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Had a dream last night where Miss Holloway was forced by the lords to write a song that would mind control people and I feel like that would be a fun fic premise
#also all the characters from phineas and ferb were there but that's not important#hatchetfield#miss holloway#fic idea
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Linda Flynn-Fletcher
I think Linda Flynn-Fletcher is potentially one of the most misunderstood characters in the show.
It think comes from a natural enough place. Her role in the show is of course, to act as the potential threat to their summers of fun. While they boys never see her as a threat, narratively she's the big bad. If she sees it, its game over.
Here's the thing though. She's a not a bad mom. Her children LOVE her. Similarly to how Phineas and Ferb absolutely adore Candace and would do nearly anything she asked, Phineas, Ferb and Candace all love and respect their mother and don't disobey her. Now a bit of this is clearly Linda being a more permissive parent, but any rules that Linda has Phineas and Ferb never do anything to disobey their mother. While I wouldn't be surprised if there were one or two instances where Candace disobeyed her mother willfully, the closest I can think off off hand is Candace not doing a bunch of chores that she was supposed to do. Really, the fact that all her kids love her, shows how much all her kids feel loved in their household. And I think that's super important. Candace wrote a song about how much she feels loved by her mom, even if her mom is dismissive of Candace. But she still goes with Candace to see what the boys are up to even if she doesn't believe it. She sets boundaries on how often Candace can bust the boys sure. But she hasn't forbidden Candace from doing it altogether. Nor does she punish Candace for presumably lying?
At MOST Linda will say something like: "let's get you out of the sun" after a failed bust. The worst of it I think is probably the time Linda made her promise not to try or suffer the Pharaohs curse. Which, was just some guy in a Pharaoh costume telling Candace curse you. Linda goes out of her way to read books to try and deal with her daughter. She and Candace still clearly hold a lot of affection for each other and do spend a decent amount of mother daughter time together. Linda gives books to her daughter, tries to direct her to other activities, and finds her sleep busting cute, and sometimes goes out of her way to do activities her daughter wants to do with her. All things considered Linda is REALLY patient about Candace's busting. Could she be doing more to get to the bottom of why Candace is presumably acting out? Sure. But Doofensmirtz could also be doing a better job of listening to his daughter and not insulting her (or do we not remember why Vanessa wears earbuds around the house) but we all call him a really good dad.
A LOT of shows have kids hiding a secret from a parent for one reason of another. But while the crux of the show rests on Linda not knowing what her sons are doing, its not because its a secret. The boys aren't hiding it from her. The boys genuinely believe she knows. Lawrence genuinely believes she knows. Candace is the only one in the family who really grasps the situation.
Linda's ignorance, her disbelief of the wild shenanigans that her children get into is easily mistakable for normality. For representing the oppressive day to day. The same thematic antagonist as school. A mom who wants whats best for her kids, and thinks that whats best for them is them being normal, without realizing what's really best for them. After all why else we saw what would happen if she found out in Quantum Boogaloo. But the fact of the matter is aside from that one future (which also featured an effectively evil leader in Doofensmirtz, and therefore implies more factors at play than just Doofensmirtz and Linda's characters), we don't really know how it would play out in the long term. Future Linda even just kinda moves on after discovering the truth.
Linda is exactly like her kids. She just does the same things on a less physics breaking scale. The woman has like 37 different hobbies. She takes a cooking class, donated an art sculpture, is part of a jazz group. She has a background in astrophysics. She was a pop star. She won a meatloaf contest. She takes french lessons. The fact that Linda has several hobbies is part of the reason the formula works at all. Linda is constantly trying new things which gets her out of the house, while her sons are trying their own new things. Her absence is what prompts Candace to have to go looking for her. Also, What Do It Do when the moment Linda gets put in Candace's position she acts the exact same way.
Also it's why she and Lawrence are so compatible. They have a lot of weird hobbies they spend together. She likes Lawrence's history references. They watch car racing together. They went spelunking together. They go bowling regularly enough to have equipment. She has played the bagpipes while Lawrence danced (which sidenote: do you think she taught Candace how to play the bagpipes?).
Not to mention her extended family. Think about it. Her mom was a competitive roller derby skater who once bit a skate and shook it like a dog with a chew toy and pulls elaborate pranks with her identical twin. Really she's a lot like Candace with her aggressive passion. Her dad apparently won a balloon race, but tells the story in the most straightforward way possible, sometimes very oblivious, but is overall a lot like Phineas. Her sister is an adrenaline junky. And back to Quantum Boogaloo for a minute: Her granddaughter is just like Candace, Grown up Candace is a lot like Linda. Do you not see the implications!!?!?!? LIKE???? DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT LINDA WAS PROBABLY A LOT LIKE CANDACE AND PHINEAS WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER?!!?! YOU THINK IT SKIPPED A GENERATION OR SOMETHING???
Do you think Linda used to complain about Tiana??? Do you think Linda thought her family was weird and was embarrassed by them??? Do you think Linda ever called herself the only mature/normal member of her family?? LIKE CANDACE DOES????
Anyway, Linda is just like her family. Sure, she is RELATIVELY more normal, but that's relative, and probably simply because the universe bends itself around to keep her from knowing. Linda literally cannot find out about the real nature of her universe. Linda is just a grown up version of her children, seeking to make the most of each day, but within the bounds the universe has set upon her, both as an adult woman and mother, but also in the laws of physics expected of her. But she still makes the most of her life. You don't have to build a roller coaster to make the most of each day and all that.
I think if Linda is representing anything its that even parents can have rich fulfilling lives. Where they make the most out of each day. Having fun with your life doesn't stop with adulthood. Even if you have more responsibilities doesn't mean you can't have fun? Sure childhood is something you can't get back but growing up isn't inherently bad either?
#pnf#phineas and ferb#linda flynn fletcher#The woman is a former pop star#and has a secret background in astrophysics#you would think that would be enough but nooo#i generally don't care to comment on the suspected neurodivergent status of cartoon characters#because neurodivergency exists in the context of society#and cartoon characters exist in a completely different context#and when characters are inspired by real people (like Linda being inspired by Dan's sister) it can get messy#but if Phineas and Candace and Doofensmirtz are ADHD so is Linda#she just has adult woman flavor ADHD#aka the reason that woman and girls go underdiagnosed or are often diagnosed with anxiety instead#I think we often don't recognize how frequently she forgets things#I'm thinking back to that one time she forgot the “stuff” at the grocery store#she stayed up all night making last minute pies#working up to the deadline on an art sculpture#at one point runs out of contacts (presumably because she forgot to get more)#gets overwhelmed when planning the block party#and that's just what I can think of off hand#anyway I will not stand for Linda slander
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"You know, he's the yin to my yang. He completes me."
So the funny part about Dan repeatedly calling Perry the yin to Doof's yang (besides the fact that he can just freestyle some Greek tragedy level bullshit about Doof & Perry's relationship on the fly for Radio Disney or an episode commentary track) is that at face value you might also be like, okay but why is Doof the "yang" (light) and Perry the "yin" (dark)?
I didn't say good vs evil because that's not what yin and yang are about. As a concept it's one of those terms from another language that have variable meanings in English depending on who's using it and why, but its most enduring interpretation - with the disclaimer that I am not a philosopher, just someone who is far too invested in overthinking relationships in a kid's cartoon - is the idea that they are opposing but complementary forces of the energy that the universe operates on.
