#amphibia hate box

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Amphibia Contradicts Itself

To be clear, I love the girls so much. I just don't understand why the show doesn't.

The ending actively harms every other theme in the show, it feels as if it implies their friendship is actively harmful to their development as people. And it implies found family is fake, temporary, and to be abandoned as part of growing up.

It completely defeats the purpose of everything it set up with a little sentence. "Ten years later". The girls have never spoken. They never saw their frog families again. And Matt Braly thinks this is "sweet".

When talking about the unbreakable bonds of friendship, My Little Pony at least shows how beneficial being friends can be. It literally can change the world. They're nice to each other, they're kind, and they love each other. They actively make one another's lives easier.

Through Amphibia the girls are shown to have various influences on one another. They needed some time apart, before they came back together to improve. Okay, that's good. That's nice.

Then they separate and never speak for ten years. What was the point of the show then? "Your friends will still be your friends ten years later". Okay?? So?? WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE?! Is this really the conclusion? After everything they've been through, they're supposed to separate?! That's it?! How is that good?! How does this mean anything?!

They spent all this time building up relationships that improve mental health... that's all they do? Sure that's good, but at what cost? They lost EVERYTHING. They lost their frog families, they lost each other. But it's okay. They're slightly less mean.

They lost their found families and never felt upset. For a story that talks about the concept, it feels like it implies found family is fake, temporary, and to be abandoned as a part of growing up. That's agreeing with the villains! "Don't you think it's time to leave those childhood friends behind?"

The show feels as if it prioritizes biological family over found family. A cruel and heartless monster forced them to choose which family members they loved the most. Who does that?! And why was it treated as a POSITIVE?! And the creature only did it because their awful and cruel plan to get an intern failed.

The show feels like it agrees with the villains. Amphibia was emphasized to be a real world not a fantasy in True Colors, but then the show turns around and goes "time to grow up now!" So that means that the Amphibians are childhood things. To be abandoned.

One of the biggest contradictions though is the Calamity Trio are never shown to improve one another's lives when they are all together. Even when they seemingly improve, like Sasha defends them from bullies, that is all undermined by the show's ultimate conclusion: the girls must never be together again.

When Sasha teamed up with Anne and Marcy in season 1, it was a manipulative relationship.

Season 2 it was a lie. Sasha only was friends to control them. When they finally genuinely joined up, they failed so miserably Marcy was nearly killed.

Season 3? They are only ever successful when they are apart. Sasha wins with the help of Grime. Anne wins without any assistance aside from a joke about kpop. Marcy doesn't win. She doesn't get to win.

They finally win BECAUSE Sasha and Marcy retreat, not in spite of it. Anne must do it alone. Notice a pattern? It feels like we never see any benefit to them that's long term. Love and affection? At what cost?

Sasha's lessons? "Don't be a bully" Anne's lessons? "Stand up for yourself" Marcy's lessons? "Never under any circumstances do anything for yourself. You will hurt your friends. Always obey your parents, NEVER, EVER disobey them."

I don't give a crap what Matt Braly tweeted. I should not need social media posts to determine what is canon and what is not! This "typo" or "mistake" actively harms the show to a level it can't recover. The girls NEVER spoke for ten years. THAT'S WHAT THE SHOW IMPLIES.

And the show actively implies that the girls would be better off if they never met. Remember that pattern? We never see their friendships actually improving anything in a way that didn't blow up in their faces. It was their relationship with other people that made the difference.

They might be in a slightly better place mentally, yet they've lost everything else. The show feels like it is implying if they never met, they'd be better off. Nothing between them improved their lives. True Colors and All In show that when they work together, PEOPLE DIE. Anne won only because the other girls LEFT her.

They only ever improved by being apart. So what was the point of being in Amphibia then? If they had never met, nothing in the show would have happened.

The show directly contradicts itself. Matt supposedly didn't want to put Sasha's parents in the show so she wouldn't have someone to blame. If that's true, then that means that this is all Sasha's fault. Same with Marcy. By refusing to expand on the implications of child abuse, or any outside factors at all, the show concludes that the girls would be better off alone. Without anyone to slow them down.

And worse? Matt said in 2023, "It wouldn't be realistic, I didn't want them going on adventures ad nauseum". So why do ALL the frogs get to stay together? Sprig and Ivy GET to do that! Why must the girls be separated permanently, while the frogs get to live together? Why do they get to stay together while the girls are forced apart?

The ending, trying to be sweet, feels as if it directly agrees with the villains.

WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE ENTIRE SERIES? If them being apart was what made them grow, shouldn't the end be them reuniting at the end of the show instead of separating for a decade, never even seeing one another, and then reuniting? How is this positive? Why SHOULD they even reunite? What's the point of anything if it's all going to get taken away? That's what Andrias believed, and it feels like the show agrees with it.

What's the point of these relationships if they're all going to get taken away? What's the point of ANYTHING? That is how the show makes me feel.

For a conclusion about how you never know how things will come back, it does a GREAT job of making sure NOTHING comes back. There are no plot threads.

