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close enough, welcome back Elias Bouchard
#tma podcast#game changer fans don’t crucify me#also could be Cecil Gershwin Palmer#game changer#sam reich#the magnus archives
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I see your “Cecil could survive TMA but Jon couldn’t survive Night Vale” posts and I raise you: Carlos (the dad, the myth, the legend) could survive both easily
#some of you guys haven’t read it devours and it shows#he’s not afraid to kill god#he’d breeze through the entirety of the archives in a week and have them organized alphabetically#mans was stuck in the desert otherworld for years do you think he’d hesitate to touch the weird shit#he’d make it out of the vase alive#he’s SMART he’s HOT and he’s A SCIENTIST#AND he’d have the entirety of the archive staff swooning over him by the end of it#not to mention the rest of his science team is also unhinged#I could ramble on for hours abt this#anyways#tmagp#the magnus archives#the magnus protocol#wtnv#welcome to night vale#jonathan sims#jon sims#cecil palmer#cecil gershwin palmer#carlos the scientist#carlos dave robles
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cringetoba day 8 tumblr sexyman. everybody stand up and pay your respects to the ORIGINAL sexyman‼️🫡
#cringetober#cringetober 2023#welcome to night vale#wtnv#cecil palmer#cecil gershwin palmer#cicada.jpg#tried to put him in the tackiest (positive) outfit i could imagine#also skipping days 9 10 and 11 cause i dont have any ideas for those LOL soz
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I cosplayed my personal hc for cecil's appearance to the wtnv live show tonight :]
it's not exactly what i imagine, but ngl i had a fun time dressed like this, and I enjoyed doing a silly little photoshoot when i got home (my makeup did get kinda messed up because i was laughing too much though rip)
+ my design for him
#i need everyone to know that wig was fully decked out in colorful clips and barrettes#also that i forced my friend to hunt down a cheap ring that could pass as a wedding band#cecil gershwin palmer#wtnv cecil#wtnv#welcome to night vale#wtnv cosplay#another side note#i had to paint the jacket and wig by hand someone help me#and i only had an hour to do all my makeup help#probably gonna regret posting my face lol
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Hey 2010-2013 tumblr residents who have never left, I don’t have the poll function on this blog but as one of you, I would like us to gather ‘round and discuss something. I know the Onceler gets the title for the first documented tumblr sexy man, but given the chokehold Cecil Gershwin Palmer has had on here as a whole these last 11 years & his debut coinciding alongside the Onceler fandom domination, would it be more accurate to call him the standard?
I know I sound like I’m speaking blasphemy but hear me out. Many of the base line traits past winners of the tumblr sexy men generally have are actually closer to Cecil’s canon outfits, hair style, power scaling, sass, & personality as a whole (especially in fan works). And, tbh, past polls staff made went by most used tags at the time rather than long term lasting impact (which is one of the many reasons why Sans has been a power house for several years now despite the very obvious lull in Undertale fandom activity). If Onceler was truly the standard, Sans would have never qualified on the grounds of a lot of people want to fuck him as a skeleton rather than as a human & Reigen doesn’t have nearly as many aus to qualify in comparison to the majority of his past competitors. Furthermore a sexyman is supposed to be evil OR have a unique trait, which the Onceler doesn’t even meet because his power of being big oil is temporary & he guilt’s himself out of evil. And no- playing guitar isn’t unique when you think about all past winners; Sans and Reigen could sing and play the guitar but the Onceler can’t throw hands without needing money to hire people to do it for him. If you make Cecil the standard, there is no contradiction nor issue with the rules.
Anyways everyone chew it over, doubly those of us who could qualify for a veteran’s discount, because the new polling system made me realize staff kinda ignored Cecil & many other men properly for a while now on the grounds of trending popularity within the prior year instead of the actual requirements a character has to meet under the “Onceler” standards. And shout out to all the Onceler fans- sorry if I made you mad with this but we’ve needed to all collectively reconsider what the winners are actually referencing for a while now.
