl like a rabid animal on principle at this point.
Hmm... I think for me, it doesn't tend to read that way for me when the fandom makes AUs for it. I'm coming at BloodClan from a point of really deep critique and frustration.
BloodClan's not a REAL place, and what that means is, every speck of how horrible it was is a choice the writers made to justify its treatment. It was something they actively decided, because, BloodClan was a tool to suddenly invalidate the previous 5 books of TPB so that the series could comfortably conclude there was no need to upset the status quo.
If you haven't read it before, I recommend this post I made on how Darkest Hour Is A Personal Disappointment, but anyway;
We spend a whole series on how Fireheart challenges a broken society, because he is different. Their xenophobia, how isolationism and glory get people killed, the way that Tigerstar's greatest asset is how respected he is... these are bad things. They're things that Fireheart fights for several books.
But then, in the LAST book, in the 11th inning, they introduce BloodClan. They're just evil. They have no nuance. The narrative bends over backwards to stress that this group of evil foreigners LOVES murder, hates friendship, and doesn't believe in our good god.
Suddenly, the Clan cats have to be EXTRA xenophobic and glorious to kill these filthy, murderous foreign hordes. Clan cat belief in their good god makes them stronger than the bloodthirsty barbarians. Firestar kills Scourge and we can feel happy and triumphant about it, when Tigerstar was killed a few chapters ago and given a tragic sendoff.
So, I encourage you to step back from an emotional response to how Filthy and Murderous this group was portrayed, and look at it as a writing choice.
When Tigerstar, known cat-racist and murderer of mixed-race people, is killed by Scourge in self-defense, he is grieved by Firestar and commended for his "good qualities". (and then they retconned in that it was actually secretly revenge all along, not just self defense, so this killing is extra evil)
When Scourge is killed, Firestar just thinks about how it's cool he's not going to heaven, and how all of the previously ferocious BloodClan warriors look so inferior to the forest Clans.
And so, with all that said,
I'm 100% in favor of how the fandom widely looks at this, says, "fuck that" and just makes them the Cool Goth Group. I'd argue pretty strongly that the least nuanced idea of that is still infinitely better than canon.
There was nothing there. It was literally just Xenophobia-Is-JustifiedClan. They literally hated love and friendship and banned families so that Clan cats would look good in comparison. Banned families. You don't get this level of stupid evil from anything else but an 80s cartoon.
Maybe I just don't see the AUs you tend to see (I curate my Tumblr experience very well and generally hang out in more adult-oriented spaces, I can imagine a place like Amino being mostly kids who tend to be immature. Edgelord Angstpiddle is just a normal part of growing up), but every project I see that gives me a glimpse of BloodClan Ravenpaws and Sashas come with such tweaks already assumed.
Like, these are examples I've seen,
They'll have Raven be involved with the formation of BloodClan
Scourge will actually be a character with some pity and mercy, like how he was in Rise of Scourge when his abusive siblings begged him for food, and he fed them before sending them away.
no ban on love and friendship. Lol. Lmao, even.
More of the social structure will be based around acquiring food for people in a 'harsh' environment, leading to that battle, instead of just Evil Foreign Greed (which canon!scourge only had after being almost killed by tigerstar, because he said "actually, in light of new information that you are a murderer, i need to reconsider our deal.")
BloodClan will be overhauled completely. I've seen this a few ways. Connecting them to SkyClan, or the Oakstar raids on Chelford, or even as a positive entity; a surprise ally. (VERY common with BloodClan Ravenpaw AUs I've seen).
Anyways... (Shrug), I dunno dude, it doesn't bother me that much.
#and remember. BloodClan is 1 of 3 actively hostile evil foreigner groups with no nuance.#4 if you also count Slash's rogues as their own entity and not just a continuation of One's.#This is NOT a treatment ever EVER given to Clanborn cat factions.#Berryh's hate crime club is being treated with more kindness than this.#None of Mud's supporters were punished for attempted murder or treason. Or anything.#And there is only ONE DF trainee who was Dark Forested after his death.#So anon I'm so sorry but I am your worst enemy u_u#We will fight at dawn#I think that one barley map is super awesome and it's the only time I ever really liked canon BloodClan#I like to imagine my own version in my head when I watch BloodClan-related art because canon BloodClan bugs me so bad#The xenophobia in this series is so blatant and yet so overlooked
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no girl tell us what you think about jegulily!! im so here for it (tone is weird but I mean that genuinely, I don't ship them so I'm not here to be weird)
dw bae ur tone is fine ! (i’ve been waiting for an ask like this 💀) i think jegulily is... yeah its…. like usually as long as its legal idgaf as long as shippers portray their characters right but regulus fans are literally incapable 😭🙏 WHY WOULD U PAIR A MUGGLEBORN AND A BLOOD SUPREMACIST IM SO DONE WITH DIS FANDOMMMM!! that actually goes for a lot of lily ships like bartylily as well (no clue where that came from either but it’s equally as stupid lmfao).