What was the point of any of this? It doesn't feel like things will come back. It doesn't make me feel warm and snuggly. It makes me feel angry, sad, and bitter. It makes me wonder what the point of anything is.

[4kviatorii]

Sasha Waybright is Korean-American now because I said so

[detentiontrack]

I’m a little drunk right now and I can’t stop thinking about how people hate Marcy for literally no reason. Like she was an autistic 13 year old who’s made her entire world revolve around her two best friends. Suddenly she’s given news that’s absolutely DEVASTATING to her. As an adult a move isn’t as big of a deal but you have to remember 1. She’s 13. She can’t drive to see her friends or fly to see them by herself if her parents are as protective as implied in the Marcy journal. And 2. Moves are a HUGE deal when you’re a kid. Suddenly she’s told she has to live in a strange new place where she knows nowhere and no one. I moved 7 times in my childhood and each time was incredibly disorienting and scary, and I never left the state. Marcy had an age appropriate level of fear and sadness. AND Marcy is a very logical person. She’s so smart. She plays her fantasy games but she doesn’t actually believe they’re real, therefore, there was NO reason for her to think that the calamity box would really work. She even says herself she didn’t think it would work. It was a last ditch effort made by a terrified child being suddenly ripped away from everything she’s ever known. She didn’t have a grand scheme to manipulate her friends and getting them stuck in amphibia forever. She made an impulsive half hearted decision and then was manipulated by a grown ass adult with infinite power in his world while she was at her most emotional and vulnerable.

[aspynnwoofs]

Um. hi. your fanart of Marcy waking up from a nightmare is probably my favorite piece of Amphibia fanart ever. curious what was going through your head when you made it. also what are your headcannons/thoughts about The Core, Marcy, what she experienced while under its control, and its lasting effects on her?

holy shit dude, thanks? i don’t know what i did to deserve all this nice stuff you’re saying, but thanks. also the tags on the reblog were not aggressive or mean or anything, they actually made me super happy to see! i’m really glad you like it.

coming back after writing all the stuff, there’s a lot so i’m putting a ‘keep reading’ thing. seriously there’s so much

what was going through my head… hm. it’s like, i imagine Marcy having lots of nightmares about things that happened to her, or things that could have happened, stuff like that. i’ve read a lot of fanfic so now i really like the idea of her clutching her shirt when remembering being impaled. or even just for comfort, to know that her weakest point is covered in moments of terror. also she’s crying. sobbing. the only times she recovers quickly after bad nightmares is when she’s with the others.

i really like the idea of the Core not only sticking her in a box in her mind, but also showing her things. like to keep her from trying to get out. can’t resist if your mind is shattered and devoid of hope! anyway i mean like using the illusions to show her various things, situations, people. more peaceful ones where she’s with her girls, only to realize they aren’t there. terrifying ones where they make her live through her worst memories, her betrayal (of her and by her), her death, her torture and possession. twisted situations where Anne and Sasha proclaim that they can’t be seen with her, they can’t trust her, even hate her for what she’s done. sometimes the Core sticks her in unending darkness so they don’t have to think of anything, or if they’re focused on something else and need her out of the way (this is where the thing about being unable to sleep or feel safe in complete darkness is from). sometimes they’ll make a fake scene where it seems as though she is being shown what her body is doing, she can see through her eyes, and then she hurts people. kills people. sometimes it will be real, but she doesn’t know that, and she will still hurt people. when whoever in the Core in charge of her is feeling particularly cruel, they’ll do a simulation of her being saved. rescued. freed. forgiven. she’s finally with her girls. but. she isn’t. she’s still here. of course they didn’t save her, why would they? she’s a horrible person, and she did so much unforgivable stuff? why would they ever want to save someone like her? (shit this is long, yeesh. well i’m having fun soo-) sometimes Anne and Sasha kill her as she’s possessed, because she needs out of the way, and her life doesn’t matter anyway. sometimes they free her and then take their fury at her out on her by hurting her.

recovery from that is incredibly hard. when she’s rescued, she doesn’t believe it. firmly denies it, hides from them, tries to keep them from hurting her, curls into a ball and refuses to acknowledge them. because they aren’t real, they aren’t. hasn’t she been through this enough? it takes the others a while to convince her she’s in reality, and that yes, they do really forgive her. she’s actually completely free.

