#We Are the Children of Our Parents
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A lot of people like to act like Calvin is just this unstoppable force of Chaos and Philosophy, when really great care is taken to let you in on the fact that Calvin very much IS the child of his parents.
Calvin gets a lot of his verbosity and views on life from his father, but heâs six, so itâs all filtered through a view of a childâs thoughts on instant gratification.
Calvinâs mom is less concrete, but we do get glimpses of Calvinâs gift for sarcasm, and if his grandmother is to be believed, his mother was just as much of a rambunctious chaotic kid as he was.
Thatâs not even getting into her penchant for tricking Calvin into doing exactly what she wants (a trait she shares with his father) From pretending a plate of rice is maggots to just *letting* Calvin smoke so he can learn a lesson about not doing it, she really passed on a lot of traits to her son.
So yeah, Calvin isnât some devilish child who cursed his parents. His parents were just immensely chaotic individuals in their youth who calmed down and began to temper those tendencies later in life. Possibly to the point of forgetting what itâs like to be a kid, but those traits are still there, just hidden under a lot of layers of life and needing to be mature to raise a kid.
I meant to post all of these, but they didnât go up for some reasonâŚ
#Calvin and Hobbes#Calvin#Hobbes#Calvin's Mom#Calvin's Dad#We Are the Children of Our Parents#Parents#Parenthood#Shut Up Dooms
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The idea that uni protesters are "elitist ivy-league rich kids larping as revolutionaries" on Twitter and Reddit and even here is so fucking funny to me if you actually know anything about the student bodies at these unis. Take it from someone who's going to one of the biggest private unis in the US, 80% of the peers I know are either from the suburbs or an apartment somewhere in America, children of immigrants, or here on a student visa. I've heard about one-percenter students, but I've never met one in person. Like, don't get me wrong, the institution as a whole is still very privileged and white. I've talked with friends and classmates about feeling weird or dissonant being here and coming from such a different background. But in my art program, I see BIPOC, disabled, queer, lower-income students and faculty trying to deconstruct and tear that down and make space every day. So to take a cursory glance at a crowd of student protesters in coalitions that are led by BIPOC & 1st/2nd-gen immigrant students and HQ'd in ethnic housings and student organizations and say, "ah. children of the elite." Get real.
#also idk how to tell you this but even if it were true. wealthy children potentially sacrificing their educational careers to protest is#a good thing actually. idk how to tell you that caring about people from other nations is good#personal#âthis war has nothing to do with most students cuz nobody's getting draftedâ idk how to explain to you that we should be angry#that our tuitions of 10s of thousands of dollars that we pay every year for an education is being used to fund a genocidal campaign#also the implication that if you go to a uni institution you are automatically privileged by participation no matter your bg#i didn't /want/ to go to this school. i was supposed to go to a school with an art/animation program. but i realized my immigrant#parents have been working their whole lives to get me here. and turning the opportunity down would be a disservice to their sacrifice#this is getting into convos of âwhat 2nd gen kids owe their parentsâ which is different for everyone but. yeah#i just get pissed off at seeing people misrepresenting student bodies as âwealthyâ and âprivilegedâ and âeliteâ when it's such a blatant li#i remember a year ago a friend told me they can't fly home to hong kong for winter break because the plane tickets are too expensive#so they have to find temporary housing around the area#last quarter for a film doc class my film partner made a doc on a small group of marxist grad students from india discussing praxis#during a rally a few months ago in response to police presence the coalition invited palestinian students to speak about their experiences#and lead songs and read poems they wrote. these are STUDENTS. are they elitist too?#this is not to disregard my own personal privilege either.#this whole narrative's just to rationalize a lack of empathy to me. seeing a 19yo student get shot by a rubber bullet and your first#reaction is âHAW! HAW! bet richy rich didn't see THAT coming when she put on her terrorist hood!â#newsflash. these big uni campuses are HAUNTED by the violence of past protests and revolutions and police brutality. we know.#why do you think these coalitions have been making reinforced barricades at record speed
