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The Dowager Queen Alicent of House Hightower, second wife of King Viserys I and mother to his sons, Aegon, Aemond, and Daeron, and his daughter Helaena, died on the same night as Lord Westerling, after confessing her sins to her septa. She had outlived all of her children and spent the last year of her life confined to her apartments, with no company but her septa, the serving girls who brought her food, and the guards outside her door. Books were given her, and needles and thread, but her guards said Alicent spent more time weeping than reading or sewing. One day she ripped all her clothing into pieces. By the end of the year she had taken to talking to herself, and had come to have a deep aversion to the color green. In her last days the Queen Dowager seemed to become more lucid. “I want to see my sons again,” she told her septa, “and Helaena, my sweet girl, oh…and King Jaehaerys. I will read to him, as I did when I was little. He used to say I had a lovely voice.” (Strangely, in her final hours Queen Alicent spoke often of the Old King, but never of her husband, King Viserys.) The Stranger came for her on a rainy night, at the hour of the wolf.
Fire and Blood (George R. R. Martin)
#ASoIaF#Fire & Blood#valyrianscrolls#ch: Under the Regents: The Hooded Hand#Alicent Hightower#V#GRRM#books#quotes#Greenies stans will shit themselves.#Sure it's tragic here#but this is Alicent facing consequences of her actions.#Poetic justice and all.#anti Greens#just to be safe
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I love how Poseidon’s lesson about ruthlessness turned from something he was imposing to something he was trapped in.
When Odysseus says, “we’re both suffering, why not leave this here?” he doesn’t say “I won’t,” he says “I can’t.”
I wish in six hundred strike Ody would have used the line “the next time that you dare choose not to spare” or any callback to “remember them” because it would have been such a good loop. Such a good way to say to Poseidon that there could have been another way. But instead, he’s stuck here of his own doing, with this monster of his own making, being tortured over and over again. Because ruthlessness isn’t mercy. It’s damnation.
#maybe showing one act of kindness#leads to kinder souls down the road#ody only had to be a monster bc everyone around him was#thats what makes a tragedy tragic#it didn’t have to be this way!!#(im sure the circe callbacks are obvious in my analysis here)#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#the odyssey#odysseus#poseidon
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in honor of TF2's sweet sixteen and repostober, one Pyro from just about six months ago 👍
@friendlyengie since i heavily referenced off your pyro here! Hope you don't mind me tagging you, your stuff is cool and I'm a big fan of your femfortress designs especially :]
#peridots-art#pyro tf2#tf2#bugs#to this day i have still not drawn more than a doodle of any other merc. which is weird since pyro isn't even my favorite just fun to draw#don't have much to say here since. y'know. made this in april. i still don't know yet if i'm ever gonna play tf2 (and besides i still have#a few uninstalled games in my steam library to get to. portal outer wilds and disco elysium i'm coming for you) and i'm kind of losing the#fixation on it now but i'm sure whatever i do it'll be fun :]#also this came long before i saw someone interpret them as a bot. which is an a+ headcanon to me. also i think they'd be any pronouns#obviously i just needed to write the id too fast to mix it up :tragic:
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Ghost Groom Guy my beloved <3
#demondoodles#my art#the groom of gallagher mansion#elias gallagher#tgogm#TW Decapitated Head#TW blood#Woo boy#it him#finally djkensk#listen i love this game sm but like for some reason its hard for me to draw him properly sksnsks#he's just a guy with tragic backstory and sick design how can i NOT#anyways yeah its been a time for sure lol but here he is#also woah demon you're drawing a proper background!?! amazing 👏#I just had to#he's my pathetic meow meow/j#anyways have art I'll be gone for the foreseeable week playing KH ✌️#lineless art
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Laughing crying choking on my tears why am I constantly haunted by the thoughts of all these tragic little gay men I just want then to be okay for once yet terrible things always happen why they just need to be in each others arms and in my arms I need to comfort them why because they're tragic little gay men and they're stuck in my head and consuming my every waking thought and I'm not okay because they're not okay.