It's a balance. According to Lao-Tzu, "everything is embedded in yin and embraces yang; through [vital energy] it reaches [harmony]". Two sides of the same coin, sun and moon, my other half - you get the idea. It's not hard to see why Perry and Doof are complementary but opposite; one can't exist without the other: Perry all but gives up evil when Doof has that brief dalliance with Peter; Perry has exactly two POV songs in the entire show and both of them relate to Doof, one of which explicitly states "[his] life, it seems, is empty" without Doof's scheming and he "gave [Perry's] life heroic cause"; and he straight up has no idea what to do with his life and makes the saddest platypus sound ever when Doof bans thwarting as Tri-Governor in LDOS.
On the other hand, Doof is a lot easier to see - partly because he actually talks (though Perry is actually one of the most facially expressive characters in the show - by necessity - though I digress). He's overt about his affections and very clingy (a result of childhood trauma and abuse/neglect by his parents) because Perry's his only real friend. He all but begs Perry to thwart him in that whale episode, he became really upset when Perry seemed to be helping him in the episode with the Dull-and-Boring-inator but was just using him to fix the problem with Phineas and Ferb, and he can't bear to leave Perry behind in Road to Danville, just to list a few sillier examples off the top of my head. Really, the entire B plot could be used as evidence.
(There's also the fun dynamic of Perry being an animal that has human-level sentience, and Doof being a human that was raised by animals - ocelots - during some of his formative years.)
So they're irrevocably intertwined. One of the most important characters in each other's life, according to Dan from SDCC 2015. The LDOS ending song even puts Perry smack dab in the middle of the Doofenshmirtz family with Heinz, Vanessa, and Norm - two other characters deeply wrapped up with Perry as a result of Doof himself. I mean, look at them:
Yeah, this was an excuse to make you look at one of my favorite scenes and witness Perry's hopelessly fond smile, not sorry.
Anyway, back to yin-yang. They were originally ascribed to just "day" and "night", and eventually came to also mean "movement" (because you work during the day), and "rest" (because you sleep at night). In terms of qi, they embody heaven and earth, and in the collection of essays of the Huainanzi, "yang is generated from yin and yin is generated from yang [...] sometimes there is life, sometimes there is death, that brings the myriad things to completion". Technical details of Chinese philosophy aside (which I'm sure exactly nobody is considering when they call someone the yin to their yang - it's really just the "you complete me" part), the words themselves also have various opposing definitions: positive/negative, active/passive, sun/moon, overt/covert, etc etc etc you get the idea.
In terms of their relationship, Doof has the more active role. He's one who makes the crazy inators and plots elaborate traps and monologues everyday; Perry usually just reacts to that accordingly. Doof play-acts at a lofty, larger-than-life "evil", while Perry keeps him grounded ("you are my rock" and "having you around just makes me feel, you know, safer"). Perry isn't necessarily a wholly passive character, but also, like, a lot of his plot is just Shit Happens and Perry Has to Deal With It. Doof is overt about his "evil" schemes and can't stand even white lies. Perry spends his entire life hiding aspects of himself and keeping secrets from his loved ones, and he has a whole song in CATU about being an unrecognized hero. One of these characters is living in the "dark" more than the other...
Doof is overflowing with emotions - most of them negative, but also love: so much so that his daughter feels smothered, because a lot of that love (while borne of good intentions) is misguided, and Doof fails to actually listen to her; it takes a few rocky starts (helped along by Perry himself) before they get to the point where Vanessa considers her dad a "misunderstood genius" and convinces him to give up evil. On the other hand, Perry keeps his cards close to his chest - it's not that he doesn't know how to emote (he clearly adores his boys in ATSD and he apparently is happy to hang out with Doof as a friend outside of his job enough that he has a whole wallet of photos of them just goofing off together), he doesn't because of necessity. He's better than anyone at separating his work life (fighting evil) from his pet life (pretending to be a mindless animal) from his personal life (how much he loves his family, watching his silly dramatic soaps, having a petty streak and sassing Monogram a bit, is genuine friends with Doof).
As a result, he is full of emotions he rarely gets to express - around the Flynn-Fletchers specifically, because Doof does know he's sentient, which is another reason I think they click. Doof gets the single-minded attention he never had; Perry gets the treatment as an equal he never had. They both gain a friendship, and a new sort of family. There's a part of their life imbalanced when the other isn't present.
The yin and the yang. They complete each other.
#phineas and ferb#perry the platypus#heinz doofenshmirtz#pnf#cat talks#this is why they are the most compelling characters/relationship in the show to me#the higher stakes of the B plot are fun and all but the characters are still what really get me#this ain't about the ship but like they're very queercoded too if you wanna go there#ii just think their characters are FASCINATING how they play off each other#how important they are to each other#anyway i have several exams coming up so obviously i wrote this instead
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Anyway, because I’m on a nostalgia bender and can’t stop talking about Phineas and Ferb, while I do want to see the revival I’m also pretty hesitant about it.
Like, half the joke of the original was how static and formulaic it was: The boys build some spectacular machine and Candace tries to bust them. Doofenshmirtz builds a bizarre Inator and Perry tries to take him down. The A and B plots intersect in some way and the universe does whatever it needs to to get things back to the status quo before Mom gets home. Candace and Doof inevitably fail and don’t retain whatever lesson they learn (usually that the people in their life are what is truly important to them, not some arbitrary goal). The characters and their dynamics DO change over time, but by degrees.
And it’s a funny joke! An endless, dreamy summer where everything is possible but eventually the real world will come knocking and you have to get back to school. Everything happens and nothing changes. It’s both hilarious and oddly fitting.
But, I dunno. Do I really want to go back to that? I love these characters but if another year has gone by and they’re ultimately exactly the same? Part of the problem is just that Last Day of Summer closed out the series on a pretty much perfect note. It seems like some of the lessons were finally starting to sink in (I hear there’s even more of that for Candace in CvtU but I haven’t watched that yet), everyone was ready for the summer to end and all the main characters got to say goodbye. I always have issues when incredibly good endings don’t stay endings.
And like, I KNOW. I’m not a kid anymore and what I want from the series isn’t really that important (though there’s no doubt in my mind they’re banking on nostalgia quite a bit) and it may very well be that the writing is still fucking hilarious which is all that really matters. Just thinking I guess.
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Cartoon Series Pt. 3.5 | Gregor and the ... Vendetta of Longclaw?
This is technically part 4 in my cartoon/Phineas and Ferb style wallpapers of every TUC quest series ... except hold up, what in the what now is this quest? What is "Gregor and the Vendetta of Longclaw"? Since when??
... Since A Henry Story, actually.
Yes, this is an original quest, exclusive to AHS. In the AHS universe, 18 months pass between COTW and MOS, partially to accommodate this quest because it is rather crucial (for details, see below.)
For those of you who have read it, you will know that part 3 of AHS 2 is essentially ... its own TUC book. It feels more disconnected from the rest of the book because it is its own story, with its own quest and mini-arc. Thematically, it fits into AHS 2, and it also concludes Henry's character arc for that book, as well as deals with the villain, hence why it is still in that book. I still jokingly always refer to this part as "TUC 3.5 - Gregor and the Vendetta of Longclaw", because ... well, that's what it is.
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Because it is original and most of you will have never read it, let me tell you a few core details about this quest (spoiling as little as possible):
There is no prophecy. As you can read on the image version with text, this quest is jumpstarted by a kidnapping ... of no other than Stellovet by a former general of Gorger's called Longclaw, who successfully evaded the plague and is after the crown of the gnawers.
All of this starts when Luxa takes Gregor on a day trip to the Fount (this does not go as planned as it becomes a full-blown quest.) So yes, they depart from the Fount that time. You get to actually see the Fount in AHS.
Gregor and Luxa were actually forbidden from coming. York and Susannah decided they couldn't risk the warrior and the queen, no matter the demands, and sent Howard, the outcast known as "Death Rider" (who has aided several quests and saved many important lives, earning himself a hero reputation ... and who no one realizes is actually Henry), and her governess Dalia who was there when she was taken, to rescue Stellovet without complying with the demands.
