Double Indemnity, Spellbound and how a retroactive plot twist kicked the communities ass (which also has some VERY interesting implications for Aventio)
I had a very enlightening conversation on TikTok about the nature of these two romance/thrillers, and while unfortunately, I have no idea how to watch them, the plot synopses Iāve seen and analysis other people have made have caused me to come to this conclusion/interpretation of these references:
On the first viewing of the Double Indemnity questline, the reference to the DI movie is meant to be played straight, with Aventurine and Ratio being just as doomed to fail as they are in the movie, and their relationship as equally as toxic and fake.
On second viewing, itās the complete opposite, and the track (and other movie reference) you receive at the end, Spellbound, proves it.
Letās start with Double Indemnity.
Also disclaimer Iām gonna be over simplifying the plot/themes of these movies because a) both are singular references, DI is only referenced in the name of the quest itself and Spellbound is only referenced in a track you receive once you complete DI, and references this small probably arenāt meant to be anything more than a fun Easter egg for those who notice it b) this is hoyoverse they arenāt clever enough for that anyways c) the nature of references isnāt going to be having everything be the exact same anyways, so Iām just going to go with the overall interpretation of DI + Spellbound/their impact, picking the stuff which aligns with the actual plot of the DI quest, I donāt care what happens in one frame at 30:01.56 minutes in and neither do the writers
Anyways, how does the Double Indemnity reference on the first viewing seem?
On our first play through of the Double Indemnity quest, we are made to believe that Dr. Ratio and Aventurine do not trust each other, but they are begrudgingly working together for the sake of stealing Penacony for the IPC. Then, Aventurine makes it seem as if he wishes to use the singer Robinās- also the sister of Sunday, the head of the Oak Family and the one they are negotiating with- death as a means to pressure Sunday into forking over some of the Familyās secrets, which Aventurine will then use against him in future negotiations.
With this setup, the Double Indemnity reference is a solemn warning- Aventurine and Ratio will fail.
You see, in the movie, Phyllis Dietrechson intends to kill her husband in order to earn the money from the Double Indemnity clause (which is a real legal thing btw!), roping in one Walter Neff when he falls for her. However, their relationship isnāt stable and in the end, Walter betrays Phyllis, ratting her out to the investigator Keyes, ultimately meaning they donāt earn the DI clause, also killing Phyllis in the process.
Hopefully you can already see where Iām going with this, but itās time to draw some fun parallels.
Sunday is Keyes, Ratio is Walter, Aventurine is Phyliss and Robin is Phylissās husband.
Although Aventurine a) isnāt married to Robin and b) he didnāt actually kill her, he is the one who witnessed her ādeathā and in the first viewing of the Double Indemnity quest, we are made to believe he intends to profit off of it, although this time the payout isnāt money: itās Penacony.
To do this, he enlists the help of Ratio- albeit not seducing him, but still convincing him to help nonetheless- and together they go to meet Sunday for negotiations.
However, Ratio ābetrayedā Aventurine, ratting him out to Sunday behind his back and informing him of his plan, which mirrors how Walter confesses to Keyes. This results in Aventurine being sentenced to death, much like how Phyllis dies by Walterās hand, Aventurine seems like he will die by Ratioās, calling him a wretch before slinking off.
And there you go, their partnership is as doomed as the one in the movie, failing because their trust + love didnāt hold up till the end, a devious foreshadowing.
At least, thatās how it seems on the first playthrough.
Because Aventurine and Ratioās plan SUCCEEDS.
And on the second viewing, knowing that the betrayal is fake, you realize they succeed because they do the one thing the people in DI (and Iāll get to Spellbound) DONT do- they actually TRUST each other.
Ratio and Aventurineās plot is a success. And itās because they deliberately made it seem like they were doing a Double Indemnity plot. Like they were going to make the same mistakes as the characters in the movie. Sunday falls for the false appearance hook, line and sinker, and thatās his downfall.
They win because they TRUST each other, you can even say because they actually LOVE each other, unlike the characters in the movie, where itās more list than anything else. Walter and Phyllis donāt make it together to the end but Ratio and Aventurine DO, and they get to continue on with their lives because of it.
The reference to Double Indemnity in this quest is genius because it works both before and after you learn the retroactive twist of Penacony. It makes you believe Aventurine + Ratio are doomed to fail, and it makes you realize they were always going to succeed, expertly dawning the false appearances Sunday expects from them, becoming literal actors playing out the roles of two people who will fall short due to their selfishness. Sunday believes heās seen this film before which is why he BUYS IT, and god itās just beautiful looking back on it. He thinks heās Keyes about to uncover a dastardly plot to profit off his sisters death, and in turn he paints Ratio and Aventurine with the identities of those he believes would do such a thing, which they do their best to play into. Ugh itās amazing.