#cecil gershwin palmer#mun post#tumblr sexyman#tumblr sexymen poll#the oncelor#sans#reigen arataka#ok now to turn off notifications because this will most likely cause a war to start#and i kinda need my battery to not drain#i beg of all of you to be civil#on a side note thank the universe the onceler’s basic hair didn’t become the standard#can you imagine humans sans with that hair? nah#also I think a requirement should be “that the character is funny or is rooted in comedic timing because all the winners are#winners because they are naturally funny in canon and tripled down in the memes post their win#the onceler is not rooted in that level of comedy nor are they meme-able in a universally loved way (shout out to the fandom#for affecting his meme-ability. I’m trying my best not to roast y’all but goddamn#you guys were cringe but free and happy as hell)#and tbh I think the Lorax from the 2012 film could qualify under Cecil standards and the comedy - the tree spirit thing could meet at Sans#Bill’s and Reigen’s wit level too#also also we need an official tumblr sexy himbo poll because many characters who have qualified don’t win because of their himbo-ness
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love love love characters who dress weird & out there & unique & ugly
#personal#i’m not talking like sleek black coat dresses so cool i’m talking like the author is describing their outfits and you cannot fathom how it#could possibly not look like shit#I SEE THE VISION OKAY#i’m talking like cecil gershwin palmer i’m talking blue sargent i’m talking my dnd character#whenever i see comments saying they love blue but think her outfits are horrendous NONE OF U WILL EVER UNDERSTAND HER LIKE I DO#like a character with such a distinct sense of self & confidence but also the want to share that with the world in how theypresent themself#is SO delicious#wait i’m gonna talk about blue more. actually her being ‘fanciful yet sensible’ actually her being vain but it’s so far from how you’d#normally see it characterized and yet is actually so true to the quality itself & her as a character
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GRAND FINALS OF TUMBLR'S FASHION DISASTER TOURNAMENT GOLDEN CROC AWARDS 2023
Matchup #7.1: Cecil Gershwin Palmer (Welcome to Night Vale) vs Teruki Hanazawa (Mob Psycho 100)
This is it! From 64 initial contenders, we're down to the final 2. Trexel Geistman from Stellar Firma took the third spot already, but who will be first on the podium? Who deserves a nice pair of golden crocs for just how BAD their fashion sense is?
For one last time, let's review their Fashion Crimes!
On the left side, rises Cecil Gershwin Palmer. Crowned the Tumblr sexyman, iconic enough to make it into so many tournaments, is he also Disastrous enough to win here? His run in this competition so far has been smooth, full of sweeps even against the toughest contenders. He has been often nominated for (all canonically):
his first date outfit being described as "my best tunic and furry pants"
wearing capri pants and a cummerbund to work
wearing yellow sponge clogs, cat ears, and tights to the opera
wearing "a black tuxedo and white bow tie, open-toed polished black shoes, a burgundy velvet cape, earrings made from repurposed car keys, and a top hat with furry tassels hanging from the brim" to his wedding
going to sleep in "a honeycomb hat, a Hawaiian shirt, and leather pants"
On the right, we have Teru. Oh Teru. While his fashion sense has inspired much art from his voters, he struggled in a couple of matchups, but Terunation always pulled through - even in the last 10 minutes in one case. Can he take down Cecil? Can he succeed where Reigen failed? Here are a few of his (illustrated) Fashion Crimes:
wearing a three foot wig which causes him to resemble a cactus (above)
picking out that horrible monkey shirt that you could see in the Mob poll for Mob (it was so bad it defeated god)
certain... official promo art and official fanbook outfits (below)
This poll will last for a WEEK per democratic choice from y'all, so you have tons of time to make and share that propaganda!
#disasterbattles#fashiondisastertournament#grand finals#tournament poll#cecil gershwin palmer#cecil palmer#welcome to night vale#wtnv#hanazawa teruki#teru hanazawa#mob psycho 100#mp100
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hatchetfield au where everything is the same but theres a radio show called welcome to hatchetfield. and the host is cecil gershwin palmer. and he is in love with a scientist called carlos who came to the weird town of hatchetfield to try to understand the horrors happening there.
(also could be called a welcome to nightvale au where nightvale is actually hatchetfield. and desert bluffs is clivesdale)
#starkid#tgwdlm#npmd#lords in black#black friday#nerdy prudes must die#hatchetfield#hatchetverse#hatchetfield universe#welcome to night vale#welcome to nightvale#nightmare time#cecil gershwin palmer#cecil palmer#cecilos#wtnv cecil#wtnv#carlos wtnv
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Vox canonically having fans while Alastor and Lucifer don't kinda make a bit of sense. Neither Alastor nor Lucifer have been seen in years, what with Aladtor disappearing for 7 years and Lucifer being a shut in. On top of that, seeing Alastor in person and recognizing him as such was probably a rarity since his medium is nonvisual in nature. So unless there's some sort of Naruto-esque Bingo Book with a list of all the major overlords out there, there's no reason for anyone to even know what Alastor looks like
anon it's funny you say this because I have earlier posts talking about random sinners who never met alastor misinterpreting how he looks based on vox's shitty drawing alone. characters without canon appearance have appeal too you know? alastor could still have a fanbase from that. also there is something appealing about just a voice you know. cecil gershwin palmer is not a sexyman for no reason.