later in life she has trouble discerning reality from her nightmares. she has insane trust issues. she can’t walk, not by herself. she’s terrified of fire, because fire is what impaled her, killed her, and fire is the color of the eyes that haunt her. a small zap of static electricity is enough to send her into a flashback of her possession, of the chair, of fire and lightning and code flowing into her, burning burning burning. once someone tried to calm her by grabbing her wrists, which only sent her further. the cuffs. they chained her down. she can’t move she can’t move! the color orange makes her nervous, if there’s too much of it she half convinced they’ve taken over somehow and tinted her vision the color of her nightmares. (looking at this you’d really think i’d be able to write something. i should write something) sudden complete darkness, such as someone turning off a light without warning, has her half believing whatever just happened wasn’t real, that the Core got bored and stuck her in the darkness. sound and small lights can help her come back to reality. sound because the Core wouldn’t let sound into their void, that would defeat the point! and small lights because if it all comes back quickly it just means the simulation has been turned back on. better to show her something small but concrete. Anne and Sasha have gotten really good at realizing when she needs a reality check, and then knowing her to ground her. (btw she doesn’t move away because i need her to have a support system. she might actually go crazy if she’s separated from her friends) ( whAT THE FUCk-?? this is so long! i need to wrap up! holy shiiiit) Marcy likes to hold their hands to help her remember where she is. physical touch is very grounding. the Core could never get it right so it’s even more so. after some nightmares she flinches from touch, so other things are needed, but once she’s returned from the hell in her mind she needs touch. sometimes weighted blankets help to ground her when she feels as though she might almost float away, sometimes they chain her down and trap her beneath the weight of all her mistakes.

there’s probably more, but if i kept going i’ll just have written a whole ass fic in an ask answer. hope you liked it! if not idk what i can give you (you’ll like it, because it’s great)

i don’t think i’ve ever written things out like things before, i should do that more. it helped to have specific questions, so thanks man i guess? heh.

[agalychnisspranneusroseus]

Ok if i'm gonna write an actual fanfic i need to take the timeline seriously. Especially with the three Plantar siblings' ages.

So in canon Anne is 13, Sprig is 10 and Polly is 5. If I want Anne to arrive to Amphibia at 3, Sprig must be a newborn and Polly wouldn't have been born yet. Which means the Plantar parents must still be alive for some 2 more years, and die when Anne is 5, Sprig is 2 and Polly is a newborn AT LEAST.

But I don't want that. I want Hop Pop to find Anne the exact same day the herons killed his child. Make it poetic. That would make Sprig a newborn and Polly an... egg?? Thinking about eggs could help delay some things but I doubt frogs in Amphibia have gestation periods longer than 1 year, so even if they laid Polly's egg like one day before dying, you still need to keep the Plantar parents around for one year. That, or delay Anne's arrival by one year and have her land in Amphibia at age 4, but I also want to push it back as much as possible, to bring her to Amphibia as young as possible. Is 4 really the youngest I can go? The other option is to mess with the ages a little and make Polly a bit older. Or just not think about it this much. I can just say Anne spawned there at age 3 when Sprig was a newborn and Polly an egg. Let's say Polly hatches one year later at the latest. Now Sprig is 1, Anne is 4 and Polly is a newborn. Nope, no no no, Polly needs to be younger. Okay so if I want her to be a recently laid egg when her parents die, Sprig needs to be around 4 at least. And Anne needs to be at least 7.

I hate this. Ugh. But I don't want Anne to meet the Plantar parents! The whole point is that she never had actual parent figures! That Sprig and Polly's bond with their dead parents is something she can't share! Something that sets her apart! Something that will lead her to seek out her birth parents 20 years later when she finds out Hop Pop lied to her and hid the Calamity Box, coincidently at the same time that her marriage with Marcy and Sasha is falling apart! Or should I just kill my darlings and accept Anne will be adopted by the Plantar parents? I don't wannaaaaa 😭 I want them to remain a mystery! I want them to haunt the narrative without ever being present! Having Anne meet them ruins the poetic aspect!

The other option is reducing Anne and Sprig's age gap maybe?? Sprig is 4 when his parents die and Anne could be 5??? Noooo, the big sister - little brother dynamic is ruined if they're so close in age!

If anyone has suggestions pls send them i'm STUCK

[sheepheadfred]

Ectoberhaunt Day 12: Isekai Past Prompt

Summary: After opening the music box his friends convinced him to steal, on his birthday no less, Danny finds himself stranded in a world with giant bugs and birds and talking amphibians! Will he ever find a way back home?

(past prompt: Ectoberhaunt 2021 Day: music box

what if Danny and his friends were the main kids transported to Amphibia)

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What the hell happened?

One minute he was hanging out with his friends on a not so good day at school before Sam convinced him to skip the rest of the day, doing dumber and dumber dares for his birthday. And the next he's in the middle of this swamp all alone!

The only thing in between those two moments in time was his two best friends daring him to steal this weird, old music box from an antique store and open it when they were right behind him watching.

...

They were right there!

How could he forget?! Now he's lost and concerned!

...And here comes the self hate.

Not like he has much else to do otherwise.

He's lost, tired, and hungry. He's covered in mud, sticks, and leaves. He lost a shoe in a way so embarrassing he's glad no one saw. And he just wants to go home.

Danny feels so close to crying to himself out of frustration and longing.

Jazz even had a special celebration planned and now he's a missing person case!

Doing all he can to survive this new, hostile environment. Or try to at least.

All he has with him is his school bag filled with school stuff he was meaning to turn in that day, his telescope he was planning to use to stargaze that night, a heavy textbook, a small polaroid photo of him and his friends, and the now dulled music box. It lost the colors the three pretty gems had and now the main draw is the beautiful frog engravings, every shape felt if one runs their hand over it.

