#anti jeff davis

[nightingale2004]

Sterek au ida

Mieczyslaw 'Stiles' Stilinski, the god of strategy, wisdom, and mischief

And Derek Hale, the god of the moon and wolves

[teenwolf-confessions]

[rowinablx]

Jeff Davis: Teen Wolf is in a world without homophobia or racism

Also Jeff Davis: Fails to make any of the main characters LGBTQIA and kills off or writes off any of their LGBTQIA and people of color and resorts to queer baiting alot including Sterek and Stiles being bi

Like the only exception is Morey

[princeescaluswords]

Villainizing Grief

I was thinking about @theobule-caul's post here about how often fandom defends its celebration of villains (but only if they're good-looking white male villains) at the expense of female characters and characters of color. What's insidious about this is how subtle it can be, so subtle that fandom can tell itself that it's just telling an alternative story and not actively engaging in racist double standards and erasure of female characters and characters of color.

I can think of no better example than the way the Sterek fandom loves to rewrite the end of Season 3B of Teen Wolf. In Insatiable (3x11), the nogitsune, wearing Stiles's original body, has the oni kill Allison Argent. It was a shocking moment for the audience as well as for the characters. Scott ends the episode having led Allison to her death and holding her cooling corpse. It's tragic.

For a traditional television hero, the next episode would have been about Scott coming to terms with the love of his life dying in his arms, but Teen Wolf chose not to do that. The first scene in the next episode is Chris Argent instructing Scott on how to create an effective cover story about Allison's death, implying in the line "it's what we do" that Scott can't grieve right now. He must be the leader that he never wanted to be. Instead, other people -- Stiles, Isaac, Chris himself, and even freaking Ethan (notice a pattern) -- get emotional scenes which express a reaction to Allison's death. Scott won't be able to mourn Allison until the season ending montage, where he gets ten seconds of silent crying in his dining room (as I frequently say at this point - Don't strain yourself, Davis). Instead, Scott spends the final episode focusing entirely on saving Stiles to the point that even after such loss, Scott won't contemplate Stiles's sacrificing himself to save others.

Jeff Davis did know his audience. He knew that he should have only white male characters get to express feelings about Allison's death in The Divine Move (3x24). Scott doesn't. Lydia doesn't. Noshiko doesn't, and it was her oni that killed an innocent girl. In fact, Scott won't mention Allison by name until the Benefactor (4x04) -- four episodes into the next season -- when he's forced to tell the Sheriff that her name is a key word for the dead pool. He won't get to actually verbally admit that she died because he led her to fight the nogitsune until Monstrous (4x10) when he's talking to Liam and even then doesn't have time to actually express more than a fleeting emotion about it. Scott won't perform any sort of mourning until the first episode of Season 5. For a relationship that Jeff obviously considered one of the cornerstones of the series (so much that it was the focus of the reunion movie), it seems strangely thin, doesn't it? But Davis understood how little his audience cares about a character of color's feelings.

But don't worry! Here comes the Sterek Fandom to the rescue! They will give Scott the opportunity to grieve! Yay!

AND THEN THEY WILL CONDEMN HIM FOR IT.

It appears all the time; it's very popular. When you look at stories where Scott is a Bad Friend or Stiles is Pushed Out of the Pack, it is very frequently due to Scott's reaction to Allison's death. There's a new story today where Scott is angry and blames Stiles. Don't worry, Scott will be made to apologize for grieving by the end of the story. In various and numerous stories, Scott has been lectured or scorned by his mother, by Derek, by Lydia, by the Sheriff, or by Peter (!?!?) when it's made perfectly clear that Scott McCall's primary and unending mission is to focus entirely on Stiles's emotional state and accept anything that his "best friend" decides to do, whether it's show up drunk to Allison's funeral, abandoning Beacon Hills, refusing to talk to Scott and instead choosing Jackson to be his new best friend or sleeping with a Hale.

The twisted part of this is that the Sterek fandom takes what happened in canon -- Scott sets his grief aside to take care of Stiles -- changes it to its opposite in their writing, and then uses that grief to make him the bad guy. It might seem strange, but it serves very specific purposes.

Doing this undermines Scott's and Allison's relationship as the predominant relationship of the show. Sterek fandom has been wanting to do this since Season 1. It's necessary for them to argue that Scott didn't reject Derek or Peter because they were brutal and selfish, he rejected them because Scott was obsessed with Allison. The fact that Scott clearly wasn't -- especially in this situation -- reinforces the canon reason that Scott wouldn't follow Derek or Peter, and it is hard to write apologia for a villain character if the lead protagonist had a legitimate grievance against them.

Doing this denies Scott's virtues as the lead protagonist. This is basic bashing. Even though canon Scott again and again showed compassion and concern for people he had every right not to do so (to the point that Stiles keeps scolding him about it), if they can portray Scott as focusing on his own emotions, they can argue that he's essentially selfish. Think about that -- they leapt at a chance to show a boy grieving for the girlfriend that died in his arms in order to convince their audience he's a villain.

Doing this makes it easier to conjure a relationship for Stiles and a white male character which supplants Scott's relationship with Stiles. It isn't enough for them to craft a relationship between Derek and Stiles (or Jackson and Stiles or Peter and Stiles) that didn't exist in canon -- which are completely legitimate ships, by the way -- because they also have to destroy his pre-existing relationships in a feat of bitter envy.

