#Tw suicide baiting

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[thebibliosphere]

Not sure whose Cheerios I pissed in today, but hoo, boy.

"I hope you die."

Worstie, same. You're not special.

[lycandrophile]

next time someone tries to tell me people don’t demonize and act violently toward trans men and transmascs, i’m just going to make them read this reply i got to a positivity post that was specifically about trans manhood and transmasculinity. this is basically just every negative thing people say no one says about us rolled into one message that’s aimed directly at us.

and as if this isn’t enough on its own, their whole blog is full of this disgusting shit. it seems to be dedicated to it, actually. (fair warning, don’t look at the next two screenshots if you don’t want to see even more genuinely awful transphobia.)

you can say what you want about how they’re probably just a troll or baiting or doing this for attention but the fact remains that, regardless of their true intentions, these are real things that a real person is saying about trans men&mascs, publicly and proudly and to our faces because they want it to do damage.

i’ve dealt with people like this before, on a much closer level. when i was a teenager, i had a grown woman come into my dms just to send me very graphic and detailed instructions on how to kill myself. literally entire paragraphs with all of the steps she wanted me to take. before i blocked her, i told her she was lucky she sent it to me and not someone more vulnerable, because otherwise she might have real blood on her hands. she just sent the whole thing again.

we can argue all day about infantilization versus demonization, erasure versus hypervisibility, what counts as violence, what words we use to talk about our oppression, and so on. but the reality is, whether you believe people want us dead or not, they clearly do, and a lot of them really aren’t making any effort to hide it. at this point, if you can’t see it, it’s because you don’t care about our lives enough to look at the reality that’s right in front of your face.

before you do anything else, block this person. don’t engage with them directly, don’t give them the satisfaction of the attention they might be fishing for, just block them. but don’t forget that they exist either, especially if you’re not a trans man or transmasc yourself. don’t just block them and move on and forget that there are real people out there who will say these things about us, who genuinely enjoy the thought that their actions might have deadly consequences.

because these are the people you empower to come out of hiding and start being blatant about their hatred when you insist that no one wants us dead, when you openly mock us and demonize us and try to cast us out from the community that we were supposed to share. when even our own people decide we’re an acceptable target, these bigots throw a fucking party because you’ve just told them they can get away with murder as long as it’s our blood on their hands. this particular blog was started recently, and i guarantee it’s not a coincidence that they started it in the midst of a rise in online anti-transmasculinity.

it really is telling, how much hate a positivity post has incited. y’all can’t stand when we talk about the bad things that happen to us, but you hate our happiness even more.

[romans-art]

Mrs. "30 Rock" Danvers reporting for duty o7

[freakcliff]

highlights from "pretending to tweet like we're in the iwtv universe" in Armand nation

(just the stuff I've made-- other ppl are doing some hilarious shit @@armand-nation if you wanna check it out)

[sapphic-agent]

Let's Talk About Izuku and Bakugou's Relationship

Happy New Year, everyone! Thought I'd kick 2024 off with a new post. I haven't written an in-depth analysis in a while, so I figured now was a good time.

So, I've touched on this before, many times in fact. If you've seen my other posts, you know that I think that the BKDK relationship is a clusterfuck of codependency, abuse, and toxicity. But I don't think I've ever analyzed it frame-by-frame, so here's an attempt.

Childhood

The lake scene has the most focus than any other flashback in the series. It's meant to show us why Bakugou hated Izuku; he assumed Izuku looked down on him and saw him as weak. It's supposed to support the idea that Bakugou has an inferiority complex that's been present since he was a kid and that's why he lashes out at Izuku and wants to be rid of him. Because Izuku makes him feel weak.

But this isn't true. Or, it doesn't paint the whole picture.

One thing the lake scene seems to gloss over is the fact that Bakugou was always mean to Izuku. Maybe he wasn't as harsh and could be written off as just a kid being a kid, but he still made fun of him. He still went out of his way to make him feel bad about himself and humiliate him. He called him "Deku" way before either of them were (or weren't) given a quirk.

