#anti enzo st john

[vervaincircle]

suggesting kai is worse than enzo is already a pretty generous statement if you make a list of their amount of kills and also break down their character arcs

kai is only worse in that we’ve seen him target children (his own family) on screen. but what’s nice about kai is there’s no pretense— the show treats him like he’s a bad person instead of sucking him off and ignoring the evil shit he did like with damon and enzo

also bonnie is capable of (and did) overpower kai and win. she has killed him before. she has multiple arcs that are morally dubious. katherine is explicitly a villain while bonnie was made to be a martyr hero, but like? 😭 that doesn’t mean bonnie needs to be handled with kid gloves and be the only one exempt from a dark ship out of all of the main girls. and if you only feel that way about bonnie but ship the other girls with klaus or damon or whatever then that’s really weird imo

it doesn’t help that enzo was basically the finch to bonnie. bonnie fans begged julie to put her with the mikaelsons (give her a ship like elena and caroline had) and they spat in their faces for years and then dropped enzo down on her as a consolation prize (AND THEN KILLED HIM 😭) right after he was done trying to fuck damon’s mom… dawg.

[bonkai4ever94]

Enzo was a weird choice out of all the characters to keep around there wasn't nothing for him to do his obsession with stefan and 🙄damon was not only weird but annoying they loved having all these characters obsessed with these salvatore brothers when bonnie was right there

[bonkai4ever94]

I can't stand Enzo in general so I didn't want him with anyone much less bonnie she deserved a worthy love interest and he wasn't it

Caroline didn't need anymore men either she had enough love interests that they could have put her with she didn't need to steal bonnies too

Its 2 am and i just saw a caroline enzo ship edit and some comments saying they should have had one bed scene or something it bothering me sm because caroline has 1) more than enough love interest and 2) even if i dont like bonnie x enzo that much its still lowkey aggravating that bonnie cant even have her only decent love interest to herself idk im going to bed not worth getting worked up about

[mythorhuman]

What about Bonnie's canon ships? Do you think they had potential?

Soooo, I'm rarely on here these days and I'm super inconsistent with checking my inbox. I have no idea when this was sent. Sorry!

Anyway, screw them. I can't put into words how much I hate Bonnie's canon ships. The way people completely disregard Jeremy's disloyalty and infidelity makes me sick. The devil tried to rewrite Jeremy/Anna as some love story just so Bonnie experienced pain. Anna was using Jeremy the same way she was using Ben. Bonnie revived this loser and he cheated on her with the same vampire that kidnapped Bonnie. She revives him again with the expense of her own life just for him to cross relationship boundaries again with Liv Parker. Beremy was a shit relationship because Jeremy has the maturity of a toddler, constantly walking himself into danger cluelessly with Bonnie playing the mother who needs to protect him. Almost every single man who showed interest in Bonnie did so to use her (Ben, Luka, Shane). Bonnie didn't even like Jamie which is why she ditched him immediately.

Her relationship with Enzo brought a regression of Bonnie as a person. She was reckless for the sake of love. He was carelessly poisoning her to death which mirrored their entire dynamic. Bonnie wasn't even Enzo's first choice nor was she his second or even his third. He was supposed to be the "love of her life" and yet everything about them revolved around Damon. The devil wasted Bonnie's love on the most irrelevant characters to give them substance. Even in her relationship, she's written as a tool. Firstly, she's used for keeping Jeremy safe. Secondly, she is used for making Enzo matter and persuading people to care about him as a character (no matter how many storylines they threw him into, no one cared). Her relationships are all about Bonnie serving a purpose for the betterment of the men and Bonnie gets absolutely nothing out of it.

The devil = Julie Plec for clarification

[xeyesofstardust]

I just don’t ship Bonnie with Enzo. I’m not against them being together and probably would have shipped them if Julie Plague had bothered to give us a slow burn, instead of just throwing them together in a time jump.

I like Bonnie and believe she deserves to have her own romance plotline.

Caroline had many romance lines that went on too long. I mean, they were practically throwing her with a different guy at one point.

Instead of doing that they could’ve given us some decent scenes with Bonnie and her budding relationship with Enzo. But they didn’t.

[rosedforbes]

TVD OPINIONS!

PLEASE DON'T CREATE DRAMA UNDER THE COMMENTS OR UNDER THE REPOST. if you don't agree, just block me. ( these photos are from my editing acc on tiktok bc I'm too lazy to rewrite all of the things). ALSO! there are some things that I already said in my recent post but well yk it's won't hurt anyone if I add them again. last but not least, some of these are inspired by @margueritetheduchess05 's post I re-blogged yesterday. sorry for bad English but it's not my native language <3

if you agree please lemme know! and if you don't, well idc just scroll and ignore or just block. have a good day :)

[bonkai4ever94]

All i can say is i remember when bonnie couldn't be with a vampire like kol Klaus was nonexistent and damon she apparently had to much integrity to date but enzo a vampire she could 🙄 after he made it clear he wasn't interested in her first

I do try to think some positive things about bonenzo and then it inexplicably ends.

