#anti teen wolf movie

[mhambitr]

the more I put myself through watching the teen wolf movie the more angry it makes me. like the PLOT makes no sense without them because season 3 revolved around this story with Stiles and Kira being integral part of it

[darklinaforever]

Lydia watching Stiles be overprotective with their daughters, Claudia and Allison, as he always does.

[pbandjklmnop]

TL;DR: With the Teen Wolf: The Movie being released and largely disliked...I want to hear some unpopular opinions about the show and movie. What don't you like? What do you feel the movie, show, or fandom just gets wrong or overlooks?

Also, I've made sure to tag this "Anti stiles/anti-Teen Wolf" just to be safe.

- My unpopular opinion: Stiles is NOT the best character and Scott's not the worst. I'm planning to write a video on it with a friend.

- What I think the fandom/movie get wrong and overlook: The mistreatment of non-white characters and lack of respect for different cultural influences in fantasy.

Some other thoughts:

- Stiles IS a good character. But his flaws that are excused simply because he's well acted and written better than his peers.

- Stiles is considered the favorite in PART because of the fans' interpretation of him. Not just due to his actual on screen behavior.

- There is white privilege at play, since Stiles co-lead, Scott, was played by a tan skinned, Latino man. POC are often judged more harshly than their white peers and this 100% impacted how Sciles is perceived. Same with people loving Allison (white) for the things they hate Kira (East Asian) for.

Lmk what y'all think!

[werehale]

My reaction to the Teen Wolf movie as quotes from fics I never posted part 4

“Oh, my God, you were right,” Scott said. “This is Sharknado. Except there’s no humor in it. It’s just a sad parody of life.”

[vicontheinternet]

I dislike Eli hale solely because of the fact that it’s used as another way to put Scott down and uplifting stiles even tho he wasn’t in the movie and scott was closer to derek then stiles was

[teenwolf-confessions]

[heliotrope155]

Gonna be so honest I can fix Teen wolf the Movie:

Set in Europe

Allison has nothing to do with the plot (RIP babe)

We get to see Isaac living his best life in France with JR Bourne

And also see Jackson + Ethan drop by

Stiles gets to flash his completely useless FBI badge around a lot (this works comedically and then one time for real)

Let's bring back the old humour and centre the plot around weirdness with King Arthur's tomb (he's a Werewolf now)

The Berserkers are also werewolves

Derek can come with and pay for everything because everyone else kind of broke

Lydia "hears" the problem and is the inciting incident

Sheriff Stilinksi is used over the phone to explain their activities to a highly suspicious interpol

They make the news for something stupid

[thesauce8]

If anyone hasn’t watched The Last yet, let me save you time and inform you that it was awful.

[mysticalmentalityobject]

Was anyone surprised that Malia didn't miss Lydia at all?

As someone who has always loved Lydia, I have to say - it was about time.

Lydia treated Malia like a pest and trash from the very beginning, without any adequate reason for it.

And that's not the worst part. Malia still loved Stiles, even after he broke up with her...and I don't really understand the reason either, she just didn't want to judge him and that was probably wrong. The most pointless breakup ever.

Well, Lydia continues to treat Malia like trash, plus she wanted the guy Malia loved and Lydia knew it. But she still felt okay treating her like this, plus starting with the guy Malia still loved, but still somehow did not expect any animosity. Ok, in that case there's no room for any favors, get out of her sight..No, not even shit! Lydia goes to Malia, who wants to go to Paris, and forces her to stay because for some reason you need her help (so you know, Malia is super strong, resilient, definitely a useful team player) and she still has the audacity to roll her eyes at Malia wanting to do something for herself after all this time? Eh.

Okay. So maybe Lydia will change her behavior, since she treated her disgustingly and also has a part in her heartbreak (which of course, Malia and Stiles weren't together, she didn't have to be considerate, but in that case she shouldn't have expected anything), so maybe her attitude will change a little. Well, definitely not significantly. Lydia figured out how important Malia is, but her constant eye rolling made it pretty clear that her view hasn't changed much.

And then years later, Lydia throws herself around Malia's neck, how much she missed her, as if they were friends before. And Malia of course realized during that time how toxic her "friendship" with Lydia was and that's why she didn't miss her for a moment. That's one of the few things that makes sense about the Teen Wolf movie, in my opinion.

And if anyone has any comments, I'd just like to point out that Lydia also threw herself at Scott and knew very well that Allison had feelings for him.

Don't get me wrong, Lydia is probably my favorite female character from TW, but I don't want to blindly pretend that she was a saint and that Malia's character was not treated badly. And when you add that Malia tried really hard to be Lydia's friend after she went through some recovery, it's just disgusting.

Say what you want about Malia, that she's annoying, rude or even worse, but she literally the character with the highest possible tolerance when comes to a$sholes around her and being mistreated by people she trusted, after she spent years in her coyote form and had difficulty to bond with people, because of her trauma and isolation for so damn long. Of course, she is not perfect, she definitely was not perfect, but she was mistreated.