#externally screaming because of all these tragic little gay men living in my head#and by tragic little gay men i mean tma wtnv and malevolent#i just want to give him a hug and a warm blanket#and like some good tea#jon and martin. i just. be okay. please.#arthur and john and also oscar. not sure which ship i like the most but can they all just be okay. im begging you.#and then we have cecil gershwin palmer and the love of his life carlos scientist. theyre the healthiest couple of them all.#they even have the most cannon fluff but. i need to hug them. i need to know theyll be okay.#and why is it that sll my fav gay men always experience#The Horrors™#i just need them all to be okay and happy and safe#tma#the magnus archives#jonmartin#let's see here... tma... malevolent... wtnv......#pattern spotted (aka im not okay fandom-wise)#anyways.#cecil x carlos#cecilos#wtnv#welcome to night vale#malevolent#malevolent podcast#jarthur#arthur x oscar#john x arthur
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You have a funny way of showing it
#roman reigns#jey uso#the usos#wwe#wweedit#wanna know what the worst part is?#in roman's fucked up brain he DOES love jey#or what he currently believes love to be anyways#and he's also terrified because he's seen it here#just like he saw it in sami at wargames#he knows jey is a hair away from leaving him#so now does he pull the trigger first#or does he risk being vulnerable at a crucial time aka wrestlemania#if he turns on jey before jey turns on him IMAGINE how tragic that'll be for jey#knowing he had multiple chances to leave roman but never took them#also this version of roman is the greatest villain in wrestling history don't @me#vince mcmahon is often referred to as the best heel in wrestling but does it even count when you're a villain irl too???#ooooh i feel woozy now#p sure i just made myself sick making this set#stuff i made
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had this thought rotating in my mind since arthur had to wear that Anti-Sun disguise. and well. now u see it too
#OH might aswell put this here too#this time CROPPED CORREECFTLLYYYYYYY#ANYWAy i have a whole doodlepage made up of just stupid fuckin arthur comics like this. i just really love him so so so much#HES SO TRAGIC AND SAD AND ROMANTIC but also hes ridiculous. hes so funny. ouh my god.#will today be a 'ramble abt arthur bennet' day. im not sure yet. if it is ill come back to these tags and gut myself#ALSO MY LAST POST STIll stands if u wander into my askbox w a jrwi series n a dream i may share w u a WIP ill never fucken poast#ooouuhooohhh i also take Gentle Requests w a firm NO PROMISES promise. u may influence my actions vaguely#and that is a DIVINE POWER IN YOUR HANDS BOOYYYYYY. TO CHANGE THE WORLD IN SUCH GRAND WAYS.#HAHA HEY IM BACK TO RAMBLE. just a little. anwyay remember when arthur was looking for a hat to wear and chose a cowboy hat#for some reason. hey remember when they were sayin somethin abt how a blood bond makes u think abt the bonder alot.#i had a point here but then my brain went 'the bonderrrrr' and now ive lost my trrain of thought. anyway i hope deacon and arthur f#ight again i hope they fight eachother again. and then mack on eachother crazy style. hey what was that thing deacon was hiding in th cabin#remember that guy he had locked up in there. the guy that said 'help me'. what was that about
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idk if this makes sense. but i kind of love that the last of us makes me cry and viscerally FEEL true emotions on a weekly basis. like i cant remember the last tv show i watched that had me consistently bawling my eyes out and so immersed in a show because of the characters, the story, the incredibly strong writing, etc. and it doesn't feel manipulative. it just feels profound and beautiful and poetic but also tragic and... human.