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Toga: Someone who wanted to be happy
Uraraka: Someone who wanted to make others happy
And also,
Toga: Someone who wanted the world to be easier to live in
Uraraka: Someone who wanted to make the world easier to live in for others
#went back to their fight for 2 chapters and thought of this#toga wants to be able to smile and love as she does#toga wants a world thats easy to live in#uraraka wants to make the world easier to live in for others (her parents)#(and others [ex. midoriya ua speech; random fallen woman in moddle school; tsuyu when first moving to the dorms; etc]#spoilers#bnha#boku no hero academia#my hero academia#mha#bnha spoilers#mha spoilers#toga himiko#ochaco uraraka#tgck#himiko toga#URARAKA CALLS HER HIMIKO (HER FIRST NAME)#even though theyre enemies they were on a first-name basis in their last fight#uraraka wanted to let others live easy lives since she was children#she saw how tired her parents were. toga was tired too. but she hid it since it wasnt just physical fatigue#i feel like theyre just forcing deku ochaco ship down our throats#just the occasional random reminder [I love Deku] [We don't want to expose that secret] in the middle of these two girls fighting#like- dont forget about midoriya! hes the REAL one here!#come on. whyyy#*since she was a child (i said it wrong earlier)
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Prompt 117
Bruce does not enjoy magic. In fact heâs absolutely horrible at it, to the point itâs better that he avoids it in general. Getting thrown into some sort of summoning circle bullshit was not helping him feel any better about it either.Â
At least he isnât dead⌠probably. He might be surrounded by green and there might be a massive entity sitting on a throne, but he isnât dead yet. Even if the cult had been rambling about sacrificing âthe dark knight to the dark kingâ.Â
⌠His kids are definitely going to kill him, but there are small children peeking out at him from within the beingâs cape. Who seem happy enough, while the⌠king looks exhausted in a familiar way. Well. Maybe itâs his own parental exhaustion talking, but they canât be too bad if their kids are happy to be there.Â
#dcxdp#dpxdc#prompts#Pariah feeling someone sacrificing a human: Oh thank fuck some goddamn help-#Bruce is now Pariahâs & Clockworkâs buddy who babysits the lil godlings sometimes#They all get together sometimes to complain about their PTA rivals#Pariah is relieved for help in how to human for the half-human childrenâs sake#He takes up gardening to help with his control issues since he can make his gardens look however he like and obsess over making sure everyt#Clockwork and Alfred become tea and gossip buddies#Pariah: How will we get our half human children's human side taken care of#Why yes Bruce's kids did make fun of him when he came back with a couple of kids#They don't belive him at first when he explains he's just babysitting#Until the parents come to pick said children up#pariah dark x clockwork
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He's just his father's son
#castlevania#dracula#alucard#vlad tepes#adrian tepes#tepes family#All âwe are children of our parents#castlevania netflix#fanart#konami#dijital art#my artwork#mr shimurka
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When you grow up with only abusers around you, it can be hard to find an environment in which you can learn morals, basic values and integrity that most children have access to, if they're surrounded with healthy, just, moral adults. Even as children, we often understand viscerally that we don't want to be like our parents, even if we think they love us or whatever, we firmly see that something is wrong, this person is doing damage, we don't want to turn out like this.
Our experiences in school (if we attend it) can give us a little insight into how a person is expected to behave in an everyday setting, but it is still an environment of constantly being controlled, having to do as we're told, only getting to socialize in little breaks and often struggling to socialize because you have not been offered a proper socialization. At young age you can only mimic what you saw in others, and for you this can mean extreme behaviour, erratic behaviour, isolation, complete apathy, switching from one extreme to the other. It can make you blacklisted in your group of peers, because nobody can understand you or predict your behaviour; you can get called a freak. Your new environment can label you problematic and make you feel like you don't belong there, either. And you don't even know what you've done wrong.