Life runs in survival mode of what Danny can only assume weeks but he lost track of the days. Could be longer or shorter for all he knows!

Danny started to chart the stars of this now unfamiliar sky, mapping glimmering patterns that the lack of light pollution lets him see. The one good thing about being trapped out here.

Just try to survive under unfamiliar stars and this strange world's red moon.

Until one day, a fateful meeting with a young frog changed the course of both their lives forever.

[liggy-not-potter]

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[balmora-citizen]

OK.

Here is the short version of the Amphibia Sleeper au. I am not a writer and never will be, so this is just the barebones "and then this happens..." version.

It starts with the episode Olivia & Junnan, except when Marcy and her moms reach the staircase no Andrias shows up. So they escape the basement and sneak through the castle. Here the newts realize a "slight" flaw in their escape plan: the castle is still flying. The box might be an option, but it's in the throne room where the king most likely is and the patrols are more numerous in that direction While Olivia is busy convincing Yunnan that "No, your cool three point landing is not going to work from this height. No we are not going to test it!" Marcy grabs one of the frobots the general stealth killed on their way here. She gets up in the robots cables and hot wires it's jetpack. Shortly after all three of them rocket out of the castle window holding on for dear life onto a frobot wreck, while Marcy tries her best to steer the thing by crossing wires. the fligth isn't elegant and the landing hard but they are still over the shallow water and get away with no injuries. Yunnan manages to land kind of gracefully and catches Olivia bridal style, Marcy faceplants of course. They make their escape and here we get to see the destruction that has befallen newtopia and the surrounding area, burning towns and villages, frobots capturing amphibians for the mines etc. they make their way through the wilderness, Yunnan is in her element hunting, Olivia seriously misses her "juice" and Marcy begins to recover more and more (but very pointedly avoiding the whole "I got betrayed by my isekai father and killed" situation). As to where to go next, they agree that it would probably be best to find Sasha and the toads, even if Marcy isn't keen on facing Sasha (who she is convinced must hate her) but agrees that she needs to let her know she is alive and they need allies. They head to the toad territories in hopes of finding signs of remnants of the toad rebel army or Sasha (they don't expect Sasha and Grime to go to Wartwood since they think they would want to find more soldiers and the village most likely has a big target on its back since Andrias has shown himself to be petty and vindictive)

so when captain Grime gets the letter from his sister, it ends with "oh and Grimothy I found one of your hummus thingys. I am supposed to tell your daughter and I quote 'I lived bitch!'"

(would Mar Mar be able to resist a meme even in a serious situation, probably not) so Sasha and Marcy reunite at Wartwood. It's complicated. Marcy feels guilty and is afraid of Sasha wrath and rejection. Sasha is immensely reliefed that Marcy is alive but is also still angry, she tries not to show it because she wants to turn over a new leaf but it's hard. A lot of her anger with Marcy is projection, since she is mostly angry at herself and how she acted in the past. The following weeks are full of avoidance and miscommunication, while they try to get the resistance going. Thanks to the situation they are in and with some council from their amphibian parents they are forced to get their act together and talk things out. It takes some time and there is a lot of things the two resistance leaders can do to avoid facing the music but eventually Sasharcy happens. With Sashas leadership skills and cleverness and Marcys tactical skills, ranger training and insider knowledge (she wasn't able to see through Andrias lies, but she still knows him and kicked his ass at flip wart) the resistance is doing much better than in Canon. Marcy tinkers with some frobot remains for makeshift lasers and some good old hacking. Sasha and her spar occasionally, so Marcy also gets some more meele experience (short sword, dagger, speer?). There are some arguments when it comes to field missions since Sasha doesn't want to risk Marcys safety, but Marcy of course insists on helping and fixing what she sees as her responsibility (she is forced to wear a heavier armor to avoid other stabbing incidents). Marcy also has to endure Grimes "what are your intentions with my daughter" speech much to Sashas embarrassment. Sasharcy also bond over "we both messed up with Anne" there are probably some realisations in THAT regard too. All in all those two working together are a menace and Andrias is not having a good time.

But eventually things start to go south. Missions turn into ambushes, outposts vanish, patrols get attacked, supplies in the base get sabotaged. Andrias must have someone on the inside and from the damage it must be someone high up in the command chain. Sasha and Marcy lose a lot of sleep trying to find the traitor. It is Grime who gets behind the truth first, he investigates on his own to keep his daughter safe and nearly gets himself killed in the process. Only Sasha accidentally walking in at the right moment safes him. The captain lies injured and unconscious on the floor and the only other person in the room is Marcy...

Sasha is of course shocked and confused. Marcy only grins "well well well looks like the killerpilla is out of the bag" and attacks. Sasharcy had spared before, Marcy has gotten quite good but Sasha had the edge and physical strength , so she starts to push her friend back. But things start to change, Marcy seems to get faster and stronger more and more as the figth drags on until Sasha is hard pressed to defend herself. Sasha resorts to a risky feint that should have disarmed her opponent, but Marcy twists around in a way a human body shouldn't, parries and grins widely. Sasha starts to realize and takes a step back asking with trembling voice: "Marcy?"

