#V2: beginnings

[city0f-dreams]

Tag Dump 3: Muse Stuff, Part 2

[transearthmover]

mirage being called sunshine and v2 having the icarus motif is driving me So fucking crazy

[ginnmann]

i love pieces of v1 (or gabriel) doing reconstruction and maintenance checks of themselves but it got me thinking

do they rust? like, v2 doesnt need more blood to heal (likely a downfall for them in their fight but). im wondering if v2 was left alive if they would rot and rust away without technical help

like once hells empty will v1 just slowly corrode away, will their parts stop funtioning and their wires fray? if theres nothing to take care of the v models, how do they keep up with their maintenance?

this might be a dumb thought spiral at 12am but i just like the idea of a v1 fanfic about them at their end of their journey, dwindling away in a literal empty hellscape. its so sad but also such good food

[cherubchoirs]

Are we just gonna ignore the ticking time bomb which is the truth about Lucifer's fall (eventually) coming out? What would or why would it happen? Or would Uriel and the other old angels take that one to the grave?

lucifer's fall is a now complicated narrative - anything written in uriel's books on the matter is obviously false, fabricated as god directed him to do so, but the memories of the angels from that time have been repeatedly put into question, making it difficult for even those directly involved in the war to now say what happened in those days. compounding this is the simple fact that god is seen as infallible and so, therefor, as the end authority on what the truth really is. uriel doesn't have access to thoughts, but god does. to this end, if god tells them all the lucifer had designs to take over his throne, that he was scheming, jealous, wicked, it must be so. lucifer's words, his public stance against god, were nothing more than lip service - he is the father of lies and used deception to his ends. at first, it's difficult for those who knew him to believe even if god's word must be so. yet, as time goes on, as they forget lucifer, as they forget his boundless love and his endless passion, they begin to accept it, believe in it, and ultimately hold it as gospel. because of their closeness, the archangels do hold private reservations, with michael's being the worst and resulting in the manifestation of his dogmatic adherence to god, but otherwise...it is widely accepted and adopted as true, even for those who were a part of the war. unfortunately, hell has access to the testaments.

now the testaments. aren't that important to v1. the history of this place isn't of particular interest to it and it largely puts them out of its mind after quickly reading and filing them away. however, gabriel will ultimately have to reach a true point of reckoning and deconstruction of his faith - he has reflected on god's world and its falsehoods, in his fall he has reveled for a time in rebelling against it and everything he was under it, but once the turbulence slows, he needs to actually confront himself as an angel that has lost its faith in god. and i think during that time, with all its suffering, its hate, its grief, v1 directs him toward the testaments it nearly threw in its trash bin. he deserves to see the truth as god himself wrote it rather than be an abandoned child left guessing. and while they hold a myriad of hard truths for gabriel to process, the truth of lucifer is devastating. he questioned the existence of hell, he questioned the validity of its purpose, and for that he was cast out. because god didn't have an answer. when gabriel sifts through the haze of eons, digs under the story as told by god, pushes past the severe punishments they all endured under the guise of rooting out any more like lucifer (used, in no small part, to make them all hate him, to make it seem as though their agony was caused by lucifer instead of god), he can remember him in parts. it's so hard to undo the damage done, all the deception, punishments, and threats god used to make them all weapons against lucifer, but now as a fallen angel, gabriel is faithless just enough to find his way to his own real memories.