#it's a whole spectrum of emotion!!! it's beautifully tragically human!!!! is that not what it is to exist!!!!#and it's therapeutic honestly. to spend like an hour in a world that isnt real but that you can relate aspects of your life to.#and you can just connect to these characters and their experiences and release the emotions that have been building up inside.#i'm sure that if you've played the game you feel this all the more strongly#but as someone who hasn't and went into tlou without prior knowledge#i'm just very pleased with it and idk i love watching a show that can elicit such a strong reaction from me#granted i AM what people would call 'sensitive' and 'emotional' or whatever#but even for me i dont think i've felt quite this intensely about a show - especially not right away during a first season#these are just my half baked thoughts and i definitely could say so much more but i'll leave it here for now#sameera.txt#the last of us
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#p4#p4g#persona 4#persona 4 golden#hanamura yosuke#yosuke hanamura#ok i love seeing the IT gang up on him its my soft spot#but also this is the kind of scene i was talking about prev#about how dunking on your friends is itself intended to be a demonstration of your closeness#yosuke's trying to make teddie feel better about himself but then he ends off his remarks with a joke#as he tends to do to diffuse tension! by being light hearted and playful#im not sure if naoto was intentionally playing into the joke here considering how new into the team they were but rise definitely was#i think a lot of Yosuke's jokes tends to take on the tsukkomi-and-boke kind of routine.#although yosuke frequently plays the tsukkomi/straight man by calling out his friends' weird logic during comedic scenes#in this scene i think rise (and naoto)'s quick reaction is very similar a tsukkomi follow up#so its not just a matter of ribbing on yosuke but also them knowing his humour well enough to follow up#and that makes me so happy because the more tragic more isolatory thing. would be for him to he ignored entirely.#he's good with his queue
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LIES: Palestine is murdering civilians.
TRUTH: Palestine is expelling occupiers.
LIES: Palestine is attacking Israel.
TRUTH: Palestine is standing upon its rights in its own lands.
LIES: Hamas is giving Israel reasons to attack them.
TRUTH: Israel has already been attacking Palestinians without a reason for years. Every resistance counts and weakens Israel.
LIES: Israel is the victim.
TRUTH: Israel is suffering for its sins for the innocent children they have killed.
#free palestine#palestine#and here we are seeing hypocrite peoples posts and how Palestinians are wrong and terrorists#do you even know what you are talking about do you even know the history of these lands#i am sure that you don't bc if you did you wouldn't even dare to open your dirty mouth#it is very tragic how the whole world was playin 3 monkeys when israel was attacking and bombing and killing and raping Palestinians#none of you gave a shit#none of you said a word#ever since i know myself there was pain and blood and tears in Palestine#and the couse was always isarael#ever since i was a kid i protested israel in meetings and press briefings#i have seen the pain of my muslim sisters and brothers i have heard their screams for help#and now this shameless people coming here and saying Palestinians are wrong and they should have picked a more peaceful methods#hah don't make me laugh#what peace are you talking about#whose peace would be a better question actually#why is it okay when muslims are hurting and wrong when others are????#there is hell for israel#it is the only place they can go after all#the bottom of the hell
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sorry man. the cloak's hers now. you gotta get a new one
#no way back is here#needless separation is here#slinky is here#She experiences what it’s like to get education#anyway. end of an era. Tragic moment for all tje homosexuals . but im sure the real ones will still stay for cloaked wayback
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is this a safe space to say i considered (and still do) the possibility that glamfreddy was the one that tore glambonnie apart
#this isn’t even just on beckory shit#it’s like genuinely thematically satisfying and tragic#and lines up with things like ‘she brought me here’#i just think the monty answer is too easy and out of left field. like why would i care that the rando new animatronic is a dick#love him but it’s true#i’m sure they’ll go with the easiest solution but it’s fun to think about#fe rambles#glamrock freddy#glamrock bonnie#video games#five nights at freddy’s
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Being so determined that Sam survived the events of last week’s episode, reading this before I started had me do a double take
#was so sure I was about to be proven so wrong#but it’s alright guys it was just a different tragic separation of a couple#no foreshadowing to be examined here haha#tmagp spoilers#the magnus protocol spoilers#tmagp 29#tmagp#the magnus protocol
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Pete didn't realize he was holding his breath until Vegas slightly moved in front of him. He was too focused on what was in Vegas' hands, stretched in his direction for Pete to apparently take.
A gift, Vegas called it. Pete couldn't understand.
"Vegas. What are those?"
It was a stupid question to ask, but Pete couldn't help it.
Vegas' grip tightened around the bouquet. "Isn't it obvious? Flowers," he replied hastily, the pitch of his voice higher than normal. "Do you not like them?"