Her adversary chuckles: "Marcy? what are you talking about Sashy?"

She turns her head on the side

"Marcy is dead. You KNOW that. You saw her die."

The grin gets even wider

"You LET her die...!"

Sasha feels tears in her eyes and anger rising:

"What are you?"

"You may call us... Darcy"

Half a dozen Orange eyes burning like fire open in the face before Sasha. The commander screams in rage and lunges.

Here the story ends. The figth ends inconclusive, maybe Waybrigth loses an eye as is the custom. The resistance has to evacuate from a frobot attack that starts as the same time as the duel and takes serious damage. Sasha escapes and has to face Darcy several times in the future. She doesn't know if Marcy is dead, possesed or if this Darcy thing is a shapeshifter. What she also doesn't know is that it really was Marcy up to the figth when the core activated, the sabotage was done subconscious, like sleepwalking. But Sasha cannot be sure how much, if any of their talks and affection have been real or a cruel and elaborate deception.

[thisbelongsto-nohbodys]

What changed between Marcy's relationship with Yunan and Olivia after she left Amphibia? Last I checked, Yunan and Olivia don't seem that attached to her with their goodbyes to her seemingly born out of obligation as opposed to the positively heartwrenching farewells Grime and the Plantars gave to their fellow humans.

A lot of things change within the 10+ years of time apart, a lot of time to reflect. For Marcy she realized that she should've hung out with Olivia more but she was busy with her Night Guard duties and stuff.

For Olivia, she felt responsible for what had happened to Marcy, that she should've done more to protect Marcy from Andrias and the Core. After talking with Grime and the Plantars about the Trio, Olivia realized that Marcy was a surrogate daughter to her and that she failed her. When Yulivia adopted their first kid, a eft girl who's intellect at a young age gave Olivia the inspiration to name her Marceline, or Marci for short and vowed to be a better mother than she was before. Same for the other two they adopted. Olivia wanted to apologize to Marcy for everything but knew that was impossible, however during her last talk with Andrias before he passed, he told her that since Anne didn't have the box and was able to return than there must be a way and if anyone could figure it out then it'd be Marcy. Olivia however didn't want to believe this in fear that Marcy would return and understandably hate her, so when the Plantars told Yulivia about the portal, Olivia thought it was a prank and got mad. When Marcy showed up at the Yulivia's doorstep and Olivia saw her again, nothing but love and happiness flooded her mind and she clung onto Marcy for a good while, both due to said happiness but also to confirm that this wasn't a dream. Eventually Olivia broke down and spilled all her regrets to Marcy who did the same and they finally had the found family trope that Marcy loves (and it didn't hurt that Marcy finally had siblings like her wives have).

Yunan was more neutral towards Marcy, of course realizing that her anger at Marcy not remembering her name from when they first met after Olivia explained that when Yunan came into the hospital, Marcy was loopy from painkillers. Hearing stories from Olivia, the Plantars and from newts that knew her cause Yunan to have a bit more sympathy and interest in Marcy and while she doesn't feel the same love for her and her wife's human daughter, she still loves her anyways.

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Octavia hate reminds me of Mabel hate. How dare a 12 year kid be scared of losing her brother and best friend. How dare she lets herself be emotional manipulate. And Marcy from Amphibia a children that scared of losing her friends (Also she didn't know that the Box would do that) But grown ass adults sad because boohoo no one wants to date them. Stolas, Snape and they hate Blitz and Lilly for not dating them. (Like Snape joined the Wizard Nazi. But Lily is bad because she didn't want to date him

I don't the criticism with Mabel and mercy have validty because their actions did screw over people while octavia was screwed over.

[minecraft-sex-mod]

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Current (fandom) interests: Naruto, Mob Psycho 100, the x files, JRWI, homestuck, and dsmp, (im cringemaxxing 😞) but there's a buncha other stuff i like (see below)

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Other stuff I like, in no particular order: ATLA, amphibia, toh, gravity falls, genloss, SCU, other jrwi campaigns, httyd, STAR WARS!!!!!!!!! (the animated shows especially. and also Andor, of course), lotr, tma, Homestuck (currently reading. sory) and other stuff im likely forgetting

Non fandom interests include music history, medieval history, the arthurian mythos, folklore, ancient history (especially the indus river valley civilization), linguistics, science but biology especially, undead, bogs, and a bunch of other stuff PLEASE feel free to tag me in posts relating to these things!!!!

I don't support cc!wilbur or the dream team! at all! in fact i'd really rather you piss off if you do!!!

TERFS i hate you! DNI!

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Tagging stuff

I try to tag fairly thoroughly. Potentially triggering things will just be tagged as, for example "#blood" or "#bright lights" and not generally proceeded by "tw"/"cw", but i try to tag flashing lights more thoroughly just to be safe. if you need something tagged i will do it happily just pop a message in the ask box or my dm's :]]]]

personal tags:

#mo's music things - this is for me talking about music, generally just me chatting with my friends about songs that really fit a certain character or pair of characters etc.

