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flamesbetween · 1 month ago

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i decided to take that daemon quiz for all the scratchverse chars so here are the results:

Seth (Scratch):

Reserved, quiet, and hard-working, with a tender heart and calloused knuckles. Crazy social anxiety, but also has this zone they get into for performing.

Milk Snake (Serpent)

wow I love Themes and Symbolism —

Serpent: "Those who have serpent daemons are sly and observant people whose aim is to endure. They are mysterious and private, deeply intellectual and preferably three steps ahead of everyone else. They live in the big picture rather than day by day, and their vanity is well-deserved."

Milk Snake: "You are a private but polite individual who looks before they leap. [...] Milk snakes are tactful and shrewd people with high standards, preferring their comfort zone but calm in the face of change. They are classically passive aggressive and hate conflict, willing to take advantage of others to avoid negative attention and regain their peace."

I'd say it's not 100% spot on, as Seth isn't really that manipulative, but it's fairly close. If I were to go through the options and pick I might go for a boa instead, or maybe a vine snake, but milk snake still works, at least to some extent.

Annie (Electrojet):

Annie is shrewd, not very personable, strong beliefs. Firm, confident in certain situations, but anxious in times of change, not talkative, except for info dumps or overexplaining, etc. (#autism)

and according to the quiz she is:

A little owl:

Owl: "Those who have owl daemons are intelligent and precise, though unlike other bird daemons they exude pure logic. They are observant and critical, preferring [subtlety] and independence when it comes to pursuing their goals."

Little owl: "You are a private and dutiful individual who is selectively affectionate towards those you care about. More so than others with owl daemons, those with little owls are sensitive people, not terribly ambitious and more concerned with planning ahead and developing their inner strength. They're very self-sufficient and have no qualms about communicating that to others."

Fits her pretty well, imo

Naomi (Geckonyx):

Naomi is talkative, social, lots of friends/acquaintances, always speaks her mind. Loves to learn, a little competitive. Also goes to therapy, talks about her feelings. Morning person.

Result:

Magpie (perching bird)

Perching bird: "Those who have perching bird daemons are intelligent and like finding patterns, though unlike other bird daemons they are more chatty and social. They enjoy putting their inner thoughts into words and wearing their heart on their sleeves."

Magpie: "You are a clever and cryptic individual who has a talent for graceful communication. More so than others with perching bird daemons, those with magpies have insatiable curiosity and tend to get distracted by possibilities. They love hidden meanings and uncovering the unknown."

I'm not so sure about graceful communication or crypticness (although, as a stealthy character…) but she is generally clever and curious so it still fits

TJ (REfactor):

A boisterous, friendly guy who deals with his neuroses by being extremely chill and yet very high-strung. Moves too fast but is incredibly devoted.

Squirrel monkey (primate):

Primate: "Those who have primate daemons are socially savvy and charismatic people who know how to get on people’s good sides. They’re often inspiring leaders, though just as often manipulators with strong intuition. They have a gift for understanding and are led by their insatiable curiosity."

Squirrel monkey: "You are a playful and light-hearted individual with insatiable curiosity. More so than others with primate daemons, those with squirrel monkeys are cheeky and get by [on] the skin of their teeth. They are humorous people with a quick energy about them."

Diana (Doctor Wormwood):

Diana is extroverted, sometimes intense, very polite except when larping or doing theater tech stuff, very repressed, very angry. Kind of a perfectionist. Bad at prioritizing her own needs.

Badger (Mustelid):

Mustelid: "Those who have weasel daemons are sneaky and inquisitive people who don't take no for an answer when there's something they want. They aren't afraid of breaking rules to get to where they want and are naturally subtle and cheeky individuals."

Badger: "You are a hardworking and confident individual who readily stands up for themselves. More so than others with weasel daemons, those with badgers are competitive and crave success, and they dutifully plan ahead to achieve it. They are private but typically peaceable people, always putting their ambition and sense of organization first."

