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swapswap-ust · 2 months ago

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Welcome to the SwapSwap UST account:

Here updates will be posted about the fanmade alternate soundtrack for SwapSwap we are working on

here is our soundcloud account https://soundcloud.com/something-i-guess-something

Our fanmade alternate soundtrack is not for the current canon version of SwapSwap.

it's based off of a older version

I and everyone else working on this are not affiliated with @/oranskullblade aka the owner of SwapSwap.

Check these docs out to understand how SwapSwap works https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z1KSBYTMldfGlLNL6S9MjmCF26LWcfEBELomM27m6nE/edit?usp=drivesdk https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KMhfrhvg-E5KOVRXXrIN1Yt6YemRnWEQcQiDygksSyE/edit?usp=drivesdk

people always assume it's Undertale again when it's not.

People also assume it swaps underswap back to Undertale even tho that is also NOT true.

it's literally supposed to be underswap's own Underswap because that's what it would be and is logically.

IT LITERALLY IS UNDERSWAP's OWN UNDERSWAP.

I've seen people give SwapSwap the name swapback and that makes no sense at all.

SwapSwap does not swap anything back. infact it goes forward by adding another swap onto underswap.

It's literally underswap's own underswap

It's just adding underswap onto underswap

it's adding the exact same au onto itself.

that's what SwapSwap is.

I have no clue why people decided to make a fake alternate name for SwapSwap. swapback was never a name for SwapSwap. and

while yes canon SwapSwap sometimes has had the *it's just undertale again* mindset influence it that's not what SwapSwap is supposed to be

And regardless that's not what it would be logically.

Also about the being chill is Underswap papyrus' thing now in the second doc that was just me trying to find a way to get you to see it the way we see SwapSwap. tho in reality while it is a trait Underswap papyrus has it came from Undertale sans.

Underswap papyrus has those traits in Underswap but they are still undertale sans" personality.

while yes it is true that underswap papyrus acts like that in universe for obvious reasons as it's literally a au called underswap

BUT irl we know he got his personality from undertale sans so it is not really underswap papyrus' own thing

BUT that does not mean you need to call SwapSwap sans undertale sans again

While yes when talking about Underswap papyrus you say underswap papyrus has the personality of undertale sans

SwapSwap sans is meant to be based off of Underswap papyrus so you'd say he has the personality of swap papyrus.

you are supposed to see underswap papyrus's personality as it's own thing

what I'm trying to say is underswap papyrus' personality is it's own thing but also is NOT at the same time if ya know what I mean.

because as I have just said. when thinking about underswap you would say underswap papyrus' personality comes from undertale sans.

But when it comes to SwapSwap you are supposed to see underswap papyrus' personality as original

Instead of trying to connect it to undertale.

which yes when talking about underswap you would connect it to undertale

As underswap papyrus' personality comes from undertale sans

however you are NOT supposed to do that when talking about SwapSwap. as when talking about SwapSwap

The personalties of the underswap cast should always be seen as their own things and any association with undertale should not be involved when talking about SwapSwap

Also as I have said before in the second doc

Even if SwapSwap was not based off of canon underswap and instead was based

off of a version of Underswap where 100% of the Undertale cast's personality is swapped

and no new personality traits are created

And therefore making a underswap papyrus with no new personality traits and that acts 100% like undertale sans

I would still not call SwapSwap undertale again.

SwapSwap should ALWAYS be seen as it's own thing. NO MATTER WHAT.

SwapSwap is it's own thing.

One way to look at it is if undertale never existed or at least that's what I would say

If it was not for the fact that you do not need to pretend undertale does not exist to see SwapSwap as NOT undertale again

Plus if undertale suddenly became a thing in existence again you'd call SwapSwap Undertale all over again.

Despite the universes being extremely different. and when I mean extremely I mean ENTIRELY different.

SwapSwap is LTERALLY intended to be underswap's own underswap

Also once again SwapSwap sans is not 80% Undertale sans and 20% swap sans

As I've already said a million times by now SwapSwap is LITERALLY UNDERSWAP's OWN UNDERSWAP. Undertale personalities would not be in it.