#mo's hater tag for being a hater - fairly self explanatory.

#i speak - my original posts

#yapping - like the "i speak" tag but its more inconsequential stuff and me talking for talking's sake

[artsycloudysleepy]

Dyspraxia representation in fiction

As someone who is dyspraxic, I just wanted to list a few characters who are either canonically dyspraxic, or are basically canon but somehow not! We don't get much rep at all, so I love it when I can relate to others like me. I'll add more if I can find anything!

Ramya Knox, 'Like A Charm' and 'Like A Curse' (books, by Elle McNicoll). Canon. The books describe struggles with DCD really well, and how frustrating it can be (but not something that controls your life) in a way I really resonated with. The whole message of the book is beautifully delivered, and what I love so much about it is that Ramya has personality outside of her neurodivergency - not everything is linked back to it. There's good plot outside 'ow, why is that wall there'. It's definitely not a 'throw it in there, why not' situation. The books also contain a strong autistic rep from a supporting character. Ryan Sinclair, 'Doctor Who'. Canon. I haven't really watched his seasons and I've heard it's not the best rep ever, but it's... there. Make your own judgement on it; I've heard the writing's not as good as some other seasons, and that his DCD feels like a 'throw it in' situation (like he has little personality outside of being dyspraxic), but it's still some form of representation. Besides, Doctor Who is amazing most other seasons anyway, even with no dyspraxic characters, so check it out if you haven't! Marcy Wu, 'Amphibia'. Non-canon. She is 100% autistic already (am also autistic), and really is dyspraxic despite not being canonically so. I would LOVE to do an in-depth analysis after I've finished watching for the first time. She's clumsy, moves lots, forgetful, hyperfixates, forgets surroundings, gets injured a LOT, is unbalanced, creative, ingenuitive, and thinks outside the box. In Amphibia, the first thing she did was fall down a flight of stairs and break her leg bc she wasn't watching where she was going. Every time she's on screen, I instantly think 'that's me', in a way I've never felt before. I'm actually really sad that not many ppl seem to notice this in her (although the autism traits are talked about a bunch, which I love). Also SPOILERS: ...........................She has an amazing moment which shows just how outcast she feels from society due to her neurodivergency, and how she finds comfort in fantasy instead. Made me cry. Robin Buckley, 'Stranger Things'. Non-canon. Again, I haven't seen this (yet), but I'm planning on it purely for her. I don't know how much this is shown, but my mum (also dyspraxic) watched it and said it was definitely the case; she apparently is uncoordinated, unbalanced, and avoids sport/running. I can't really make a judgement yet, but from what I've heard, yup. I like her already.

In terms of characters who I have no reason to headcanon as dyspraxic but do anyway because I can (ALL NON-CANON): HorrorTale!Sans (head injury, acquired DCD), most of the pink Precure cast, Frisk from UT, Edric from TOH. They are not canonically dyspraxic and have little to no evidence of it, I just personally headcanon it bc of no rep.

I really wish there was more representation for dyspraxic people. It would make me feel more confident if there was more 'this person is dyspraxic and that's okay' talks inside or outside of media. It's not the type of thing I enjoy being non-canon - there are so many cases of stuff, especially in anime (no hate against anime at all), where it romanticises or laughs at people who can't catch, throw, or run. It's also mainly girls who get the clumsy treatment, at least in what I've seen. I would love it if people talked more about DCD in general.

Representation goes a long way :)

[clumsy-klutzy-faller]

Hi from Marcy, Anne, and Sasha!

Hello! I'm Marcy, the one who started this blog. I showed up in Lumiose City a few months ago after my friends and I found a magic box! I'm also a huge nerd lol feel free to talk to me about anything silly or nerdy!

I've been working with this really nice guy Lysandre, he offered me a place to stay and helped me get my first Pokemon and as thanks I've been doing a little research work for him!

-Marcy

Hey, I'm Anne, and unlike Marcy I showed up in a swamp and got adopted by frogs.

I can talk to them, though, so that's cool I guess.

-Anne

Hey. I'm Sasha. Beat a guy up. Not sure what else you wanna hear.

-Sasha

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// Please see this post for trigger warnings!

// OOC under the cut!

Out of character info: hello! I'm the person who runs @misty-terrain and @dreepy-lex and now i bring you my love of Amphibia <3

Please no NSFW or suggestive asks, I am not a minor but the characters are. Also please take it easy on any anon hate

This blog is gonna be more story focused than the other two and loosely follow the plot of Amphibia so you may want to avoid this blog if you don't want spoilers!

Pelipper Mail/Mystery Gifts: Sure!

Sapient Pokemon: Sure!

Magic Anons: Lightweight, but I will ignore anything that messes with the planned plot too much

There is a blanket unreality warning for this whole blog.

My main blog is @sylsoddsandends!