And now, for Spellbound.
You receive this track after completing Double Indemnity, containing the description above.
Now, this is a reference to Spellbound, another one of Hitchcockās films.
The main characters in this one are Dr. Anthony Edwards, a man suffering from amnesia, and Dr. Constance Peterson, a psychoanalyst who he was meant to replace, who discovers a dark secret about Edwardās while they fall for one another; heās an imposter. He believes he killed the real Dr. Edwardās, but she thinks heās just suffering from a guilt complex. Fake Edwardās goes missing, and the real Edwardās assistant arrived and informs them that heās missing. She finds Fake Edward again, living under the pseudonym John Brown, and although he tries to leave, she convinces him to stay, telling him that with the help of her mentor, psychoanalysis can help recover his lost memories.
Through an incredibly complicated psychoanalysis of dream, Constance begins to uncover the truth- learning the person who believes himself to be Dr. Edwardās (and is using the pseudonym John Brown) is actually a man named John Ballantyne. Ballantyne accidentally caused the death of his younger brother in the past, resulting in his deep guilt, as well as recalling the location where the real Edwards died- skiing off a cliff to his death. With his memories, they find the body, but it has a bullet wound, so Ballantyne is taken into custody.
However, her boss, Dr. Murchison lets it slip that he actually used to know (and didnāt like) Dr. Edwards, and through another complicated sequence gets him to confess his guilt and ultimately kill himself, which frees Ballantyne, ending the movie with the two going on a honeymoon.
So, what does this mean in the context of the quest line?
Well, letās say Ballantyne and Constance are representative of Ratio and Aventurine respectively.
āEvery psychoanalyst must first have someone else diagnose them.ā
If we read Aventurine as the psychoanalyst (Constance) and Ratio as the diagnoser/doctor (Ballantyne), it reveals an interesting interpretation.
That being that they knew the truth from the start/ they had already succeeded.
Or in other words, unlike in Double Indemnity, in Spellbound, they actually succeed.
In the film, Constance is the one doing the diagnosing, the one trying to figure out the truth, and you can see that in Aventurine pretending heās trying to find out the truth behind Robinās death. However, in the DI quest, itās the opposite. Ratioās as Ballantyne is the one doing the diagnosing for the psychoanalysist, Constance, or rather, Aventurine.
To diagnose someone, you must be very familiar with them, or at the very least the ailment plaguing them, and Ratio he knows Aventurine through and through at the start, and what plagues him (his own sense of meaninglessness) unlike the protagonists in Spellbound who despite falling for one another quickly, donāt begin being intimately familiar with one another.
In this way, they have already succeeded. Aventurine and Ratio already know one another, and while they might not know the reason behind Robinās death, that was never what they were searching for in the beginning, meaning they effectively can skip through all the drama (aka the ups and downs of Spellbound, finding out the truth behind Robinās/Edwardsā death), and reach their happy ending- a honeymoon; or in DIās case, Aventurine attaining his cornerstone, and fulfilling his end of the plan.
Interestingly, Aventurine slots into the role of Ballantyne and Ratio as Constance equally well, with the phone call Constance makes to save Ballantyne being reminiscent of the note Ratio makes to save Aventurine, as well as Aventurine being the replacement, or in the sense, the one to find the truth about Robin.
Personally, I think Aventurine and Ratio are reminiscent of both the main leads in Spellbound, which is why itās complicated to discern the meaning of the reference. Oh how I wish I knew what the original Chinese description for this was (if you do please tell me š).
Is it just meant to signify them being in love? Is it meant to signify that they will succeed, due to how well they know each other? Is it both, which is what the inclusion of Double Indemnity (the movie) suggests?
Either way, it adds onto the already present idea that the trust between Aventurine and Ratio is what allowed them to succeed in Penacony, and thatās not just something expressed by these movie references.
Think Aventurines Eidolons: Stag Hunt Game and Prisonerās Dilemma, both of which are game theories about trust. Or how Aventurine says that Ratio knows him best, or how Ratio entrusts Aventurine with close secrets of his, like him being the āGeniusā of the council of Mundanites.
āDo you trust me?ā āThat depends on you.ā
These are 2 lines in their 2.0 conversation that really stick out to me. Ratio will always offer his trust so long as Aventurine can prove himself worthy of it, and as we have seen, Aventurine always delivers, proving himself long before Penacony in the Final Victor lightcone, albeit in his weird homoerotic way.