I mean I do agree it makes the most sense for only vox to have fans but also. don't underestimate the power of a voice. alastor may have been gone for 7 years but the entirety of stayed gone still happened publicly. those sinners heard his voice, they saw the shitty drawing vox did. he could still have a fanbase based on that
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Ocelli’s TMAlev Masterpost
Buckle in, dolls, it’s about to be a long one. Two disclaimers before we hop into this! If you have not read my Multi-Avatar System, the Eye’s Great Chain of Being, and Spiders for the Web Avatars, pause your reading of this and read those first! Those will be referenced heavily and are crucial to your understanding of how the boys function in this particular AU. Additionally, if you are not finished with TMA or through Intermezzo in Malevolent, this will be EXTREMELY SPOILER HEAVY for you. Proceed with caution <3 Arthur Lester
Avatar Alignment: The Eye – Complete/Infinite/Record AKA a “Triple” – THE AMBASSADOR Marked: By literally all of them, have you listened to the podcast?? /j Explanation: Ok, ok. I have gone round and round with people about the whole ‘Eye’ thing in relation to Arthur in the past but lemme just reiterate again here. The thing that cut Melanie off from The Eye in TMA was the complete destruction of her eyes. They were entirely gouged out. Arthur’s eyes are still entirely functional, but he is prevented from seeing due to John’s interference. Therefore, Arthur is still fully capable of falling to The Eye and I believe he does. I’ve seen a lot of Dark!Arthur due to the fact that he’s blind and it’s definitely a really cool take! I just don’t see him necessarily feeding in the way that the Dark reads. Now! Could there be an argument made for Cooperative Eye/Dark!Arthur flavored in the way of trying to find pull answers from things in “the dark”? Hidden discoveries and information that doesn’t want to be pulled from? Absolutely. Additionally, I do also really like Web!Arthur. I feel like that fits him as well with the amount of subtle manipulation that he does; however, I flavor this more as John’s influences on Arthur which bleed into how Arthur’s Eye feeding functions (and vice versa). So, how exactly does Arthur’s Eye things work? First and foremost, I believe that when Arthur falls to The Eye, his ability to compel skyrockets. There are a lot of little moments peppered throughout the podcast but especially in season four where Arthur has these really compulsion flavored moments that have a sort of Web twist to them from John. Secondly, Arthur now has the ability to see through other people’s eyes in the absence of John from his mind (yes, John has his own body in this). Arthur is still blind himself but is able to see through others’ eyes if they are within his sightline, temporarily imposing his blindness on them while he navigates in a third person view. Oh, how the tables turn! Lastly, Arthur is seated at one of the top links of the chain as THE AMBASSADOR settled below THE ARCHIVIST (Jonathan Sims) and above THE BROADCAST (Cecil Gershwin Palmer). Why the title? Well, he’s the Eye’s little representative from another universe! The main one at least and is marked by enough to hold special status. Additionally, Arthur’s placement on the chain means that he is graced with a Pupil, a low level Eye avatar that holds its avatarhood mainly for servitude. Arthur is a special little guy and gets TWO! Who are those two, you might ask? No other than Noel and Oscar. I’ll get into their specifics under their names but their fall to The Eye was entirely Arthur’s fault and was their fall to The Web being entirely John’s fault. I don’t have the specifics of this yet but the two are now bonded to Arthur and John for better or for worse. Arthur is able to tap into the sight of one of each of their eyes at any time, no matter the distance (two Pupils for two different eyes? Eh? EH? I think I’m clever sometimes-). This also means that Arthur can tap into the benefits when either one of them are feeding using The Eye and he can also help them do so as well.