they aren't strong. they barely cling to the corners of his mind after so much battering. but he remembers what it felt like in lucifer's presence, the warmth and jubilation of his experience. he radiated love and his words poured forth that love, his brilliance shared with all that joined to him. the pieces are broken, but i think this, paired with working up his courage to actually seek lucifer out and seeing his fate, would set gabriel on a campaign to finally pull his memory out of the shit god callously cast it into and force heaven to really see who they still cleave to. he deserves that much, though he may be now warped beyond recognition like so many of the angels that fell with him. and while he can do little to fight for this directly, his main goal is to make his siblings see what he does. they will all be VERY resistant to his attempts, but it would likely be uriel who is the first to admit to falsehoods in this narrative - he's written enough edited content to know god directed him to lie in his histories, so he accepts it the easiest. the other two prove much more difficult - raphael wants little to do with the conversation and michael is incredibly volatile at the idea. and gabriel knows why. he understands it. raphael is kind, he is so gentle-hearted the truth is too terrible to swallow - and, selfishly, he wants peace and harmony. this would disrupt the comfort he and all of heaven has left, and his main directive is always, always to make things comfortable. michael is just as obvious, he has combated this in his own soul for all this time, tearing apart from the inside out over the idea that lucifer may not have deserved his awful punishment and how holding that belief made him some kind of apostate in his own mind. so any mention of it sends him into a rage, proclaiming his hatred for lucifer and condemning gabriel's own hell-twisted mind for contorting the truth so.

the only way they could be convinced is to read the testaments for themselves and be sure it is god's word (hard to deny i think, as i hc they are written in the language of heaven which nothing in hell can reproduce...and v1 must actually interpret it for gabriel, as the words burn his eyes and nauseate him, so could come from no infernal source) raphael recoils from it, retreating into prayer as though that could change the words in front of him. uriel is....resigned yet ashamed, like he always knew this to be true and feels his hand in perpetuating it for all this time. but in reality, michael's determination is the most important - he is still the prince of heaven regardless of his current state, and so is now their highest authority. and he sees the words. he sees himself. he sees all this has come to, the kingdom of god as the banner he carried and his broken little family gathered around him. in spite of themselves, they want him to say something. but god's word is his word. he reads it for what it is and michael, always so legal, always so literal, can interpret it only one way. he grasps at his scripture, yet the closest crime worthy of hell he can attribute it to, accusing the work of the holy spirit to be evil, hardly fits. he would be twisting canon's meaning and lucifer's words, as he only questioned. he just asked. it could be a sin to ask...but never a sin that couldn't be repented. the more he thinks on it in measured silence, the more he knows he's inserting ambiguity where there is none. god transposed his guilt onto lucifer, knowing it was wrong. and michael can't go against the word of god.

he will determine with raphael and uriel how best to tell heaven. and he will finally undo his chains

[bleh1bleh2]

How am I supposed to continue reading the New Teen Titans when Donna Troy just almost caused 9/11. What am I do do with this information.

[mcltiples]

UNPROMPTED ASKS || always accepting

@evilmcg sent; This had been no rare occurrence. At this point the newest edition to the emortys had made himself clear with meg. How he wanted her as her own and when she rejected him nicely at first before really getting firm with it he made a habit of kidnapping her. He had tried forcing her to love him and over and over again he failed. Finally he was at his wits end. The two had gotten into a fight and both were worse for wear.

But thanks to his tech he managed to get the upper hand on her. "If you won't be mine you won't be his either." With last move he stabbed her through the gut. By the time meg's actual boyfriend arrived it was too late. She was bleeding out and fast. She took solace that atleast she managed to be held in his arms for her final moment. "Morty..." With the last of her strength she held into the fabric of his shirt. "I love you. Please don't leave me." (for the death arc for evilmcg)

Everything felt wrong for the past few hours. Morty knew Meg was gone, but where? He couldn't exactly figure that one out. It's as if she vanished. Taken from his Citadel and put who knows where. Normally it wouldn't terrify him, she often wandered elsewhere. However, there was no signs of her at her usual places.

And his stomach churned in the worst possible way. Indicating that he must feel something that his mind couldn't comprehend. A natural instinct that was unexplainable.

Hours were dedicated in finding her. Not only he set out in the search effort, but he commanded the guards and E-Rick to look all over. Nothing.

That is, until he walked into the office for the third time that night. His eyes settled on something. Shoe marks. Ones that matched his own, but weren't his. And neither were they his counterpart's. Well, the counterpart that he was dating, at least.