[yall-hate-kids-tourney]

Loser Round 2: Steven Universe (Steven Universe) vs. Marcy Wu (Amphibia)

Propaganda below the cut

Steven Universe (13):

Fandom just hates him. He's literally just some kid who is super compassionate and loving and tries to see the best in everyone and the fandom is like HE FORGAVE SPACE FASCISTS!!! (He ain't even like them he just had to get them to stop killing people somehow)

Marcy Wu (13):

She is literally a 13 year old in a codependent relationship with her two childhood best friends and the entire fandom makes her out to be worse than the actual bad guy of the show (who canonically kills children, commits genocide, and invented frog racism) because she made a sub-optimal decision in an emotional state. She was terrified of losing her (only) friends and made a rash decision that had u forseen consequences because who would ACTUALLY believe the „magic box“ she found would actually be magic on an otherwise normal Earth. „She didnt make up for what she did“ SHE LITERALLY WAS STABBED TO DEATH BY SOMEONE SHE TRUSTED WITH A GIANT FLAMIG SWORD AND HAD HER BODY USES AS A PUPPET WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

[aspynnwoofs]

gimme your sasharcy takes

oh man that’s lot to ask, plus I have so much to say but can never find the words

I think they have a unique ability to understand each other in many different ways that Anne wouldn't be able to, such as with their trauma, or even before amphibia. we can see neither of them have the best home life, and how much they desperately need their friends. in Sasha’s need to have some control over anything, even her best friends, and Marcy’s desperate attempt to stay with her friends through the Music Box. Anne has good parents who obviously love her and want the best for her. anyway back to sasharcy

Marcy really needs someone to pay attention to her, to care about her interests, and to love her as she is. Sasha needs someone that she can be herself around, and that she doesn’t feel the need to control. 

I've read a lot of fics where Marcy and Sasha just work together, they enjoy doing things together. Marcy is perfectly willing to go with whatever Sasha wants, and Sasha enjoys not having to force, say, Anne, to go along with it. honestly that was pretty toxic, cause Marcy never did anything for herself and Sasha never got pushback from her. man I'm bad at this putting thoughts into words thing

I think after amphibia those two would be the perfect people for each other in that they can help each other and understand. honestly my perception of sasharcy doesn't even have to be romantic, they can be amazing friends to each other as well. 

both of them inevitably have problems with guilt, with feeling terrible about how they treated people, or what they did, or how they did things. they can be there for each other as ‘neither of us are perfect, we can see that, and we know that in each other’s presence we don’t need to be’. it’s like they know they’re messed up, they did messed up things, but the other is okay with that. they can work through it. they’re better now.

where am I even going... uh

I also think Sasha would love the opportunity to give all her love to Marcy, to focus on her and being there for her. I think she’d call her lots of sweet nicknames and it’d make Marcy so happy every time...

I love the thought of them looking at Anne and going ‘she’s too good, I could never be worthy of her after everything I've done’ but looking at each other and knowing that ‘she’s just as broken as I am’

they’d be there for each others’ nightmares, PTSD, other trauma, and not judge at all because they do it for each other. if they live together Sasha would be able to keep Marcy from staying up too late and from not taking care of her health. Marcy would be a comfort to Sasha and be a comforting presence to her, as well as making her laugh and supporting her. they’d both be pretty bad at cooking tho, so they get Thai Go really often since they were always at the Boonchuys and now they love it

shit this got really long and I haven't even said all of it

when Sasha was on her way to save Marcy and was doubting whether they could even be friends again, and if she should forgive her, then she finds out what happened to her. it would take a bit to really accept that she wants to forgive her, and really it’s good that she would think about it first, to really understand. heh then she realizes that if she deserves forgiveness then Marcy definitely does. she sees her own mistakes as much worse than Marcy’s, and thinks she’d be a hypocrite if she wasn't willing to forgive her. Marcy is just grateful the other girls don’t hate her and of course she forgives Sasha, even tho she maybe should think about it more...?

plus, they even match! matching back scars, matching cheek scars, matching betrayals... and if you go with my headcanon then Sasha even has short hair at some point!

I think at some point Sasha somehow became my favorite character after Marcy, (tho I do love Polly and Maddie...) because I think I draw him even more than Marcy at this point! also I love thinking about him and his stupid little silliness. love fics about him too. just as long as they aren't of marcanne or sashanne, because I actually find it hard to read those

I take back the ‘can’t ever find the words’ thing I said, that was obviously false

anyway I'm sure I've got more, but I should end this for now... (if you want more just ask, I love these two)

<3 thank you so insanely much for the ask dude, this was fun to think about and write hehe

[ordinaryschmuck]

"Ooh, look! Another Amphibia critique from Schmuck!"

Yeah, yeah, blame Twitter. This one came to me last night because of a post and it's been stewing in my brain ever since.

I'm learning more and more that nothing causes an Amphibia fan to foam at the mouth more than when you tell them that the first season is mostly filler.

Cause here's the thing: I've seen that first season THREE times. And every time, it felt like a chore to get through as I'm forced to watch characters go on silly adventures as the show dangles this carrot on a stick in front of your face, promising something interesting with a grander story.

"Ooh, look! Something's going to happen with the music box!"