SwapSwap sans would act like 80% underswap papyrus and 20% underswap sans.

however people keep saying SwapSwap sans is 80% undertale sans and 20% underswap sans because

They do not see SwapSwap as it's own separate thing from undertale. instead of saying he is 80% Underswap papyrus and 20% Underswap sans they say

He's 80% Undertale sans and 20% underswap sans

Even tho SwapSwap is not related to Undertale AT ALL

Somehow people see underswap for what it's trying to be

and do not call underswap papyrus just undertale sans again

or underswap sans just undertale papyrus again

but they'll be completely hypocritical when it comes to SwapSwap as they'll call SwapSwap sans just undertale sans again when SwapSwap sans is intended to have the personality of Underswap papyrus

The lesson here is.

do not listen to what people say.

Also people think too much because if they did not SwapSwap would not have so much false info being put out about it.

Once you stop thinking so much you'll be able to see SwapSwap as it's own thing. and if you can not remember what I told you.

as what I'm saying is a fact.

Also fun fact: not even canon SwapSwap is safe from the false info about SwapSwap either.

And while yes this is a issue that previous versions of SwapSwap have had the current canon version of SwapSwap also has it.

Because like no offense at all to the official SwapSwap team BUT The description for the SoundCloud account calls it "the same but different" and the tumblr account says

"the underswap cast swaps keeping some of their original traits with them"

which yes you could look at it in a certain perspective that would make it true

because the Underswap cast does get their personalities swapped in swapswap meaning they are no longer

who they used to be but now alternate universe equivalents that took their personalities' from eachother

but in reality ALL of the underswap cast's personalities are still in SwapSwap. just most of it has been swapped besides 20% staying the same.

this also applies to underswap's relationship with undertale as ALL of the Undertale cast's personalities do exist in underswap.

it's just mostly swapped besides 20%

The line they said just felt like they were saying that due to them swapping again they now act like the undertale cast with some of their original underswap selves remaining.

which obviously would be something only someone with the "it's undertale again" mindset would have.

so yeah. if you look at it in a certain way it's wrong. but remember. it could also be right.

and remember everybody.

SwapSwap is underswap's own underswap.

oh and before I go. I also wanna say undertale personalties are not accounted for in later swap aus after underswap

like I said before aus like swapswap are their own things.

infact it would also be wrong to say that underswap characters have their personalties warped in later swaps AFTER swapswap. tho it's not warping it's just

swapping as swapswap is underswap's own underswap.

I'm saying this because many people see the process of swapping aus over and over

as warping the Undertale cast's personality over and over even tho that's not how it works at all.

Swap stack aus are not meant to warp the personalities of the undertale cast.

also these are swap aus. they do not quote "warp" anything.

The personalities of the SwapSwap cast are based off of the underswap cast

it would not be swapping or warping the personalities of the undertale cast.

And the personalities of the tripleswap cast are based off of the SwapSwap cast.

also if you somehow do not know what tripleswap is

it is SwapSwap's own underswap.

back to talking about SwapSwap.

I know I have already said this before multiple times but always

See SwapSwap as it's own thing.

I sure as hell do.

For example while SwapSwap has the same story as underswap and

underswap has the same story as undertale

I would NOT say something like

*therefore SwapSwap has the same story as undertale.*

because that is wrong.

as that's just something someone with the "it's just undertale again* mindset would say

also I'm making the choice o have SwapSwap papyrus also fight you in the genocide route because

There is a headcanon that canon underswap sans would not forgive you in a genocide route despite having the personality of underswap papyrus

Note that I said it's a headcanon

because there's no evidence of canon underswap sans NOT being intended to forgive you in canon underswap.

however there is also no evidence to say the headcanon is false because

It was never said that underswap sans would forgive you either.

for all we know it could be canon that he would hate you in the genocide route just like undertale sans.

which would also mean you would have to fight both underswap papyrus and underswap sans

and because the headcanon exists I feel valid having SwapSwap papyrus fight you in the genocide run because he is based off of underswap sans.

