#anti teen wolf movie

[darklinaforever]

Lydia watching Stiles be overprotective with their daughters, Claudia and Allison, as he always does.

[pbandjklmnop]

TL;DR: With the Teen Wolf: The Movie being released and largely disliked...I want to hear some unpopular opinions about the show and movie. What don't you like? What do you feel the movie, show, or fandom just gets wrong or overlooks?

Also, I've made sure to tag this "Anti stiles/anti-Teen Wolf" just to be safe.

- My unpopular opinion: Stiles is NOT the best character and Scott's not the worst. I'm planning to write a video on it with a friend.

- What I think the fandom/movie get wrong and overlook: The mistreatment of non-white characters and lack of respect for different cultural influences in fantasy.

Some other thoughts:

- Stiles IS a good character. But his flaws that are excused simply because he's well acted and written better than his peers.

- Stiles is considered the favorite in PART because of the fans' interpretation of him. Not just due to his actual on screen behavior.

- There is white privilege at play, since Stiles co-lead, Scott, was played by a tan skinned, Latino man. POC are often judged more harshly than their white peers and this 100% impacted how Sciles is perceived. Same with people loving Allison (white) for the things they hate Kira (East Asian) for.

Lmk what y'all think!

[hereforsterekcontent]

@Rat Davis @Tyler Hoebag @Posey @all of them involved in the decision-making of this dumb, pointless, racist-ass movie

From the beginning I had low expectations for this movie (because like...it's teenwolf c'mon), then they pulled this shit on Arden which NONE of them (except Holland in an incredibly tone-deaf comment) adressed but they still managed to go lower than expected even though THE BAR WAS ALREADY IN HELL

And right now I don't even mean the treatment of a beloved character like Derek who they had burn to death (like his family when he was younger mind you) infront of his son which?? (Also don't tell me Hoechlin as the actor AND a producer couldn't have changed his fate)

No I mean the treatment of the two actors who carried the season this mess of a movie tried to resurrect. Arden Cho and Dylan O'Brien. The way they tried to just erase and replace them? Like oh let's just get an other asian girl so we can still do the whole Japanese mythology storyline . I'm sorry but people and cultures aren't just props to use as you please. But hey! Maybe this younger and less experienced actress accepted a rate much lower than her white counterparts so it's understandable they just went with her (side note: not blaming the new actress)!

Also having Dylans character die in a carcrash in a vision (or whatever the fuck that was) when they damn well know how Dylan himself almost died in a car accident a couple years ago, which left him severely injured and traumatised?? Acting like he never existed (as in: Derek apparently told his son that it was Scott who once almost had to cut off his arm due to wolfsbane poisoning) was petty and downright disrespectful. But this? This is just foul.

Everyone involved in the decision-making, but also everyone who never stood up for Arden can suck it (and yes that includes your faves🥺)!

Anyways for me the characters and the fanon have always been a separate thing which I'm going to continue to love and enjoy, cheers! 🍸

[rogue205]

Unfortunate but….

Jeff Davis killed off Derek Hale in the most nonsensical stupid way ever because Sterek was queerbaited for six long seasons. I have no doubt that Stiles would have bit it too had they convinced Dylan to include his fingerprints in the dumpster fire otherwise known as the Teen Wolf Movie.

Secondly, where TF was Peter during this mess?! I mean, I know he’s been kinda messed up since the original fire that killed the Hales but I think it would’ve made WAY more sense for him to get Derek’s son given he’s much more closely related than Scott “Maybe the Hales deserved to die” McCall and Allison “Zombie Girl” Argent(who’d been dead 15 YEARS). But they obviously want us to root for the “darling ready made family”. No. I’d rather watch paint dry. I mean they brought back Tyler Hoechlin and Ian Bohen for THIS? But apparently Tyler knew what was going to happen to Derek…?

Anyway, what happened to Derek reminds me of Supernatural and it’s queerbaiting by way of Dean and Castiel for 10 seasons. Then what happened? Those writers let Castiel say flat out on screen that he love LOVED Dean only to DIE a minute later. Like dead dead. That’s what happens these days now I guess.

Shame on them.

[allhalesterekstilinski]

I refuse to accept that 1) derek dies 2) that is how derek dies

what kind of sick fuck is jeff? I knew the movie would be horrible, but what the actual fuck???

hasn’t this man been through enough? now cora has lost all her siblings. malia lost her cousin and peter his nephew. and they don’t even get custody of eli?

if this wasn’t written out of character, the last people eli would go to is scott and allison

[vicontheinternet]

I’m sorry but Scott mccall would not be still in love with allison yes he would always love her but not still be in love her

[enixamyram]

Saw "Stiles" trending on twitter, got a bit nosey and upon further inspection, the movie looks really rubbish. However, as a lifelong Stalia shipper even after all these years, I do take a small petty amount of satisfaction that Stydia broke up for almost as dumb a reason as Stalia.