and jegulily just feels like shoving in lily because people feel bad for ditching her, or shoving in regulus because some people like jily and jegulus and want them (for some reason) to coincide even though it makes zeroooo sense for it to. like, idk if i said this with jegulus before (i yap sm on this account i forget what i say), but like it, jegulily can be done well if a realistic dynamic is taken into account, but the marauders fandom is allergic to nuance and so just chalks up everything regulus does and believes to his neglectful homelife. hes not all-bad, sure, i do feel bad for him, but im nowhere close to shipping him with a woman whos part of the people hes trying to eradicate, or with her man who purposefully went against all pureblood tradition (which is such a large part of james’ character— he is a pureblood that chooses to be seperate from that culture hellooooo plz wake uppppp).
marauders fandom has a chronic “i can fix him” mentality when it comes to wizard neo nazis, i have never understood it. but thats a topic for another day.
jegulily should be filled with envy, toxicity and prejudice stop nerfing it to be some fluffy feel-good polyamorous stable marriage where they raise harry together. yall are looking over the potential. this ship has blood and guts in it plz act like it or else idk what to say 😭 if it doesnt end with at least one of them getting murdered i dont want it.
#imho it just feels willfully ignorant of all three characters to ship them#this goes with most the regulus ships tbh except like bartylus. bcuz barty is just terrible too LOL#just characterise ur characters right people. not to majority fanon interpretation but to who they are CANONLY#you may think its less fun but to me. that’s honestly what makes those three so appealing#+its generally important to understand the media u consume. and yes. that means harry potter as a book series if ur in the marauders fandom#u are not seperate from the hp books if u are attached to its characters (no matter how far youve spun their personalities away)#on a seperate note people are allowed to ship what they want and im being lowkey serious when i say im not gonna find someone weird if they-#-ship something as long as its legal#maybe some jegulily people follow me so let me just say i dont hate the shippers i just heavily dislike the ship 😭#worse than jegulus but somehow less annoying idk how to explain it#harry potter#hp#marauders#marauders era#anti jegulus#anti jegulily#lily evans#jily#pro jily#james potter#lily potter#regulus black#anti regulus black#the marauders era#the marauders#ask#anon#rewriting#tyyyy anon for the ask i luv to yap 🫶🫶
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I am not sure how to phrase this properly but with all the CSM stuff, pre-nut madness is also manifested differently between the genders at least stereotypically in the west.
You're on tumblr, you see all the girls on here and their demons when they get horny. Except the regret is usually manifested as more of an "ew I cant believe I slept with X or did Y" where the guy gets blocked or implicitly denigrated, and it is more of a somewhat silly mistake. Implicitly or explicitly there is the notion that the pre-nut madness woman was simply misguided and why would she ever stoop so low but oh well, that wasn't the real her but okies all is forgiven.
But with guys there is a lot more internalized and externalized shame with horniness and especially pre/post-nut clarity. Not to do the "men X women Y double standard" card because there is a bit of similarities in regrettable hookups specifically, but when it comes to transgressing personal boundaries is where i think it is different. Doing something deeply transgressive sexually as a male regardless of how you feel about it, is often seen far more as who you truly are or letting your secrets out for lack of a better term. That you are judged more for your lowest lows as indicative of who you really are.
So Denji can't have a deeply shameful and self-loathing view of sexuality and human connections, either he is taken advantage of, or he really likes it, at least according to a lot of people on here. This doesn't really make much sense, sorry you dont have to publish it and it is hard to describe but there is a very male-centric sense of shame and self hatred and vulnerability around sex that is hard to explain and I think CSM is one of the few to really get the nuance of wanting something, having it, and then hating yourself for it in a way little else has been able to convey. To want to open yourself up and be vulnerable but also be disgusted by the fact that a part of you has been laid bare and you know logically sex isnt that taboo and lots of other people have it but at the same time you think something is wrong with you specifically.