BUT I will say this. underswap papyrus' personality would NOT be why SwapSwap papyrus would to fight you in a genocide route.

only the headcanon of swap sans hating you in underswap would be a good reason to have SwapSwap papyrus fight you in SwapSwap

OK WAIT NEVERMIND because since SwapSwap is underswap's own underswap

if you had the headcanon of underswap sans hating you because he kept undertale sans' personality trait of not forgiving you in the genocide route

Then it would make sense to also have the headcanon that SwapSwap papyrus could indeed keep underswap papyrus' personality trait of not forgiving you in the genocide route.

just like how underswap sans could have taken undertale sans' trait of not forgiving you in the genocide run.

Also btw underswap papyrus is still

more forgiving than undertale sans but underswap papyrus is still not as forgiving as undertale papyrus

papyrus in underswap has the tolerance of the average person when it comes to things like genocide.

Also somehow people managed to confuse SwapSwap with another au called revertswap. even tho the names should tell you they are entirely different. you already know how SwapSwap works now. it's

underswap's own underswap which also makes it Undertale swapped twice. tho of course SwapSwap is not based off of undertale at all.

SwapSwap is a underSWAP au. BUT due to being underswap's own underswap that unintentionally makes it Undertale swapped twice too.

As underswap is the result of swapping undertale once.

And SwapSwap adds another swap onto underswap.

therefore making it BOTH underswap's own underswap and Undertale swapped twice.

SwapSwap is a au that adds another swap onto underswap and that means it is going forward not backwards

As it adds underswap onto itself

it's a au of underswap after all.

but it's also undertale swapped twice too.

SwapSwap is meant to give underswap it's own underswap.

meanwhile revertswap is a entirely different au. revertswap is meant to revert underswap back to undertale

It reverts everything from underswap back to undertale. this includes stuff like the roles the designs etc etc. almost everything is reverted.

the one thing that is not is the personalities of the underswap cast.

that stays the same.

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punyboi3andknuckles · 2 months ago

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Alright. starting off with what SwapSwap is.

SwapSwap is a au of Underswap

SwapSwap is underswap's own underswap

however due to that meaning for example underSWAP papyrus taking the role of underSWAP sans

people started having the false belief that SwapSwap is just undertale again

I'm going to explain why SwapSwap is not and NEVER will be undertale

now let's get to addressing those false claims

First off. people for example believe SwapSwap sans is in the same role as undertale sans and has the personality of undertale sans

however that is not true AT ALL. remember. as I have said before.

SwapSwap sans is the result of swapping underSWAP papyrus and underSWAP sans

and also undertale personalities and roles would not be in a au of underswap

and while yes underswap is based off of undertale

you're suppose to think of the underswap personalities and roles and the entire au as it's own unrelated thing to undertale

and therefore people would stop trying to connect SwapSwap to something it is not related to. AKA Undertale

SwapSwap sans would not be in the role of undertale sans. he's supposed to be in the role as underswap papyrus.

and while yes underswap papyrus is in the same role as undertale sans

you are NOT supposed to say SwapSwap sans is in the role of undertale sans.

SwapSwap sans is in the role of underswap papyrus.

and if you struggle understanding that you will NOT be able to understand how SwapSwap works.

Also SwapSwap is not a au where underswap is reverted back to undertale.

or a au where the underswap cast are in the undertale cast's roles or any of that bullshit.

infact SwapSwap goes forwards.

it swaps underswap.

Also due to swapswap being underswap's own underswap it functions exactly like underswap.

Also

you don't have to remove the knowledge that underswap papyrus has undertale sans' personality but when thinking about SwapSwap

you are supposed to see underswap papyrus's personality as original AND see

that SwapSwap sans is based on underswap papyrus

all of the stuff I've just said also applies to the rest of the SwapSwap cast

also a logical SwapSwap would be based off of canon underswap.

and in underswap. it swaps 80% of the undertale cast's personalities and keeps 20% the same

and due to SwapSwap LITERALLY BEING THE EXACT SAME AU AS UNDERSWAP BUT IF YOU ADDED IT ONTO ITSELF

it would function the exact same

So SwapSwap would swap 80% of the underSWAP cast's personalities and keep 20% the same

meaning for example SwapSwap sans is 80% underswap papyrus and 20% underswap sans