In times like this, we often turn to media to learn what's normal, what ethics we should follow, what values we should integrate in our lives, and this is something that can't cut us out, or call us 'not good enough'. It's a little refuge where we get the chance to learn without being punished for screwing up, or even anyone knowing you screwed up, because you're learning by observing characters who don't observe you.
I remember as a child vividly feeling enlightened, and almost consumed by media that promoted messages of friendship, found family, people sticking together, caring about each other, saving each other. Not only it felt incredibly real, but the morals and messages they promoted, got engraved deep into my heart. I wanted nothing else but to live a life like that, if only I found the right people, or found myself in the right situation. It felt profound, important, life-saving.
When people you're surrounded with are manipulative, self-serving, guilt and shame inflicting and utterly cruel individuals, the depth and emotion you get from media feels powerful. The fact that you can feel and yearn for something that is more pure than you have in your surroundings, that you can reach for higher and deeper and more honest human experience, it can set you apart from the abusers you're surrounded with. It can feel more real than reality, more right and true than what you have in your life.
And the thing is, morals and positive messages from children's media, or even other types of media, aren't made to be adapted by people in real life. They're made for this other, fantastical reality and they don't exactly work in the real world. But for us, they're a step that we take in order to wrench ourselves free from the horrifying and bleak picture we have in our everyday reality - nobody caring about anyone, people exploiting every little bit of free will, being told that your life doesn't matter - we need something fantastical and powerful to combat that shit. We need to believe there's something better out there, and we need a chance to learn how to conduct ourselves when the time is right, what values we should have, what behaviours we should learn.
It's not a perfect help, but it is often the only help we get. Sometimes we can end up a little wonky, with our priorities and dreams slightly unrealistic, because of the mix that we've been brought up in. But it isn't for no reason. We have to believe that there's a fantastic heaven for us somewhere, because we're currently in hell, and we need to know that surviving it is worth it. That there's a different reality waiting for us outside. Place where we belong to.
#children's media#growing up in abuse#abusive parents#toxic parents#getting morals and ethics from media#finding hope that there's good in the world trough media#even though the media is unrealistic and made for entertainment#we need it to survive#and its still likely having better morals and messages than our real lives#appreciation for good chidlrens media#abused kids#abused child
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Jasmine: (Does a ghostly call around a campfire) âÂĄAyyyy miiiissss hijooooos! ÂżDĂłnde estĂĄn mis hijoooooosss?â
MacCready: (Puts his hands over his ears) âStOoOoOoOp!â
Jasmine: (Has her hands out in front of her as she moves around) âÂĄQuiero mis hijooooos! ÂżDĂłnde estĂĄn mis hijos?â
Piper: âI have NO idea what youâre saying, kid- but itâs freaking me out!!!â
Danse: (Is as white as a ghost at his spot by the campfire)
X6: (Says nothing while shuffling on his own two feet, hands in his pockets)
MacCready: âCanât you just⌠Tone it down a notch or two?â
Jasmine: (Throws up her hands) âItâs Halloween!!! Itâs suppose to freak you out!!! Thatâs the point!!!â
Piper: âAfter all the spooky scares we pulled on each other during the prank war- we all are a bit tender!!! So give us a break! Now we have to worry about some vengeance filled Mexican lady coming after us!â
Jasmine: (Rolls her eyes) âÂĄCobardes! Yâall are a bunch of sissies! Iâve been hearing this story since I was born and so had most of the kids my age in my neighborhood.â
MacCready: âAnd Iâm pretty sure you kids were living off a gallon of coffee and three hours of sleep all the time!â
Deacon: (Comes out from behind a bush dressed in a white nightgown and a long dark wig) âOoOoOoOoOoOo!!!â (Slowly moves towards the campfire, the smoke machine he set up earlier adding extra dramatic flare)
Jasmine: (Points and gasps) âÂĄLa Llorona!â
MacCready, Danse, and Piper: (Scream bloody murder in sync)
X6: (Stands there stock still as his soul silently leaves his body)
Nick: (Comes running over) âWHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?!?â
Everyone: (Dives behind RoboDad for protection)