He was nervous. On edge. It explained some things, but not everything. Pete had to know. He had to figure out what was going on.
"Did something happen at the compound?"
Vegas had been at a meeting with Porsche all evening. He had seemed fine upon returning home, but then he suddenly interrupted Pete who had been washing the dishes and pulled out a bouquet of yellow roses from his backpack and he offered them to him with a warm smile on his face, somehow expecting Pete to not grow suspicious of the gesture.
"Why do you think something happened at the compound?" Vegas asked and his tone of voice made Pete finally raise his head to look at him.
Vegas looked hurt. His eyes were glassy, his breathing uneven. He was going to cry soon if this conversation continued. Pete didn't want that.
"I... just... Vegas, we can go to our bedroom if you want-"
"Fuck, Pete, it's not about that," Vegas groaned and threw the bouquet on the dinner table. He ruffled his hair harshly and muttered something Pete didn't hear. Probably calling himself a failure, as always.
"Has nobody ever given you a present before?" he shouted two seconds later, returning his attention to Pete, who could feel his eyebrows furrowing as he was staring back at him.
All Pete could do at the moment was utter the first thing that came to his mind.
"No? Why would they need to?"
Seeing the change in Vegas' demeanor made Pete come to a second realization then; that was the wrong answer to give.
#ok so a couple of points here#1. I don't remember if it was yellow roses that Vegas gave to Porsche in the extra story but we'll pretend it was#I won't have only BOC give me parallels between Porsche and Pete in regards to Vegas ok? I'll create my own too#2. I'm sure Pete has received gifts in his life - his grandma is right there to give him all the love nobody else did#but we'll suspend our disbelief here a little bit for this to become a little more tragic thank you#I just had an amazing discussion this morning about this topic and I wanted to explore it#Did I do a good job? eeeeeehhh#but yeah anyway good job Pete dear 10/10#(Also this scenario can fit into the instances that Pete is the one who hurts Vegas emotionally and not the other way around)#(It can happen people!! Outside of sex too!!)#(And I'll be here to scream about it thank you)#vegaspete#yu is writing#I managed to write words 🥹 Someone be proud of me hahahah
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given that seems to be the new popular take in the fandom at large since totk got out: let the record show that I'll gladly let myself get repeatedly manipulated by the wind waker speech and be foolishly moved by its implications over rejecting space for humanity and vulnerability in the monstrous and the dispossessed, and then feeling weirdly smug about severing that fleeting attempt at connection and deem it obviously insincere
#tloz#wind waker#ww#ganondorf#zelda fandom critical#it's just not even nice for the writers?#like they obviously tried something here#it's thematically resonant with the rest of the text#you don't have to connect with it personally of course#the complexity of a genuine cause being taken over by self importance and cruelty and what is owed to whom in the bloody aftermath#but to reject that it tried to touch upon something ambiguous and complicated is a shame in my opinion#voluntarily depriving yourself of depth sure is a move I don't understand#(the youtuboys of the world are just *so smug* about this and I find it... kinda tragic modern nintendo seems to agree with them)#(not to mention... seeing a guy coded as foreign going “hey I was sick of having nothing and wanted more for myself” and going)#(“!!!! that's manipulative and illegitimate and deserves no sympathy whatsoever” is a questionnable gut reflex to cultivate in my opinion)#(yearning for a privilege ganon could only ever access through submission can *absolutely* coexist with tyranny and selfishness)#(and isn't that layered and complicated and unfair to everybody involved?)#(doesn't that make for MUCH richer conflict than “he lied because he was greedy for power”?)
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Hi so me being me I've decided to hyperanalyze the conversation Qrow and Raven had in Higanbana practically line by line bcus I have Many Thoughts and this is the best way I can think of to get them all out. If you can't tell I'm absolutely obsessed with these two. Btw.
Thanks to the RWBY wiki for providing transcripts for every episode, otherwise I definitely would have missed smth despite having just watched this scene recently lol
I put it under the read more for easier scrolling due to how long this post got!
I immediately noticed smth in the very first lines of the interaction:
Raven: "Hello, brother." Qrow: "...Raven."