Also underswap created new personality traits for it's cast

And due to literally being underswap's own underswap

SwapSwap would function the exact same

Also due to being a au of underswap those original personality traits underswap created would also be in SwapSwap too

tho they are now swapped because

As we all know SwapSwap swaps the roles and personalities of the underswap cast

And those original personality traits are of course part of the underswap cast's personalities

Also I have something very important to say

Due to everything I've been saying people that still do not understand SwapSwap will leave replies that will spread false info

as people will start saying stuff like

*if SwapSwap swaps 80% of the underswap cast's personalities and keeps 20% the same that must mean SwapSwap sans is 80% undertale sans and 20% swap sans*

even tho something like that makes 0 sense.

now why would people say this?

well because as I have said before

SwapSwap sans is 80% swap papyrus and 20% underswap sans

and Underswap papyrus has the personality of undertale sans

so people assume that SwapSwap sans is 80% undertale sans

and yes I know what you may be thinking

Why do people say SwapSwap sans is 80% undertale sans

but also do NOT say he's 20% underTALE papyrus too.

after all underswap sans is based off of undertale papyrus

just like how underswap papyrus is based off of undertale sans.

well that's because underswap has always been seen as it's own thing in terms of the personalities

and because of that people do not call Underswap sans just undertale papyrus again.

Ok now it's time to prove why everybody is wrong about SwapSwap sans being 80% undertale sans and 20% swap sans

and why he is 80% swap papyrus and 20% swap sans

to start this off. 1. why in the actual fuck would he have the personality of 2 other sanses. that makes 0 sense.

did underswap papyrus have the personality of 2 papyruss. FUCK NO.

it would defeat the purpose of a au called underswap

you're supposed to swap characters out with other characters.

tho as long as it still makes sense and they are good matchups of course

Also as I have said before you're supposed to see underswap papyrus' personality as it's own thing

and you're supposed to say SwapSwap sans has the personality of Underswap papyrus

not undertale sans

also as I have said before SwapSwap is a au of underswap. it's LITERALLY underswap's own underswap

it would make no sense for anything related to undertale to be in SwapSwap.

moving on. I have something else I wanna say.

First off. (Fanon is a different word from Canon.)

moving on to my point.

Even if there was a version of SwapSwap that was based off of Fanon underswap

which by the way in fanon underswap

ALL of the Undertale cast's personalities are swapped AND there are no new personality traits AT ALL

which therefore would create a underswap papyrus that has no new personality traits and that acts EXACTLY like undertale sans

I would still say SwapSwap sans has the personality of underswap papyrus

and I would still see SwapSwap as it's own thing and unrelated to undertale in any way

even if that underswap papyrus had no new personality traits and acted exactly like undertale sans

and SwapSwap sans was based off of that underswap papyrus.

I see SwapSwap sans for what he is

The result of underswap papyrus and Underswap sans swapping.

that's what he is.

and I will forever see SwapSwap as what it's trying to be and is. underswap's OWN underswap.

I will always see SwapSwap as a original thing that is not at all related to undertale.

even if it was based off of Fanon underswap instead of Canon underswap

I will always see SwapSwap as it's own thing no matter what people say.

I've been saying this because it's all a good example of how you should see SwapSwap.

and this example shows SwapSwap could never be undertale. even if SwapSwap was based off of a version of underswap without the 80% 20% thing and with without new personality traits

because as I have just said even if SwapSwap sans was based off of a swap papyrus who is 100% undertale sans and with no new personality traits

I would still say SwapSwap sans has the personality of underswap papyrus

and NOT undertale sans.

no parts of SwapSwap have anything based off of undertale in it.

SwapSwap is meant to be based off of underswap.

it's a underswap au.

Also fun fact there actually is another version of SwapSwap that is based off of Fanon underswap.

Also while SwapSwap is underswap's own underswap it is also undertale swapped twice.

but just because I said undertale swapped twice that does not mean SwapSwap has anything to do with undertale.

SwapSwap is also undertale swapped twice because by trying to be underswap's own underswap it also becomes that.