Therefore Ratio will always trust him.
And because of that, they win.
Now whether you take the deep trust between them to be romantic or platonic, or infer the literal honeymoon at the end of Spellbound to mean something for Aventio, either way the feeling absolutely there, and itās crucial for an understanding of their relationship.
Also damn, the retroactive plot twist fucking slaps.
the deweys photos are from this video: https://youtu.be/5xTwJho44ao?si=bPw8MZZ327lCogVZ arenāt they just everything
kissing you and the minnesota wild official media team (with consent) full on the mouth, THANK YOU THIS VIDEO IS EVERYTHING š„°š„° i have seen pieces of it before i think (connor petting a shark š„¹) but the entire video start to finish is such a delight, 10/10 would recommend
Neon White is great. I fuck up a stage and fall straight to the bottom, get an achievement called āIdiot Island- Reach Idiot Islandā for landing in the middle of nowhere instead of in the void, and laugh out loud while also internalizing this specific image for all of my remaining attempts
it's funny to me that bsd is usually publicly considered a series mostly enjoyed by young girls (probably bc of the whole pretty boys thing it has going on) but today in my beta the only other people in the room who already watched bsd were 3 adult men
SCULPTURES OF ANYTHING GOES AS OPENER FOR THEIR THIRD GLASTO HEADLINER
1. Sculptures
2. Brianstorm
3. Snap
4. Chair
5. Crying lightning
6. Teddy picker (when I get bent over?!! Alex!!!) https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ct4DUGpgtMn/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (itās rather āyaā but we can pretend)
7. Cornerstone (I knew sheād understand instead of thought/she didnāt say that whooo, I just added that for you youāre welcome)
Interlude something about water by Alex on the piano (get this man his water heās thirsty)
8. Whyād you only call me when youāre high (having mad instead of bad ideas/ plus epic pose)
Shout out by Alex for Space pictures
9. Arabella
10. Four out of five (loving butt slap for Cookie by Alex/ why donāt you come and stay with ME/ effective very effective what a night what a night, yeah man)
Smiling Alex
Angelic Alex
11. Pretty visitors (nowās me chance x3= rushing off to bowl and itās a strike= happy little Alex jumping back on stage and then his mic was shut off for a sec there š¤£)
12. Fluorescent Adolescent (some kisses and a thank you from Alex)
Oh god he looks so baby in that picture
13. Perfect sense (another thank you š„¹)
Pouty mouth (he does look tired)
14. Do I wanna know (afterwards āastonishingā/ how are you feeling everybody *cheers* well Iām delighted about that)
15. Mardy Bum (thank you/ alright letās leave the past behind)
16. Thereād better be a mirrorball (conductor Alex at the beginning/ hey HEY at the end)
17. 505 (without Miles šššššššššhis first note sounded so unsure/ the in ears only now getting removed gotta be a new record/ thank you for having us everybody itās the Arctic monkeys/ so predictable I know what youāre thinking whoo)
18. Body Paint
Encore
19. I wanna be yours (Matt and backup sang and played I wanna be yours (second verse)while Alex sang STAR TREATMENT (first verse)/ thank you thank you very much) (for a second we had āMilesā there)(the Glastonbury special surprise; also genius move to reclaim IWBY from TikTok by hijacking it with TBHC)
A video of that beautiful medley
āWho are you gonna call the Martini police the who?ā
20. I bet you look good on the dance floor (Matt having mic problems and some vocal ones aswell(sounded like a scratchy throat))
āWe are gonna leave you now we canāt stay with you anymore but fank you for having us something tells meā¦something tells me that youāre gonna be okay good nightā