Angel (Novaglow):

Angel is playful and lighthearted, theatrical and carefree, very sociable and always up for a challenge.

Ocelot (Wild cat):

Wild cat: "Those who have wild cat daemons are proud and confident people who radiate strength. They aren't necessarily the most talkative, but they have the largest presence in the room wherever they go. As natural leaders, the companions of these individuals know it's their way or the highway."

Ocelot: "You are an intuitive and focused individual who is deeply private. More so than others with wild cat daemons, those with ocelots have clear perspective and an interest in discovering what's happening beneath the surface. They are very socially aware and weigh all possible outcomes before making a decision."

Interesting 🤔

I think, of the wildcat options, tiger is actually a better fit, but ocelot isn't too far off at all.

Tiger: "You are a courageous and confident individual who emphasizes balance in your life. More so than others with wild cat daemons, those with tigers are deeply introspective and see their raw emotions as power. They are patient and practical people who have learned just how much they can bite off before they can't chew."

Tama (Le Grand Chevalier):

A diva, a star, very bombastic person with big aspirations and goals.

Stoat (Mustelid):

Stoat: "You are an independent and strong-willed individual with no lack of confidence. More so than others with weasel daemons, those with stoats have a nervous and energetic energy, and are forceful people who would rather ram right into conflict than avoid it. They aren't the hardest of workers, but they're exceptionally stubborn and have an impulsive streak."

Sonam (Solomon):

Withdrawn, closed off, stubborn, a slow-burning but explosive temper.

Barn Owl:

"You are a loyal and perceptive individual who tackles adversity with patience. More so than others with owl daemons, those with barn owls are shy and passive, notorious planners that aren't particularly ambitious, but able to be flexible and adapt to changing situations. They are devoted to their loved ones and dependent on their support."

"a melanistic barn owl may be indicative of a secretive and ostracized person"

Micaela (Veritas):

Headstrong, stubborn, working to dismantle the system from the inside, but also a romantic at heart with a fondness for puns and the great outdoors. Lives on a boat, which ended up relevant because:

Elephant seal (Pinniped):

(LOL)

Pinniped: "Those who have pinniped daemons are cheerful and imaginative people who know how to work hard and play hard. They are known for their boundless creativity and often have their head in the clouds, excelling exceptionally at one area of their life."

Elephant seal (LMAO): "You are a loud and competitive individual who doesn't mind rocking the boat. More so than others with pinniped daemons, those with elephant seals are gregarious and like to brag about their successes. They are creative and strong people who know it."

Pink Gemini:

Very patient, very good at smiling rage. Flaky, inconsistent, showoff, rakish, very competitive. Slightly lackadaisical/"lazy" (adhd) and prefers to slack off, not work hard etc. Life is a game to her, but also she is winning. Or trying to. She is often super manipulative and leading in her charms, but occasionally very blunt. Very spontaneous.

Kookaburra (Cavitave):

Cavitave: "Those who have cavitave daemons are proud and talkative people who are natural showoffs. They thrive in the spotlight and are naturally charismatic and admirable people, though they aren't known for being particularly patient or sincere."

Kookaburra: "You are a confident and gregarious individual who likes to laugh through life. More so than others with cavitave daemons, those with kookaburras are lazy and optimistic, but still maintain an edge when crossed. playful and affectionate people, which often masks their competitive side and the high standards they hold themselves and everyone else to."

by far the funniest result to get for a character I've described as a cross between Harley Quinn, the Taskmaster, and Deadpool.

Black Taurus:

Very closed off, obedient, but does not want to be doing bad things. She is desperate, powerful, very quiet, antisocial, and dependent on others. Super protective. A follower, not a leader, but immensely stubborn and does actually have morals. Devoted above all else to providing for her brother and making sure he is safe.

She does not take time off, she does not play, she is not free to be herself. But when she puts her mind to something, it gets done. She is also far too trusting and gullible, while also being distrusting. It's an odd balance.