Guilt tripped by the notion that the kidnappers were serious and would kill Stellovet if they didn't show up, Gregor and Luxa decide to follow after them without anyone's consent (believe me, Gregor is as bewildered by this decision as you are probably, right now. As he puts it: "Looking out into the darkness, Gregor almost laughed at the absurdity of his current situation. Was it Saturday already? Would he be at Mrs. Cormaci’s place now if he wasn’t stuck on this stupid rescue mission for someone he didn’t even like?") Hence why Boots is not there and neither Luxa nor Gregor are wearing clothes that one would necessarily pick for a quest (Gregor left Boots with his mom in Regalia and neither he nor Luxa brought spare clothes on a day trip, now they suffer the consequences.)
Your Regular Questing ensues ... cue an earthquake, a rat gladiator arena, some quality time spent in a gnawer prison pit, a crown retrieval, an epic duel, some bonding between Gregor and Dalia (who is the first proper commoner he meets in the Underland who's had a hard time growing up like Gregor himself), and a pretty shocking twist ... with grave consequences.
Dalia is more important than she seems. That ... that is essentially the essence. That and, this quest jumpstarts the character arcs of both Gregor (yes he gets an actual character arc in AHS, as opposed to original TUC), and Luxa (whose arc I wanna claim feels more organic and natural compared to the original due to this part.)
In general, we deep dive into the Fount siblings and Stellovet's and Luxa's warming up to each other, the societal issues between nobility and commoners in the Underland, which were never explored in the original, and some more pretty consequential sh*t XD Can you tell that this part is one of my favorite parts in all of AHS?
Now, with that in mind, let's look at the art again ... I should probably introduce the characters you won't know yet:
(r.t.l) Howard, Stellovet, Thanatos, Dalia (don't be fooled by how young she looks, she is actually 19, she is just very short and frail), Henry, (hanging) Aurora & Ares, (ground) Luxa & Gregor, Hera and her pups (a flier family they encounter in aforementioned gnawer prison pit.
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Anyway, if that sounds interesting to you, go read "A Henry Story" 👉 I promise it is very cool, and not just because of this quest! I have a post up on my tumblr where I link the first two books but you can find them on Wattpad, Ao3, and Quotev (my favorite<3) as well by simply browsing.
And check out the rest of this art series (on my tumblr feed)! I plan on doing all the quests. The first 3 TUC books are done!
Disclaimer: the bg is a stock image; the rest is drawn by me!
#gregor the overlander#suzanne collins#the underland chronicles#tuc#underland chronicles#a henry story#own art#ahs#gregor#luxa#regalia
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Recently there has been some news about how Phineas and Ferb will be getting two more seasons. As exciting as that is, I for one think there are other Disney Channel shows that should get another season because they were cancelled and the creators as well as some fans of those shows wanted at least one more season. Do not get me wrong, I like Phineas and Ferb and thought it was a good show, but I also felt like it was a show that had just the right amount of airtime and it seems to be very popular amongst the Disney company itself and a whole lot of people, whereas the following shows I’m about to talk about were very short lived and are not considered to be nearly as popular as Phineas and Ferb in terms of how Disney handled these shows and how it seemed like there were not as many fans of these shows compared to Phineas and Ferb.
(Potential spoilers for this show)
Wander Over Yonder was a show created Craig McCracken about a traveler named Wander who travels alongside his best friend Sylvia throughout the galaxy trying to help people with their problems any way they can, while a villain named Lord Hater and his second in command Commander Peepers set out to take over and rule the entire galaxy, but constantly fail to do so because of Wander either always getting in the way or annoying Hater with wanting to be his friend thereby ruining his plans for galactic conquest. The first season was very episodic where there were not many episodes that connected to each other, but you could still have tons of fun with the characters and humor that were presented throughout. Season two is where things started to get a little more interesting with an overarching plot of how there’s a new threat to the galaxy named Lord Dominator, a much more competent and dangerous villain compared to Hater, whose plan isn’t to rule the galaxy so much as destroy it, so it’s up to Wander, Sylvia, Hater, and Peepers to come up with some way to stop her before the entire galaxy lays in ruins, a little more dramatic but still fun all the same. Sadly there would never be a third season because it got cancelled which was such a shame because there were definitely more stories that could’ve been told like ‘What if Wander’s greatest challenge isn’t to convince Hater to become good but Peepers, since he’s the one who really cares about taking over the galaxy and not Lord Hater who really only wants to be popular and isn’t really that much of a villain compared to Peepers’ or ‘What would happen if Wander was to go to Earth’ or maybe even do backstory episodes about Wander, Sylvia, Hater, and Peepers. It doesn’t seem like there might even be a season three since Craig McCracken no longer works at Disney, but it would’ve been nice to see one. 🪕
(Potential spoilers for this show)
Milo Murphy’s Law was a show created by the very people who made Phineas and Ferb, Dan Povenmire and Jeff “Swampy” Marsh about a boy named Milo Murphy living through life with the constantly chaotic and at times unpredictable Murphy’s Law always being with him wherever he goes, Murphy’s Law being ‘Whatever can go wrong will go wrong’. In my opinion, I liked this show a lot more than Phineas and Ferb and I really do wish it had the same type of popularity as Phineas and Ferb as well as a season three. I just absolutely adore the characters in this show, my overall favorites being Milo Murphy, a character who despite all the craziness and bad luck that Murphy’s Law brings into his life always tries to find a way to overcome all the chaos thrown his way and manages to do it with an upbeat attitude and he’s just so nice and adorable to boot, as well as Vinnie Dakota and Balthazar Cavendish, two time travelers from the future who are assigned with what may be the most important mission of their lives… protecting Milo Murphy, I mean pistachios. Seriously though I always thought it would have been amazing and sweet to see Milo potentially being their ward/protege as well as him kind of being like a son to them whereas they would be like teachers and father figures to Milo throughout season three if there would’ve been a season three. I really do wish there was a season three and I think the creators would’ve loved to have a Milo Murphy’s Law Season Three, but supposedly that’s still up in the air. Here’s to hoping! 🎒
(Potential spoilers for this show)
Finally we have DuckTales (2017) created by Matt Youngberg and Francisco Angones about Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Webby going on adventures all over the world, finding treasures and the meaning of family, with the greatest adventurer and richest duck in the world Scrooge McDuck. You might be wondering why I consider this to be a series that doesn’t seem as popular as Phineas and Ferb and the reason I think that is because not only was this cancelled when the staff had more ideas for the show including a Negaduck episode that never came to be, but also think about it Phineas and Ferb was a series that came out around 2007/2008 and to this day even though it ended originally in 2015 there are still tons of reruns of this extremely popular show whereas DuckTales (2017) ended in 2021 and there are little to no reruns at all and the only time it seems like they show any reruns are when it’s Halloween or Christmas and they simply show the holiday specials that were made which were only three in total. Even though it’s a series that’s been off the air for a short while, I still wish that there was a season four that could’ve properly given characters like Huey, Gyro, Boyd, Fenton, Gandra, Fethry, and even Negaduck more screen time and episodes dedicated to them. I have no idea if Disney will ever give this series a season four or maybe even some sort of TV movie, but not all hope is lost because even though so far this series doesn’t seem to be on the same level of popularity as Phineas and Ferb, maybe in a couple years time it will be and maybe there can be some sort of continuation because of that. At least I hope so. 🦆
#I hope you enjoyed reading this#I really do wish that all of the series I mentioned could’ve had more seasons#wander over yonder#milo murphy's law#ducktales 2017#I love all these series so much and I wish they had a second chance
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Happy Storyteller Saturday!