Which meant, it had to be the third version of them.

No time to waste, grabbing the portal gun from his desk drawer, he immediately aimed to onto that Citadel. Stepping foot on the other side, the first thing his eyes were subjected to was the glistening of the knife, dripping with blood.

Before Meg could fall onto the ground, he reached out to take hold of her. Stumbling, landing on his ass, as she laid across his lap, his arms curled around her frame. Amber eyes frantically flickered between her face and the blood that poured out of the open wound.

The Other Evil Morty would have to be dealt with, but for now, he needed to focus on her. As his hand immediately pressed onto the wound, soaking his hand in her blood, applying pressure in hopes that it would stop.

Please, just let it stop.

Inside of his chest, his heart began to race. He tried speaking, but his throat constricted, making it too hard to get anything out. All he could do was look down at her. The light in her eyes slowly fading out. The strength in her body weakening.

The blood wasn't stopping. She lost too much of it and it kept coming out.

For the first time in his life, he felt powerless. Unable to do anything other than sit there. Just watching her die. It felt like his own personal Hell.

And finally, when he could feel her lifeless body go limp, he hunched forward. Until his forehead met with the floor, his body covering her, gripping at her tightly. Afraid to really move her too much, but he needed to be close to her.

Within deep from his chest, he let out the loudest, raspy, guttural yell that one could possibly let out. His cheeks were wet from the tears that came out of him.

Pain radiated from his chest, up to his face, tensing so much from the heavy emotions. Sobbing into her forearm. Regret washing over at how he didn't even get to say goodbye or to tell her that he loved her. His own emotions were overwhelming his senses. Everything swirling in his head.

And then it stopped. Everything felt silent for a moment. His brain focused on one thing only. Which made his body move on it's own. Slowly releasing his grip onto her, he stood up.

For a moment, he just stood there. Until his feet began to slowly move forward. Amber eyes sharp and cold, even with the remnants of tears still in them. Glued onto his target.

Before the other could register what happened, he took a syringe out of his pocket, lunged forward to grab the front of the other's shirt, pulling forward and jabbing the needle into the other's neck. He quickly held onto the body that became limp. Surprisingly, his counterpart wasn't that heavy, even with being sedated.

The next couple of minutes would be ruthless, but he had his plans. Ones that he couldn't do without the help of a few Ricks. For the moment, his second-in-command would take Meg's body to the Citadel's laboratory.

And for his counterpart, well, he would be personally taking his body to a different lab. One more secluded. His original Rick's lab that they had installed when reunited. There, he would need everything to carry out his plans.

[mothfinite]

i think i might adjust the mimoth timeline again ever so slightly so that moth doesnt quite remember who mimic is when duo is introduced. theres a fuzzy chunk of memories that still has yet to fully return for them after their recovery arc in this timeline; they can remember feeling betrayed, but not by who - and yet they can also feel a sense of warmth and protection from when they were dragged into the bad guys storyline. they can only see shades of indigo in these memories, they cant make out a face or form

when duo pops up, moth feels those memories resurface. theyre just a little clearer. moth decides to trust their gut and keep an eye on duo. mimic thinks this is them signaling that they totally know and it makes him nervous; a rare emotion for him to feel. how this concludes is still up to how the comic plays out but eventually they get together 4realz

^ fuckin hate this guy

[ophiocordyceps]

got inspired (largely by @muzzleroars) to take a shot at coming up w. my own version of the other three archangels and i got some concepts laid down already

auriel (or uriel, both are accepted) is a seraph who serves as part of the council of auriel's own volition, primarily as an enabler and source to much of their dogma. auriel knows a lot of things and its motives are generally unknown to most, but auriel isn't particularly the kindest in heaven by a long shot; it's largely logical but following its own specific logic that has warped over time since the disappearance of god. like most seraphim, auriel would previously answer directly to god himself and no other, and most would simply ignore or be hostile towards lower angels in the wake of their abandonment. after the massacre of the council, auriel's whereabouts are unknown, but it's likely that auriel was not present at the time. it's hard to kill a seraph. often humanoid but auriel's true form is that of a massive, fiery flying serpent, in usual seraph fashion (no pronouns or it/he/she)

