#alternate timeline theory

[thatoneweirdo14]

what if Lu Guang's phone password is a count of the number of times he's tried to save Cheng Xiaoshi.

[real-time-twilight]

So, I'm listening to episode 42 of @threebooksoneplot and @volturialice says that Alice (and really Edward) going to Volterra, meeting Aro and Aro finding out about their powers leads to the events of Breaking Dawn.

This got me thinking: how does the story go of Edward never went to the Volturi?

So let's say the mix up doesn't happen, Alice calls the fam and tells them it's okay, Bella's alive, false alarm. Edward eventually comes back, Eclipse still happens but the Volturi aren't aiding and abetting because they don't know that Alice and Edward are subjects of interest. Perhaps they even take out Victoria's army themselves. But none of the leaders are there personally. This would potentially lead to the Volturi squad finding out about Bella, and Jane Obviously isn't hesitant about meting out punishment. She probably would have attempted to kill Bella, which would lead to a fight and the Cullens likely reduced and/or now fugitives from the law.

If Alice steps forward like she does in New Moon, Jane MIGHT be convinced enough (possibly with Alec's intercession) to report back and either drag the Cullens to Italy or have Aro come there personally.

We get the same end result as New Moon.

If the Cullens somehow manage to hide Bella's involvement and pass Victoria's campaign against them as a simple vendetta over her overly aggressive mate being killed in a territorial dispute (perhaps James didn't take kindly to being asked not to hunt near forks?) And the Volturi squad are satisfied with that, then things proceed into Breaking Dawn per usual.

Edward and Bella get married. They fuck. Bella still gets pregnant. Laurent is still dead, Irina is still bitter and decides to come and apologise. She still sees Renesmee, she still reports it to the Volturi.

Probably Aro goes personally, likely with Caius because he loves to set people on fire, but this is a more legitimate mission of justice because he doesn't know about Alice and Edward, but he sure as hell finds out then.

The ending is still essentially the same.

[destinyesque]

[killouzz]

I just found out that when I invert the colours I use for Killer and Nightmare that their colours basically SWITCH

It’s just giving me more reasons to ship them😂💀

[soupdwelling]

so there is still a potential gap in reality at the hilltop center right. especially if this is theoretically the/an universe the Fears were transferred to from the tma universe, plus it’s possible the gap is constant across all infinite universes. And we know it’s possible to pass between universes through hilltop road because of mag 114 and mag 200 obviously. so… what if when they go to the hilltop center, alice (because i’m still convinced she’s fucked) but also sam or even celia fall through and end up either back in the tma universe or in a completely different universe

also this is related but separate and completely unlikely considering that jon and martin appear to be trapped in the computers but could you imagine if alice fell through the gap in reality and ended up in the somewhere else universe with mag 200 jon and martin,,

[vladdyissues]

I believe that the only reason Vlad and Maddie didn't have children in Masters of All Time is it would raise a heavy moral conundrum that the writers didn't want to tackle in a kids show.

Because if that door had opened up and Danny had seen Vlad and Maddie's kids, he'd have to deal with the terrible fact that by trying to fix his own timeline, he'd be erasing his own half-siblings from existence. Not to mention Vlad and Maddie's relationship, their happiness, the life they'd built together. Still ridiculously in love after 20+ years.

Maddie would undoubtedly love her and Vlad's children just as much as she loves Danny and Jazz in their own timeline, and there's no question how much Vlad would cherish his kids.

And supposing that Vlad couldn't father children for some reason, I think he'd be completely on board with adoption. (So even if Danny wasn't wiping people out of existence, he'd be denying them a loving home and family.) The absence of children is just downright baffling, given the evidence we've seen of Vlad's character. The man was dying for a family, desperate to love and be loved. (See: Maternal Instincts, Secret Weapons, Kindred Spirits.)

But no offspring meant no "loose ends" to deal with, no baggage, no sticky moral conflicts. Because Danny would certainly be conflicted by a situation in which he had to unmake his half-siblings. In Kindred Spirits we saw how he hadn't wanted to harm Danielle, who was essentially his own DNA assembled by Vlad; by this same principle, I don't think he'd want to hurt his half-siblings, even if they were made by worst enemy.

If the writers had shown Vlad and Maddie happily married with kids, if the audience had sympathized with Vlad, then Danny would be the villain for wanting to rip that family apart.

(Also, they had to show Vlad doing a complete 180 and going full Evil Diabolical Villain with a side order of Lying Husband at the end of the episode, just to reinforce the idea that This Guy Is And Always Will Be The Bad Guy And Don't You Forget It.)

[anon55mystery]

SPOILERS IF YOU DIDN'T READ THE BOOK OF BILL OR JOURNAL 3!!!!