Are there any places, objects, or even people in your stories inspired by or directly borrowed from your real life?
Share a snippet if you like 💜
Hi!
This is a good question. I take a lot of inspiration from my life, and from people I meet/places I've been. I think writing is super unique and kind of an intimate way of expressing oneself because every writer lives a different life and gets inspiration from their own experiences.
My main WIP right now is Steph's Crew. It is set in London in the year 2010. There isn't a specific reason for this... it was just a simpler time for me lol. I was still in primary school, and there wasn't anything that was bothering me or causing me any significant stress, Phineas and Ferb was still a running show... it was a pure time in my life. Plus, I used to go to London a lot growing up for day trips and stuff with my family, and I still do now (and we used to live there when I was really little. I'm going to university in London in September as well).
London is also a really big and diverse place where you can meet all kinds of different people and do all kinds of things. A lot of places in my story are fictional (e.g. the school that they go to), but I do incorporate some real places, too (e.g. Hampstead Heath and the London library).
Some of the inspiration for my characters come from people I meet (like friends from school, family members, etc). A lot of that is unintentional tho lol (e.g. one of my characters is super pessimistic and hates The Vampire Diaries... I read back over their scenes and realised that I have a classmate that's just like that. I ended up telling them, and they were super flattered that I "wrote their biography" - even though their character isn't even all that important to the story lol). Most inspiration comes from me, though. Like, things in my life and different facets of my own personality. A big example of this is Dylan and his family drama. He comes from a broken home and lives with a single parent (who he has a lot of conflict with). That's how I was brought up. I don't handle his problems the same way he does, but I did use his character to imagine how life could be if you chose to handle things differently.
I would give snippets, but I don't want to give too much away before I'm ready to... my project is still in development, and I do want to make some finishing touches to my chapters before I start posting some actual chapters. If that's ok.
Thanks for the ask, @winterandwords!
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I think Bunk’d could have had potential but i think it lost that when it didn’t have any connection to the original material or it shouldn’t have had any of the Jessie characters to begin with aside from like one of them it never felt like an actual spin off. I think seeing a Kim Possible spin off would have been fun or maybe even how My Babysitter’s A Vampire did it where the show comes after the movie, in this case the 2019 live action, but I think that or Hannah Montana but with a focus on Mikayla or something with an iconic character but more of a guest character. Although that one would be tricky because I feel like on of the binding forces of HM was lilly and miley’s friendship and I am not sure what would tie the other one together LOL
but anyway you always talk about going to Disney events in the discord, what would be the ultimate dream event put on by Disney that you would want to go to (i.e. parade, museum, live show, all of the above ect.)
take care - ❄️🎄
i do think it was weird for them to have a spinoff when you only have 3/4 of the kids from the original show. ive only seen a few eps of jessie, but im guessing all four kids are equally important more or less. if you had....8 kids in the original show and then 7/8 in the spin off that could be ok but i feel like 3/4 is a big loss relatively speaking. i also think the summer camp concept is a little random and you can only do so much with it. phineas and ferb and gravity falls managed to get summer focused shows right but i feel like thats not an inherently manageable plot.
those are some really neat ideas! i think christie would implode if there was a kp 2019 show lol. i wonder if they ever considered doing that. the idea of a show about a side character is really interesting too. i think that was what they were trying to do with alyson stoner's character in the ep of thats so raven where cory has a guest appearance on a tv show.
oh! speaking of spin offs about side characters, i shouldve mentioned this in my last answer: i know there was a spinoff about varian from tangled the series pitched that never got picked up. i feel like that doesnt entirely count as answer bc it was in fact pitched and theres info about it available online but still (while it didnt seem like the booms pilot got very far), since hes my fav i wouldve loved to have seen that!
on that note, is there a pilot that didnt get picked up in particular that you really wish had?
ive actually talked about this with some friends before, id love to see a museum exhibit dedicated to disney channel specifically! there was a disney channel section of the archives exhibit at d23 this year but i would love to see a full blown exhibit, especially bc that way you could have more variety beyond just the most popular shows and movies (they only had stuff like hsm, hannah montana, wizards, and camp rock. plus they only had costumes besides the wand used for wand IDs). ive been to some touring disney archives exhibits (some of which have included a few disney channel things), so i think that would be a really cool concept to do entirely with disney channel! they cant use any of my liv and maddie props or my stan plush tho lol. what about you?
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Alright then! MSo, Ninjago is a TV show that basically was made as a way to get parents to buy toys for their kids back in 2011. It has evolved beyond that, but that was the reasoning for it being created. It has a pretty medium sized fandom, probably a bit bigger than keeper.
It’s basic plot is that it follows a group of ninja with elemental powers that help defeat supernatural enemies. One such instance is when they face up against an evil genie creature.
There are two main characters who are important to the story: Lloyd, who is the green ninja, and Kai who is the red ninja. They are often depicted as being very brotherly and that’s what a lot of the fandom sees them as.
A little while ago, there was an account on Tumblr dedicated to running a bracket tournament on the best red and green duo. Obviously, Lloyd and Kai were put on it by a few different people, myself included.
It went pretty normal for the first round, where Kai and Lloyd won against Red Guy and Duck from Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared.
However, the normalcy was soon be over. Because in the next round, Ninja was up against Mario and Luigi. And I am pretty sure I don’t need to explain to you that Mario and Luigi are a very popular duo.
So the Ninjago community decided to come together to take down the popular duo. A few people @ a few different bug Ninjago blogs, which brought the poll into more people’s view. And the discord server for the most popular Ninjago fanfic shared a link, so it definitely was in people’s eye.
We almost lost, but we managed to eek out a win against the Mario and Luigi. To commemorate the occasion some people drew fanart. But the war wasn’t over yet.
The next battle for Ninjago was against Phineas and Ferb, one of the most iconic duos in cartoon history. But we were prepared.
Once again we all banded together and we managed to defeat Phineas and Ferb, this time in a landslide.
We only had one more opponent: Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. The Ninjago community knew that if we won this, then we could get at least some bragging rights that we won a popularity contest (even if we committed voter fraud.)
It was a fairly intense battle. We all shared link with each other in order to make sure we all had voted. Also, I may or may not have gotten some of my friends outside of the Ninjago community to vote for Lloyd and Kai.
Finally, it all came to a close. On March 2, Lloyd and Kai won, 64.7% to 34.3%. It took voter fraud, campaigning and a whole of working together but we done it. We won a popularity contest.
I am definitely not doing the story justice whatsoever, but if you want to see the polls, they were on redandgreenpoll tumblr.
Anyway, thank you for indulging my silly little story, and if you want to know more about Ninjago let me know!