raphael is a fallen angel who was cast out by the council in secrecy, soon after the fall of man. he was one of the few who eagerly chose to associate with the experiment that was humanity and the council decided to take advantage of that fact to accuse him of having strayed away from god. he typically roams hell, assisting the remains of humanity now that he is not barred from doing so, though hell had at some point forcefully blinded him. it.did not like being looked at by an angel, fallen or not. he's kind of a bee. (he/it)

michael was the one tasked with casting lucifer out of heaven and now resides frozen within treachery alongside him. it's unknown whether he is a prisoner or the warden in this situation, locked in there alongside his quarry, while gabriel has since taken up his role as commander in his prolonged absence. likely still alive but out for the count indefinitely. (he/him)

not one of the archangels but i think lucifer can have she/her pronouns in addition to he/him as a treat. i think it'd be neat

[burnslikehunger]

@tricoloredillusion​ started following you

“Roman’s little pet, was it?”

The warehouse in question wasn’t the most ideal place to arrange this meeting, but convincing Roman to part with his dear, beloved shadow proved to be quite difficult. It had taken months of wearing the thief down, through flattery and threats alike.

But for the plan to go smoothly, this meeting was necessary. If Neopolitan was to join their infiltration team into Beacon, that meant Cinder needed to get a read on her without Torchwick being involved. It meant that Cinder had to be sure that the pint sized powerhouse wouldn’t stab her in the back or otherwise ruin anything.

The last thing Cinder wanted was to resort to Plan B. Adam would be awful at this kind of subterfuge.

“I don’t believe I’ve ever seen you stray far from him. Such loyalty is admirable.” If annoying. No matter how this meeting proceeded, Cinder knew that the girl in front of her would always be Torchwick’s. Tsk.

Was unquestioning loyalty like Emerald’s so much to ask for? Apparently.

“I have... a proposition for you. A potential job. One your boss is vaguely aware of, but I felt the need to run it past you... directly.”

[random-meme-bot]

When did you initially come up with your oc's? Like... long has the concept of hexes on the shelves existed in your head? :0

Also, this may be a hard question but do you maybe have any voice headcanons for them? :o

Ok this is actually a hard question to answer, since the actual idea of a duo of character that can see ghost and it's ghost partner started way way back when I was a kid due to a pair of Spanish educational point & click adventure games called "Central de Fantasmas" (ghost central)

While the games are surprisingly high quality for the standars of educational games (the guy voice actor also does Fry in futurama as well as a lot other characters in other shows), all things considered they didn't do much with the ghost idea, so it led to my kid shelf imagining this stories about a duo of characters one human and one ghost, I'll be honest I don't remember anything about them.

A few years back, on 2022 I got really nostalgic for this games and decided to play them (took a while to make them run since these where designed for Windows XP tops) and the memories of me playing came back and through the next days of playing I started again tinkering with the idea of a human/ghost duo, it all clicked when YouTube recomended me the song "All my friends are ghost" by Dib Dooley (the original non music video is older but it's no longer on her channel)

That's the point where my mind gave form to Ely, this parody of a mystery children book protagonist, unlike those who pieced things together out of clues that then would lead them to traping the villan thanks to their quick thinking and resourcefulness, Ely was clumsy, almost always was in the wrong track with her assumptions, and only managed to catch the bad guy at the end and survive fighting against literal crime bosses because of her friend Dan, a grumpy ghost who despite what he says really cares about Ely and makes sure to protect her, all lead to this.

The first ever art of Ely & Dan.

Ely's dressing was roughly inspired by another parody of Kids mystery books, Jenny LeClue, while Dan's was inspired by Gibson from the Webtoon "Greetings from Grisley".