[andreal831]

Enzo is the Morally Gray Character Everyone Pretends Damon is

Let's discuss.

Backstory

The writers didn't even try to hide it as they paralleled much of Enzo's background with Damon. If anything, his story is more tragic than the "poor little rich boy" story we get from Damon. I'm not discrediting the abuse Damon suffered, more pointing out the privilege Damon lived with, especially given his role in the Confederacy. No child should have to suffer abuse. But this privilege is often ignored when discussing Damon.

Enzo has a tragic childhood, being orphaned at just four years old and forced into a workhouse. Unlike Damon, Enzo was turned without any prior knowledge of the supernatural world. And he was turned by Damon's mother, tying them together. He was then abandoned as the only vampire he knew was locked in a prison world, leaving him to figure everything out himself. Damon was also alone, but this was done by choice. Like Damon, he also fought in a war, but unlike Damon, he fought on the right-side of WWII. We don't know much about this time in Enzo's life, but I do love that they almost give this story to Damon as well. However, Damon was only joining to be with Stefan and ended up not enlisting at all when Lexi talks him out of going with Stefan.

Enzo was captured by Whitmore and experimented on for ten years. He found love but compelled her to forget him to keep her safe, but was later killed by Damon. Similar to how Damon compelled Elena to forget him, but unlike Enzo when Elena chose to compel the memories away, he can't just let her be happy without him.

When Damon was also captured by Whitmore, Enzo befriended him, showing he still was caring person despite everything that had happened. Despite being held captive for twice as long as Damon, Enzo gave Damon his rations of blood for a year, starving himself so they could escape. But when the time came to escape, Damon left Enzo behind for dead. Because of Damon's actions, Enzo is then held captive for over 50 years.

Throughout the Show

When we meet Enzo his anger is initially directed at Damon, but upon learning that Damon kept his promise on killing the Whitmores, he forgives him for leaving him for dead and shifts his anger to the Whitmores. Enzo killing Aaron made sense since this was his entrance and his anger was still fresh, whereas Damon killing Aaron just showed that he hadn't actually had any character development that the show claimed he had. Damon also uses his position with the MF gang to manipulate Bonnie into helping by threatening Jeremy.

Enzo only turns on Stefan when he believes that Stefan was the one who killed Maggie. Finding out that it was his only friend that killed the woman he loved, instead of trying to kill Damon, he turns off his humanity because he feels so betrayed and heartbroken. Without his humanity, he targets Elena to get revenge on Damon. Stefan kills Enzo so then Enzo seeks revenge against Stefan. It's all logical.

The worst thing Enzo did was Sarah. This is my least favorite Enzo storyline, but not just because the death felt so pointless. But because it all felt out of character and random. Why was Enzo holding onto such a strong grudge for Stefan? Yes, Stefan killed him, but only because he was trying to kill Elena. Enzo's anger would have made more sense directed at Damon, but the writers couldn't let anyone be angry at Damon for more than an episode. But then Enzo doesn't even kill her. Sarah convinces Enzo to let her go

When Enzo kills, it is strategical. He doesn't do it out of joy, but rather because he feels he needs to and he has so much anger inside of him. Right or wrong, this is different than Damon's stance of killing for fun. When Caroline pushes back to Enzo, he says sometimes they have to kill for survival and they can't afford to hesitate. When Damon is called out on his killing, he says it is just part of being a vampire. He revels in it.

Even when Enzo is reunited with his long lost family, the Heretics, he doesn't enjoy taking their side. He is torn because he has never known a family and doesn't know what one feels like. He doesn't like harming the people he has known for a short while. He again chooses his blood family at the Armory initially, still hoping to find that family. But he's not really betraying anyone by doing this. The MF gang was never his family. Damon was his friend who betrayed him. He didn't owe them loyalty. But when Enzo finally finds family in the MF gang, in Bonnie, nothing will make him betray that. Unlike Damon, Enzo's loyalty isn't transactional.

Growth

The biggest difference between Damon and Enzo is that Enzo has the character development the show desperately tried to pretend Damon had.

Enzo values his friendships. When Damon dies, he is one of the main characters seeking to bring him back. Even attacking Stefan for giving up. Enzo comforts Caroline throughout the summer as she struggles. He counsels Bonnie to let him go because he'd rather her live and be safe than bring him back to life. He even talks her into forgiving Stefan so she doesn't live the rest of her life in pain.