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My apologies whenever I hear the word ninjas now my brain just goes "where did all these ninjas come from" to quote the one, the only, the velocipastor at 48 minutes and 20 seconds into this glorious movie. it's probably not as funny without the hilarity and mindset of the previous 48 minutes but I think about it...so often...
but hey! is that the lloyd who has the joke made about him like "uh no your name is lu-loyd, I named you and that's how it's pronounced" or whatever it is? pronouncing both the Ls?
back to your story: wow! you're right, you don't need to explain to me how popular those other duos are or how impressive it is that you beat them. I 100% believe you when you say it was voter fraud because those franchises are popular. i suppose ninjago is popular enough that I vaguely know about it's existence, but still! congrats to you all on your victory and all the bragging rights you now have :)
what an intense popularity contest. I'll have to look through that tumblr bracket showdown to get a better sense of what you're talking about, but thank you for sharing it with me! if you'd like to tell me more about ninjago, I'd be happy to listen, but otherwise i likely won't seek out further information (no offense. i just don't watch a lot of things in general, nothing against ninjago itself :) )
#ninjago#quil's queries#⚙️ nonsie#long post#i do also have a second ninjago post in my askbox right now from someone else explaining some of it#so i should probably also answer that one#oh you know what maybe the increased humidity from the rain is why my shorts weren't dry this morning#<- completely unrelated random thought but I already typed it out so it's staying#anyway! very fun story! even though I have very little context!#i am nodding my head along to your story with fond amused attention and slight perplexion :)
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While I do enjoy all three, I have to go with the OG, Phineas and Ferb. PNF found the best rhythm from the start; we're given a storyline for each group of characters, and by the end of every episode, everything that took place is all wrapped up in a neat little bow (save for the intended 2-parter of "Where's Perry?" that left us with a cliffhanger for a reason). The characters (both in personality and design) and humor are very memorable, and I'll tell you, until my recent rewatch, I hadn't seen the show since I was practically a kindergartener and yet I still remembered the entire main cast very well - which is really saying something for me as someone with otherwise awful memory issues. Phineas and Ferb became one of those core memory TV shows from my childhood that will always have a special place in my heart for years to come no matter how old I get.
Milo Murphy's Law, however, became a very close second favorite Dwampyverse show - despite a few minor grievances I'll give now. One, MML never found quite the same rhythm as PNF did when it came to intertwining character plotlines - and I'm especially talking about Cavendish and Dakota. In both seasons, their storyline often felt overlooked and/or dragged out for no reason and it felt like they couldn't give them enough story to survive the rest of the plot until the time travel and alien storylines came back in full swing. In both seasons, there were episodes where they were either missing altogether or only had one or two short scenes in an episode that made me question "why even include them in this episode at all if they're getting almost no screen time and aren't doing anything of much importance yet?", especially considering that they're not just background characters. Two, sometimes this show felt like it was afraid to get emotional. They'd come out with a partnership break-up storyline in season 2 between Cavendish and Dakota or Doofenshmirtz and Perry, and despite dragging it out for multiple episodes, everything was resolved in probably not even a minute long exchange of dialogue and it's like- what. Definitely felt like there should've been more conversation to be had there after all that, imo. If it's not going to be a break-up and make-up contained in one single episode, it needs more attention than that. Three, the inclusion of the PNF crossovers - not that I didn't like those, I did - but, and this is just a more minor nitpick to me, did it feel like to anyone else that the character designs just didn't match up? I mean, in PNF we have characters with triangle heads and other exaggerated body features, and yet in MML.. well, let's just say there's more of a lack of character design diversity that makes the PNF characters look a little out of place to me in comparison next to them. And four, while there are a lot of good humorous moments, there are also the handful of jokes or supposed-to-be-funny moments that just didn't hit for me and some of the bits came off more like they were trying too hard to be funny. Grievances aside, however, I loved the show for what it was - the complexity of the time travel plotline that I very much enjoyed (and my equal confusion at some of its complexities can't be summed up better than with the clip of the Peach Paradox, lol), the overcoming of adversity for Milo and his friends struggling against Murphy's Law every day, even the alien sci-fi plot of season 2 that I also liked (though the time travel/Pistachion takeover from season 1 is still the more interesting storyline to me) and the angsty break-ups that came with it - all made the show a blast to me, and much like the theme song says, I was never bored even for a minute. (And speaking of the theme song - hot take, but MML literally has one of the best, most catchy cartoon theme songs ever that gets stuck in my head at least four out of seven days of the week, if not more.)
Hamster and Gretel I'm going to rate in last place, but that doesn't mean I hated it. I did like it.. but something felt like it was missing to me that I could never quite place. Well, aside from the lack of gay people I guess, but- personal biases (I'm looking at you, MML, you angsty little-). 😅 Anyway. H&G also just didn't have as interesting of characters to me. I liked almost none of the villains Hamster and Gretel were fighting against, and they just weren't as memorable to me. The storylines all just seem to blur together in my head looking back on it because it has hardly wildly different things going on in each episode. It's formulaic like PNF, but without the added spice of impressive contraptions or even without the added spice of absolute mayhem that MML brought to the table - both things that set every episode apart from each other. I think H&G tried that with its villains sometimes, but their efforts just weren't as memorable. It is still fun episodically though with what it's trying to do, but hopefully future episodes will change my perspective on the show as a whole for the better.
i want to start a fight in the dwampyverse community. so i am going to make a purposely divisive poll for the sake of starting arguments . make sure you get really violent about it too
your hot takes must be at least 3 paragraphs in length and very confrontational (if you want to actually write or make something you can tag it with #dwampy deathmatch, i doubt we’ll get another bap miracle but if you’re all entertained enough by this you can give it a try)
you have a week to decide. discuss
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So Doof in Milo Murphy's Law?
In general, I think Doof was as funny as he always was. He's just a disaster of a man with few social skills. He sometimes seems a bit more annoying or inconsiderate than he used to be, though I'm pretty sure the reason for this is Doof in Phineas and Ferb hardly interacts with anyone but Perry, who doesn't talk, mostly in his apartment where his behavior doesn't really bother anyone else. Doof DOES have a full fledged supporting cast so to speak (Vanessa, Norm, Charlene, Roger, OWCA, LOVE MUFFIN), but their interactions often just set up an episode or close out an episode. Not to say he doesn't have storylines where he interacts with other characters, and Norm is around often, but that's not where he spends his time. And those characters he does interact with are usually foiled to him in some notable way. I think the only human characters he interacts with for more than a few lines at a time with are Major Monogram (who is a "good" guy but a bit of an asshole, who has a natural chemistry than , Rodney, who often specifically riles Doof up, and Vanessa whose issues with her dad is central to many of her stories and has a lot of patience for him. And the kids on occasion, where I think we see many of the same problems of his Milo Murphy's Law presence. Where he's basically the kids peer and is often called out for his ridiculousness, and irritates a lot of people. There are characters Doof bounces off wonderfully and characters he just doesn't. Orton Mahson, yes. Sara, Not so much.
It's just that in MML, he's regularly interacting with people so his inability to function is affecting people beyond his immediate family. It's a bit less funny when he's actually interacting with people who don't deserve the problems he's causing. Or who aren't on some level, obligated to deal with it. His behavior is just constant Agent Doof/At2D behavior, but its now directed at characters who shouldn't have to put up with his nonsense. And it's also a little bit Doof is in a context different than the one we saw him than during PnF. He's not as certain about who he is. He's lacking a solid goal. Despite sounding like I'm complaining, I don't really mind all that so to speak. I mean, he was pretty good in the Phineas and Ferb effect in my opinion precisely because he had Orton Mahlson and Cavendish to bounce off of. Doof's still funny, he's still got heart. But I think it just makes the actual problem worse.
Which is that it split S2's focus. S1 heavily focused on Milo and friends, with the pistachio stuff mostly going on in the background until it became actually important. 2 plot lines (not unlike PnF). But Season 2 added a third arc in addition to the Alien arc that replaced the time travel arc, Doof's professor time arc. And while it paralleled Cavendish and Dakota's, it still took up time. I didn't really dislike any of it per se. But it was taking significant time away from Milo, and to a certain extent the dynamics we could have between Milo characters. I don't necessarily have a problem with the episodes, its just between Milo and Gang, Cavendish's escapades, Doof was just too much. We know (due to all the failed backdoor pilots in PnF S4), that they wanted to continue Doof's story. Between Doof 101 and the OWCA Files, they were clearly been thinking about a Doof who is figuring out how to be good for a while. And Doof, DID have room to grow. I do completely agree with giving Doof an arc. But ultimately Doof is a character who is far more funny when he's diluted by other shenanigans, or has good people to bounce off, and Milo's less erratic formula didn't dilute him too much. What I mean by that is we didn't have B (and C) plots the way we did in Phineas. I LOVE Doof, let me make that clear, he was always a delight, but I think I speak for most of us when I say I didn't love Doof enough to give up limited Milo time for him.