[evilwriter37]

Did everyone just… forget that the people making the Teen Wolf movie didn’t want to pay Arden Cho the same amount as the white actresses? Y’all just pretending a woman of color didn’t lose a job here because of that?

[midnightsgetawaycar]

I wasn't planning on watching it, and that was only furthered by the spoilers I've read but my god. The Teen Wolf movie sounds like a fever dream.

[billyboyblue]

What Jeff Davies and the Higher Executives to further extent did to Arden Cho must chew them up. I hope their embarrassing movie embarrasses them. I hope they see how disgusting the replacement of Arden and disregard for asian culture, mythology, religion and history looks even worse in the shadows of so many wonderful Asian cultural mega hits of these past few years. Boo on them.

[darklinaforever]

Ok. I need to address this.

Are there people who seriously think that Stydia was just fan service, out of nowhere in season 6? Seriously ? What series did you watch exactly? There are countless strong Stydia scenes with ambiguous and or romantic implications, or outright ROMANTIC background music in the series, long before Season 6! In 5X14 alone, Stiles asks Lydia to wake up while holding her hand with the song Where's My Love playing in the background. And yet people didn't see the romantic subtext in there? Really ? What do you need then?

Also, I've seen some haters claiming that there was nothing to be surprised about when Stydia broke up in the movie, because Dylan O'brien always hated Stydia, and said in an interview that they would have broken up at the after a few weeks...

So that's wrong.

Yes, Dylan said that, before going on to the fact that he was joking and that the two were meant to be together and happy. It's beautiful denial in some people anyway. To distort the words of an actor at this point to prove himself right.

Then it was Dylan who improvised the Stydia kiss on the cheek in 6X01. My ass he hates Stydia.

Also, quite a few of the cast members themselves were shipping Stydia together. To claim otherwise is bullshit.

And to anyone complaining that Stydia was too long and therefore no longer made sense...

It was fucking slowburn. A slowburn is supposed to be long to get a final realization! That's the point ! Canonically, in their universe, Stydia took 3 years to be together after being friends in high school. Sorry to tell you, but it's not an eternity or unrealistic. Not everyone gets in couple quickly.

Besides, I don't understand this obsession to say that Stydia is not valid because we've never seen them be a couple in a direct way...

You know, it's like complaining that fairy tales end right on the reunion of lovers finally reunited, or their marriage, being done, we have no insight into how their romantic relationship really works. But no one ever gets upset about it, or says it makes the relationship less valid. Besides, it's not a scheme found only in fairy tales, but including in a lot of classic novels with a central romance, or more recently in some romantic comedies.

And honestly? I don't care to see my ship's life as a couple! What matters is the buildup and the fact that they finally end up together in the end. Seeing them in couple mode is ultimately just a bonus, which I don't care about, because I can easily imagine it myself.

Oh, and if you're backing up the Stydia shit script of the movie as confirmation of your dumb ideas about this couple being forced, ridiculous, meant to break up forever, etc, well that just proves you're hopeless. This movie was absolute shit in every way, a goddamn thing that ruins the whole series, and not just Stydia. Even Allison's comeback is stupid. (and I say that as I ship Scott and Allison)

But in addition, knowing that the film still remains in the idea that Lydia is in love with Stiles and visibly sad to have abandoned him, and that Jeff Davis himself said in an interview that the two will most likely meet again... How is this supposed to be a victory for the anti?!

It mostly feels like a stupid breakup made to create unnecessary drama that would probably get a resolution later. Like the majority of couples getting together in a series that continues and has not actually ended its story.

Another of the reasons why I prefer the story to end once the couple are together rather than stretching out and seeing inevitable breakups / reconciliations made to keep the viewer hooked.

And as much as I'm a fan of Stydia, I absolutely refuse that this film be entitled to a sequel one day. It's shit, from A to Z, that deserves to be ignored and forgotten.

Teen Wolf movie sequel =

Also, those who act like Stydia aren't in a 6X20 couple are... pathetic at best? Everyone forgets this scene where Stydia takes her hand by instinct and where Lydia, remembering her first kiss with Stiles, tells Malia to kiss Scott to help calm him down? No, of course, let's forget this scene to justify our fantasy of: There was never anything ambiguous or romantic about Stydia, including in the last episode, proving that season 6A was a mistake!