Because underswap is already a swap au. and it swaps undertale

so that's 1 swap as underswap is a swap au of course

tho if there was another swap au added but it was not the exact same as underswap

it would not count as adding another swap as it's not the same au

like for example you can not say adding TS!underswap onto underswap would be 2 swaps as they are both different aus.

one is the original. and the other one is a take

however luckily as we all know SwapSwap is

LITERALLY underswap's own underswap

So when you add that second swap onto underswap which already is a swap au

that means you have therefore swapped Undertale twice

underswap is swap number 1

and by trying to be underswap's own underswap SwapSwap is the second swap.

so yeah SwapSwap is also undertale swapped twice

but as I have said before that does not mean SwapSwap is related to undertale in any way

Also while yes SwapSwap is a underswap au you could also call it a undertale au too

but it still has nothing to do with undertale.

it being a undertale au is unintentional. and while it is still a undertale au too.

remember. SwapSwap is LITERALLY UNDERSWAP's OWN UNDERSWAP.

it has nothing to do with undertale.

also I'll be putting undertale in the tags but SwapSwap still has nothing to do with undertale.

Also I wanna bring a specific thing someone said to your attention because it's completely and utterly wrong.

No offense to this person by the way.

the thing I'm talking about was something said by someone else but they submitted it to a aynnonymus confession blog.

that blog was @/utdrmv-confession-box if anybody is wondering

I'm not going to link the post or anything. I'll just be quoting it.

now let's start picking this apart and proving the post wrong.

The post says

(*I understand why people don't like SwapSwap, I used to dislike it. but I think that it can be done well

Take Swap Sans compared to classic, they're pretty different from eachother, and it's not just the role they take. If you put Swap in Classic's role he wouldn't just be classic. I think the best way to put it is like a part of the characters didn't come with them when they swapped and stuck onto the character they swapped with, and when you swap them back those parts come with, and a different part is left behind.

If you snap a metal rod in half and the weld it together, it's not exactly the same probably not the greatest comparison but whatever lol.*)

And to all this I have to say.

this person understands literally nothing about SwapSwap. swap sans would not be in undertale sans' role. that would make literally no sense at all.

people usually say stuff like this about SwapSwap because they assume it reverts underswap back to undertale.

when it does not.

because as I have said before. SwapSwap is literally underswap's own underswap.

SwapSwap goes forward.

it adds another swap onto underswap.

which btw why on earth do people call undertale sans classic on this site?. no offense I'm just wondering.

anyway back to the point.

They then claim that quote

*it is like a part of the characters didn't come with them when they swapped and stuck onto the character they swapped with, and when you swap them back those parts come with, and a different part is left behind.*

this makes absolutely 0 sense. there is no such thing as swapping back the characters. also everything else they are saying just makes no sense.

tho what I think

they are trying to suggest is that the underswap cast

quote *swaps back to the undertale cast's personalities and roles but they keep some of their underswap personality too.*

even tho that makes no sense.

the underswap cast do not quote *get swapped back into the undertale cast*

SwapSwap is literally underswap's own underswap it goes forward not backwards.

it adds another swap on underswap. that's adding NOT reverting.

swap aus do not go backwards.

and even if they were not saying swapswap goes backwards

whatever they said is still not how SwapSwap works.

Also I've seen people give SwapSwap a fake name called swapback.

which as I have said before SwapSwap does not swap underswap back to undertale so the name makes absolutely no sense at all.

it's not even a real name that SwapSwap was given

and regardless that's not how SwapSwap would work logically.

there's literally another au out there called revertswap that actually does

revert underswap back to undertale. meaning swap sans indeed does get put into undertale sans' role.

tho the quote *it is like a part of the characters didn't come with them when they swapped and stuck onto the character they swapped with, and when you swap them back those parts come with, and a different part is left behind.*

thing is not in revertswap either because

revertswap keeps ALL of the underswap cast's personalities

but just reverts everything else like the roles and designs and almost everything back to undertale

And it does not swap anything because it reverts. it does not swap.

Also I'm not really a fan of the metal rod metaphor. and when I say I'm not really I fan of he metaphor I actually mean it's straight up wrong.

here's a correct metaphor that explains SwapSwap

So we have 2 apples.

One is red and on the right and the other is green and on the left.

These apples will be called apples C.

Now we will swap them.

Now the red apple is on thee left and the green one is on the right

we will call these swapped apples A.