Phineas and Ferb had like 65 episodes in its first two seasons alone while Milo Murphy's Law had 40 episodes total. And Doof was a main character in at least 8 segments. Which may not sound like a lot, but half of those episodes didn't feature Milo. He also featured as a major character in several others. And unlike PnF where most segments were shared with the Flynn-Fletcher's escapades, when Doof gets a segment, he's often its sole focus. I genuinely think cutting down a few of the more repetitive Doof episodes or giving them Milo centric B-plots could have done a world of good. That said, I just don't care that much about Doof's middle aged drama compared to the kids shenanigans.
So ultimately I have extremely mixed feelings on it. I do love Doof. Him being professor time and Cavendish's hero, Cavenpuss, his role in helping the kids with the aliens. All great. But I admit. I don't watch the episodes featuring him nearly as much as I do the ones that are just about him and Perry's drama. I think it was something Dan and Swampy cared about. And I respect that. I get it. I could never hate it. But Milo and his friends are great characters who easily can carry half a show, and their extended cast are incredibly engaging. Between the rest of the Murphy family and the rest of the middle school there was plenty of story opportunities. Not to mention Melissa and Zack's families (we never meet Zack's younger siblings, despite their existence being confirmed). I think we all wanted to see something new.
I think none of the episodes featuring Doof were particularly bad but they all together did felt a bit repetitive when the unexplored potential of Milo was right there. I enjoyed Doof's presence in pretty much any episode where Milo and his friends also played a role, because his presence felt beneficial to the story. I liked Doof in the finale for example. But I also can't help but feel that I would have rather had characters like Amanda and Sara in it, characters who were a lot more relevant to Milo, even if Doof was a delight. But when Milo dipped out of an episode to focus on Doof that was a huge problem.
And usually I love episodes which let's us explore new dynamics. And let's make it clear, I like Adventure Buddies. But did we really need it. Maybe if Milo got another season. Because that seems like the exact kind of episode that would have come out of season 3 or 4 of Phineas and Ferb, when they had already worked through a lot of the more expected combinations and started experimenting with weirder stuff. That's when we started getting, all the AU versions of the gang, the episodes that shuffled up the cast and status quo in more unusual ways, and while those are some of my favorite episodes, I feel they only worked because of how much we already had.
There are definitely a few episodes I would cut, or at least would have demoted to B plots of some other episode. But ultimately, Doof's journey was clearly a story they so desperately wanted to tell, and he is, for the most part, a delight. I can't imagine cutting him out of Milo Season 2 altogether. It's such an important piece of Doof lore that I would hate to lose. But I mourn the loss of Milo (and Cavendish and Dakota) episodes even more. I really do have mixed feelings about it. And I can only hope that Milo & co make their way into the new PnF seasons.
#this is my opinion#a lot of this is VERY subjective#but at the very least#I don't think Doof was particularly ooc in Milo#we just had 0/minimal context for Doof in this kind of situation#and I think Milo Doof is very important when considering Doof#Milo Murphy's Law#mml#heinz doofenshmirtz#I genuinely think a lot of it could have been solved if Milo had more episodes in its first two seasons#So we had more time for weird side character episodes#But we didn't
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Alright it's almost Hispanic Heritage month again yall. Here's a list of Animated characters that I, a Latina, cried over when I found out they were Latin American
For clarification, "Found out" means, having no previous knowledge of said characters and within the context of the show/movie they are confirmed Latin American.
(From the perspective of a Costa Rican 🇨🇷 specifically)
The entire Madgrial Family (Encanto)
The moment I saw the teaser trailer for Encanto I started crying. I was so BEYOND EXCITED to see real, true, positive beautiful Latin American representation in a Disney movie. I'm not even Colombian but seeing something like this become so popular made me so happy. Being able to fully understand "Dos Orugitas" in Spanish just hits so different, its not the same in English. It's such a beautiful step for Latin American representation, and I'm so excited to see what comes next for us. (Still holding out for my Latina Disney princess tho. And no, Elena doesn't count) I've also been told I look just like Mirabel and seeing a character that looks like me in a Disney movie just made my heart soar.
Luz Noceda (The Owl House)
Bruh a bisexual Latina with mommy issues AND she's bilingual??? She's just like me fr.
Lance McClain (V*ltron Legendary Defender)
He was my absolute favorite character in V*ltron and I will NEVER forgive them for ruining his arc and making him sad forever. He deserved a happy ending. He's NOT "just a boy from Cuba", he's so important and lovely.
Miles Morales (Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse)
I'm not a comic book reader, so Into the Spiderverse was the first time I met Miles. Finding out he was Afro Latino made me heart soar. He's a sweet boy, such a good character in the movie, and definitely deserved the Oscar. Can't wait for the sequel.
Claire Nuñez (Tales of Arcadia)
Claire is literally such a badass. She's amazing, an amazing character, her story with Jim is beautiful. Love it when she's speaks Spanish. 10/10 character (Watch Tales of Arcadia it's really good)
Fenton Crackshell-Cabrera (Ducktales 2017)
King of my heart. Wholesome dork. Voiced by Lin Manuel Miranda.
Gosalyn Mallard (Ducktales 2017)
What I literal icon. I really really REALLY hope that the rumored Darkwing Duck reboot uses the DT 2017 versions of the DW characters cause this Gosalyn is a QUEEN
Hector Nieves Aka: Hi-Five (Glitch Techs)
Glitch techs was such a cute show it deserved to keep running. Screw Nickelodeon for canceling it just as it was starting to get interesting. Anyway this dork is adorable. Bilingual gamer king.
Troy Sandoval (Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts)
Hi this cutie patootie is a literal king. He and Benson are so cute together. (GO WATCH KIPO AND THE AGE OF WONDERBEASTS ON NETFLIX I PROMISE YOU'LL LOVE IT)
Honorable Mentions:
(From top to bottom, left to right. Tumblr only allows 10 images at a time so I had to combine them)
• Señor Hueso and Capitan Piel, who together make the icon Don Suave (Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2018):
I literally laugh my ass off whenever I watch the episode "Hidden City Job" and they do the whole Don Suave bit. Like it's so over the top yet accurate to telenovela characters that I can't help but laugh every time. When they first introduced Capitan Piel, I instantly laughed so hard before they even translated it because they did the whole Skin and Bones bit and I just thought it was so clever. 10/10 duo I'd love to see more of them. (GO WATCH ROTTMNT PLEASE THEY NEED ALL THE SUPPORT THEY CAN GET IF THEY WANT A SEASON 3)
• Vaggie (Hazbin Hotel)
People were giving Vivziepop shit accusing her of making Vaggie the "angry Latina stereotype) and I couldn't disagree more. Vaggie is perfectly fine as a character, and I can't wait to see what they do with her in the official Hazbin Hotel series!!
• Isabella Garcia-Shapiro (Phineas and Ferb)
Phineas and Ferb was the first fandoms I was ever in, and Isabella holds such a special place in my heart. Love her to pieces
• Marco Diaz (Star vs. The Forces of Evil)
Svtfoe was also one of the first fandoms I was in, so seeing one of the leads be portrayed as Mexican made 12 year old me so happy.
• Miguel Rivera (Coco)
Coco is such a beautiful movie, and I ONLY watch it in Spanish. Miguel is such a sweet and special boy, he really brought the joy of music back into his family.