Damon does very little to bring people back, usually just resorting to begging/forcing Bonnie. Even when Elena's in a coma, he doesn't spend the years seeking a loophole, rather he decides to desiccate and abandon his friends and brother. He misses his dead friends but doesn't honor their memories.

The writers actually learned from their mistakes with Damon. Damon entered the show as a villain in Season 1 and that was really hard to come back from. His assault on Caroline, killing Lexi, Vicki, and countless other people for fun, his yo-yoing back and forth between "good" and "bad" depending on how Elena was treating him, it was all too much without a really good redemption arc. Which they didn't bother doing. We don't see Damon ever feel remorse or apologize for anything. Everyone just forgives him.

While Enzo actually works to repair his relationships. He feels remorse for what he's done to the extent that he warns Caroline and Bonnie not to live like him. His very last actions are to make sure Bonnie forgives where he couldn't so that she could move on the way he couldn't.

Enzo was far from a perfect person, but he is by far a better "morally gray" character than Damon.

Race

While the show essentially white washes Michael Malarkey's background, we have to acknowledge the racism that plays a part. And even the larger disenfranchisement of Palestinian actors or even just Pro-Palestinian actors. Michael is proud of his Palestinian heritage. We can't ignore the impact this has had on him in the fandom and even with the cast and crew given their stances.

People are always quick to talk about the racism in the fandom, yet it always seems to fall short when discussing Michael/Enzo. It could just be because of the whitewashing in the show, but I've seen the discussion brought up more with Michael Trevino who is also a whitewashed character thanks to the shows blatant racism.

A lot of the complaints against Enzo is that he was taking roles they wished their favs had and he wasn't even a "main character. But why is Enzo not considered a main character? He has a 59 episode run time (4 seasons). He is classified as a main character online, but the fandom continues to sideline him. He has a longer run time than Klaus by double, yet we wouldn't say that Klaus wasn't a main character on TVD.

I've never actually seen legitimate reasons to hate Enzo. All of the reasons are farfetched or cherry-picking the plot so bad I swear they only watch certain character scenes.

Damon was a bad person who had moments of goodness. Enzo was a good person who had moments of "badness." I don't get why everyone wants to hate on Enzo just to make them feel better about liking Damon. Just like Damon.

But I love Enzo and I have so much respect for Michael Malarkey. They both deserved better from the fandom and the writers.

[blairwaldcrf]

[TVD 5x12 | every denzo scene ?/?]

[ladydeath-vanserra]

HOW CAN I SHIP STEROLINE WHEN HE DOES THIS TO MY GIRLLLLLLLL

Enzo and Caroline 😭🖤

[ghost-bison]

These two bitches who deserved better

[bonkai4ever94]

I don't get the hype around enzo he's

And they put bonnie with this bland dude over all the options she had

If she was going to be with a man with a accent it should have been Klaus kol or Elijah

[queercherrypie]

Today I saw a tweet where a Bonenzo shipper said this:

"it must be horrible being a bamon shipper, there's no kiss, romantic declaration, hot, present, just some old fanfics and a failed dream."

I looked at this and thought: Is it better to like the ship that reinvented Stockholm syndrome? Both ships are toxic in the end. I don't know why a person thinks they are superior if all you have to do to destroy this ship is just pay attention to it.

The pot calling the kettle black…

Enzo is just a guy jealous of Damon and Bonnie's relationship. He envies that, Enzo already said on the show that he envies the things that Damon has. The writers had a good opportunity to look at Bonnie's relationship with Enzo and give me more scenes where they have discussions like:

"You're only keeping me alive and safe because of Lily's plan! This is your way of keeping her alive!" And Enzo being like "No! I'm doing this because I care about you."

Show me Bonnie doubting Enzo's intentions, show me Bonnie actually fighting back. Show me them actually falling in love not just rotten bits that make me question Bonnie's sanity. Show me a relationship that didn't just serve to fill the existential void of those involved.

Show me something real!

Because what Bonnie really wanted was to be with Damon and what Enzo really wanted was to be with Lily and they're just two pathetic hot messes together to me.

[cancerian-woman]

What do you think about Enzo? I find him Boring 😭

In short: I don't like him that much. None of that is MM's fault lol.

Long Answer: To me the writers never knew what to do with Enzo really which is why he has that long phase of disliking Stefan, Lily problems, Caroline/KC.20 and then being placed with Bonnie. He's different characters all wrapped up into one. Sometimes he's Damon other times he's Klaus. When Damon and Klaus are already very similar to their cores.