🤔If Mabel actually did give Bill the journal what could've happened next?

Could've Dipper's ghost blame Mabel for choosing a guy over him? Did Dipper's ghost disown Mabel as his sister for being too self centered?

Did Dipper's mom (I believe Dipper has a closer relationship with his mom, than his dad) and Shermie hate and blame Stan for his constant teasing which they believe is what led "Dipper" to do the unthinkable? Did that led them disown Stan and forbid him from seeing them again?

Has Mabel began a relationship with Gabe? Or was she too full of guilt for losing her brother?

Did, Bill possessed Gabe, so he can eventually possess Mabel so he can destroy her too?

(Feel free to share your thoughts on what happened in this timeline, and please credit me if you do an, au fanfic or comic based on my post.)

[snakes-of-the-undercity]

Arcane Rant -

Rewatching arcane and I realized something; first scenes of episode 3 are a turning point. Not just in the whole ‘establishing Silco’ business, but because if Vander had truly ended up in Stillwater there’s a good chance Vi would have been the one taken in by Silco.

Vi would have blamed herself for his imprisonment, leaving her vulnerable in a similar way to how powder was, but she would have also become something different; greater.

She would have had to maintain some level of sanity in order to be a parent to Powder and a leader to the rest of the kids. Silco’s attack on Vander actually cost him more than he gained in the end, he could have had Vi and Jinx, maybe even Ekko, but he lost all that because of his vengeance and I think that’s the great thing about his character; his failure, flaw, is that he is too opportunistic, too much of an idealist.

That’s why he’s the perfect foil to another character I lowkey hate; Heimerdinger. Heimerdinger is not opportunistic, and that costs him so much; he’s not idealistic, rather he’s cynical and that leads him to believe that there’s only one option for progress.

Silco and Heimerdinger are each others parallel, instead of Heimerdinger and Singed/Silco and Jayce as I originally thought

Back to my original thing though -

Basically the first scene of episode 3 changes the whole narrative. Silco originally wanted to take Vi rather than Powder and he only took Powder because he had no other option. The original plan was for Vi to become ‘Jinx’, for her to become the next iteration of Vander leadership but with Silco’s ideals; instead we got Jinx the unwitting revolutionary, the embodiment of a weapon.

Silco doomed the undercity through his own quest for revenge and I think that’s super fitting and might be a bit of foreshadowing for the coming season (Vi & the underground theory truther right here)

[wrongroadbuddy]

Let me just say this:

Undertale fandom got popular cause of sans, the fanarts and his battle music had very much help to that as well.

This lead sans' fangirls making sans remember every timeline, idk probably for angst and sad fanarts.

But here's the thing: undertale fandom grows bigger thinking sans know every timeline while in real game, it's flowey who knew. He had different lines if you decide to turn toriel to dust more than once, he specifically talked to the player in an ending.

Yes sans can manipulate time and all, but he still doesn't make any remark to KNOWING every timelines, he only makes remarks about KNOWING ABOUT resets. That means he is aware of the human's resets, that he is in a loop but that doesnt mean he remembers every timeline.

And for many sans still remains knowing every single reset while people ignore and forget about flowery, who LITERALLY has mentioned resets, made remarks to the player, he is the person (flower) that starts and ends the game. (The tutorial and the end battle)

[henrysglock]

anyone want to tell me why she’s got THE specific nose shape (and cheekbones to boot…)

[thewertsearch]

Bec would still intercede.

It's true that in this doomed timeline, the meteor doesn't 'have' to be repelled - but Bec still loves Jade, and has no reason not to save her.

This Jade would have no Cruxtruder, so Bec couldn't destroy the meteor with a sprite laser. Freed from the temporal obligation to shatter it, he could simply use his native powers to shrink it, or teleport it away.

Jade should have survived, but the Derse kids never heard from her.

In fact, they never heard from anyone.

No gloating from Doomed Terezi, no flirting from Doomed Kanaya, and not even a single swear word from Doomed Karkat. Plus, even if Bec was asleep at the wheel, and Jade did get killed by the meteor, there was nothing stopping her from seeking advice while it was slowly descending. She had hours!

The only explanation I can think of is that a doomed Incipisphere is completely isolated from the wider universe. This isolation could even extend to Dream Self connections, preventing Doomed Jade from contacting her friends through her Prospitian body.

Come to think of it... if a doomed session can't access the outer world, then there doesn't actually need to be an outer world. Doomed timelines don't need to contain an entire Doomed Multiverse - all they really need is the subsection of reality that spawned them. One little bubble, ready to pop.

In other words, there might not have been a Doomed Jade - but that's just a theory. Either way, she never contacted the session, so we can only speculate as to her activities before the timeline completely collapsed.