Jasmine: (Runs up and puts her arms around his waist, staring up at him innocently) âPapi- La Llorona wants to take me away and drown me! So you hafta protect me!â
Nick: (Heavy sigh as he picks the teen girl up) âNot the vengeance ghost lady again- havenât you told enough of those scary stories?â
Jasmine: (Huffs) âNo- I havenât told everyone about El Cucuy yet.â
Nick: (Glances behind him at the trembling adults) âMaybe hold off the scary stories until after ChristmasâŚâ
Deacon: (Waves his hands around some more) âOoOoOoOoOo!â
#So the version of La Llorona I heard growing up was that she wouldnât take adults. Just children.#Specifically children that werenât listening to their parents and being wild at night.#Especially by the riverside or the lakeside. So as long as we hid behind an adult- we would be safe.#One of my older cousins would tell us this story at night while we were sitting around the fireplace at a river or lake.#And he would hide his speaker in the woods to play her cries to scare us.#But jokes on him because us kids just got ready to go to war with La Llorona. We were ready to square up to the ghost lady.#At night we would look out the windows of whoever house we were at and try to spot her in the distance.#So our Google searches were consisted of âHow to summon La Lloronaâ.#If her cries sounded like they were close- La Llorona was far away. If her cries sounded far away- La Llorona was actually very close.#Anyways- Jasmine likes to tell these stories around campfires. She has the best ghost stories.#Some maaaaay or may not be true.#I mean- ghosts are REAL in Fallout.#The poor companions have to deal with their little sister being a menace all the time with her ghost stories and antics#Deacon tried to do La Lloronaâs cry- but his pronunciation wasnât that good so he just did typical ghost noises.#fallout#fallout 4#fo4#nick valentine#fallout oc#fallout original character#fallout 4 companions#maccready#robert joseph maccready#piper wright#x6 88#fallout x6 88#paladin danse#danse#danse fallout 4
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Batman: Under The Red Hood
I think this is a moment that reminds you that Alfred Pennyworth raised Bruce. Thomas Wayne was Bruce's father for so few years, he was young when they died, he probably doesn't remember much about him. The person that raised him the most was Alfred. So for better of worse Alfred is part of the creation of Batman.
#alfred pennyworth#bruce wayne#batman#comics#dc comics#batcavescolony reads#batcavescolony reads comics#people never really tall about Alfred's part in the creation of Batman and what Bruce grew to be#parents affect how children grow up. Alfred was the closest Bruce had to a father. these panels are showing just how close alfred and bruce#truly are. which makes sense bruce had to have got his mannerism and ideas from somewhere. bruce is stoic and bad at emotions.... why?#Alfred is stoic and we never really see a whole lot of emotions from him. hes a butler they're ment to act a certain way with people.#its interesting#'im obsesed as he is to learn the truth' 'this life if OURS'#like how much of bruce is picked up from Alfred over the years?
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Iwtv s2 ep2 spoilers
My thing I'm wondering is that in the promos/trailers claudia screams that Louis "picked another one over me" but in this episode she's encouraging louis to live outside of her and pursue a romance with Armand. I wonder what's going to change in the next few episodes.
#mini meta in the tags#its an interesting dynamic theyve written#because i cant yet really blame claudia or louis for feeling the way they feel#louis can call claudia his sister all he wants but she'll forever be his baby girl. their relationship cannot change. but what happens when#the daughter feels defined by said relationship?#does having a child mean one cannot ever love again? if not what does claudia mean by choosing another?#do we as children owe our parents anything? and when we become adults do our parents owe us anything? things to ponder#how can i say claudia deserves to live her own life but say louis doesnt#iwtv#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#claudia iwtv#iwtv spoilers#iwtv s2
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i understand the frustration with âi made this gay pairing cis x trans so they can still have biological babiesâ with no thought to other methods and how ppl assume thats the case when it comes to mothpool aus where mothwing is also the mother of the three, but alsoâŚ. idk i kinda dont give a shit if someone wants to do that and i dont really think its inherently transphobic as long as its handled with care and respect.