And he only ever did this to Izuku, not the other kids part of his posse. He, even at such a young age, saw Izuku as an easy target, someone he could easily shove around because he knew Izuku wouldn't fight back (this would persist for the next ten years).

It's important to note that there's only one instance where Bakugou's behavior towards Izuku turns violent. It's when Izuku defends a kid that Bakugou and his posse are picking on. This is the moment where Bakugou becomes physically aggressive; not when he found out Izuku was quirkless, during the lake, or any time before. It's here, when Izuku stops being the defenseless wimp who won't stand up to him. He doesn't like that Izuku stepped out of the mold he had confined him to (I'll come back to this later).

The truth of their childhood together is that Bakugou was always inherently awful to Izuku. It wasn't like he experienced one bad moment that flipped a switch, Bakugou liked picking on Izuku from day one.

Middle School

There isn't much to say about their days at Aldera other than it's just a progression of escalation from their childhood. They've settled into their roles as abuser and victim. Bakugou knows he can say and do whatever he wants and Izuku won't defend himself because it's been the status quo for a decade.

He revels in that power he has over him, likes to remind Izuku of his "place." And if he steps out of line, Bakugou exerts that power over him to shut him right down, stressing his inability to do anything about his situation. It's a cycle of abuse.

Deku vs Kacchan Part 1

I've already talked about this scene before, but this is also another example as to what I was alluding to above.

As @delawaredetroit pointed out in a post from a while ago, Bakugou isn't feeling betrayed here. He himself has said time and time again that he and Izuku weren't friends. He cares about the fact that his victim now has power of his own.

All their lives, Bakugou had the power and Izuku was powerless. That was the dynamic they were used to and the one that Bakugou was aware and repeatedly took advantage of. But now, Izuku isn't powerless or defenseless. He no longer fits the mold that Bakugou had tied him to since childhood. That's why Bakugou is so upset; not because Izuku kept something from him but because the power imbalance between was shifting.

And it's why he tries to use guilt-tripping here. He wants Izuku to feel bad, wants to reestablish some of the control over him he just lost. And it works, because Izuku tells him he inherited his quirk completely unprompted after the fact. Bakugou knows he has the power in their relationship and has no issues abusing that power.

Sports Festival

I don't have much to say here, but I would like to point out something very inconsistent concerning Bakugou's interpretation of his relationship with Izuku. He claims that Izuku kept following him around and that he couldn't get rid of him, which attributed to his dislike. But even if that was true when they were 5, it's actually the opposite at least from middle school on.

Bakugou went out of his way to target Izuku in the first chapter/episode. He also tracked him down after the Sludge Villain incident. He's initiated every one of their confrontations in UA. And here, he deliberately eavesdropped on Izuku's conversation with Todoroki.

I don't know whether to call it hypocrisy or ignorance, but Izuku was content to leave Bakugou alone. Bakugou's the one who's constantly harassing and obsessing over him.

Final Exams

Izuku daring to display confidence and competence invokes immediate physical violence in Bakugou. He doesn't like that Izuku is talking to him like he's an equal, he doesn't like that Izuku dares to step outside of his role as a victim. Bakugou wants Izuku to act like he's below him and gets agitated when he doesn't do that. He, in this moment, cared more about putting Izuku in his place than his own grade.

Deku vs Kacchan Part 2

I mentioned that BKDK is codependent in the beginning of the post. This is what I mean.

Bakugou can't cope with the fact that he isn't the best and takes it out on the only target he has. Izuku had nothing to do with his shortcomings, but he still felt the need to establish superiority over him; a grasp for some measure of control.

Like I said above, he's well aware of the power he has over Izuku. Do you think he would have tried this with Todoroki? Or Tokoyami? Or Iida? No, because he knows that none of them would have even dignified him with a response. But he knows he can control Izuku in a way he can't with other people. He feels comfortable treating only Izuku as his emotional and physical punching bag.