Despite the fact that Jenny doesn't have a hat while Gibson does, the hat actually was originally drawn as part of Elly's design to complement the detective look, then it was given to Dan as it's design looked to simple.

The idea kept going in my head and some questions started to form "Why can Elly see ghosts?" "Why does Dan want to become a writer so bad?" "How does Dan manage to pay the bills with him being a ghost and his book store not making any money?".

That's the point where I decided to actually make a story out of this and started to learn how to use adventure game studio, when I more or less had an understanding of how everything worked and had programed a way to switch between normal Ely & Dan Elly, I realized that I didn't have any sprites or artist abilities, after some days and a bunch of re doing I had the sprite versions that I posted over here.

I decided to park the project for now and develop some art skills moment in which I started to draw other ideas I had (check the art section in my pinned post for more on that).

The Ideas for Ely & Dan keep going in my head evolving until their current version and at that point I just couldn't take it I needed to share them, so I took your advice and decided that even if they weren't going to look the best they could at least they were going to look, and so Elly & Dan were posted.

So yeah, to answer it simply, the concept as we know it today, middle of 2023 more or less, the original concept more or less middle to late 2022, the Original idea 2010 or so...

Also about the second question, I don't, I've tried to come up with voices for them both in English & in Spanish but they always change.

[caracello]

i like v2.

[unabashedly-so]

fuck it, we ball.

posting Yours & Mine (But Mostly Yours) soon.

[d0d0-b0i]

i am an nnd shipper not out of desire but out of /necessity/. if i think about them too much my brain starts overheating in agony over whether the writers knew what they were doing or not

[bmpmp3]

so kaito and meiko SP are the main thing I'm interested in as the worlds only V3 engine noise hater and worlds biggest v1 defender and SO FAR from listening to peoples examples.... well kaito SP actually sounds like he has a lot of promise to me, he has some of the richness that I missed from his v1 that was like stripped from his v3, although at some notes he almost sounds a bit too kiyoteru-esque (i love kiyoteru but hes a different guy with a different voice) BUT maaaaybe if you mess around with his parameters he could get more of that tastey v1 depth... does piapro have tension parameters, i think they have gender and breathiness at least. his consonants are crazy tho like i dont hate em, actually they remind me of the old cheap yamaha keyboard keypress spring sound that i always heard in his v3 whisper (the one thing i liked about his v3 LOL it feels nostalgic to me. like my elementary school piano teacher is gonna yell at me for not having a real piano <3 ) but they are OUT THERE. they are CRISPY. but yeah i hope i can find more lower ranged tests out there before i fully make up my mind on how i feel about it, the richer low tones are always what i loved about his v1

meiko sp is a little more dire. again i think i need to hear more tests (and shes not very popular so theres very few 😔) but like THERE IS a lot of promise in her lower and mid notes, and her long high notes sound great BUT her short high notes sound weirdly miku? im not sure if its just the vibrato or the pronunciation itself, can piapro and vocaloid edit the speed and depth of vibratos? i need to learn more about the softwares LOL BUT again i'll have to pray someone messes around with her lower range and maybe fucks around with the gender and other parameters before i can get a good grasp on it. im still very intrigued though

[cherubchoirs]

Hear me out, if Michael believes that even the lowest sinner deserves absolute punishment and V2 was programed to protect people could this lead to arguments or even conflicts between the two of them?

Like, I can't imagine Michael would possibly have anything against V2 wishing to avoid fights but what if Michael wished harm against a husk, such as what he did with the Ferryman, while V2 didn't see them as deserving it (I would guess that as a peacekeeper V2 has some sort of "judge-and-jury.exe" sort thing that let's her judge whether or not someone is a threat or something). Would V2 actively seek to protect a husk if they deemed they weren't a threat, such as a husk living under Minos' protection?