You'll notice throughout the whole conversation that Raven never calls Qrow by his name, only condescendingly referring to him as "brother" this one time and never calling him anything else. Meanwhile, Qrow directly refers to Raven a total of three times throughout the conversation, and only one doesn't call Raven by her name (which we'll get to shortly)
On the other hand, Qrow doesn't bother with even so much as a greeting beyond simply stating Raven's name
It's different ways of communicating their distance. While Raven holds her relationship with Qrow over his head — never once, even outside of this scene, does she call him "brother" with affection iirc, only derision and condescension — Qrow doesn't seem to rly know how to greet her. He hesitates before saying her name and approaching her, as if trying to assess the situation before acting
Qrow: "So, what do you want?" Raven: "A girl can't just catch up with her family?" Qrow: "She can, but you're not. Now how 'bout we get on with it? Unless you plan on keeping these [drinks] comin'."
Again, Raven seems to bring up her familial ties with Qrow as a tactic to get him to do what she wants — in this case, stick around to talk to her despite him not seeming to rly want to. Frankly, it feels manipulative. We're gonna put a pin in this for now and come back to it in just a moment
Additionally, Qrow already knows that Raven's not just here for a friendly chat between two siblings, and sees right thru her facade that it is. Raven is here bcus she wants smth from him. But interestingly, it is Raven in V5 that says, in an almost frustrated/disappointed tone, "Family. Only coming around when they need something." There's another pin; keep both in mind
Raven: "Does she have it?" Qrow: "...Did you know Yang lost her arm?" Raven: "That's not—" Qrow: "Rhetorical question, I know you know. It's just obnoxious that you'd bring up family and then carry on like your own daughter doesn't exist." Raven: "I saved her." Qrow: "Once. Because that was your rule, right? Real 'Mom of the Year' material, sis."
Qrow dodges Raven's question about the Relic and instead brings up her hypocrisy in how she treats family. And it's a good point. Here she is lording her siblingship with Qrow over his head while simultaneously defending and upholding her rule that she is only obligated to help her own daughter a single time. Another pinpoint on our little conspiracy board
Also, here's the one time in this conversation Qrow refers to Raven as "sis". Like Raven's use of "brother", Qrow's use of "sis" is very pointed and with intent. But it's not to manipulate Raven, it's a snarky jab meant to rly hammer home Qrow's point
Raven: "I told you Beacon would fall, and it did. I told you Ozpin would fail, and he has. Now you tell me. Does. Salem. Have it?" Qrow: "I thought you weren't interested in all of that." Raven: "I just want to know what we are up against." Qrow: "And which 'we' are you referring to?"
A few things of note here. At some point in the past, Raven expressed an outright disinterest in Ozpin's inner circle, at least to Qrow. Qrow also feels excluded in the "we" Raven mentions being against Salem. To me, there seems to be a distinct possibility here that it wasn't that Raven felt personally disinterested in Ozpin's operations, but that she somehow felt excluded and feigned a lack of interest in order to protect herself. An idea that is further supported in my eyes by the following dialogue:
Qrow: "You should come back, Raven. The only way we'd beat her is by working together. All of us." Raven: "You're the one who left. The tribe raised us, and you turned your back on them." Qrow: "They were killers and thieves." Raven: "They were your family." Qrow: "You have a very skewed perception of that word."
And there it is. Raven's problem is laid out here for us, loud and clear: She feels like she was the one abandoned, not the one running away. She says it outright! "You're the one who left." To her, Qrow is the traitor, the one who left their family behind. If you ask Qrow (or, for that matter, Tai, Yang, and even Summer based on the scene in V9), it's the opposite
Bcus they have different definitions of family
Another thing to pin (I promise this will all become clear soon)
Raven: "I lead our people now. And as leader, I will do everything in my power to ensure our survival." Qrow: "I saw. The people of Shion saw, too." Raven: "The weak die. The strong live. Those are the rules." Qrow: "Well, you've certainly got someone strong on your side. I've seen the damage." Raven: "We couldn't have known the Grimm would set in as quickly as they did." Qrow: "I'm not talking about the Grimm. And I'm not talking about you, either."