The Apology

It's interesting that prior to apologizing for treating him badly, Bakugou proceeds to treat Izuku badly.

This interaction is important because it's their first major conflict after Bakugou's "redemption." We're supposed to be at the point where he's changed. But he still resorts to insults and goading. His first instinct is still to put Izuku down.

I've said most of what I needed to about the apology. But I do want to mention that coming from Bakugou's mouth, it grossly understates what happened during those ten years. Because the abuser is the one telling the story, his transgressions don't seem that bad. He's the one controlling the narrative, so his classmates- Izuku's friends- don't know the full story. They don't know what Bakugou put Izuku through. Bakugou comes off looking sympathetic to their peers by speaking "his truth."

Was this his intention? Probably not as Bakugou doesn't really care what others think about him. But it does raise the point that this is the extent as to how Bakugou sees his past self; as a stubborn, overzealous child and not the abuser that he was

[wilbur-of-the-coven]

fuck you

To the anti-endo who suicide baited us, sincerely, fuck you, I hope you never find peace in life.

because of your inability to simply co-exist my girlfriend had to be pulled out of front and she coughed hundreds of flowers- she’s *comatose* right now, we had to create a GODDAMN hospital to put her on anesthesia so she’d stop coughing up blood and flowers.

Sincerly fuck you so much. You claim you’re defending trauma victims, but guess what? You just traumatized me but all my headmates!

Because you simply couldn’t co-exist with a non purely traumagenic system you decided to tell them to kill themselves?

That is not fucking okay! Alright? It is never okay to tell anyone to kill themselves! No matter what they’ve done.

which in our case? Was absolutely nothing! We simply made a fucking notes post and you thought it was soooooo hilarious if you asked how many notes it’d take to commit suicide!

No! No! It’s fucking not! You have no goddamn shame in your body! Because guess what?

You just told a minor- 3 minors, 1 young adult, 1 adult, A FOUR YEAR OLD, and an age less being to kill themselves! Oh! And we’re bodily a minor too if we forgot to goddamn mention! So even if we were “faking” you still told a minor to kill themselves!

it’s not funny and will never be funny to suicide bate someone. My girlfriend who was the one fronting btw suffers from such strong delusions oh hanahaki that the headspace made it real there.

if our ONLY TWO adults hadn’t been awake and able to pull her from front- which btw 2 other of our headmates had to help with- did I mention the 4 year old was there too?- then she would’ve started to have a coughing fit in real life.

sincerely, *sincerly*, fuck you, we’re not christian but god has a specially low pit of hell for suicide baiters like you.

[captainharlock]

collection of my "ashera is dunban's daughter" content that i'm not too shy to share bc its funny. there will be much more in the future

[pinkinsect]

Heartwarming: Multicultural Couple Teaches Each Other About Suicide Baiting

[justanapparatus]

the fact that suicide baiting is becoming an increasingly popular way to harrass people online when we are experiencing unprecedented levels of mental health crises and a gun violence epidemic is so horrifying. I really think people think this is just a normal way to disagree with someone without seeing the very real tangible consequences that can come from encouraging someone to kill themselves. but I promise you if there is even a tiny part of you that has considered that before, having a stranger on the internet tell you to do it rips that wound wide open. there is no excuse or justification for that kind of behavior.

[thebibliosphere]

I used to have a lot of patience for explaining why authors still use KDP despite hating it.

And then people started sending me weekly messages telling me to kill myself for enabling Jeff Bezos to go to space, and somehow, I don't know, I just lost that patience.

Can't fathom why.