John Doe Avatar Alignment: The Web Marked: The Spiral + The End (KiY), The Dark + The Vast (The Dark World), The Eye (Arthur) Explanation: I think it’s generally agreed upon that John is Web. However, if you see other relations with John, please send them! I love seeing different interpretations! John’s relation to the Web is fairly self-explanatory in the context of Malevolent. He is slowly taking over parts of his host’s body as well as being his guide throughout… well, everything. He quite literally controls Arthur’s sight. However, I think it’s important to add that John seems to fear the loss of control in return. Generally, just think back to season four and his anger (out of fear) of feeling like a passenger while Arthur got help from outside sources. John is incredibly manipulative, and his lies and string pulling are clear in his nudges to get Arthur to the Grey Stone. On the brighter side of things, John Doe is also resistive towards a “fate” so to speak. His separation from the King in Yellow had led him to becoming more human, so much so that The King couldn’t get him to fit back anymore. Generally, Web Avatars don’t have others that are tied to them like Eye Avatars do but John is a bit of special case. Like Arthur, Noel and Oscar are bound to John through their falls to The Web being entirely John’s fault. I need to think out what this bond to John specifically does (like stated above for Arthur) but for now know that John has those two under his umbrella as well. Let’s talk about some marks now! The most obvious of these the The Eye through his ties to Arthur. I do think that Arthur’s Eye alignment has also influenced the way that John connects to The Web. This is certainly clear in how John uses it while still inside Arthur. Admittedly, I need to do a bit more work on my end about how he feeds in his own body. John also is marked by The Spiral and The End from the King in Yellow! Why? Well, the Spiral is all about madness and not being able to trust your own mind and thoughts. That is exactly what the King in Yellow does! The End may not be as clear at least in Malevolent. However, there is a lovely video by the Tale Foundry that talks about The King in Yellow as a metaphorical corpse of god and heaven which I just had to include in one form or another. John is also marked by The End in part of the Dark World as is where all of the dead things from other worlds are discarded. John is also marked by the Dark and the Vast by the Dark World. The Dark is due to…well…I mean it’s in the name- The Vast is due to the fact that if this Dark World contains the dead and forgotten things from other worlds or possibly dead worlds themselves, then the plane has got to be massive. Most likely further than the eye can see.
Father Oscar Pilon-Garcia
Avatar Alignment: Dominant- The Corruption, Co-Passive- The Web/The Eye - Pupil – THE SAINT
Marked: The Slaughter (Father McKenna)
Explanation: Oh, Oscar… let’s get into it. Firstly, why is Oscar’s dominant fear The Corruption? It would have been the only fear that he fell to if it weren’t for Arthur and John <3. Why? I will direct your attention to Part 37 “The Farm” in which Oscar is 100% most assuredly about to be taken over by some parasitic worm if his arm wasn’t severed. This gets pulled on heavily by the other Fears when Oscar feeds, but we’ll get into that in a sec.
I’ve established before that Oscar’s fall to The Eye and The Web were the fault of Arthur and John. He was NOT supposed to originally fall to those Fears, if any. But he did as his fall was able to pull on just enough inclination in those areas. Oscar is intelligent! We’ve seen this in how he deduced McKenna’s true intentions when he was younger and his investigative assistance to Arthur and John during everything with Scratch. So, there are some Eye inclinations to be pulled on. Now, Oscar is also fairly Web flavored. In general, we’ve seen that The Web loves to prey on religion and I think she has a particular drive towards priests(*motions to Father Edwin Burroughs in TMA* *motions to Father John Ward in Faith: The Unholy Trinity*). We’ll discuss the positives of this first. Like John, Oscar really had a particular fate weighed out for him that he rejected. He was 100% set up to be the violent, unwanted child to turn away from faith the moment he got out of the orphanage and on his own. However, he didn’t. He wasn’t adopted (I suppose due to the violence?) but went through process of holy orders and ordination in order to do his small part in balancing out the evil people that plague the magisterium and to specifically help others through service. Now, to the bad. Oscar truly, truly felt as though his calling and his purpose was Arthur. He gave up everything for Arthur. Finally, it felt like he could see the pieces fall into place as though all of the everything he went through had a direction. He was strung along and then that string was cut. Very abruptly with very little explanation. He doesn’t know the context for that abandonment but what he does know is the fact that he finally felt like his life meant something substantial and that was discarded. He was used. A pawn. A puppet. (Are we crying yet?).
I debated on a few options for Oscar’s title before settling on THE SAINT as it separates it enough from the titles of Priest or Father but brings in a comparison of Saints supposed to being these “exemplars of godliness” and the Fears manipulating Oscar’s ways of being a faithful servant to the people into feeding opportunities.
Speaking of which, how does Oscar feed with all this mess? Firstly, Oscar absolutely abhors feeding. This poor babe will attempt to starve himself in order to spare someone else the trouble. But he must somehow. Now, as a Catholic, I think the idea of Confessional Booth feeding is quite appealing in this case. It’s truly perfect for him. This Sacrament is supposed to be entirely confidential: just between the confessor, the priest, and God. And the Fears entirely twist it. The Eye pries into a person’s worst acts, The Web manipulates what is normally safe situation and a person’s trust in this church authority, and The Corruption worms its way into the situation in the form of the religious ideology of Sin being a stain, a plague on the divine human soul. Oh HO! It’s awful. I love it.