Now we will swap apples A.

Now the red one is on the right and the green is on the left.

these will be known as apples B

Now considering the fact we are talking about real life things like apples it is true that yes apples C and B are the exact same.

but SwapSwap's situation is different.

it's not a real life thing like a group of apples that you could swap and swap again to the point nothing changes

you're supposed to see SwapSwap as it's own thing.

that's how SwapSwap works

and even if SwapSwap somehow was a real life thing I'd still see it as it's own thing and believe that it has nothing to do with undertale.

because that's how SwapSwap should be viewed no matter what people say.

Also by the way not every take on SwapSwap follows how SwapSwap would work logically.

and also this also applies to previous versions of canon SwapSwap. infact all of the versions were until I explained how SwapSwap actually worked to the

owner of SwapSwap. as due to that the creator

as of the time I'm making this views SwapSwap the way it should be. so that's good. 👍

Also involving the music of SwapSwap it would be based off of underswap's ost. SwapSwap is supposed to be underswap's own underswap after all.

Also you always have to see any and all underswap tracks as original. I'm saying this because well.

if you for example see a underswap track for swap sans that uses the motif from the track sans. from undertale that underSWAP track should still be seen as original and it's own motif. tho a decent amount of people already understand that

Like for example most would see a bonetroulse for swap sans that used the track sans from undertale and would be like

*this is it's own original track.*

But I know some do not understand this.

Also to those that think that the only way to see SwapSwap as it's own thing is to think like undertale does not exist you are WRONG.

you do not need to pretend like undertale does not exist to see SwapSwap as it's own thing that is not related to undertale.

also any coincidences between the 2 are just coincidences. for example

SwapSwap is also chill like undertale sans but remember. SwapSwap sans is chill because he has the personality of underswap papyrus

SwapSwap is supposed to be based off of underswap.

SwapSwap is underswap's own underswap.

oh and before I go. I also wanna say undertale personalties are not accounted for in later swap aus after underswap.

because like I said before aus like swapswap are their own things.

infact it would also be wrong to say that underswap characters have their personalties warped in later swaps AFTER swapswap.

tho it's not warping it's just swapping as swapswap is underswap's own underswap.

I'm saying this because many people see the process of swapping aus over and over as warping the Undertale cast's personality over and over even tho

that's not how it works at all.

Swap stack aus are not meant to warp the personalities of the undertale cast.

also these are swap aus. they do not quote "warp" anything.

The personalities of the SwapSwap cast are based off of the underswap cast

it would not be swapping or warping the personalities of the undertale cast.

And the personalities of the tripleswap cast are based off of the SwapSwap cast.

also if you somehow do not know what tripleswap is it is SwapSwap's own underswap.

also swap stack aus are aus that continue to swap aus that are already swap aus. for example obviously SwapSwap is a swap stack au.

and also the same applies to tripleswap obviously.

the lesson here the theory of swap stack aus "warping" the undertale cast's personalities is wrong. tho that's obvious.

why would swap aus that are based off other swap aus have undertale personalities in it to be swapped. that would make no sense if that was actually how it worked.

also the idea of swap stack aus just constantly swapping the personalities of the Undertale cast would mean

you would not see the SwapSwap cast's personalities as their own things.

or the underswap cast's personalities either which when you are thinking about SwapSwap you are supposed to see the underswap cast's personalities as original

Because if you do not you'll just start saying that the SwapSwap cast's personalities are based off of the undertale cast's personalities

Even tho that's wrong because the personalities of the SwapSwap cast cast are based off of the personalities of the underswap cast.

Also the way I think about SwapSwap also applies to other swap stack aus like tripleswap.

After all tripleswap is SwapSwap's own underswap.

Also I'm choosing to make SwapSwap papyrus also fight you in a project I'm working on because

There is a headcanon that canon underswap sans would not forgive you in a genocide route despite having the personality of underswap papyrus

Note that I said it's a headcanon

because there's no evidence of canon underswap sans NOT being intended to forgive you in canon underswap.

however there is also no evidence to say the headcanon is false because

It was never said that underswap sans would forgive you either.

for all we know it could be canon that he

would hate you in the genocide route just like undertale sans.