On the surface, it might easy to miss the connection between allowing a character of color to grieve and using it to promote white male characters (and defend white male villains), but it exists. Grief isn't bad in Sterek stories if it's Stiles or Derek grieving. Grief is bad when Scott grieves (someone other than Derek or Stiles and even then he can be scolded for even thinking that his grief is on the same level as Derek or Stiles's). This is exactly what the original post was talking about it when it complained about "sometimes transplanting whole story/personality elements of characters of color / female characters onto their white villain faves to explain why they're 'sympathetic' while also denigrating the CoCs/FCs for the exact same traits." Grief, as Jeff Davis perceived, is only heroic when a white man does it. In a character of color or a female character, it's an obstacle.

[exposewolf13257]

This asshole Sick in the head saying Im carrying the Teenwolf franchise like TF no!! The Movie was absolutely Not Anything but good… Its nothing like the Show, You saying this Franchise making DOB doesn’t exist and saying I carry the movie When You absolutely done nothing but Posts nudes on Onlyfans. Jealousy is what Posey is thinking because He wants to be better but your not posey

[lucica-stuff]

Ok. I finally watched the Teen Wolf movie and I've got a question: What the hell was that?

[nephilimeq]

Hii!!! How are you? Hope you are doing okay? I have read all your teen wolf meta and I loved it. The writers really tried so hard to make people love Scott and did other characters dirty.

Derek is not creepy in the first season, he is just looking out for himself and making sure that Scott doesn't die. What about when Scott kidnaps Liam? Isn't that creepy?

I'm doing great, thanks for asking!

No, Derek is not creepy in the first season. He had just come back to Beacon Hills after spending time with his sister out of state dealing with the emotional fallout of watching most of his family die in a horrific fire. If he had been perfectly well-adjusted, I would have thought that he was a sociopath, to be honest. Instead, he is focused on trying to rebuild a pack.

Derek didn't go about it in the right way, necessarily, but he was trying to do what he knew and what he had been taught. It's always important to remember that he wasn't trained to be the alpha--his sister was. Derek was working with limited knowledge and skills.

Most importantly, Derek gave each of them a choice.

Scott--on the other hand--had full knowledge and skills and still bit Liam and turned him and then kidnapped him.

He was acting out of impulse and not considering anyone else's circumstances, leading him to creating a ragtag group of "friends" that he emotionally gaslit into helping him. By making them feel guilty and beholden to him because he was a "true alpha" (gag), he used them to do his dirty work.

Unlike Derek, who was willing to put his own life on the line to save the members of his pack. And he did put his life on the line for them, several times in a row.

Scott did not.

Seriously, it's like the writers weren't even paying attention to their own writing, I don't what the hell was wrong with them.

[userlaylivia]

i really hate writers/showrunners who COMPLETELY ignore the fans and the people who made their show what it was and the fans who deserve better!! like honor your characters and ships that watched your show, honor the fans because without us you wouldn't of even made it as long as you did!! your shows wouldn't exist without us!!!!

[rogue205]

Considering trying to make a petition for a show based solely around the Hale Family ala Originals from Vampire Diaries.  They deserve it especially after how Jeff Davis ignores his own damn canon in order to make McCall and his pups look the best. Scott’s freaking actions(mostly) turned the place into a hellmouth for god’s sake while the Hales kept it safe for as long as they’ve been around. The show-runners literally destroyed a centuries old, powerful wolf pack for nothing.  

[xxgothchatonxx]

Yes, Teen Wolf had quite the history with their POCs or queer characters.

Either they would be side lined and then killed off, or they would just not be written into the next season and not told about it.

Then, they had the nerve to try to not pay Arden Cho the same as her white costars in the movie, even though the plot was literally about Kitsune and Nogitsune. That's why the fandom calls Hikari "discount Kira".

Jfc, that's disgusting...

Oh God, I remember that whole "not paying Arden the same as her white costars" fuckery!

So, I didn't get up to the season where Kira appeared (...I don't think so? I got to the end of season two) but I watched Friendly Space Ninja's deep dive into Teen Wolf. (Which is both a great video and also.. oh my god, I am so sorry, Teen Wolf fans for how it ended..) Let me get this straight: Kira was a HUGE part of seasons 4 and 5... but then they just dropped her storyline? And Arden didn't know about this until the next season was announced?

I'm starting to get more and more why people don't like Jeff Davis...

[bidisasterevankinard]

Ok, why no one told me that Jeff decided not to stop with one movie, but made at least one more? after such a mixed comments?

[nightingale2004]

Why was I today years old when I realized that Sterek's (derek x stiles) energy matched Jori's (Tori x Jade) energy ship wise?

Stiles and Tori both have antisocial intimidating partners. Derek and Jade have intense chemistry with Stiles and Tori on screen (the actors are no different)

Stiles and Tori are both the sunshine in Derek and Jade's life, and plus they both have been strangled or punched or dragged by each other

I literally rest my case

[teenwolf-confessions]

[rowinablx]

"Hey Tyler, what'd you think about the script for the movie?"

[braedenhales]

Me vs Teen Wolf 5b, 6a&6b

[kvtnisseverdeen]

jeff davis presenting us with the teen wolf: movie (2023)