Charlie Dowd Noel Finley
Avatar Alignment: Tri-Cooperative – The Spiral/The Web/The Eye – Pupil – THE INVESTIGATOR
Marked: The Buried (Prison Pits)
Explanation: I have seen SO many takes for Noel’s avatarship and they are so interesting!! Stranger!Noel, Vast!Noel, Dark!Noel! All very interesting options that I can see exactly where everyone gets these from. So, why the three I settled on?
(Y’all are going to throw me to the dogs for this)
Generally, when you see a tri-avatar, your automatic assumption is that they’re going to be a relatively high powered one due to their multiple associations. This is the exact opposite case with Noel. His three Fears are fully cooperative due to the fact that they represent his ties to three other Avatars- Arthur, John… and the King in Yellow. Noel has the sort of opposite case than Oscar did that he is very Eye inclined but much less inclined towards the Web. If you take a look at Noel’s previous occupations (i.e police, private eye, detective, and back to private eye in this au’s case) they are VERY Eye heavy. The Web mostly comes out in the trickery that we see Noel pulling off especially in the cases of his expedition in Egypt and his taking on of his best friend’s persona in order to protect himself. The Spiral is quite fun to play around with when it comes to Noel, though. Clearly, this man has gone through enough madness and mind games when it comes to the King in Yellow trying to pull information out of him about the whereabouts of John’s book. He quite literally cannot trust his own mind during his entire time in the Dreamlands. Then you have this odd dynamic after he gets out of the Dreamlands. He takes on not just the “name” of his best friend but specifically the “persona” of his best friend. Why is this distinction important? We assume that, on the surface, the King in Yellow was impersonating Charlie when he was “Adam Fry” in Part 5 “The Gift”. However, Charlie states that he is familiar with Adam Fry because he used “his best friend’s voice” in doing so. So, Adam Fry continues to be an impersonation of Noel, it’s just that, you guessed it, Charlie is also impersonating Noel. However, it’s become so ingrained in his personality over his time the Dreamlands and his two years in New York that he can’t separate the impersonation from his own personality. That’s why we don’t see him drop it at all, not even slightly, in front of Arthur and John. So, not only do you have Noel losing bits of his sanity in the Dreamlands, but you also have him losing a sense of himself outside of the Dreamlands in which he and his best friend’s personality become melded together.
As for marks, I knew that he would have an additional mark from the Prison Pits themselves aside from the overall Spiral. It’s difficult to put a specific fear to it when I don’t have detailed referenced, but I do believe the confinement of it all, the small cells, and the earthy aesthetic to them lends itself to The Buried.
Why the title of THE INVESTIGATOR. I’m sure you may be thinking, “Um, Ocelli. It’s ‘Detective’ Noel. It should be Detective” and I hear you. However, remember we have now placed the boys in the TMA universe in which I do wholeheartedly believe in the “Basira would’ve been an Eye Avatar if things went slightly differently.” Elias consistently calls her “Detective” and Eye Avatars generally call others by their title if formalities haven’t been dropped. So, unfortunately, that title is taken! Additionally, I think that Investigator covers more of Noel’s jobs as well! Just be grateful that I didn’t go with the titles of Prisoner or Captive that were rolling around for a bit in the mind.
I need to flesh out a bit more of Noel’s feeding specifically, but I’ll give you the small ideas I do have! Noel’s feeding is very interrogation based. I imagine this fully enclosed room that he visually imposes on the other person. It’s just a very dark concrete room, a table, two chairs, and a swinging overhead lamp. It’s entirely in black and white like a film noir except for Noel’s two piercing glowing yellow eyes fixated directly on the person. He asks all of the questions that the other person desperately does not want to answer all while this swinging lamp passes over the table before swinging away and basking the two in darkness once more. Now, while Noel uses the Eye and the Web to feed himself, the Spiral continues to feed off Noel himself, pulling on his identity crisis and sending him into these sleepwalking visions of the Dreamlands. It twists his relationship with them, making him think that that’s where he belongs. And as a fun little treat, it messes with his language as well. In these Spiral induced states, Noel can only speak in Carcosan (is that a thing? It probably isn’t but it is now!) meaning that generally John is the only one that can get Noel back to his senses.