For me, while I desperately wanted to believe it when I was a teen, Malia and Lydia weren't friends.

[rowinablx]

"Hey Tyler, what'd you think about the script for the movie?"

[darklinaforever]

Ok. I need to address this.

Are there people who seriously think that Stydia was just fan service, out of nowhere in season 6? Seriously ? What series did you watch exactly? There are countless strong Stydia scenes with ambiguous and or romantic implications, or outright ROMANTIC background music in the series, long before Season 6! In 5X14 alone, Stiles asks Lydia to wake up while holding her hand with the song Where's My Love playing in the background. And yet people didn't see the romantic subtext in there? Really ? What do you need then?

Also, I've seen some haters claiming that there was nothing to be surprised about when Stydia broke up in the movie, because Dylan O'brien always hated Stydia, and said in an interview that they would have broken up at the after a few weeks...

So that's wrong.

Yes, Dylan said that, before going on to the fact that he was joking and that the two were meant to be together and happy. It's beautiful denial in some people anyway. To distort the words of an actor at this point to prove himself right.

Then it was Dylan who improvised the Stydia kiss on the cheek in 6X01. My ass he hates Stydia.

Also, quite a few of the cast members themselves were shipping Stydia together. To claim otherwise is bullshit.

And to anyone complaining that Stydia was too long and therefore no longer made sense...

It was fucking slowburn. A slowburn is supposed to be long to get a final realization! That's the point ! Canonically, in their universe, Stydia took 3 years to be together after being friends in high school. Sorry to tell you, but it's not an eternity or unrealistic. Not everyone gets in couple quickly.

Besides, I don't understand this obsession to say that Stydia is not valid because we've never seen them be a couple in a direct way...

You know, it's like complaining that fairy tales end right on the reunion of lovers finally reunited, or their marriage, being done, we have no insight into how their romantic relationship really works. But no one ever gets upset about it, or says it makes the relationship less valid. Besides, it's not a scheme found only in fairy tales, but including in a lot of classic novels with a central romance, or more recently in some romantic comedies.

And honestly? I don't care to see my ship's life as a couple! What matters is the buildup and the fact that they finally end up together in the end. Seeing them in couple mode is ultimately just a bonus, which I don't care about, because I can easily imagine it myself.

Oh, and if you're backing up the Stydia shit script of the movie as confirmation of your dumb ideas about this couple being forced, ridiculous, meant to break up forever, etc, well that just proves you're hopeless. This movie was absolute shit in every way, a goddamn thing that ruins the whole series, and not just Stydia. Even Allison's comeback is stupid. (and I say that as I ship Scott and Allison)

But in addition, knowing that the film still remains in the idea that Lydia is in love with Stiles and visibly sad to have abandoned him, and that Jeff Davis himself said in an interview that the two will most likely meet again... How is this supposed to be a victory for the anti?!

It mostly feels like a stupid breakup made to create unnecessary drama that would probably get a resolution later. Like the majority of couples getting together in a series that continues and has not actually ended its story.

Another of the reasons why I prefer the story to end once the couple are together rather than stretching out and seeing inevitable breakups / reconciliations made to keep the viewer hooked.

And as much as I'm a fan of Stydia, I absolutely refuse that this film be entitled to a sequel one day. It's shit, from A to Z, that deserves to be ignored and forgotten.

Teen Wolf movie sequel =

Also, those who act like Stydia aren't in a 6X20 couple are... pathetic at best? Everyone forgets this scene where Stydia takes her hand by instinct and where Lydia, remembering her first kiss with Stiles, tells Malia to kiss Scott to help calm him down? No, of course, let's forget this scene to justify our fantasy of: There was never anything ambiguous or romantic about Stydia, including in the last episode, proving that season 6A was a mistake!

And there are anti Stiles, acting like his character is toxic? People act like Stydia is toxic? Really ? It's so stupid it honestly makes me laugh.

I've been on tumblr for 2 years, but I only took a look at the Stydia/Teen wolf tag recently, and the crap I've seen there is really startling.

[werehale]

My reaction to the Teen Wolf movie as quotes from fics I never posted part 5

 “And what did you do with Isaac?”

[fairytalegumiho]

Okay!!!!!!!!

I'm a poc.

I can't stress this enough. I'm gonna lose my mind if I see another post about "you are a racist if you don't like Scott McCall". I don't really hate him, he is just not my top fav character.

The trope I hate the most in ensemble cast is-character not being called out or not facing the consequences because of their decisions or the things they do. This perfectly applies to Scott McCall.

He is perfectly ok with killing Peter if it meant he doesn't become a werewolf.

He is perfectly ok with Gerard being dead if it meant that his mother is safe from the threats by Gerard.

But no one says anything on this. Everyone just keeps saying he is a morally goody goody boy which he isn't.

If it is meant to be character development then people should agree that Scott is not perfect which no one addresses in the show.

He is a teenager. Of course he makes stupid decisions but everyone treats him like he is some kinda god in the show that it's very hard to treat him like a normal teenager.