Like I said, I'm sure she survived her meteor, but there's not much she can really do on Earth. I guess she could try and start another session, but I don't think she knows another living soul, and I don't know how a hypothetical single-player session would work. Besides, as I said earlier, it seems like doomed timelines are isolated from other realities. She might not be able to enter a Medium.

Even if she could get Bec to teleport her off the island, she has nowhere to go - removing her meteor didn't stop the apocalypse. It just slowed it down a little.

Her island seems fairly self-sufficient, and with Bec's protection she should have no trouble surviving on the dying Earth. She'd just sit on her island for several months, alone, until her timeline abruptly collapses - if she didn't blink out of existence as soon as John entered his Seventh Gate.

Man, this is just sad. Probably a good thing that the comic didn't dwell on it.

[jayz4dayz]

RWBY Volume 9 Was A Total Missed Opportunity:

Putting this out there right now. Volume 9 is by far my favorite volume of RWBY for many reasons which I will not be addressing in this post, but there are a few things that have been on my mind since it's been released where I feel the storyline went wrong and could have been something so much more meaningful for the character's story arcs and development.

Starting off with our main man or should I say our old man Jaune Arc. His presence throughout Vol. 9 felt out of place not just for his character, but also the way his development was handled didn't feel right in the slightest. Becoming a crazy old crackpot because he foolishly made bad decision after bad decision, completely altering and undoing a lot of his character's timeline, and turning into this sort of secondary antagonist for Team RWBY made no sense to me. The way he said so many out of pocket things throughout the different episodes, including completely crossing a line with Ruby and being insensitive towards her mental and emotional condition instead of showing genuine concern like he normally would have, made me cringe to where I wasn't enjoying what I was watching anymore. Not in a good way!

Here's how I would have done it:

Going back to the very end of volume 8 where we see Jaune running towards the portal and barely missing it by mere inches, followed by seeing him fall into the dark abyss and joining the same fate as Team RWBY and Neo. Instead of that, we see him jumping through the portal at the very last second and making it to Vacuo by the skin of his teeth. The others see him and question why he's alone and where Team RWBY was, only for him to go "Uh..." and then the screen cuts to black and the credits start rolling.

We're gonna skip the three year hiatus and jump right into the beginning of Vol. 9 where only Team RWBY and Neo have fallen into the Ever After. For the first few episodes leading up to the reveal of the Rusted Knight, I don't think much needs to change except for the fact that they won't ever encounter Jaune, but they will still encounter the Rusted Knight who, in this version, is someone that would have had the entire fandom shook to their core when the big reveal of the Rusted Knight's identity happened: Pyrrha.

Now, how would she get to this point, you might ask? Well, remember when she got pierced by Cinder's Arrow and her body seemed to disintegrate? This scene:

This death compared to all the other characters who were killed off was unique in the fact that there was no body left behind and it almost appeared her energy was transported to another place. Hmm, perhaps another realm such as the In Between or the Ever After? Why this happened, in my opinion, was because of the use of someone else's semblance. We know very little about Pyrrha's family and have only seen her mother on screen once, so we don't know much about her backstory or semblance either. However, if her semblance worked anything like Raven's to where she needed to be attached to someone in order for her semblance to work and transfer her loved ones to a safer location to escape a deadly threat, now we have something. What if her mom's semblance transported the body to another realm of her choice right before the moment of death? (I like to call it a "divine intervention" semblance.) If that's the case, then why wouldn't it make sense for a mother's love to send her daughter somewhere familiar and (relatively) safe and still accessible to Remnant? The Ever After was based on a children's tale that everyone knew growing up and Pyrrha being as smart as she is would instantly recognize where she was transported to. Maybe she had knowledge of her mother's semblance and knew this might have happened one day, or maybe not. I find the one scene her mother is in to be very interesting because while she was talking to Jaune, she had a very bitter-sweet attitude about it and almost talked as if she knew more than she let on, but I digress.