Dennis “The Butcher” Collins
Avatar Alignment: Cooperative-The Hunt/The Slaughter
Marked: N/A
Explanation: Yep, the Butcher is in this too because I love he <3 and this is me and my friend’s self-indulgent “they live” au! The fact that we felled them to horrible fears in the process is entirely beside the point. I feel like the Butcher is the most obvious of these when it comes to fear choices. Like John, I don’t think there’s much debate on which ones he could be. Throughout the majority of season four, he quite literally uses like calling hunting a “devotion” and the love that he has for it. Additionally, Dennis seems to enjoy not only the hunting aspect of it but the killing as well. He likes the blood. He likes the gore. He is a renown serial killer due to this. Also the clear music themes associated with The Slaughter in TMA are also present with Dennis singing as he kills and the constant song playing in his mind. This is also why I think he is a fully cooperative dual avatar because the Hunt and the Slaughter are both fully used each time that he feeds. As for feeding, I don’t think he changes much! I’m sorry his is so short but ah… yeah, that’s all I have-
Nyarlathotep Kayne
Avatar Alignment: Dominant- Slaughter, Tri-Passive- The Web/The Eye/The Spiral – THE ENTROPY KAYNE :]
Marked: N/A
Explanation: Kayne, Kayne, Kayne… Kayne is so fun to play around with. Oh my gosh. He messes with literally everything. Let’s get into it. Kayne’s dominant fear as the Slaughter is VERY clear. This man is covered in blood constantly, he killed every other version of himself, he kills other people in extremely gruesome ways and relishes in every bit of it. So, yes, Slaughter is dominant here and was the fear used to pick up the rest of the ones he has. Kayne is also very Web. He is playing chess while everyone is playing checkers. He knows exactly know to nudge his little pawns into place to get them exactly where he needs them. A master manipulator in all forms. He killed all versions of himself in order to be able to “play all the keys.” I think Kayne also has his Eye moments. Due to the fact that he can dance across the keys of the different universes, he has a lot of information. He knows what to tease out of people to get them do what he needs to. I also think this is why his inability to see the Black Stone grates against him so much. Because he needs it but he CAN’T see it. He can see all of this other stuff but not this one. thing. he. needs. Oh! How frustrating!! Kayne is also Spiral. He’s not dominantly Spiral but just listen to him, come on. Spiral drips off of his entire everything. With the amount of mental strife he’s caused to so many people and his love of chaos, Spiral is definitely there as well.
Due to the fact that Kayne is a preexisting Great Old One and a really powerful one at that, he is able to manipulate a lot of the systems the Fears have set in place for his own gain. The most egregious one is his manipulation of The Eye’s chain. Firstly, he’s gouged his title out, figuratively, to simply be his own name. No one else gets to name him, thank you <3. It’s HIS job to pass out the nicknames! Silly Eye… Additionally, with just how high Kayne is on the chain, he also gets a Pupil. Who’s his Pupil? Well, no other than our precious little English rose, Artie! “But! Ocelli! You said that Arthur is Triple! He’s high up there! He even has his own Pupils! How in the world is he a Pupil?” See, the silly thing about Kayne is that he’s forming a chain of his own using The Eye’s Great Chain of Being to bond Arthur to himself, and thus also bonding Arthur’s Pupils to himself as well. Didya notice that the Fears that Kayne is tied to is also the Fears that the other boys are too? That isn’t a mistake <3. As a fun little added bonus, Kayne also totally changed what spiders were tied to John and Arthur from The Web to the Sparklemuffin and Bunny Harvestman respectively. I highly recommend looking at pictures of those. They’re wonderful.
Thanking you for giving me your time to read this! I hope you enjoyed it! Please feel free to send in asks about it! This has been bouncing around in my mind since I began listening to Malevolent at the beginning of this year and I’m so happy to finally be able to share it with you <3
#this literally took me 4.5 hours#bless…#please enjoy#please reblog to make the time worth it!!#malevolent#malevolent podcast#tma#the magnus archives#tmagp#the magnus protocol#arthur lester#arthur malevolent#john doe#john doe malevolent#noel malevolent#detective noel#charlie dowd#oscar malevolent#father oscar#kayne malevolent#the butcher malevolent#the butcher#dennis collins#malevolent dennis collins#tma entities#malevolent au#tma au#also for my loves that read my ungodly tags you get the news that ourthur and dollins is canon in this#let them balance the fear with love#ocelli rambles
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okay my mind is reeling from the latest episode i'm going to fucking explode this is one of the best episodes... period
so cecil's dad... left when cecil was born. For what reason, it's hard to tell. The narrative certainly seems to be setting it up as a concious choice, framing him as an absent father rather than just a dead one. The line "It’s not incomprehensible that two living, physical people could haunt each other." makes me really think the Gershwin-Palmer relationship was not a healthy one in any way.