Chow (Domestic Dog):

Domestic dog: FUCK. SHE SURE IS. "Those who have domestic dog daemons are loyal and service-oriented people who love to be in the presence of others. They offer guidance and protection to those they cherish, though are typically obedient to an individual, cause, or service."

Chow: "You are an aloof but protective individual who is hard to get to know but easy to love. More so than others with dog daemons, those with chows hold others at a distance until they know they can trust them. They are the guardians of their friends and strong-willed when they know something is wrong. A darker-colored chow may indicate someone more independent and private."

I also looked at the other options and considered rottweiler but imo chow works pretty well

Nekromantis:

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss

Snow leopard (wild cat):

Snow leopard: "You are an intuitive and self-reliant individual who maintains a balance in their life. More so than others with wild cat daemons, those with snow leopards are known for their independence and quiet wisdom. They are often socially removed, deeply internal and concerned with philosophy or big picture issues."

Like money and profit. Lmao.

Lilith (The Psykopomp):

Walled-off, bitter, envious, dramatic and secretly in need of tenderness and being known.

Caracal (wild cat):

Caracal: "You are an observant and thoughtful individual who is deeply private. More so than others with wild cat daemons, those with caracals are independent and self-preserving, excelling in the specific area of life they've carved out for themselves. They have strong boundaries and prefer to only depend on themselves."

Cyberstorm:

Internet troll, porn addict. Wildly antisocial but also very outgoing online, but very introverted irl, with basically no friends.

Falcon (raptor):

Raptor: "Those who have raptor daemons are intellectual and precise, though unlike other bird daemons they also symbolize active and ambition. They are logical but confident, often preferring to work alone in relentless pursuit of their goals."

Falcon: "You are an intense and shrewd individual. More so than others with raptor daemons, those with falcons are highly tenacious and obsessive over their goals. They are efficient and driven, observant people who become restless when they have nothing to focus their attention on."

Miserychord:

Considers themself to be a mercy killer, but ultimately they have been led astray by the notion of humanity's supposed inherent evil.

Sphynx cat:

Domestic Cat: "Those who have domestic cat daemons are proud survivalists who look before they leap. They have a special connection with luck and like to expand upon their natural talents, though you can expect them to get going when the going gets tough."

Sphynx: "You are a mischievous and outgoing individual who is known for their wit. More so than others with cat daemons, those with Sphynxes tend to be cunning and ambitious. They always have their eye on the prize and hate being bored. A solid-colored black Sphynx indicates someone more ambitious and devious."

Such a funny result for the dark mori-kei goth psionic bowman.

Luce (Arcana Royale):

(Diana's older brother) Idealist, like, wow. Very Law Abiding. Gets up early, stays up late. Wants to be part of something big, wants to live up to expectations, never let anyone down. Can be a little self-absorbed/arrogant and prideful lol, does not like to sacrifice his pride or be humiliated, even though he wants to always help those in need. He is more calm than Diana, but still can get pretty rowdy. More patient, still intense.

Fjord horse:

huh.

Equine: "Those who have equine daemons are free-spirited and victorious, known to follow their hearts in pursuing their dreams. Though willful, their dislike for conflict lands them in positions of helping others. Even still, their deeply value their own ideas and are led by their big dreams."

Fjord Horse: "You are a strong-hearted and plucky individual who doesn't let anything get them down. More so than others with equine daemons, those with Fjords are eager to rise to challenges and have boundless determination. They are known for their hardworking, gregarious, and supportive nature."

Daniel Saint-Fleur (The Harvestman):

Oh buddy. Closed off, private, untrusting, deeply repressed, afraid, dutiful, unhappy, resigned to his fate as nothing more than a weapon. Would recoil at the idea that he is selfish, because of the way he has been groomed. Thinks he is lazy, worthless. Driven in like… being perfect.

Got a fucking...