Notice Raven's shift from "the tribe" to "our people". More of that guilt tripping!
Additionally, Raven is *obsessed* with rules. One save. The weak die, the strong live. Raven lives and breathes rules, even seemingly arbitrary ones. Guess what this is? Another pin!
Raven: "If you don't know where the Relic is, then we have nothing left to talk about." Qrow: "I don't know where the Spring Maiden is, either, but if you do, I need you to tell me." Raven: "And why would I do that?" Qrow: "Because without her, we're all going to die." Raven: "...And which 'we' are you referring to?"
Qrow's "either" here implies that he also doesn't know where the Crown of Choice is, which is... interesting. He's one of Ozpin's closest lieutenants, and is in the dark on where Beacon's Relic is? Wherever it is, it is such a closely kept secret that even Ozpin's best spy doesn't know where it is (maybe so that in the event Qrow gets captured by Salem he can't be forced into giving her the information?)
Meanwhile, Raven's "And why would I [tell you]?" implies that she does know who the Spring Maiden is (obviously. Raven's the Spring Maiden lol) but refuses to disclose to Qrow
A lantern sputters out after Qrow says "Without [Spring] we're all going to die." Now, I genuinely can't remember if this is headcanon or canon, but iirc Misfortune seems to act up when Qrow's upset. He's clearly tired of this little game of dancing around topics that Raven's been playing with him
And once again, Raven indicates a feeling of exclusion from Qrow's life in the iconic final line. She gets the final word in before leaving
We've finally reached the end of the conversation. Now what does all of this tell us?
And here is where all of those pins I wrote down are relevant. As I mentioned, the twins view family very differently
Qrow's view is pretty obvious: he views family as the ppl in his life who matter most to him. Unlike Raven, he does not view the tribe as family despite the fact that they raised him, disgustedly referring to them as "killers and thieves". It's implied that he was, in fact, neglected and/or likely abused by the Branwen tribe, saying in V6C4, "No one wanted me... I was cursed..." further explaining his distaste for them. Furthermore, despite not being related to Ruby by blood, they clearly consider one another family throughout the series, and he even seems closer to her than he seems to his niece who's actually blood related to him (I personally headcanon that he keeps more of a distance from Yang bcus she reminds him too much of Raven, who he feels abandoned and hurt by, but that's neither here nor there). Bloodlines and debts are secondary compared to loyalty, if they're considered at all. He is obviously furious that Raven only insists on saving Yang once and never directly interacting with her beyond that, despite Raven constantly guilting Qrow over abandoning his so-called "family" of the tribe. And yet. And yet. He still offers Raven a place back in his life, even if only to unite against Salem
Raven's view, to me, has been an enigma for a while. But after hyperanalyzing this conversation, after noting down all of those points of interest, I feel like I've finally cracked the code. Raven views family as an obligation, an exchange that always has an ulterior motive behind it. She seeks out Qrow only bcus she desires smth from him despite showing distaste when someone does the same to her; condescendingly calls Qrow "brother" more than his actual name and calls the tribe their "family" to try guilting him into doing what she wants; and feels fierce loyalty to the tribe but barely interacts with her daughter, only seeming to count one of the two as true family. She views the concept of family with cynicism and seems to feel an obligation to the tribe, as if she "owes" them for raising her
I think the two's perceptions of what defines family are all to do with the way the tribe treated both of them. This crosses a bit into headcanon territory, but as you can see by the above quotes and analysis, I rly don't think I'm just making it up entirely
As I already mentioned, I think it's implied that the Branwen tribe neglected/abused Qrow. In fact, we could probably blame their treatment of him for the deep self-loathing he has due to his "cursed" Semblance. But what about Raven?