But either way, he left, and maybe he died after he left, or maybe he left because he died.
But he's gone, and it broke their mother. She mourned him, she was forever haunted by him, haunted by the him she saw in Cecil. It completely ruined any semblance of relationship she had with her kids. As Cecil tells us in 182 (It Sticks With You), "Our mother wouldn’t speak to us. She would just walk and walk, much faster than we could. I think she wanted to lose us in the shadowy labyrinth of tall trees. [...] we always found our mom. She was at the same old tree, leaving flowers at the base of its giant trunk. And we would hike home. I don’t remember who the flowers were for. Maybe she never said."
That's as plain as it gets. She abandoned them, consumed in her grief and her anger. And, as we learn in Ghost Stories, she never recovered.
There's also the oracle element, however. And the Mirrors. That's weird, right? The prophecy that Cecil would die, and it would involve a mirror? Is this real? Is this an element of her mental deterioration? I can't say for certain. I hope it's not, I don't want cecil to die by murder.
And the trees. God, the trees. The trees are fucking everywhere and this isn't necessarily an unanswered question, more of a thematic element I want to draw more attention to.
Cause we have all the drawings of trees in 245, and we have 182.
But then there's episode 132, "Bedtime Story."
And this is a DOOZY. This is a story Cecil's mother used to tell him (Not Abby?) meaning that:
there were times she did managed to be somewhat motherly, although perhaps this was influenced by her weird oracular relationship with him
she told him. A bedtime story. About a little boy who felt neglected by his family, so he went out and dug into the mud and turned into A TREE.
I just want you to really take that in. This little boy felt neglected by his family, so he turned into a tree and eventually grew to abandon his humanity to the point where he could no longer recognize or comprehend the passing of his own family.
"And then my mother would pat my head and say: "Good night, Cecil. Good night." Or so I imagined. By then, I was long asleep." Cecil's mom... probably didn't do that. But he imagined she did.
I've lost the spoons to write out a shitton of analysis but I haven't seen anyone bring up Bedtime Story in reference to ep 246 and I think they really should
Also something something "What would be worse than death? Living long enough to stop being a human" "Oh Cecil is... way older than he knows isn't he...."
#i have so many feelings y'all#this is one of my favorite plot threads in the entire show#wtnv spoilers#wtnv 246#wtnv#cecil gershwin palmer#abby palmer
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every day I think about episode 73 - ‘triptych’ - and I think about This specifically:
I think about how— despite everything— despite all of the terrible things kevin has done, despite all of the crimes against night vale, despite all of the reasons cecil hates him— cecil still gave him the one thing he knew he needed most in that moment:
hope.
of course kevin doesn’t win, and he gets brainwashed by strexcorp and everything unfolds just the way it does in cecil’s timeline, but he didn’t tell kevin that.
I’ve seen some people in the fandom bring this interaction up as a criticism against cecil for giving kevin false hope, but… what was he supposed to say?
cecil knew he couldn’t change anything. he knew there was nothing he could do to actually ‘fix’ the kevin he knows today… but he knew he could also, at the very least, give him hope. and a listening ear. someone to offer reassurance, even for just a moment.
every day I think about how, despite his flaws, cecil is just fundamentally a kind person. he saw this younger kevin struggling in the same way he did when future kevin inflicted the same sort of pain against him and his town, and he took it as an opportunity to try and soften the blow the best he could.
every day I think about cecil gershwin palmer. every day I think about him
#weeping#he means . so much to me#cecil the world actually#cecil gershwin palmer#wtnv cecil#cecil palmer#wtnv#welcome to night vale#wtnv kevin#kevin desert bluffs#kevin wtdb#wtdb#thoughts
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Listeners, yes Sans is a tumblr sexyman, but he's had his time in the sun! He's won this before.
Voting Cecil Gershwin Palmer as Tumblr Sexyman 2023 would bring us back to a full circle! Many people's first foray into the tumblr world was Welcome to Night Vale.
It's been over 10 years since it's started and to my knowledge, it's still ongoing. This is a great opportunity to bring in a new generation of Night Vale citizens. The internet has changed over the past decade, I want to see Cecil reimagined! I want more crossovers and cosplays!
Cecil helped start the concept of the tumblr sexyman, let's at least pay our respects for this pioneer of his time. Also, he canonically has a tumblr account, has an eldritch cat, and is a dilf and loving husband. Could you really ask for more?