21. R U MINE?
I mean I know itās basically literally their normal concert playlist apart from that I wanna be yours/ star treatment medley (which was out of this world š;)) but I still loved it apart from that heartbreak with 505 cause honestly donāt care what they play Iām still loving it and having a blast, great tunes great vocals an amazing night spent in front of the laptop screaming along (what if they had planned a different set list (in 2013 Alex said āthatās what weāre gonna do tonight everyone. we are gonna play some new shit. Weāre gonna play some old shit. We are gonna play some things that are just Glastonbury specials, do you know what Iām sayingā) but due to Alex falling sick they didnāt have time to practice so they settled for their usual setlist?) (genuinely feel sorry for Elton John and his humongous set cause i doubt that anybody can scream along on Sunday still)
And I love how all the real fans can easily agree that it was a fantastic gig while the TikTok fans and dark fruit lovers are whining in their mumās basement how they didnāt just play do I wanna know and snap out of it in 10 different versions and how dare Alex that his voice and taste in music evolved and that they didnāt try and emulate the phenomenal, seminal career changing Glasto 2013 š¤£š¤£
WARNING !! do not look at the comments š¤¢ you donāt wanna see that shitshow that some āfansā pull but I guess some people just canāt be satisfied cause their own lives are so shit that they have to lash out at whoever is available
Wanting more Priyaxel content but also knowing if I want it that badly I will have to make it myself bc it feels like no one actively ships it/makes content for it anymore š
hellooo ik its me again spamming inbox again š ykw ykw
i miss u like i legit miss u sm that like i feel like my day is incomplete without talking to u it feels like a hollow yk that emptiness u get after finishing a kdrama thats what im feeling as i write this (becoming too much in love behaviour but its fine cuz i love uu nd being a liz simp is better than living alone without love in ur lifee) that without talking to feels like my day is incomplete but ik u are taking time off to collect ur thoughts achieve mental peace (hoping u get it during ur time off ) nd become calm nd ik how badly negative comments affect a person cuz they never get forgotten they just get buried nd come up whenver u get into a bad headspace but its fine we all get into bad headspaces go thru hard times nd i believe in u can get thru it u can nd take as much time as u need i will waiting for u with open arms to embrace u nd let u rest
nd ykw in a span of 4days sm things happened first i finished all the movies of to all the boys i have loved before but i didnt watvh xo kitty cuz they should made it as a netflix original movie instead of making it as a kdrama + eng series (i rly dont like eng series never watched any šš cuz i dont feel the connect the way i feel with kdramas ) nd after finishing i was like šš how do i get such a sweet guy (its an dream which no guy would be able to fulfill ) anw moving on
i tried to talk or more likely comfort a guy he is going thru hard time i can see it on jis fsce no matter how much he tries to mask it it can be seen in his expression nd eyes š( i dont like but as a genuine frnd im concerned abt him as i wasnt talking to him for a week ( i get too tired ti socialize in thr evening šthat i dont text anyone ) so i wrote this a huge block of texting with some advice with some caring words okay nd telling everything will be fine nd all i sent it after 2minutes i was like this is so cringe ššššš nd i was like i sound like a girl who has a crush on him ( i dont šhes the type of person who has a huge ego nd i dont like egoistic ppl but to me he doesnt shows ego idk why š„“š„“nd he is kinda dumb )
nd after i deleted i was like think ren thinkkk sm thoughts were going on in my mind like i HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE COMFROTED A GUY let alone have a guy frnd even tho i had one he confessed to me nd the friendship turned into dust š nd from the start i always had female frinds even tho i have some guy frnds but we arent close to be considered frnds like classmate things ykk nd with the guy i wanted to comfort he considers me his frnd but i dont š i have a very peculiar criteria of considering ppl as frnds š but it is what it is so at last i texted him be well nd take care nd i also said it is overhelming to u atm but it will become better trust me he said see u soon i read nd didnt reply cuz idk.what to say šš nd ykw i suck at comforting guys cuz with girls its like u can say ily to them nd write a long ass message for them nd yk its a connect š like i want a guy who genuinely is only intrested im friendship not in f2l nd i cant even say a guy i love u randomly if i trying to comfort them they might take it literally nd another trouble šš well i have never said that i dont plan to š anw take careeee have a good day
Happy Valentines Day!! š I hope you spend the day being haunted by someone you love š» (or if you're like me, just eating a lot of heart-shaped candy)
She is a woman..... this is sanji's influence... in whiskey peak his slashes were non gendered
Ace just letting himself get pushed into the river like aight my bad I will take my punishment.... he really is so well mannered (it sounds like I'm talking about a dog)
Conis showing that nami influence.... gfs....
Nami and luffy twins moment look how relieved she is... this whole fight is so theirs...
Also how funny it is that the milk girl gave ace a shirt.... also new pants??? She must think he lost the shirt in the river.... no girl he is just a slut...
Nami: okay ā¤ļø yay ā¤ļø
Noland just thinking about where karugara is and if he is alright in his EXECUTION!! SICK AND TWISTED
OMG BOUNDMAN INSPO????
NO ACEEE NOOOOOOOO
THE END OF ACES STORY IS THAT THE COFFE IS NO LONGER BITTER BC THEY SERVE IT WITH MILK AND WHY AM I EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT