#SALS

[martanis]

"So, I think everyone's right to ship away if they want." — CHARLIE VICKERS agrees, ship and let ship! ⊹﹏𓊝﹏⊹ ࣪ ˖ Interview with Eva Carducci

[xx-slug-xx]

If antis are going to start calling anime fanfiction “pedo propaganda”, then I cannot stress enough how important it is to actually learn what real propaganda looks like.

Great example: if your in the US, turn on any service that gives you ads. Sure this works in other countries too though! YouTube, Hulu, or anything else, doesn’t really matter. There’s a pattern I want y’all to look for, it’s the depiction of the upper class. It might look like upper middle class, but that is not where the upper middle class is really at right now considering everyone is constantly struggling financially. In every advertisement I’ve seen, every commercial that try’s to make you buy their product or sign up for something, it’s always depictions of “nice” upper class people. Never the lower class. The actors are always attractive for their age range, their homes are always spotless, and they can afford to live. It depicts the life that most everyday Americans want, and it’s just at the price of buying something. This is the most prominent form of propaganda, and it’s everywhere. Capitalism at the stage it’s at now, in the point of our society where we’re at now, is spreading propaganda in every corner so that we can buy things to be poorer. It’s propaganda because it’s spreading the idea that most Americans belong to the upper class, when most people are lower to lower middle class where the economy is at currently. Even the upper middle class isn’t doing all that great.

If antis are going to complain about propaganda, they need to learn what it looks like. Because it’s not in the form of a stupid fanfic some 14 year old wrote. It’s not in the form of lolisho. It’s not even in the form of a giant flyer on the side of a building that says “racism is good actually!” because that’s way too obvious to convince the general public!Propaganda doesn’t even need to be about spreading something bad either. Ever wonder why queer topics are so big in the US current government right now? Why the Democratic Party really pushes for equality for minorities (not just queer people). It’s bc they are using our own kindness as a way to convince us that “hey the government is your friend actually! Look how much we love you people who belong to minorities!”. They are using a GOOD message against us to gain our trust, never trust the government! They always have alternative motives behind EVERYTHING. That’s propaganda!

“You are not immune to propaganda” exists for a reason, and it means that it hides in every corner of your everyday life. It means that it’s designed to be unnoticeable by the average person. Learn what propaganda looks like, learn how to avoid listening to it the best you can.

[sunnysaystuff]

there. did you see that? I just reblogged a jegulus post. and then...and then I reblogged a jily post.

let it sink in.

it's possible. please STOP throwing hate at people who ship jegulus exclusively (or jily exclusively, except they don't get NEARLY as much hate as the people who ship jegulus exclusively...) !! you're turning off people who ship both jily and jegulus to the fandom on the whole, and even jily!!

(I love jily SO much! I love jily more than I love jegulus, but I really hate what some of the jily fandom has become.)

[arsynnotarson]

this has been in my mind for while

once you create a media online, publicly, specifically with your own characters, they arent your characters anymore. you cant dictate what happens to them.

yes you created them and control canon, but fandom is notorious for being... fandom. you cant tame fandom. they will forever do what they want, because thats what makes it fun.

you can say that people shouldnt ship a child and their father, but dont expect them to follow it. yes, creators can have boundaries on what they dont want to see personally, but they shouldnt control the fans.

if they're well-versed enough in the internet to create content for an audience, they should know when and who to block.

[myfandomrealitea]

It confuses me when people say they're "neutral" on the pro/anti issue. Aside from seeming dismissive, the strange part is that most of these folks actually do share the same beliefs as pro-shippers -- understanding that fiction isn't real, not harassing others over fiction, and being against censorship, etc -- but they don't acknowledge it for some reason? Because by saying that they don't harass other people over fiction and understand that fiction is separate from reality, they are agreeing with pro-shippers.

But then they supposedly don't "care" enough to "pick a side". Alright, so, why are you here? By commenting on pro-ship posts about how neutral you are, you are still getting involved. By saying, "I won't pick a side because [I think the fact that it's a problem in the first place is ridiculous since it's just fiction, come on now,]" you are sharing the exhausted sentiments of pro-shippers! We agree with you. We're also fed up with it!

(Sorry for rambling. Love your blog!)

A lot of it stems from not wanting to be associated with the concept of proshipping that anti-propaganda has perpetrated. The word 'proship' is a massive target on someone's back which has become synonymous for some people with things like pedophile and abuse apologist.

"Not caring enough to pick a side" can often be translated to "I support this one side, but not enough to open myself up to abuse and harassment on its behalf."

It can also be translated as "I support this side, but not enough to spend my time arguing about it with people."

All of which are valid stances to have. I'm friends with people who are both engaged and passive about proshipping.

[coulsonlives]

These are the people behind Digital Circus and Mouthwashing. Bless them omg.

Edit: lots of antis interacting with this post... If you have "proshippers dni" on your blog, this post is about you. These creators are talking about you. Both these creators would be "proship" by definition, as proship means "pro" in favour of (basic english, folks), and "ship", people shipping whatever they want even if you personally hate it.

[clownfessionsofficial]

Someone made a post about how proshippers are urging people with OCD to "act on their urges" and holy fucking shit? As someone with OCD, this sort of assertion makes me physically sick. And they said this to someone who knows literally nothing about proshipping as like,,, an informative thing. The fact that they're just spreading blatant lies about this sort of thing is really disgusting.

As an OCD haver, you disgust me, OP. Your post is disingenuous and evil. Proshippers claim to be a safe place for people with OCD because it is. Nobody is trying to tell people to act on their intrusive thoughts, wtf. That very idea is so gross.

[sals-fluttershy]

I hope the proshipper reading this has a nice day!

[littlemelonberry]

you're not a bad person if you want to make some kind of art inspired by someone else's vent piece. you aren't a bad person if someone else's art, regardless of that art's origin, moves you to create.

even if that inspired art isn't under the same context. even if it's for fun, or for kink, or for whatever "silly" or "lighthearted" or "disrespectful" reason it is created.

your obligations to the original creator stop at plagiarism and ensuring your work is properly tagged.

[barbwritesstuff]

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Gender selectable characters.

Cute, tragic, and bittersweet moments.

A variety of different choices.

Scroll forward and back at any time.

Option to skip already read passages.

A save feature with multiple save slots.

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I hope you like it. 💙

Warning: This game contains mature language.

[skrillien]

this may surprise some people, but the majority of Normal people think that fanfiction- especially shipping fanfiction and double especially queer shipping fanfiction- is weird and gross whether or not there's incest/age gap/it's rpf. it's all "weird fanfiction" to them.

[cyanidepoisoned]

god I hate pro censorship mfs. saw a (sigh) Twitter notif that was someone whining about AO3 getting nuked w proj 2025 (when there are so many different and more pressing issues with proj2025.. that's besides the point) and people in the qrts were like "oh thank god, AO3 is evil" and pointed to a screenshot about its archive warnings for underage characters in explicit fics. like. oh my god. "i hate censorship except for when it's something I don't like" like shut the FUCKKK up. censorship of *FICTION* just leads to more censorship. we're living in a world where *WORKS OF FICTION* containing anything "controversial" are banned because of people like u. god. fake people in the book or TV screen are not real.

[myfandomrealitea]

hey, same person who sent in the ask about pro-ship and 'anti' definitions and such -

(sorry if this is incomprehensible i'm tail end of an all-nighter and my brain is fried lol) thank you, reading through it makes a lot of things make sense, and honestly, I definitely do find myself on the 'neutral' or therefore pro-ship side (as it appears to be), or just that "live and let live" idea. writing a fic about an abusive relationship doesn't make you an abuser or an awful person, and its always been so strange to me how people will say that 'writing it means you are it', to put it loosely. i have my own personal limits in how I like to consume and portray these things, but i literally have zero qualms if someone else's limits and tastes are different than mine because 1) not my business 2) nobody's holding a gun to me head to make me consume their content 3) doesn't mean they're an awful person who ought to be arrested or however some people make it out to be. if someone writes a rape fic that's between them, their audience and the google doc it was written on. it also kinds ties in to the whole idea of censorship and my opinions on it for me, with how vague some people seem to be about it - if you're calling to ban all fics that "romanticize abuse", that itself can be abused to take down the works of queer or disabled people, people who are open about different types of relationships, etc etc. what i'm trying to say is if you try to ban any fic like that, you're probably also going to ban fics of people in poly relationships, or who have an unusual kink that you don't like, because it's vague enough to be able to suppress people. am i making sense here? probably not, but I do hope you get what I'm saying here, sincerest apologies for my incessant rambling.. it's just been a long, long time since I've been able to say these views that I hold (I don't think I ever have, actually. Not to this extent anyway).

thank you, thank you very much. definitely going to be sticking around this blog for a while, I think ^^

What you've described is effectively being pro-ship. However, there's no obligation to use labels. SALS is still a somewhat popular acronym and there is also profiction, which a lot of people are more comfortable with using to describe how they relate to fiction vs reality. Fandom spaces are all down to the individual.

I'm glad I could help you better your understanding, give you a space to speak openly, and I never mind rambling or long messages.

[coulsonlives]

Antis be like:

"This is a very serious crime, fictional incest blah blah. Blah blah blah, blah-blah-blah blah blah."

"Blah!"

[mintedwitcher]

"You can't ship that, it's problematic" I see your argument and I raise you: none of them are fucking real.

I can do whatever the Fuck I want to things that are not real. Fictional characters are not real. They are lumps of clay given to us - the fans - to mold however we want. They are barbie dolls thrown into our sandbox to play with. We decide what they are to us.

They. Are. Not. Real.

Feel free to dislike or even hate certain ships, whatever floats your own boat, I don't care. But you don't get to call shit problematic when it's not a fucking problem to begin with.

[sals-fluttershy]

Being anti ship really shouldn't be this normalised. Calling for censorship and harassing people who make fiction you don't like shouldn't be seen as "normal" at all. Most people get others to call themself 'anti ship' only by claiming that pro shippers are groomers or by claiming that we believe it's ok to abuse people irl. How weak must your argument be that you need to lie about another group to get people to side with you?