Also, thanks for making this amazing au! You really don't get enough credit for all the hard work that you've put in to it.

this is absolutely the case and why i think of v2 as integral to michael regaining his sense of mercy after all the years he's spent enveloped in god's wrath. v2 is in a very unique position with mike, understanding him in ways many others can't while also having no fear of retribution from him nor being subject to his leadership. it has his respect, it has a connection with him, but it has no problem speaking its mind to him as well. mostly they butt heads over the exact subjects michael expects and so it's not deeply thought-provoking - of course v2 isn't devout, and he doesn't believe it needs to be concerned with what he does as an angel (they'll still bicker about it, but it's nothing so serious) it's very different, though, when the matter of justice, of michael's sense of right and wrong, is put into question by v2, when it raises up arms against him in the protection of husks.

for michael, the matter should be simple when it comes to the damned - they have already been judged and so, as the warden of hell, his justification is implicit. no matter the punishment he deals, no matter the ruling he makes, they are at his discretion and it cannot be flawed for an angel that has so long served in this role, who was made for it. michael is so sure of his given righteousness that v2's defiance of him in that moment, a moment so banal for him as he whips his chains to bind out of place husks, that he thinks it must be mistaken (or he of its intent). the husks are small, filths or strays or schisms, terrified by the angel and the machine just the same, but when michael moves again v2 levels a gun at him demanding he leave these people alone. people? they are sinners, they are the damned, condemned forever by god's law to be inhuman husks. v2 sees it then, that these souls no longer have value in michael's eyes and so can no longer be treated by all the hypothetical mercy he had spoken of. it recoils slightly, trying to find a bit of reason in him but getting regurgitated, dogmatic talking points that barely sound like the michael it knows. even when he argued with it about god and about the laws, it felt passion from him, it felt his personal joy in being a part of it. this feels unthinking, unmoving, at best. hateful. so hateful, he thinks his stance is given and there is no need to defend it...so he has no personal defenses for it.

it creates a major split in the two, the first real damaging blow their established relationship sustains - v2 is adamant and so is michael, both growing furious with the other (likely while the husks escape back to minos's city and never take a walk outside AGAIN!!!) this is not what v2 expected of michael and michael is shocked that his ethical standing is challenged. he does all the rationalizing he can, v2 is a machine, v2 was made by human hands, v2 is wrong because it doesn't understand god, it doesn't understand true law, it knows imperfect, unfair human law. yet...there is doubt in that rationale. michael respects v2's opinions, he has listened to it talk about the achievement of peace and how it was taught so much to judge in fairness. he knows how deeply complex its mind is, not so trapped by bias and emotion the way humans can be though it was designed for them - in fact, v2 could be quite harsh and was made to enforce peace, not just maintain it. he has continually pushed aside gabriel's protest against his conduct because he is fallen, hell-warped...but now v2 is saying the same. michael stays away for some time, cloistered up in heaven and contemplative (for once).

when he returns, it is in that state of doubt, wretched as it is for an angel. and he speaks to v2, plainly, about what his justice is, with v2 quickly seeing how deeply michael has been affected by god's own displeasure. this is not an overnight process. michael, with v2, slowly opens up more and more about his hatred, his vitriolic anger, his utter, unapologetic disgust for the husks of hell, and how he is right for it. it's not simple for v2 to dissect, it gets them into further arguments and shouting matches, but it refuses to give up on this for how much it sees it festering inside of him. michael has mercy and michael has reasoning, and v2 isn't going to allow him to continue his cruelty unabated any longer as it destroys him far more than any rot ever could. in a way, it is achieving more peace than it ever has and that lights a fire in it - for hell's peace, for michael's peace. it's going to use everything it's got, and it's going to be sure mike can no longer abuse the souls here as he sees fit. and the more v2 stands in his way, the more it challenges him over and over, the more it picks at the threads of his hatred to begin unraveling it. it will pull it right down to its evil root, when god told michael to punish lucifer is to show him mercy, when the fallout afterward demanded no love, no matter how little, for the damned could be shown lest an angel go the same way.

[twilidramon]

trying to write original stories more like fighting my urge to scream and re-do everything because my brain is being gnawed on by idea ants