#ace exclu

[d-parade]

Bro leave Alastor be 😭

It’s impossible to explain to people how even if the “asexuals can desire sex” statement is true, normalising it is harmful to asexuals WHO DON’T DESIRE IT.

Plus, Alastor is one of the rare and only few asexual characters in media. We finally have representation YET people just have to sexualise him because they’re horny bastards, using the above statement as an excuse.

It’s frustrating. Is it so hard to want a character that just doesn’t deal with sex in any way shape or form? Sure like majority of characters are like that already, but it’s because attraction usually isn’t relevant to the story, but they feel it.

Anyways Alastor, Sir Pentious and the songs are really the only reason why I’m watching Hazmid Hotel.

[gray-ace-space]

a lot of the asks coming into this blog are in the tone of, "is this allowed?"

"am i allowed to call myself X, even though Y?" "am i allowed to be here?" "am i allowed to feel this way?" guys i am not a cop. you don't need to ask permission.

this is not meant negatively! i understand that sometimes you just feel doubt and like you don't belong or you're alone, and need someone to affirm you, and i am so honored and happy to be that someone.

but just to be safe i made you this permit. free to use without credit. you're welcome.

[pansexual-pied-piper]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, being an aspec exclusionist requires you to not listen to your fellow queers. The people most qualified to judge whether being aspec is comparable to being any other flavour of queer are those who are both, and we've been very clear about our aspec orientations being just as queer as the rest of our identity. I've been talking about it for years and I'm nowhere close to being a "community elder". There are plenty of people who have been speaking on this topic for far longer than I have even been aromantic.

To ignore us when we speak about our own lived experience requires the sheer arrogance to say "No, I think I know better what being aspec must really be like than any of you, despite not being aspec myself". It requires an unwavering belief that we are all either wrong about our own experiences or lying.

In short, it requires one to be an absolute fucking clown.

[annabelle--cane]

not saying that people who got out of hate groups are, like, cursed to have evil corrupted souls forever, but if that's you then maybe you Shouldn't to be the one to try and make "balanced" takes about problems within the group/community you used to be in a hate movement against

[gravyhoney]

Scared of the sudden spike in aphobia on this site again. I’m not going to talk about it because uuugggghhhhhhh but I will state.

This blog is not friendly towards ace/arophobes. I am very openly ace and grey-aro, this has never been a space for exclusionists.

[sothisistheweightofcreation]

on a related note, whats the point of ace/mspec/mogai/polyam exclusionism, politically? like whats the end goal? how will it materially benefit the queer people you're supportive of?

ive seen exclusionists say they don't bring their beliefs up when organising irl, because it would distract from the actual political work they're doing. and at that point I'm like, well. it they're irrelevant or even counter-productive, why continue to hold these beliefs? what do they do for the people around you?

[anarcho-catboyism]

What got people kicked out of GSA's / Queer Events:

-Gatekeeping and denying people's identities and labels

What got people invited to GSA's / Queer Events:

-Being accepting of everyone's identity and labels

-Having a complicated or nuanced identity and label

[purple-mothman-majesty]

[duskittycat]

"bihets" aka "any bisexual person (but almost invariably a bi woman) who has ever dated someone of another gender, ever"

[foxfairy06]

why do you think aspecs aren’t lgbtq+ have you read any gay history or do you just think we don’t exist because we do man and you also said “no kink at pride” but then we don’t exist

For one this isn't even a coherent argument. It's accusative, leading, and poorly structured and thus difficult to read, but I'll try my best.

So, i never said they aren't lgbtq+, i think the q+ is bullshit. It ends with T. The thing that holds us all together is the same type of issue. Issues relating to our gender, and what specific struggles that come about from it. Two experiences in particular. Same gender attraction, and gender dysphoria. Asexuals experience none of this.

They also have no meaningful association with our history, you'll see they were invited to pride, not made part of the subject matter or hosted as a main voice of the community at any point in integral pre-internet lgbt history (it's not just gay). The fact you insinuate such without providing any source as to how they are a part of LGBT history specifically doesn't help either. If you make a claim about history you should reference a specific thing that happened at that key event, or provide a source.

I never said you don't exist, in fact in several posts that asexuals and aromantic people do exist, have, a unique experience, are orientations, and are not a choice. However just because something is valid doesn't mean it is LGBT. Yes you exist, congratulations. However, your particular issues are not what the focus of the LGBT community is. Unless you have a separate romantic or sexual orientation that is towards the same gender or you have gender dysphoria. I'm sorry but heteroromantic cisgender asexuals just aren't LGBT.

No kink at pride has nothing to do with the asexuals argument, that's a red herring. Even then, these arguments are not mutually exclusive, and have separate reasons for them. I don't exclude kink from pride because i oppose sex and put everything non-sexual on a pedestal. Personally I'm a big fan of sexual environments. However that is not an environment literal children trying to express their identity need.

Also again, not at one point did i say you don't exist.

Hope that helps!

[transmascsunburst]

i log onto Rainbow dash bi or lesbian tiktok discourse

I write, 'i think shes a he/she bi lesboy!!!' they all immediately stop their inane discourse to scalp me for being correct. i log off tiktok.

[d-parade]

Trochee sounds like a slur

That aside, you know what “trochosexuality” is? Being allosexual.

Hope that clears things up

[gray-ace-space]

aphobes seriously need to get new material. it's been the same shit for the past two decades and honestly i'm pretty bored

[transfiguredreams]

I love xenogenderz

I love Neopronounz

I love microlabelz

I love the Arospec

I love the aspec

I love the aplspec

I love objectum folkz

I love ficto folkz

[ramenheim]

Fkn hate baby twitter lesbians what the fuck got put in their water that so many of them are terfs OOPS I mean radfems OOPS I mean exclus. 🙄😷

The recurrent vein of "Fuck Ace/Bi/Pan ppl it's THEIR FAULT *I* mislabelled myself as anything but LESBIAN" as if you aren't allowed to change labels & they're some sort of IMMUTABLE ASPECT OF YOUR BIRTH & not things you can change your mind on post-puberty, post-messy breakup, post-being in a dangerous situation, etc.

[scorittanius]

None of u people are normal about trans people of *any* type are you