Bandicoot (Marsupial):

Marsupial: "Those who have marsupial daemons are protective and giving people who typically have an unusual or quirky perspective on life. They are creative individuals good at inspiring their loved ones, notably quiet until something riles them up." Interesting…

Bandicoot: "You are a private and anxious individual with a determined streak. More so than others with marsupial daemons, those with bandicoots are independent people who don't often trust others; they have strong boundaries and are defensive when they're pushed. They're very proactive and focused on accomplishments, and are intense about ensuring the success of their projects."

It's like, on the money And Yet. SO fucking funny. Guy rolls up in all black, leather duster, steel horse of a motorcycle, skull mask, double-wielding blue-glowing mana revolvers… and his familiar is a bandicoot.

Instachill:

Judgmental, easily annoyed, "get out of my way!" Surprisingly charismatic/socially skilled despite being kind of harsh and standoffish. Not willing to sacrifice everything, or even just pride, just for some dumb goal; driven but knows when to quit. Extremely competitive and cutthroat. Not nice.

Osprey (raptor):

Osprey: "You are a precise and observant individual who seeks to master challenges. More so than others with raptor daemons, those with ospreys are more emotionally in-tune with themselves. They are patient but decisive when they are moved to act, and are unafraid of authority who go against their moral compass."

A sea bird is weirdly fitting for cold powers.

Unnamed Mushroom Lady:

(I'll get to it.)

I'm weird. I'm a weirdo. I don't fit in. And I don't want to fit in. Please love me. Opinionated esp about the law and its unfairness. Thinks she is the smartest person in any given room. Kind of arrogant. Fiercely independent. Very adaptable.

Pika (Lagomorph):

Lagomorph: "Those who have rabbit daemons are observant and prosperous people known for their anxious energy. They prepare for the worst and never expect the best, and they most relish their creative downtime with others in the comforts of home."

Pika: "You are a dutiful and stubborn individual who always plans ahead. More so than others with rabbit daemons, those with pikas are introverted and like their alone time, and prefer to go about things independently. They are proud people who most value their own opinion, and they don't hesitate about asserting themselves to others."

Geoff Rust (Ozymandias):

Asswipe. CEO. Like if Norman Osborn was Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

Lion (wild cat):

Lion: "You are an authoritative and courageous individual who has a large sense of dignity. [...] Those with lions are drawn towards leading causes and have a natural brash and self-assured nature. They are proud and just people, whose confidence makes their tempers flare when challenged."

"When deciding on your daemon's appearance, consider if your lion bears a mane. A lion with a dark mane could indicate an individual who is commanding and private. [...] Large manes would imply someone who is established and overflows with confidence."

I mean, if we go by His Dark Materials rules it would be a lioness but if we're just assigning him a fursona, I'd do a big, dark mane.

Worst part about Rust getting a lion is he would be soooo fucking smug about it too lmao

I also did some for minor/supporting characters but this post is too long so I'll just do a bulleted list:

Irma: Sea lion

Bijou: Komodo dragon

Casey: Clydesdale (imo white or gray prince charming style)

Mark: Woodpecker (either pileated or downy imo)

Saleha: Ladybug 🐞

Deacon: Blue Jay (LOL) (Steller's Jay)

Mei: Roadrunner

Mar: Cape Buffalo

Madelyn: Wildebeest

(For reference: all the possible results are on this spreadsheet made by colombiche)

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teecupangel · 1 year ago

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If Desmond ever ended up in the Persona 5 universe, I wonder what he would think of the Phantom Thieves? Would he be a confidant for Akira/Ren/Joker, be a neutral party? Become a Phantom Thief himself? I can't help but think that because of his Bleeds, he'd end up having his ancestors show up as Personas to help him fight in the Metaverse.