what really concerns me about this debate is how some people are adamant that you cannot portray trans people having biological children in media or youre being disrespectful. and im gonna say as a nonbinary person who doesnt want children for themself- thats kinda fucking weird? like i understand that for some people, theyre trans themselves and theyre speaking from a place of dysphoria, and i absolutely get that, which is why i think the topic should be handled with nuance and diversity in trans characters, but likeâŚ. guys. pregnant trans men exist irl. trans women get people pregnant irl. trans pplâs ability and right to parent and have biological children are being debated irl. we get denied the opportunity to adopt as well.
in a climate like this, are we SURE we want the stance on rewrites and headcanons in the silly cat books to be âif you portray trans characters having children, especially with a gay couple, youre a transphobic freak no matter what!â does it really matter? especially if its being done by a trans person handling the topic with nuance who has a lot of trans characters with varying perspectives?
obviously yes, remember that thats not the only way certain gay couples can have kids, remember that not every trans person is fully comfortable with it and keep that in mind, remember that surrogacy and adoption are also perfectly valid ways to give fan babies- but remember that there are OPTIONS. not that you need to condemn the idea of transgender parents in the first place unless they fit the very specific criteria of âproper transgender representationâ and anything that dares deviate from that is proof the op is a transphobic monster (bonus points if theyre a trans creator bc i mostly see trans people getting shit for this and it kinda pisses me off. although idm if cis people do it either as long as theyre handling it with respect)
#and this isnt getting into how trans mothwing outside of mothpool is a really good way to read her character#sorry. remembered the shit bonefall got despite being trans as well and got annoyed#that especially annoys me bc hes got plenty of surrogacies but the second hed touch a trans pregnancy#ââno you cant do that!!! you freak!!! obviously you only see trans people as a loophole for gays to have babies!!!ââ#also my gf and i were talking and obviously take this with a grain of salt bc this is our experience#butâŚ. i think a lot of the ppl saying thisâŚâŚ. havent really talked to trans women?#dude some of the ones i know LOVE the idea of getting people pregnant#did you know trans women have sex? did you know trans people in general have sex?? did you know trans people irl wanna start families?#did you know that? did you? or do you black out at the idea of a trans woman being anything but strictly pure and nonsexual#and OBVIOUSLY this is not every trans woman. some do have dysphoria around the idea#but im genuinely starting to wonder how these people act around irl transgender parents#whether they had kids before or after coming out#bc ngl. the attitude that thinking about this makes you a transphobic pervert?#directed at trans people making content for themselves?#im starting to think you all just dont want us to reproduce. if we reproduce we arent ââgoodââ trans people#because a âârealââ man wouldnt carry a child. a âârealââ woman would carry the child. and god forbid the gays even THINK about reproducing#and being around children!#if we have children then weâre doing things that might make cishets look at us and declare weâre not perfect#weâve proved weâre not just identical to cis ppl!! (and therefore deserving of respect!)#idk. i think this was mostly a case of tumblr going ââoh someone said no to this so lets push this to an unhealthy extreme!!ââ#and i cant help but notice nobody really brings up nonbinary parents at all in this discussion#not that we have it ââbetterââ or anything for that but yknow. are we supposed to swear it off?#is the idea of us having kids inconcievable? or worseâŚ. does it mean we ââpicked a side?ââ#so its not even worth getting mad at a pregnant nb person bc ââwell thats a woman so who caresââb#HMMMMM.#ohhhh i bet they also get mad if you make transfem pregnancy possible too. no winning#idk really think about it when you go ââyou can NEVER EVER portray a trans person starting a family. bc REAL trans people would never.ââ#ohhh you probably get mad when trans ppl dont get surgery for one reason or another dontcha#whether we want to or its not in the cards for us for whatever reason like cost and such#(while also getting mad if we do bc we cannot win in this no matter what)