#tumblr sexymen poll#welcome to night vale#wtnv#cecil palmer#wtnv cecil#do it for carlos#cecil wtnv#i want to see this man EVOLVE#lets start a Renaissance of cats in the mens bathroom#khoshekh#desert bluffs dni#i do not like kevin#cecilsweep#vote cecil 2023
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could you do cecil gershwin palmer (bpd) and carlos the scientist (npd) from welcome to night vale? i can share some fanart of them, also since they are podcast characters.
Cecil Gershwin Palmer and Carlos the Scientist from Welcome to Night Vale are BPD4NPD
art by @/mellowmaidenhairs
#cecil palmer#carlos the scientist#wtnv#submissions#bpd4npd#bpd#npd#borderline personality disorder#narcissistic personality disorder
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Hey Nico!
Could you perhaps give me, as a person who hasn't listened to WTNV before, a basic summary? I'm really interested in learning more about it!
Ok. I have no idea how to answer that. But I'll try my best. This here will be the version without any major spoilers if you want more details about what happened in the seasons the lore and all you can either send an ask or just DM me (I will love to talk to you either way, bestie).
So let's go.
Welcome to Nightvale is a fiction podcast that mostly follows the (now mandatory) comunity radio show of the fictional city of Nightvale. "A friendly desert community where the sun is hot, the moon is beautiful, and mysterious lights pass overhead while we all pretend to sleep."
Nightvale is a strange city. With strange norms and where the unusual is normal. It's a very dangerous city as well, with tragedy and danger at every corner. But it's citzens are close knit, people care about each other and there's none of the types of bigotry we see on our world.
The voice that guides us through Nightvale is our friendly and wacky radio host: Cecil Gershwin Palmer. He is one of my favorite characthers and he is really weird and complex and the ultimate Tumblr Sexyman.
As the episodes go we are presented with more and more of this comunity and met is fascinating residents. Like Carlos, the scientist that came to Nightvale to study it because he and his team find the city to be the most scienticaly interesting comunity around (now while they have a past conected to Lubelle, Carlos and his team are the good scientists), Cecil falls in love with him the moment he meets him though Carlos takes longer to reciprocate. They are the main couple.
Some other famous characthers are John Peters (you know the farmer), Steve Carlsberg, the Glow Clous (all hail), Dana, Tamika Flyn, Old Woman Josie and the Erikas (the likely bíblical accurated angels and the old woman they live with), the Faceless Old Woman that secretly lives in the house of all nightvale citzens, Deb the sentient patch of haze, Kosheck the statiom cat, City Council (an entidy with many heads), Kevin and soo many more.
Nightvale is a mostly linear story that has been going for ten years with some arcs like Strext Corp, Lot 37, the Evil Beagle, Doctor Lubelle and the University of What It Is (the current one) and the slowly unconver of Cecil's confusing and misterious past that started with "Cassetes" the 33th episode years ago.
Is really good and created a lot of the tropes used in modern horror and comedy podcasts. It also was a strong step into good queer representatitivity having an openly jewish gay main characther whose queernes was never used as mockery since 2012 and whose main interest was a gay latino man who is described as being dark skinned. And the representatitivity only improved with time.
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I feel like a lot of people don't know how 100% Tumblr Culture the character of Cecil Gershwin Palmer is. This is a character who, in the first episode, outs with the fact that he's gay so plainly and bluntly ("and I fell in love instantly") that some people didn't believe it was a thing until he got with the object of his affections several episodes later.
He has no canon character design. We do not know what he looks like. He's described as being "neither tall nor short, neither thin nor fat," and that's all we've got.
He lives in a paranormal surrealist horror town where there are ghosts and angels and monsters and a floating cat in the bathroom of the radio station, the manager of which is some kind of horrifying tentacle monster.
Cecil lost his mother under mysterious circumstances when he was a kid—not because of the paranormal surrealist horror, but because she was a severely mentally ill alcoholic who could not take care of her children. He delivers a beautiful soliloquy about it that is one of the best parts of the entire series.
His love interest, Carlos, was originally voiced by one of the writers; eventually they re-cast him to be played by a queer POC because the character is a queer POC and the team did not feel right not representing him properly.
His actor, also named Cecil, is an openly HIV+ gay man who brings some of the best energy to a live show that I've ever seen; if you get the chance to see WTNV live, do it.
This show is such a cornerstone of fandom on this platform that the WTNV crew was invited to DashCon as guests of honor. (They showed up, too, but I think we all know how that went. 2014 was a hell of a time.)
Anyway vote for Cecil, thanks.
#wtnv#I have a lot of feelings about cecil okay#I've seen WTNV live like 5 times#cannot recommend it enough#without wtnv tumblr would not be tumblr
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