• Soos (Jesus) Alzamirano Ramirez
Gravity Falls was ALSO one of the first fandoms I was in (PnF, GF, and Svtfoe were my main 3 for a time), and finding out this loveable goof was Latino made me really happy
• Princess Elena Castillo Flores
Now she may not be an official Disney princess (she doesn't meet all the requirements to be part of the franchise) but that doesn't mean she isn't excellent representation for young children. Although the show doesn't represent one specific Latin American country/culture, the show does have bits and pieces of many different LatAm cultures, and even some indigenous inspiration here and there with all the mythology aspects. It isn't perfect, but I do still appreciate Elena's presence in Disney.
Happy Hispanic Heritage Month everyone!!!
#Encanto#la familia madrigal#luz noceda#the owl house#Lance McClain#voltron#miles morales#into the spiderverse#claire nunez#tales of acadia#fenton crackshell cabrera#ducktales 2017#gosalyn Mallard#ducktales gosalyn#darkwing duck#glitch techs high five#glitch techs#troy sandoval#kipo and the age of wonderbeasts benson#rise of the teenage mutant ninja tutles#rottmnt señor hueso#rottmnt capitan piel#hazbin hotel vaggie#isabella garcia shapiro#marco diaz#miguel rivera#gravity Falls soos#elena of avalor#hispanic heritage month#animation
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I’ve seen a lot of people claim that Ron was “underserving” of Kim or that “he wasn’t good enough for her”.
And lately I’ve seen a lot of negative comments directed to it’s character for example the wiki is very negatively biased towards his character and of his relationship with Kim.
Not so long ago there was this fake Kim possible AMA made on Reddit where a person impresionantes Bob-Schooley and under this they spoke very ill of Ron’s character saying that he and Kim had no chemistry, that he was a very bad and one-dimensional character and that he and Kim’s relationship wasn’t “pleasant”.
All of this while they kept on praising Kigo and what saddens me the most is that because this person was faking being the co-creator of the show many people believe them and some people even began backing him up saying stuff like that they never liked Ron or the fact that he ended up with Kim.
And it seems like compared to other “friends to lovers” ships (Danny x Sam, Marinette x Adrien, Star x Marco, Keith x Lance)
I feel like from all of them KimRon is one of the most underrated. I don’t see many people making art or stories about them.
It also seems there were many people who thought Ron was undeserving of Kim? Or they she “could have done better” Do you think this is true? Why do you think people say that? Or have this reaction?
Kim was undeserving of Ron, if anything. No, no, I’m kidding, I’m kidding. I kinda had to. This entire issue is just kinda silly. Also, it took me a long time to answer this one because I don’t like spreading negativity. I’m sorry if the reply below comes off as angry or upset - I swear I’m not. I’m just being down to earth. And tired.
If the creators disliked Ron, they wouldn’t plan Kim x Ron from the beginning, and they wouldn’t focus so much on Ron’s character throughout the entire series. You know how Phineas and Ferb is named after Phineas and Ferb, but Candace and Doofenshmirtz are actually main characters with actual arcs and character development? Ron kinda falls into that category, too. Of course I still think Kim is a fully realized character in her own right, but Ron isn’t just a supporting character, he is a main character too, because we spend just as much time with him as we do with Kim, and there’s a lot of focus put on him and his character development.
Because of that, Ron is probably the most developed and interesting character in the entire series, and stating otherwise isn’t even a bad take - it’s just wrong.
Also, let’s get something important out of the way - I am Shego’s age. If you told me to choose between the mad scientist malewife and the minor, I hope it’s not surprising I’d obviously go with the mad scientist malewife, like, this isn’t even a competition. However, some people out there think Shego would choose differently, and frankly, I think it’s quite disgusting and offensive to her character.
(Although it’s okay to headcanon Shego as a lesbian too! Especially if she was your sexual awakening. Trust me, I also started questioning myself because of Shego. Just… don’t ship her with a child, lmao)
Here’s a thing though - if I told people shipping a fourteen-year-old with a woman in her late twenties is bad, and they still wouldn’t have problems shipping it, then there’s not much I can do about it, is there? I won’t go to war over a fictional ship from a twenty-year old show, because I’m an adult with taxes to pay, and internet trolls are just simply beneath me and not worth my time.
Which brings me to another point - I think the reason KimRon seems unpopular in comparison to those other ships you mentioned is simply because it’s old. It’s literally twenty years old, and at this point, I’ve met people who have never even heard about Kim Possible before. (I suppose there’s an argument to make that Danny Phantom is an old show too but the fandom’s still alive, but the truth is - I was there, Gandalf, and Danny Phantom has always been more popular, even back in the 2000s. It’s just how it’s always been. I don’t have a scientific explanation for this one, chief.)
Ship negativity below - skip the strike-through paragraph if you don’t want to read it; Also, I think it’s funny because I dislike all the ships you just mentioned. I already said what I think about Danny and Sam here. I think Sta//r//co had the biggest potential of being like KimRon but they fell into the same trap as Marinette and Adrien AKA taking too long to get anywhere and tripping over problematic shit on their way, which made those ships super unlikable to me, like, even if I shipped them before, I just can’t anymore, because I don’t enjoy them. And Kl//a//nce isn’t even canon. Realistically, there was Potential, but all they got were very vague/lowkey queerbaiting scenes and that’s it. I genuinely feel so sorry for people who fell for it. But yeah, KimRom is just soo much better than all of those, it’s not even a competition.
Maybe it’s my demi ass talking, but I really love how KimRon started with them being just childhood friends, and then having the most natural friends to lovers development ever. It wasn’t in your face, there wasn’t that much drama around it, it was pretty much perfect. And people are still allowed to dislike it. But I don’t.
I think people who hate Ron are simply bitter their “lesbian” ship ain’t canon, so they feel the need to shit on this clearly amazing, enby-coded character for “getting in the way”, but I gotta be real with y’all - you won’t find good WLW content in this 2000s cartoon made by male boomers. …What you're looking for is in the Owl House, made by openly bisexual Dana Terrace. It’s there, and it’s canon, I promise. Go watch it. It’s good.
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I think my favourite use of 'all just a dream' is 'Phineas and Ferb Get Busted', because it was a great way to have our cake and eat it as viewers. A lot of us wanted vindication for Candace, and to see how the mom would react, but we also didn't want the show to end or completely change because Phineas and Ferb got in trouble and were given stricter supervision.
We also get to see what some potential character development would look like for Candance (realising that 'busting' her brothers would have consequences she might not like and that her brothers' creativity is actually pretty cool) without taking away the Candace we have, who has an important role in the standard plot. Not only is the storyline where the boys get caught fake, but Candace didn't even dream it herself - it was a dream within Perry's dream - so the fact that she didn't learn from it makes sense.
I want to make a stand for dream plots.
Sure, I get that the rug-pull of "none of that mattered" can feel bad, but THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE!!!!
A dream can be a look into a character's psyche, and that can build those characters in a way that is somewhat unique to dream plots!
Tell me that the Superman Birthday episode from the Justice League cartoon is bad. Or that Any dream plot in Buffy or Angel are bad, or that they at least could have been done better another way. I do not think that you could genuinely argue those points, and people are conflating their feelings on "It was just a dream" theories/headcannons with the actual stories that engage with those plots wholeheartedly.
Even if it is just silly indulgences like the coma seasons of Archer, they are still a lot of fun. I just think the over-serialization of media has poisoned peoples ability to enjoy stories that are just willing to fuck around with characters for a bit.