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#thinking of dinosaurs and troodontids were my favorite dinosaurs as a child#when younger i had a real full troodontid tooth fossil that meant a lot to me#for a time we lived within a few kilometers of hadrosaur sites and troodontid sites#while wider general area had many sites of recovery for the big celebrities like tyrannosaur and multiple dromaeosaurs#at that time troodontids were kinda infamous for i think the depiction in some childrens field guides and dino books#which depicted like a fantasy speculative humanoid troodontid based on 1980s model at Canadian Museum of Nature in ottawa#anyway would visit a small local paleo center a lot and woman in her 70s or 80s ran the counter of their center and rock shop#one day she asked me what my fave dino was and i said troodon so she pulled out the tooth and just gifted it to me#in little black case size of ring box with padding and transparent plastic viewing cover kinda like laminate for displaying a trading card#tooth got stolen from out my vehicle while giving some people a ride while at university before i got too poor for tuition#later during first year of pandemic owner of my storage unit died and new property owners threw away everything i ever owned#i was homeless anyway lost job due to early pandemic closures and had to allocate any money to insulin and other prescrip meds#but wouldve found a way to save my things if the new owners had contacted me#they threw out photoalbums y backpacking gear y books y musical instruments y clothes y artwork y camera y all family keepsakes#and all childhood treasures like souvenirs and gifts and school awards and writing portfolios and all the little memories#which i was always sentimental about as child#from earliest age my room looked like a natural history museum with plants and maps and library of field guides#and rocks and field trip keepsakes and all kinds of little animal figurines and mother had painted room in forest greens and browns#to feel like a forest and among the succulent plants and a globe sat the troodon tooth#parents passed when i was a child#never near any family and were always moving never got to settle into proper stable place then father passed after long sad illness#and mother put in so much effort but she passed few years later and i could not take care of myself or my remaining material possessions#and so im still quite hurt having nothing whatsoever remaining of my childhood or school friends or mother or life generally#and when trying to process grief my thoughts often come back to the troodontid tooth as a focal point a distillation of what was lost#even when young i knew it was advised not to become too connected to material physical possessions#but still there are some small little trinkets in our lives that seem to hold so much meaning and i tortured myself for losing that tooth#thinking about troodon reminds me of childhood
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Annual reminder that Aang wasn't a terrible dad, that one episode was badly written and had poor perspective. Aang was a busy, working dad who had a lot of stuff to do, and then suddenly his third kid was a full-on Airbender and he was literally the only one qualified to teach this baby, so then he finally had an excuse to put his family before his duties ("My family IS my duty now, suckers!!!"), and so Kya and Bumi were all "What the heck, Dad???" because they were now teens (iirc) and they missed out on all that stuff.
It was basically Aang going from "my family has 20% of my time" to "my family has 40% of my time". Still not enough, probably, but Aang could finally go and explore his own culture without feeling guilty about leaving the rest of the world to fend for itself.