"Ooh, look! Sasha's here and she means business!"

"What will come of this? Tune in next time to find out!"

And when you tune in next time, you're met with Anne and Sprig pretending to be cops or the town having a literal shipping war. And sure, that can be funny, but when you promise a grander story and take too long to get to it, it leaves people WANTING that story feeling a little disappointed.

Or worse: Annoyed.

Even MORE worse: Angry.

And when you bring up that season one is mostly filler, you're given the usual three responses:

"It's to build the world and develop characters!"

"It's starting off fun to suck people in before getting darker like [Insert show here]"

"[Insert show here] had a first season that was mostly filler and people loved THAT. Y'all just hating."

And those are good arguments, but there's also good counters to all of them.

Infinity Train is a series that has a new cast of characters every season, each one having only thirteen episodes to grow and develop while showing off the world around them. The writers make each episode count though, not wasting time as every goofy adventure the characters go on it either reveals something about themselves or about the lore of the train. You can absolutely let characters go and do something silly for ten minutes AND have it feel like the plot and development of the world and characters are moving forward. You just gotta do more than something as inconsequential as Sprig learning to be more patient when watching a hog or Hop Pop learning how to be honest instead of selling literal garbage. The meat of those episodes (I.E. the LESSONS) can be brought up in smarter, better ways that leaves EVERYONE satisfied, especially when they learn these exact lessons later in the series anyway.

As for starting off by being fun defense, it's a fair one until you realize what show everyone's trying to copy.

You see, Adventure Time is a great show. One that nailed the "silly at first but serious later" mindset. It changed the landscape for serialized animation, and shows have been trying to do what IT did ever since. BUT they forget one essential factor that's the reason to Adventure Time's success: It had NO plan. It started off silly and fun only to get more serious over time, but in a similar vein to your favorite comic series. The writers just wanted to have goofy fun times and nothing else, but the longer the series went, it would get more and more serious as it started to evolve into serialized storytelling. There was never a singular arc in Adventure Time or even an endgame in mind for how the show would conclude. There were definitely arcs but they were treated as small webs of something the show COULD build upon if the writers wanted to and less as a part of this grand narrative to a complete story. Even the latest spin off, which has a singular story in mind, is something based on an idea that NEVER went further beyond being something silly upon its conception. The writers just wanted to do something fun and would LATER come up with a good and expansive story through it.

Basically, the reason why Adventure Time nailed the silly THEN serious style is because it improvised the whole thing. When a show like Amphibia tries to go through the same style, it does it WITH a plan in mind and forgets that Adventure Time succeeded because it didn't HAVE one. The writers know exactly where they want the show to go and plan out how to reach that finish line, leaving behind crumbs of the grander narrative every now and again. But in Season One, so much of the focus is about characters going on fun adventures and leaving behind those crumbs not as often as they should. The end result might just be one of the weakest examples of a show being silly THEN serious because of it tries to be one thing while also wanting to be another.

And as for the final defense, about how other shows tries to be silly THEN serious too, let's look ANOTHER series made by Disney: Gravity Falls.

Gravity Falls' first season, let's be honest with ourselves, is a lot like Amphibia's. There's hints of a story there, but much more time is dedicated to Dipper and Mable going on goofy one-off adventures while the second season takes a much more serious direction towards the plot and characters. It still leaves crumbs as well, like what's going on with Gideon and the Journals, but the majority of the season is still stuff like Mabel freeing a merman trapped in a public pool or Dipper using a video game character to intimidate Robby. So while it's the same as Amphibia it terms of tone, there's ONE difference: Episode length. Within the first season, Gravity Falls has twenty episodes where Amphibia has thirty-nine. Amphibia has ten-minute episodes stitched together to meet the twenty-minute runtime that Gravity falls have, and the end result is making a series feel MUCH longer than it actually is. It drags out the silliness longer, making Gravity Falls more digestible because we're watching random nonsense ONCE per week and not TWICE. So when the bigger, more serious story stuff comes, it feels like less time was wasted to get to it.

You can argue all you want about how Amphibia's first season doesn't have filler or, if it does, it's not a detriment. And if that's how you see things, that's fine. But not everyone is going to feel that way.

Look, filler can be fun. It can give you an enjoyable little adventure in between the meat of this grander narrative the writers are building. But filler isn't fun ALL THE TIME, and you need to find a right way to space it out between the story bits if a serialized story is what you want to make. As fun as it can be, it's not the necessity that people claim it is for a good show to exist. Some amazing series exist when they're all killer and no filler. Just because the characters don't randomly go to a casino for an episode, that doesn't mean it's a lesser form of storytelling.

And the same goes for shows WITH filler. If you like Amphibia's first season because of how silly and fun it is, I don't blame you. To me, it was a show that got my attention because there was a hint to a bigger narrative, but it's not what the show tried to do in it's first season. It took its time and the end result was a finale that legitimately brought me to tears, so SURELY it isn't all bad, even if most of those silly adventures weren't my cup of tea. It's DEFINITELY a season of filler, but whether or not that's a detriment to a show is depending on who you ask.