[samuraisharkie]

sorry

you’re not forgiven! get some fucking help! Not even at my lowest possible point of my own breakdowns in life would I have ever done this. You need to throw your phone and electronics in a lake. What a half assed apology compared to this too. Just a singular ‘sorry’?? What if I hadn’t been someone that had made the decision to never again attempt? Would you deliver that same ‘sorry’ to my friends and family? If I had taken your cruelty as my final reason to stop trying? It’s one thing when ur fucking joking or some shit, it’s another to do what you did to someone you KNOW is already struggling with mental health. I don’t care that you’re going through a similar problem, absolutely nothing excuses your behavior. I’ve never known one person in my life that’s had a breakdown and attempted to suicide bait someone over it. You are a cruel person and you need to get help to stop your behavior now before it’s too fucking late. But you will never find forgiveness from me. You’ll just have to live with that. You need to get help now. I rarely ever suggest this bc it’s similarly traumatic, but if you genuinely can’t control that, you may need to think about calling the hospital. Admit yourself and stay there until you’re out of the danger zone. Just never fucking do this again.

[antiendovents]

tw: suicide baiting, suicide mention, bad ex, fake claiming,

went to join a system server I found on tiktok and my ex who told me that I'd be better off dead and

all my friends should k*ll themselves was there and complaining about an ex

that "was faking did for attention and had a Hazbin fictive before watching the whole show"

and we knew they were talking about us and it made us so sad

:(

we left so we didn't make a scene but we really wanted to make new friends!!

-noodle

awh, I'm really sorry that happened. You didn't deserve that. You aren't better off dead, and your friends definitely should not kill themselves. And you aren't faking for attention. Introjects aren't controllable and can form at any time, even when you haven't actually watched the show or finished watching it. Your ex is stupid and I'm so sorry you have to deal with someone like that. They suck. I hope you manage to find a safer space where you can make friends, real friends.

[mothy35]

[urdarlingangel]

why do anti-endos think tellin ppl to kys is a valid way of addressin endo beliefs? this is like. the THIRD ask i have gotten from anti-endos tellin me to kms. i'm kina tired of it atp

they r literally the cult that is groomin children into self diagnosis i don't see how WE'RE a cult for wantin people to healthily express themselves without connectin their plurality to a disorder

edit: syscourse tag removed! more mfers came from that tag nd gave me shit for it! i'm not here for syscourse, i'm here to be myself. leave me tf alone anti-endos. dnis go both ways

[nat-stimmy]

haii!!! actual lesbian here! you can't be both bi and a lesbian! lesbian means non men that like other non men! ur a non lesbian so you should go kys!!!! ^-^

because we all know what you mean, you don't see us trans girls as woman so you say that bi lesbians exist because you're scared of us transbians!

now go fuck off! your carrds aren't valid sources and lesbians have never liked men!

-From, an actual lesbian <3

fascinating. do you tell everyone you disagree with to kill themselves or am i just special?

it's also really cool how you're putting words in my mouth. bi lesbian as a label has nothing to do with being "scared" of transbians and i'd love to see your source for that claim.

and carrds might not be valid sources, but what about Vintage Queer Literature and newsletters?

Like this newsletter from 1984 talking about bi lesbians being integral to the lesbian community? (oh look at that, it also talks about how Some Lesbians treat them terribly! not much has changed, huh?)

Or perhaps this excerpt from Lavender Woman, which talks about bi lesbians all the way back in 1973?

Whoops I dropped this Google Doc full of vintage mentions of bisexual lesbians! Clumsy me! This one also talks about the awful and inaccurate "non-man loving non-man" thing a little) Here's a Masterpost on the history of the term (with cited sources)

I would also like to point out that multigender lesbians exist and that means sometimes a lesbian is also a man. Sorry! You can't just go "lesbian means non-man loving non-man" without excluding tons of butch lesbians and trans lesbians who personally identify as partially men. Did you forget that bigender people are like... real? Genderfluid people? (And before someone tries to imply that I'm implying that binary trans women are "partially men" or something, that's not what i'm saying and you know it. I'm talking about people who personally identify themselves as being both male and another gender)

tl;dr you have drunk the lesbian separatism kool-aid and need to log off because telling people to kill themselves and accusing them of being transmisogynistic with zero proof is abhorrent behavior + if you saw the butches im friends with you'd hurl