#poor dude probably had all kinds of mental issues#also literally everything else about his dadhood has been outstanding#his son gets a high rank in the navy#his lesbian daughter gets to go do her thing#tenzin had it hardest of all the kids#we can also get into the whole part where Aang's whole culture separated parents from their kids#so he wasn't exactly raised with a child-to-biological-parent bond himself#the perils of culture clash...especially with a devoted water tribe mother#you've got a culture that says ''Family is EVERYTHING parents will teach their children for LIFE''#meeting a culture that says ''Everyone in the world is your family so you have to treat them equally''#.....gosh that story really needs to be explored more#and they could NOT have delivered it more clumsily#or wrapped it up more frustratingly#''here we are lamenting all our insecurities and inner doubts but LOOK THIS FAMILY PHOTO SHOWS US HAPPY WE MUST HAVE BEEN HAPPY''#I mean...they were#but it was also poorly executed#legend of korra#tlok#atla#how to tell the casuals from those who take this seriously#''aang was a bad dad'' do you even READ SUBTEXT
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something that i think we, as a fandom, should outgrow is reducing characters to common jokes / memes. i think this especially applies for the more minor characters because as someone who has mostly written minor characters, it is really discouraging if the general opinion on a character that you love is [ insert meme here ]. the author already fails to respect his characters. not clowning on the characters your fellow rpers clearly love and adore enough to write them should be the bare minimum
#vi.  ââ  (  * puts on cool socks * okayâ i'm ready to write  /  ooc )#this is about stupid jokes like âw.eenie man jellalâ etc etc etc#but also about stuff like reducing somewhat complex characters to singular traits#we all sometimes clown on our own musesâ but for meâ there is a difference if i clown on sherry in a private chat#or if someone posts bad faith takes#muses are like children in that most parents would probably say that /they/ can say negative things about their own kids but#heaven may have mercy on the poor foolish stranger who does it
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i'm going to tie myself up in knots thinking about lisa silverman. in KNOTS about it. ouroboros, you'll end up letting go. even if you bite down there's NEVER enough meat and it's not even your fault. you're always gonna have to let go. the only thing you get to choose is how far deep the scars can go, and that's not very comforting
#persona 2#lisa silverman#I KICK A FUCKING TRASHCAN SO HARD IT EXPLODES#YOU ARE YOUR FATHER'S CHILD YOUR DESTINY IS TO BE ALIENATED#EITHER MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE IN IT OR FORGET#oh but aren't we all. aren't we all our parent's children.#lisa im sorry that a bitch (me) would ever say anything like that
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Your post about your upcoming Bad Buddy meta got me thinking about Bad Buddy (again), and I remembered one particular thing that had an impact. Apologies if this is long and rather incoherent, I wrote this past midnight.
In the final episode, the part where we see Ming and Dissaya turn a blind eye to Pat Pran's shenanigans really struck a chord with me.
[I'm an Indian, born and raised, and queer, but it's well worth mentioning that my experiences are not universal- in fact, they may be the exception rather than the rule; I'm not quite sure.]
What it reminded me of was, that asian parents tend to come around eventually- in particular mothers. We've seen time and time again in series' that deal with difficult/not accepting family members; Bad Buddy, GAP, Wedding Plan, maybe even Double Savage (haven't watched this one but I believe the dad feels bad in the end?), that even if the parental figure(s) doesn't agree with their children's choices, they learn to compromise. Because the difference in opinions isn't worth losing their children over. Obviously, for every parental figure that comes around there's one that the children cut ties with (Wedding Plan remains a good example), but I think it's something worth seeing.
It made me think of how I was never scared of coming out to my mother, because I knew that, despite the difference in views, and her prejudice, she'd accept me, no matter whether she thought it was a phase or not.
Do I know what the point of this ask is? Not really, I was rather nervous sending this ask, especially not on anon, but I'd love to know what you think of this, since I've come to really enjoy reading the thoughts you have on these shows.
Ohhhh, wow. @starryalpacasstuff, come 'ere for a big mom hug! HUGE HUGS!
I'm gonna unwind a little randomly; I hope this is coherent. A ton of what I write about on my blog vis Ă vis Asian dramas are the unique characteristics of Asian families and an Asian upbringing. Parental conditional love, competitiveness, our unique experiences with intergenerational trauma. I write a lot about how Asians, in our cultural expectations of life, accept pain and suffering as an assumed part of our existences. The reason why I watch Asian dramas exclusively is that, as I'm Asian-American, I just connect far more easily to the Asian cultural experience of growing from a child into an Asian adult, than I do the experience of white Western folks growing into their adulthood. I grew up intimately with Asian cultural practices and expectations; but I also grew up with racism in my external American world, and came to my adulthood in a society that still values white Americans above all other demographics.