That's a pretty good point! While dreams that are originally presented as Actual Plot Stuff That Is Happening and are then revealed to be dreams when the creator realizes that they don't actually want to follow through on any of those plot developments are lazy, and the reveal at the end of some stories that "it was all a dream" can be frustrating because it retroactively makes the entire plot insignificant, as the submitter said in their propaganda, if the creator is aware that it is a dream and of the implications of the character dreaming about whatever it was, it can be really interesting (like a dream being used to show a character's unprocessed trauma, or their deep fears, or their greatest desires). And a more surreal, trippy plotline that is revealed to be a dream can also be fun, because that's simply how dreams are, and the audience has already been tipped off to the fact that it might not be entirely real. Just goes to show that almost any trope can be used well or badly depending on the creator -- it's just a matter of which ones are used badly more often.
Your propaganda (anti-propaganda? Anti-anti-propaganda?) has been noted.
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Family, Adventure, and Gold
If you thought I’d stay silent this day, you were wrong, but you also were almost right.
Why? Well, I’ve been trying to write since early morning a special message for the anniversary of the last episode of Ducktales (2017), called “The Last Adventure”, but every time I started to write, something felt weird. I didn’t know what was happening, it’s like I couldn’t find the words to properly write what this show means to me, I couldn’t find a way to express all the emotions and passions these ducks woke up in me, and honestly, I still can’t understand why my passion for them hadn’t changed at all, even a year after the last episode.
I didn’t know how to start, so I decided to watch that episode again today. I’ve watched all the episodes 5 times already, but every time I watch every episode again, I always find something new, something that makes me love that adventurous family even more, and after those amazing credits of almost every character falling out from the plane into the blue sky, I understood that my message for this Last Adventurversary are three simple, but at the same time, strong words:
Family, Adventure, and Gold.
I’m someone who believes in the power and meaning of the words we say. That’s why I’d like to explain why each one of these words means a lot to me.
Family:
In real life I’m shy, usually a lonely person or the silent one of the group, not because of any personal reason, but mostly because I discovered I’m confortable being more open with people who also loves what I love. I’ve joined the DT17 fandom on September of 2019, and through all this time, I’ve met a lot of people, some of them are writers, some are artist, and some of them are like me, enthusiasts of everything related of the show. Some live in different countries, other even live in different continents, but what we have in common is the love we have for this show, and this common love made a lot of us the family we didn't know we needed. This show is about family, not just blood-related family, but found family.
Adventure:
“Ducktales” without aventures are just “Ducks”, and without ducks, are just “Tales”. The essence and engine who moved this ducks to be so fun, relatable and iconic are their adventures. Thanks to Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Webby’s shenanigans, the constantly unintended accidents of Donald, or the umbreakable desire to solve a mystery and rewrite history from Scrooge, I realized that adventures are not only intended for historical figures or “the chosen ones”, because, everyone is the protagonist of their own story, you can find or make your own adventures in your life, you don’t have to stay in your common routine, you can do something new everyday, discover new places, research what insterests you, make new friends and allies in the way, and the most important thing, keep learning more and more about this world of untold history and undiscovered places.
Gold:
This one is important. I’m not talking about the gold that Scrooge keeps inside his Money Bin, but the the fact that this show was, “gold” in many aspects. In my case, I’ve seen other current and previous TV shows, like Gravity Falls, Amphibia, The Owl House, Phineas & Ferb, Star, Hilda, Big City Greens, etc etc, and those are good, precious gems with many things that makes each of them special, but Ducktales is different, it has this background history that comes from the legendary Donald Duck, the uncountable comics from him with Scrooge and the triplets, and the iconical childhood show Ducktales (1987) which was the main inspiration to this reboot. All these modern shows may be awesome and popular now, but the history, importance and legacy of more than 87 years (since The Wise Little Hen, 1934) isn’t something that any show of this century could make so easily, specially when Disney prefers to stop any solid project if it doesn’t mean money to the company.
I don’t want to get controversial here, and I’m sorry if I do, but it has to be said: Disney gave Matt and Frank the chance to tell their story in three seasons, which is great, but if Disney had not been interested only in money and rather in the quality of its current programs, right now DT17 should have more than 4 seasons, spin offs, a huge diversity of toys, park attractions, and even movies, but they prefer to prioritize sells ($) and popularity over quality and potential, and Ducktales has A LOT of these last two.
This amazing Ducktales crew created a real complete duck universe, with multiple amazing characters who had the essence of the past perfectly adapted to the modernity of the present, with opportunities to include all the shows from the Disney Afternoon, with epic stories that could face other “multiversal” shows such as the MCU, with a proper construction and interesting growth planned for each character, and with excellent animation that depicted perfectly the lessons in each episode and all the emotional moments. As I said, Ducktales is pure gold, and it’s sad that the company who was supposed to support it more only sees gold in money rather than in the shows itself.
Ducktales means so much to me, and every time I see some new fanart, fanfic, fan project or anything related to them, I’m always happy to reblog it here in this fan blog, and I’m happy to do it daily even a year after the TV series ended. I’m always happy to see a new creator of content or a new follower, and I deeply appreciate all your likes, comments and reblogs with my heart, because those always remember me that I’m not alone with this love of the ducks. During these last months I’ve also seen many artists, writers, friends and enthusiasts move to other shows or interests (and with some of them it has hurt me a lot to see them leave), but I’m happy they have something new that makes them happy. It’s awesome to see that many of them started their journey or were inspired to do what they like thanks to this show, and it also makes me happy every time a new Ducktales fan or content creator appears, giving the fandom more amazing enthusiasm and content to let this fandom stay alive.
This is my message for this anniversary of “The Last Adventure”, it may be the last adventure of the canon, but the fandom always shows me that adventures are endless, because family is the greatest adventure of all.
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can i have some 7murders infodump ty
ALRIGHT, IT GOES DEATH - NAME - RACE - DISCRIPTION FOR EACH OF THEM
1. You are my dad, you're my dad! Boogie, woogie, woogie! - Elijah - Mexican - My little trauma boi. He passes out at the sight of blood and has an abusive father. He's very sarcastic and makes dark jokes a lot. He loves his friends though!
2. Don't lose your head! - Nadia - Indian - Mom friend. Very empathetic and can tell what's wrong with people, but a little bit scatterbrained. Forgets simple things easily. Tries really hard to not forget things and remembers everyone's birthday.
3. I'm in the ghetto ratatata - Larke - American with Swedish heritage - BAMF. She takes self-defense classes because she's always paranoid something is gonna happen, but she's almost always right about it, so we can't really blame her. My most fleshed our character so far because I based her off of myself. Also kinda has a crush on Derek but shhhh don't tell him that. It'll get to his head. :)
4. Their so dull cmon rip em to shreds/ if your leg got cut off, would it hurt? - Derek - Pacific Islander - Friendly jock. That's the best way I can think to describe him. He's my favorite of these little shits who live in my head rent free, even though Larke is based off of me. He used to play basketball and is very flirtatious and charismatic. He loses all his social skills when it comes to Larke though. He has fallen hard, but doesn't know it yet.
5. No more eyes 😱 - Elsie - Korean - She's a bastard /pos. She that one bitch in the group that acts mean but actually loves her friends and would die for them. Calls her friends bitch(affectionate) and everyone else slut (derogatory). James is her twin brother and she loves him.
6. If I took an ax and split your head in half I would have two perfect halves - that's very important - James - Korean - He's that one quiet kid in every class who just sits in the back to make a five star meal when the teacher says no food. Also think Ferb from Phineas and Ferb. He doesn't say much, but it's important when he does speak.
7. Victoria - Brazilian - Bestie is built to be the final girl. She's smart and worries about her friends, but not to quite the extent that Nadia does. She and Larke were best friends before the group formed and they both welcomed Elijah when they met him.
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#seven murders elijah#seven murders nadia#seven murders larke#seven murders derek#seven murders elsie#seven murders james#seven murders victoria#please ask me about them i love them
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