He is not supposed to abuse Isaac.

He is not supposed to force Derek against his will to bite Gerard.

He is not supposed to let Derek die and immediately kiss his back from dead girlfriend.

He is not supposed to say "maybe they had a reason to do it" and honestly everyone that supports this statement is sick to the core. If anything Derek has every reason to be outright angry and kill every living Argent but he doesn't do that but you know what he does? Safely drops his enemy's daughter at her house. And everyone wonders why Derek is a fan favourite next to Stiles.

He is not supposed to guilt trip Stiles for a pure act of self defence.

I can go on and on for the reasons why Scott isn't my fav character but his race is not one of them. I also very recently got to know that he is a poc but he is not my fav character since long back.

[fiction-justanotherstateofmind]

Would you mind explaining why some people don't like Allison? And no I don't think she would be good mother, considering she's been dead for a decade and never graduated so yeah definitely don't mind ignoring Jeff and his bad writing for scallison.

Idk if you were responding to a particular post, so I'm gonna answer as if it were a random question.

Actually I don't like Allison myself. I liked her back in the first season: she was sweet, innocent and a good match for Scott. The problem for me is how insane she became after her mother died.

She had never been taught to hunt, had never hurt or killed anything or anyone in her entire life. And yet, as soon as she discovered her mother's suicide, she transformed into a Kate Argent 2.0.

And the problem to me is not even the anger towards Derek, it's the repeated attempted murder of people who had nothing to do with it.

Erica and Boyd were innocent. Apart from the fact that Derek was innocent too, even with all the brainwashing done to her by her aunt and grandpa, if you are not the kind of person who enjoys hunting and killing, you never will be. No matter what they tell you.

I'm not joking, I was (and still am) shocked by the scene of Allison on the bike chasing Erica and Boyd and shooting arrows at them. I watched the scene again just right now and she shot seven arrows at Boyd. SEVEN arrows in the body of a 16/17 year old boy just for the fun of it, because it wasn't even about revenge since according to her Victoria had died because of Derek.

Also, Erica yelling "Please, Allison, stop" and Allison not batting an eye... Chris Argent had to stop her. The same Chris Argent who hunted and killed werewolves all his life, who hadn't had his character development yet, the same Chris Argent who helped his wife commit suicide realized that if he didn't stop Allison, with that one last shot she would kill Boyd.

When she was hallucinating a the party, her other self teased her that she's always yelling for help. You see? It's not revenge, it's always been power.

And what's worse is that she never apologized. Even after learning that Derek had bitten Victoria to protect Scott, she continued to play the victim. She has erected herself on a pedestal assuming the right to judge the actions of others, Derek in the first place.

Somehow in her mind loosing a parent entitles her to get away with multiple attempted murders. She despised Derek from start to finish and she never stopped to think about the pain her family had brought him, and this time on purpose.

And we want to talk about Isaac? She stabbed Isaac several times, and then they got together despite her not really being interested, and it shows in her last words before dying: not a thought, a gesture or a glance at poor Isaac.

And I'm deliberately ignoring her complete forgetting -in the movie- that she was once Isaac's girlfriend and not Scott's.

However, some might say that for some reason she convinced herself that Erica and Boyd were equally guilty of their mother's death and that therefore, in her view, it was right to kill them. Fine, then how do you explain the fact that in the movie, as soon as she wakes up, she doesn't just try to kill Derek but chases, hunts and even tries to kill a 15-year-old boy who is practically not even a real werewolf?

I like Kate for how her character was built, I even like Victoria. I don't like them as people but I like them as villains. The problem is that Allison acted just like Kate but neither the other characters nor part of the fandom see her as a villain.

They did the hunting in the forest (thrice btw: 1) season 2 with Derek and Scott; 2) season 2 with Erica and Boyd; 3) movie with Eli and Scott) for telling us what? That she's a badass, that she's powerful? What is it? A twisted way of saying girl power?

If we don't want to call her a villain, at least we need to realize that she's the female version of Peter Hale (only Peter at least had valid reasons. Questionable actions, but valid reasons). She helps when and how she wants, and especially just to help some specific people: she does it for Scott and Lydia, if it weren't for them, she would never have helped Derek.

She is not good. And we have to come to terms with this. She did wrong things and not only never apologized for it but she never even realized she did something wrong in the first place.

Btw I laugh at the idea that she, 17, (girlfriend of a 30+ man) should be a mother to the boy she tried to kill and almost succeeded in killing his father, not forgetting whose family was killed by her own family members... because if I stop to think about it, it would only make me cry.

So... yeah. This is it. This is why some people, myself included, don't like Allison.

The real question, at least to me, is why some people do like her? She is a Kate Argent evolved into a Peter Hale but praised as a Scott McCall.

Let me know your opinion about it.

[teenwolf-confessions]

[lucica-stuff]

Ok. I finally watched the Teen Wolf movie and I've got a question: What the hell was that?