Well, it's simple: I think she was abused, too, just in a different way. While Qrow was likely shown and told on a consistent basis that he was unwanted, unloved, undeserving of good things, Raven may have been shown and told she was wanted, loved, and deserving of good things... if she did what the tribe told her. If she repaid them for raising her and her brother, for being her "family". The way she uses her familial ties with Qrow as almost blackmail may be exactly the way the tribe treated her. Her obsession with following rules may stem from the fact that she had to follow the rules the tribe set for her in order to be accepted and deemed worth smth
As for her distance from Yang... honestly, I wonder if Raven is aware that Yang deserves better and keeps her distance as her way of doing that. When Summer confronts Raven in the V9 scene, Raven says, "...You're better at that life. Better than I was." She seems to have a fear and insecurity about being a good family member, a good mother, and maybe that's why she fled. Maybe she was scared of being like her abusers due to how she emulates them as a self-preservation tactic in so many other ways. Not entirely sure about this point tho
And I think too this is why the twins don't rly understand one another. They may have been unaware of the different ways in which the other was treated. Qrow, constantly unwanted and loathed, can't understand why Raven sticks around with the tribe; Raven, who obeyed the tribe and, in doing so, garnered enough of their favor to even eventually become leader, can't understand why Qrow can't just be "good", earn respect, and stay
This dissonance between the two experiences may also be completely intentional on the part of the tribe; abusers will often eliminate their targets' support systems in order to make them completely reliant on the abuser, so it's highly likely that the wedge was intentionally driven between the two siblings so that they could not find support in one another. This would also tie into why the twins seem to feel excluded from one another's lives and abandoned by one another: bcus they were made to feel that way by their common abusers, and did nothing to challenge these assumptions bcus they saw no reason to — and only seemed to keep proving one another right if they did
Which rly has some disturbing implications about how the Branwen tribe works. Like, do they just pick orphaned kids up off the street and abuse them into being perfect little bandits, molded to be of the greatest possible use and discarded if they're deemed worthless? Plus Qrow says his Semblance is how he got his name, which implies that the tribe also renames the kids they scoop up (possibly as a form of control or a way to make sure they can't be tracked down by any remaining family)? Plus there's the whole thing where Qrow and Raven were originally sent to Beacon to learn how to kill Huntsmen, which carries with it the implication that the Branwen tribe grooms literal orphan children into becoming stone-hearted murderers? What. The heck.
And if I'm right, if the Branwen tribe is that severely abusive, then like... wow, no wonder Qrow and Raven are Like That. They're both very deeply hurt people expressing it in different ways
I was considering adding their conversation at the Battle of Haven to this post, but I think that would be better as its own thing. Also I haven't gotten there on my rewatch yet so I may miss some details if I try to analyze it rn; it's better to wait overall methinks
But I have reached the point of my rewatch where we see Weiss and Whitley interact, and I think it would be very efficient to sum up what Qrow and Raven's relationship seems to be by using those siblings as a point of reference. Qrow = Weiss, actively trying to break free from and fight back against their abusers in different ways, while Raven = Whitley, continuing to do as their abusers want and have wanted as a method of self-preservation. Only, unlike Weiss and Whitley, Qrow and Raven have yet to come to a point where they can understand one another. I think that's a good way to briefly summarize the uh. Absolutely massive post this is.
In conclusion, I may have cracked the majority of the Branwen twins' pre-Beacon backstory purely by hyperanalyzing a single conversation. Oopsies
#original post#'hey hira why are you so obsessed with these two—' autism. i hope that answers your question!#ok but srsly. i've genuinely worked rly hard on this post for the past like. 3 days?#i didn't think it'd lead to me deducing all of this about the twins' pasts but here we are lol#this'll probably flop due to the length but like. i don't mind tbh! this is mostly to satisfy my own silly brain [affectionate] anyway#i'm genuinely looking forward to seeing them in v10#since the storyboard for the scrapped v9 epilogue had raven in it#i hope they somehow reconcile and come to understand one another like weiss and whitley did#tho. i have a bad feeling that even if they do it will end in one (or both?) of them tragically dying before the other's eyes#but that's not rly relevant lol#anyhow i am not sry for inflicting you all with my branwen twin brainrot. it will happen again#i'm having sooo many thoughts on this rewatch and they just keep on coming#rwby#qrow branwen#raven branwen#branwen twins#rwby9 spoilers#i hope there's no glaring errors here. i read thru this post multiple times to be sure but it's so huge i may have missed smth irjnfbpbne#character of all time tag
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