Ngl, I wanna make Desmond the Sun because of my penchant of giving Desmond something related to the very thing that killed him but based on his ‘situation’, these are the Arcanas that Desmond can be part of in my opinion:

Aeon (many of the Aeon Personas have an affinity to light and a common theme for Aeon representatives are that they are unfamiliar with the world they are in and are struggling to find their place in this world which describes Desmond’s current predicament and also… there’s no Aeon confidant in P5 so Desmond won’t be sharing this spot with anyone or, worse, won’t be removing an existing confidant)

Sun (A character in a lonely and most of the time terribly situation, signifying the hopelessness of them succeeding with the end results being them having to reflect on their situation and coming to peace with themselves and what is happening to them)

Moon (being attuned subconsciously to the world around someone, gaining the ability to sense things without being told about them, or without anyone else knowing, this arcana is also sometimes called the Arcana of Lies and Deceit which Desmond would be doing anyway because there’s no way he’ll tell the truth)

Death (metamorphosis and deep change, regeneration and cycles… which can also hint on Desmond’s origin as someone not from this world)

Personally, I do see Desmond as a Phantom Thief and acting like the cool older brother type to these teenagers. But being a neutral party seems more like his style, considering… everything.

So I would suggest we make Desmond a neutral party the Phantom Thieves meet up with in the Metaverse from time to time, mostly in Mementos because, in his own words ‘something calls to me here’.

The Phantom Thieves don’t know he’s the same bartender that works at Crossroads who would always give Joker a Shirley Temple whenever he’s on break. Lala told Joker that Desmond looked ‘lost’ so she helped him out (in more ways than one, Lala actually thinks Desmond is undocumented and helped him be an ‘upstanding citizen’…)

Desmond, for his part, is just happy that, for some reason, he knows Japanese? He has a feeling it’s one of his Bleed and many people tell him he speaks like he’s from a period drama so yeah, there’s that (it’s one of his Ibn-La'Ahad ancestors who knew Japanese because they chased the Mongols to Japan)

As for Desmond’s Persona…

It would be funny to give him Minerva or Juno as a Persona but we’re not that evil. Another idea would be to give him Dionysus for our usual ‘Desmond could totally be Dionysus’ Sage’ idea that pops in and out XD

Although…

So we’re going to make Desmond special because he’s our blorbo and we’ll use the Persona 1 and 2 plot of how the characters get their Persona.

He does the Persona game because he was bored one day XD

And that’s how he starts to hear Mementos’ call.

And while he journeys in Mementos by himself, that’s when he encounters the Shadows… of his Bleeds.

Confronting them (which always ends in a boss fight) ends with him receiving their Arcana and his Bleeds become his Personas.

His Bleeds’ Arcanas:

Altaïr: Hermit (wisdom, introspection, solitude, retreat and philosophical searches)

Ezio: Judgment (associated with realizing one's calling, gaining a deep understanding of life and a feeling of acceptance and absolution)

Ratonhnhaké:ton: Hanged Man (sometimes self-sacrificial or self-loathing, but are more often notable for being caught between two different extremes, parties or stages in life of which they have little to no control – always in the middle of two opposing forces and he’s doing his best to protect his people given what’s happening) or Strength (associated with the morality about the stronger power of self-control, gentleness, courage and virtue over brute force)

Haytham: Emperor (desire to control one's surroundings, and its appearance could suggest that one is trying too hard to achieve this, possibly causing trouble for others; some elements in life are just not controllable)

Desmond’s real Arcana and his own Persona (which may or may not be some biblically accurate angel-like figure with all of his Bleeds around a small orb similar to the Apple of Eden in the same veins of the Norns design) will only awaken after Joker reaches max level with him.

Also, the Phantom Thieves don’t know it’s him because his form in the Metaverse is always hooded with the robes changing depending on which Persona he uses (at the start, they thought it was different dudes until Desmond changed Personas in midbattle)… and yes, that includes Haytham. Desmond gets a hood too even when he’s using Haytham but he also has Haytham’s tacohat. Them’s the rules.

Arcana symbolism from megamitensei.fandom.com

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