#I could say a lot more about this topic but I’m just going to let this anon stew for the people#anon#chainsaw man
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OK MULTIPLE THINGS:
1) The hachijo clan were indeed renegade devils that fled Azazel, and based on the way its said above, they seem to be the only ones who had the devil gene after Azazel was sealed and his followers "dealt with"
2) they seem to have retconned (or at least, nuanced) the Hachijo clan being some sort of shadow peacekeepers, instead now they just knew how dangerous their hereditary powers were so so to be... safe i assume? theyd rather control the world to control how theyre perceived, aka not at all. It also keeps the mainline reason why Kazumi married into the Mishima family: it's a wealthy and powerful family with lots of influence in the world, of course the clan would want to have a way in.
3) HEIHACHI SLAUGHTERED ALL OF THEM? DAMN.
4) "there was yet a baby girl whom Heihachi permitted to live." Ok. Lots to unpack here:
The natural assumption would be that this baby girl is Reina, of course, and then this would imply some things.
"Permitted to live" is such an odd way of talking about his own baby. Dont get me wrong, this fits Heihachi's character, but still, it kinda make it sounds like he found that baby girl
WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT REINA IS NOT HIS BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER. "But Dam, the lightnings-!" was assumed to be a Mishima family trait, yes, but the tekken monks (Seiryu esp.) HAVE electricity coming out of their hand during ewgfs (and not even exclusively). Maybe they are very distant family relatives of the main Mishima branch, but even then... or maybe we had it wrong and the electricity comes naturally with a well enough mastery of the Mishima fighting style and not biologically (which would be insane actually)
But even if Reina really is a baby Heihachi spared, now there is the issue of the timeline: there is NO FUCKING WAY Reina is actually older than Jin, meaning that if Heihachi found/had her, it wouldve been during the gap between t2 and t3. BUT THEN:
You mean to tell me Heihachi waited 25+ YEARS after the death of his wife before wiping out the Hachijo clan and THEN after that found/had baby Reina? That, or Reina is actually in her forties and thats bullshit.
I say all that, but maybe he spared another woman which whom he then had Reina, and so she's indeed his biological child? Maybe, but look at the way it's written above, he spared ONE (1) Hachijo.
There could be one disturbing way this could make sense, being that Heihachi wiped the Hachijo clan immediately after Kazumi's death (when Kaz was 5), the spared Hachijo baby girl above is actually Reina's mother with whom Heihachi then had Reina during the t2-t3 gap, making her both a Hachijo and his biological child, BUT I GENUINELY DO NOT BELIEVE they would go as far as making Heihachi an actual fucking groomer.
SO BASED ON THIS SMALL PARAGRATH: either Reina is NOT Heihachi's actual daughter and he found and raised her, or some Hachijo woman had a baby with Heihachi before HE FUCKING KILLED HER WITH THE REST OF HER FAMILY(???), the timeline doesnt make sense unless Heihachi didnt kill every Hachijo in one go.
Anyway maybe none of that matters but Reina is too much of an important character for it NOT TO and those last two sentences are going to haunt me until we get maybe an answer.
#this paragrath is actually fucking lethal. like what the fuck am I supposed to do about it now#tagging later
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had two different convos about Imane Khelif with two different white cishet male coworkers.
one was clearly only informed by propaganda and unwilling to "lose" an argument. he's the one who first brought it up, and started spouting the same bs thats all over the internet. he didnt even know Khelif's first name or what country she's from. and once i addressed his initial statements he changed his point of "concern" several times just for the sake of continuing to disagree with me. he continued to talk only to quite obviously make a fool of himself in front of everyone.
the second guy, having overheard the first argument, was a bit confused/concerned about the whole thing but willing to look things up, think critically, and accept a new point of view. he also had a more nuanced idea of gender than you would expect by looking at him to begin with, and by the end of the discussion was even on board with trans people being included in sports. he not only acknowledged that Khelif isnt a trans woman, but he was willing and wanting to take the discussion further and examine the implications of things and the relevance of trans and racial issues. he wasnt sure whether or not she was trans at first, but was willing to look at facts rather than making racist assumptions. and his immediate reaction to those facts was still "well even if she *was* trans, why does that matter?" which is a better response than even some self-proclaimed "allies" have had recently.
i dont really know what the point of this post is lol. i guess just, dont judge a book by its cover. people may be more accepting than you would think; even if theyre uninformed, some are willing to genuinely listen.
another lesson, maybe, is that these conversations are equally worth having whether the person is willing to listen or not.
both of these guys started out either uninformed or misinformed. one was more open minded, the other not. those are all pre-established factors that i cant control or know before deciding to engage. but its worth engaging anyways.
if i hadnt had the "unproductive" talk with the first guy, the second talk may not have even happened. and who knows how many other guys listening may have learned something too. even the first guy conceded some points by the end of it, he was just too defensive to admit it. i had no way to know whether i would get through to anyone. but it's always at least worth a shot i think.
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