And there are anti Stiles, acting like his character is toxic? People act like Stydia is toxic? Really ? It's so stupid it honestly makes me laugh.

I've been on tumblr for 2 years, but I only took a look at the Stydia/Teen wolf tag recently, and the crap I've seen there is really startling.

[reblogs-galore3]

Spoilers ahead for the teen wolf movie!!!

Scott is alone and apparently wistful

Lydia and Stiles broke up after it taking six fucking years to get together

Derek having a teenaged son with a mom we never find out about. Said teenaged son named Eli can’t wolf up

Malia and Parrish hooking up and I hate it. I don’t love the fact that Scott and Malia broke up in the first place.

Liam and replacement Kira. I would have like her more maybe if she actually had more scenes. She was just kinda there.

Mason is a cop. Hate that.

Argent and Melissa broke up. So whatever I always wanted her to be with Stillinski anyways so whatever.

Allison comes back to life. I literally cried so hard the episode she died to have it all be for naught. Whatever.

Allison doesn’t remember anything. Great, fantanstic, whatever.

Everyone fights the oni and gets transported to the nogitsunes world. Fun.

Allison tries to kill Scott. He pleads with her to listen to him. Very reminiscent of season 2 Allison trying to kill Derek.

Harris is one of the villains after he was literally dead in season 3 cause of Jennifer but blames Lydia. He makes Lydia watch as her friends suffer. Um okay. Random but okay.

Jackson empowers her with some speech about saving Allison cause that’s her best friend. She screams and it like kills the oni. That part actually got to me. Because when Allison dies in the show it was Lydia’s scream that broke me.

Because Lydia screamed it also brought back Allison’s memories which was like a whole recap of her and Scott’s relationship.

Lydia and Allison’s hug was lackluster. I felt it should have been a bigger scene.

Derek sacrifices himself to kill the nogitsune and in doing so he becomes a true alpha right before he burns to death. Despicable! The most tortured character on the show gets killed off by being burned to death. That’s how most of his family died so I’m sensitive.

What was up with Peter. Him and argent literally at each others throats the whole time. Like that was some season 3 shit. We need to leave it behind. And he just seemed off

Scott and Allison are back together but while I thought it was cute, it just didn’t work. Scott has literally grown so much from who he was with Allison. It felt like all the stuff with the beast of gevodan (idk how to spell it) was all for naught. And where the series left off was swept under the rug. I actually really liked Scott and Malia, hell I even liked Scott and Kira or even Allison and Issac and the fact that they just acted like that didn’t happen angers me.

And the elephant in the room, without Stiles and Kira it felt wrong. The nogitsune story line was literally so well received because of Void Stiles. Kira also played a pivotal role in that story line. It was wrong.

What also bothers me is where the show left off with the hunters and that was never discussed, like what happened to that beta? what happened to that lady?

Also I wish that they had brought back Isaac and Danny or even Cora. Braedon, Kate so many characters.

Overall I hated that movie so much. It just wasn’t a teen wolf movie. It was fan fiction. Jeff Davis literally took his own story that he wrote and ruined it and didn’t know how to expand. It was all wrong. I don’t accept this movie as canon.

[hereforsterekcontent]

don't remember who posted this originally but I just dug through my gallery for a good 15 minutes to find this since it once again fits so perfectly (this is from when the show was still running I'm pretty sure) 😂

[guinevereslancelot]

jeff davis making a teen wolf movie feels like a desperate reaction to knowing that his work peaked at "my mom does all the grocery shopping"

lmaoo its just a lazy cash grab and a massive insult to both the cast and the fans but that's none of my business <3

[allhalesterekstilinski]

My reaction to the Teen Wolf movie as quotes from fics I never posted part 1

Cora shook her head. “I may not have actually puked, but I puked in my heart, where it counts.”

[all-mirth-no-matter]

One more thing (probably not one more but one more for today). How did Derek not connect that the forests that were being burned down were Rowan trees? And how did he not realize there was now all this mountain ash?

Like even in a far fetched scenario where Harris had managed to clean the area completely free of ash from the fires before the authorities showed up, there would still be trace amounts of it, or the scent of the original wood. Even if it’d been clear enough for Derek to be able to step foot in that area, he couldn’t smell or feel it in his supernatural bones, either of them? Peter can tell that the animal clinic is “half made” with mountain ash and they both knew that one chest Talia’s claws were in was made out of rowan wood.

They made it clear that Derek was their “special expert” who definitely stepped foot on all those locations. But it took Jackson visiting once and making an off-handed comment while playing the reluctant detective sidekick? Come onnnnnn.