Ian vouched for Michael M. which is why he stayed longer than season 5. BE is more about what Enzo needs than Bonnie. They were together for years, yet Damon is so centered in their relationship because he screwed them both over. I probably would have supported them if the relationship if it was done because the writers cared for Bonnie romantically but that isn't how it is presented. Bonnie's "epic" romance is told all in one episode and then the rest is half of a season with the remaining episodes of her fawning over a ghost. Never mind the stockholm syndrome that forced them together anyway. Even in fan edits Enzo is given more reasons to like Bonnie than she is of him. They were never granted a "sex scene" but even that one moment has Bonnie doing the work. Kat Graham is 5ft2 you mean to tell me Michael couldn't carry her to a bed or something?

It's just annoying when other women were fawned over: Elena, Caroline, Cami, and Hayley were giving one or multiple interests those relationships were done with intent due to having some compassion towards those women. Those relationships center so much of those women. Bonnie gets a half-assed romance with a non-fleshed out character as a "here damn" ship.

You asked about Enzo, and this turned into anti Enzo/Bonenzo rant. Sorry, but BE is the only time his character had some consistency which was adding onto the many ways the series doesn't value Bonnie. Yes, it's nice that Bonnie got some happiness but in the end it just aided into her suffering. Enzo could be lined up with Bonnie's other romances and I swear outside of him lasting 3 seasons you wouldn't see much a difference: Luka M, Ben and Jeremy. All side characters or unimportant because the series doesn't see Bonnie as such.

Kat amazing acting in Enzo's death, and the fact that a future with Enzo was dangled over Bonnie's head like a toy is part of the reason people mourn them so much to me. The show wrapped and we never hear about Bonnie's life for the rest of the franchise.

[mythorhuman]

why don't you and most Bonnie stans like her relationship with Enzo?

I don't speak for everyone but that ship was never of interest to me for several reasons. Most of these reasons revolve around Enzo himself. When people do like Enzo, their reasonings have absolutely nothing to do with canon. His accent and appearance hold too much weight because his character is severely lacking. It's kinda like we're watching completely different shows which is the fault of the writers. Enzo was created to be a bad boy for Caroline, but plans changed partially due to Candice's pregnancy. With the shift in plans, comes a lot of revisionist history when it comes to Enzo and his character.

I saw someone say he was a caring person and gave Sarah Salvatore as an example. He literally sought out to destroy her life and then did a random 180. He was the one who put Sarah in danger in the first palace just to mess with Stefan. The flip-flopping pretty much embodies Enzo as a character. He was pissed Stefan killed Maggie and that suddenly went away when he discovered it was Damon. Out of nowhere, he decides he didn't really love Maggie in the first place. Way to treat her as the disposable black girlfriend, Enzo. He was beefing with Stefan obsessively for nothing?! Every other character has a motivation (something to fuel their behavior) and he just doesn't have one. Why the hell did he even stay in Mystic Falls? We don't know! Between his inconsistencies, lack of legitimate motivations and pointlessness, he's exhausting as a character to deal with.

The BE relationship is romanticized to the point of making Enzo an angel. It's honestly a bit preposterous that he is the man they claim deserves Bonnie. How is he any different from the rest of them? People act like he didn't kill innocent people (e.g. Tom Avery). Maybe it's because they don't pay his character any attention. They just ignore that he is a murderous vampire who has also been physically aggressive towards Bonnie. He has no moral high ground in comparison to the rest of vampires. While most of my criticism may seem like an attack on their shippers, it's actually a criticism of how Bonenzo is written.

They don't have much history nor do the actors have chemistry. And the little history that they do have (Enzo attacking Bonnie, Bonnie cutting off his limb) goes completely unaddressed. This is because their relationship isn't built from a connection or shared history. It's built off co-dependency. Their weak bond is further exemplified when Damon returns. Their entire relationship revolves around Damon. Damon shouldn't be able to insert himself so easily into their relationship, if their love was so strong. People shouldn't have to make things up to find things redeemable about Enzo as a character or like BE as a ship. I think part of my issue with Enzo is that the devil (Julie Plec) claimed Bonnie would never be with a murderous vampire. Enzo isn't a saint, despite his last name. He's given a pass for his evil deeds so that the devil can justify keeping Bonnie away from leading male characters. Bonnie isn't seen as a romantic competition for the other female characters. Hell, Enzo even says she isn't used to men fighting over her. In this instance, Enzo is being used by the writers to further belittle Bonnie. To put it simply, Enzo sucked.

[lovelyandproblematic]

incorrect quotes from the tvdu : source - fright night (2011)