In the story's timeline, when Team RWBY arrives in the Ever After, Pyrrha would have been there already for a couple of years. That would have given her enough time to establish herself and explore the different acres because let's be real here, Pyrrha wouldn't have stumbled upon the time travel fruit and messed around with it like Jaune did, nor would she have focused all her energy into the people of the land even though she would protect them with her life if she had to, but at the end of the day, she was just trying to figure out a way home. Once she stumbles across Team RWBY, it would all make sense why the Tree didn't let her return to Remnant yet. By this point, I'm sure she would have encountered Alyx, Lewis, and the Curious cat, probably handled the situation a lot better than Jaune did, and give Team RWBY a cautionary tale about the Curious Cat in a way that wasn't bitter or vengeful. The bee's having their special moment still would have happened, the team's fallout with the Curious Cat still would have gone down, and then we get to the scene with Neo's Jabber Walker clones and Ruby has her mental breakdown and identity crisis. I don't see Pyrrha blaming Ruby for what happened to the Paper Pleasers despite her immense sorrow for the loss of her only friends she had during her time in the Ever After. Her experiences with the Paper Pleasers would have been way different too because there's no way she'd be a gold-hearted tyrant like Jaune was painted out to be. I do see Ruby blaming herself and still running off anyway because she feels like a burden and a failure as a leader. I didn't enjoy the way Jaune was the center of focus when Ruby was very clearly in a dangerous state of mind and I'm positive Pyrrha would have picked up on it right away and address it to Ruby's team after the fact and not go off on her for not doing enough.

Team RWPY would go on the search for Ruby and still find her in Neo's torture dungeon, which would have been just as painful to watch, especially from Pyrrha's point of view. Ruby having to watch Pyrrha die in Vol.3 and now she had to witness Ruby "die" in Vol. 9 is kind of a trippy coincidence that fits so well. The only difference being Pyrrha immediately taking the initiative to find Ruby before the cat does and the final battle being way more epic. Jaune certainly gained a lot of battle experience throughout the series, but Pyrrha was always ahead of him in that respect and without a doubt would have sharpened her skills to perfection while she was on her own in the Ever After. Ruby emerges as a new version of herself, they defeat the Curious Cat, Neo ascends, and all of the girls finally get to go home together, hand in hand.

I can even go as far as to say this would have made Vol. 9 Beyond so much better too. Picture it, Team RWBY and Pyrrha leaving the portal and the first person to see them is Jaune. The potential for Arkos here is so strong it kills me inside! They'd have a raw moment between each other, there'd be lots of crying on Jaune and maybe even Pyrrha's part too, a long hug, and most definitely a romantic kiss that would have tied their relationship arc together in such a perfect way. It would have brought Pyrrha back and that's honestly all I want.

Of course, this is all just for shits and giggles, but I'd love to hear what y'all think or if you have something else to add! ^-^

[syncopatedid]

Guys there really is an official Link Click Wuxia (?) AU clip floating out there on the Bilibili.

[daily-linkclick]

So recently there was a live performance at Bilibili World (anyone correct me if I'm wrong) where Fan Ka and Bai Sha Jaws performed XƎTЯOVerthink, a mashup of Vortex and Overthink!

A very interesting part of this is they created an entirely new music video for Vortex's part with Lu Guang falling instead of Cheng Xiaoshi.

It also seems that whatever they showed in the music video is an alternate timeline?? Since everyone had different clothes?

[transingthoseformers]

yknow in ur alt es you mentioned the optional parts has to be the 2 arcees like how are ya gonna implement that? and also how would rodimus interact with the GHOST bots and the maltobots

Oh right that post!

Idk i thought two arcees that are slightly different but ultimately also the same character would be interesting because like. That's an alternate/future version of base Earthspark Arcee. It's also because Arcee was part of Rodimus's little squad in g1, but also she's already part of the earthspark autobots on earth. Though I wasn't sure so that's why I said the two arcees thing was optional

Now Rodimus that's more concrete, when he's interacting with the autobots plus Megatron he's more like g1 Rodimus in that "well he's definitely a leader but he's a bit young for it and new at it" vibe, and I think Megatron and Prowl are definitely suspicious of him and this entire situation (goddamn! A situation where they agree on something! How rare!) because there's definitely things this Rodimus isn't telling them (who makes the first connection between this Rodimus and the autobot Hot Rod?) (Or is that immediate?)

Now, I'm thinking he's got a more sort of older adult brother type dynamic with the kids, maybe?? Or at least eventually. At first he's pretty much a stranger, an ally sure but someone they don't know.

There are multiple ways this version of Rodimus can interact with decepticons (including Megatron...), and some of them depend on what makes his timeline different than the main earthspark timeline. I'm thinking though in general the interactions between the mecha from Rodimus's timeline and the main earthspark timeline decepticons are rough. (especially with the whole Galvatron thing...)

What little I know about G1 Rodimus is a big reference here, but so are elements from characters like tfa Optimus, rid15 Bumblebee, and Cyberverse Hot Rod. I need to watch g1 s3 still so there is improvement I can make on this idea.

[raspberry-gloaming]

I very much doubt there's much chance of this, but is there anyone out there who is a fan of both Doctor Who (and especially/possibly the Gallifrey audios) and the Nevermoor series? As I have many au thoughts but no-one to share/discuss them with.

(if you are please message me)