But one thing I'm cognizant of, that I don't think I write about enough, is that many of these characteristics of the Asian cultural scopes of life are indeed similar to those that a fully American person (for example) might experience. It's not like intergenerational trauma doesn't exist in the West. It's not like homophobia in families against a child doesn't exist in the West.
However. As an Asian-American, one thing I note about many (not all, of course) Western families and family systems is that very often: Western adults will give up their agency to be loyal to what I might call a "higher power" -- a philosophy, a political preference, a religion. If a queer person wants to come out in a conservative American family, that queer person may very well be risking cutting permanent ties with their family.
That, of course, also happens in our Asian family systems. But I think you're onto something, @starryalpacasstuff. While divorce rates are sky-high in the West -- there is also a paradigm of family systems being and looking different in the West than they do in Asia. Asian family systems still don't accommodate for divorce and blended or chosen families as they do in the West.
The Asian family systems and paradigms that you and I grew up with as Indians absolutely still value a heterosexual two-parent household -- and I'd posit that our past generations, our grandparents and great-grandparents, put HUGE, HUGE pressure on our parents to keep the two-parent family systems together and whole. And to keep the children close. It's a huge value in our Asian cultures to have whole and complete families. The West has become far more accommodating, culturally, on this issue.
And, so. I totally agree with you, @starryalpacasstuff. I think we do see the beginning of a coming-around on the parts of Ming and Dissaya. And that coming-around is certainly something we can relate to. Our parents will likely accept us for our differences. I fucked a lot of shit up with my folks when I decided to live independently of their desires -- and I don't think things really healed (and I still carry tremendous traumatic baggage) until after I had my own kids, and expanded all of our families. Because in the end, the value in our Asian cultures is that keeping the family complete and close still matters more than any one's individual biases or desires.
Ming and Dissaya are remarkably traumatized people. Ming was traumatized by the expectations of his father. He screwed Dissaya over, and literally handed his trauma to Pat on a silver platter, for Pat to embody for most of his life. And Pat flipped that platter over in his father's face and ran away. Ming, at the end of the series, is passive-aggressive with Pat, despite Pat's efforts to try to work with him. And yet -- Ming still sips Pran's scotch.
To your point -- does time heal everything? I'm not so sure in the West, with the Western predilection for Christian/Puritanical/conservative values to supersede reasonable family resolutions. But I think, because of the value that Asian systems put on having complete families, that you are right -- that there may be more room in Asian family systems for eventual acceptance of a child's "differences," despite us living in collectivist societies. This is definitely not an absolute. There are environments in which it's still dangerous to come out. But the value that Asians put on family does indeed give us a tiny bit of comfort that our cultures can move the needle on acceptance in different ways over time.
#thank you for the ask!#the father in double savage does indeed come around#there's so much to think about here#and it's hard to talk in generalities#but i really think it's important that asian dramas about queer experiences show all facets of acceptance and rejection by asian parents#like i appreciated seeing the discriminating father in i feel you linger in the air#because back in that time discrimination was far more common#i think acceptance is growing and growing across asia#we still have conservative asian societies#but as our parents become more familiar with minority demographics#and as WE have our children and teach them about equity#over time#certainly the needle of acceptance will be moved#asian family systems#asian family systems in BLs#asian family systems in QLs#bad buddy#bad buddy meta#bad buddy the series#bad buddy the series meta
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POV: youâre the son of a qing court official and your venerable teacher has just paused his lesson on ideal confucian masculinity to give the class a PSA about the temptations of running off and becoming a taoist monk
#the 'running off to become a monk' trope is one of my absolute favourites it's sooooo funny every time#it happens so often in books and everyone around them always loses their shit. with Buddhism also#noble parents out here like 'we must teach our children to respect the buddha and remember the impermanence of mortal life BUT NOT TOO MUCH#'we're buddhist..... but not *that* buddhist. stop reciting sutras and go earn lots of money and honour as a confucian state official <3'#meme of the red chamber#dream of the red chamber#hong lou meng#books
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