#Queer Jaskier
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I completely forgot I booked this in my calander 😭😭
Anyway, Happy Bi/Pan Bard Reveal Day! Exactly one year ago today the continents favorite humble bard Jaskier was revealed to be a woman kisser AND a boy kisser
I remember the whirlwind that day was. For me Pride month started early
go and get some iced coffee or a sweet treat to celebrate 🎉🎉 🩷💜🩵 + 🩷💛🩵
#she speaks#the witcher#witcher#jaskier#joey batey#queer jaskier#the witcher season 3#reddit was mean to me that month#kisses him#radskier
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Like does Joey know how big of an impact a proper well told queer Jaskier storyline will have on us???
Especially BECAUSE he was involved in how the story would be told
I mean
I'm sure he's very aware of the impact of it and how much it will mean to us but like
Does he understand the full extent of it???
I'm so happy, I'm literally tearing up here
QUEER JASKIER ERA LET'S GOOOOOO
#Jaskier#joey batey#The witcher#The witcher s3#QUEER JASKIER#I'M SO DAMN HAPPY#I can't believe we're really winning for once
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on the 12th day of christmas my true love sent to me.. *checks notes* canon queer netflix!jaskier confirmed by a selfcest scene
#the witcher#witcher#jaskier#geraskier#queer jaskier#joey batey#dandelion#witcher netflix#twn#geralt#geralt of rivia#yennefer#yennefer of vengerberg#geralt x jaskier#jaskier x geralt#gerlion#witcher wild hunt#witcher 3#lgbt jaskier#bisexual jaskier#game jaskier#henry cavill#witcher meme#witcher netflix meme#witcher blood origin#s2 jaskier#geraskier headcanon#geraskier fanfiction#geraskier fanart#geraskier fic
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When straight guys complain that having Jaskier be queer is only going to continue to force straight men that are flamboyant, sensitive, a bit feminine, and into arts to continue to have to "contend with gay rumors" all their lives...
Dude, I'm a pansexual woman that's been in a monoamorous relationship with the same man for 17 years...
All my life, I've had to contend with "gay rumors" each time I was in a relationship with a girl, and "straight rumors" each time I was in a relationship with a man.
I get it, it's annoying to have to constantly correct people on your sexuality, because they assume they immediately know what it is based on your physical appearance, your behavior, and/or the people you're dating.
It sucks to have your sexual orientation be invalidated, and have people tell you things like "Well, if you haven't been with a girl for a whole decade, how would you know you still like them? Clearly, you're into men now, and you're just claiming to be pansexual for attention, and to escape your straight privileges!"
Yeah, it hurts, and it is wrong.
We agree.
But sadly, until society finally learns to respect people's right to define their own sexuality without needing to show proof (not that they'd believe it if it doesn't fit their narrative anyway), those poor boys will just have to answer "no, I'm straight" when people ask them if they're gay.
We'll be glad to have you help us fight the source of the problem, by advocating for more queer representation and inclusion in TV shows, movies, plays, etc., to help normalize queerness, and make sure that "being gay, queer, etc." stops being treated as something negative, insulting, or shameful.
Plus, a pansexual character reinforcing the belief that all artistic and flamboyant men are gay is a laughable concept; given that Jaskier is no closer to being gay than being straight. But hey! One step at a time, wouldn't want you getting even more confused...
#Jaskier#The Witcher#Pan Jaskier#Pansexual Jaskier#Sapioromantic Jaskier#Queer Jaskier#Why more#LGBTQ+#representation is needed#Thanks for arguing my point for me boys!#Bisexual erasure#My Posts#My Thoughts
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The tags on this post are so good. Some of my faves:
Weirdly specific but relatable:
I mean they're right:
The affectionately derogatory:
So much thirst (deeply relatable):
And the most relatable tag I've ever seen:
Lemme tell you, it was incredibly hard narrowing down the long list of tags that made me laugh, nod in agreement, or just generally have to immortalise down into just ten.
how much shall we make jaskier pose this season? joey batey: yes
#the witcher#the witcher spoilers#jaskier#joey batey#witcher spoilers#Joey Batey appreciation#bi jaskier#pan jaskier#queer jaskier
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"jaskier isn't gay they ruined his character!!!" actually jaskier was bisexual from the moment he saw geralt across a crowded tavern and slut walked his way across that room like That to talk to him so just jot that down
#we aaaaaaall know that boy was fruity okay#also! he's not gay! he's bisexual or pansexual or queer or whatever the fantasy equivalent of sleeping with aaaanyone#regardless of gender or. species. is#the witcher#jaskier#the witcher spoilers
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Prompt 12
Geralt has a thing for biting. Jaskier has a thing for not looking like a mauling victim the day he performs at a very prestigious court. Geralt agrees he'll hold off on the biting for a few nights, so Jaskier is "presentable." But now he looks unclaimed. He looks like he has nobody that loves him and watches over him. Nobody that can bite him in the heat of passion. Geralt sucks it up and decides that he'll just have to come along to make sure nobody gets any ideas about doing anything to his bard. And so what if he spends most of the night staring longingly at Jaskier's neck like some kind of starved vampire? Who says you get to judge? *grumpy witcher noises*
#fanfiction prompts#geralt x dandelion#geralt x jaskier#geraskier#witcher fanfiction#the witcher#geralt loves his bard!#writing prompts#established relationship#odaxelagnia#Geralt's fangs#plot bunny#kinda spicy but still could be just some funny fluff#possessive geralt (but in a “i have witcher senses and am emotionally constipated” way)#(Not in a “If I see you talking to a single other person i'll kill us both” way)#a little possessiveness is hot#what can i say#i only dig my hole deeper when i reveal my next prompt idea is most likely one i had about werewolves#cant we all just be silly kinky weird queer freaks?#my target audience is technically myself
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What's with those soft, fond, watery sparkly eyes look
Oh, him
Fair point
#the witcher#the witcher season 3#the witcher netflix#geraskier#radskier#radoslav angelov#geralt of rivia#jaskier#julian pankratz#HE HAVE HEM WRAPPED AROUND HIS FINGERS#🥹🥹#queer#happy pride 🌈#the witcher spoilers
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It doesn’t take an intellectual to see that I’m bisexual💕💜💙
We’re getting a canonical bisexual bard! Woohoo!
“I'm gettin' bi Oh yeah, I'm lettin' my bi flag fly Not gonna hide it, not gonna lie I'm a bi kinda guy There’s no reason to be shy My oh my, it's a fact I can't deny I'm bi, bi, bi until the day I die”
Lyrics- Gettin’ Bi from Crazy Ex Girlfriend
#the witcher#witcher netflix#jaskier#it gives me hope that they'll include more queer people as well#i've heard that ciri is bi in the books so that would be very cool
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guyssss do you like my fuckass annotations
#the witcher#geralt of rivia#the witcher dandelion#julian alfred pankratz#jaskier#the witcher books#sword of destiny#they're a qpr your honor#QUEER PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🎉🎉#queer platonic love#❤️#book annotations#annotations#witcher books#books#cw language#spoilers#the witcher spoilers#the fact geralt didnt even get a chance to even fight it 😭😭😭😭
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Something very specific about how Jaskier's bi/pan sexuality was portrayed really resonated with me.
The scene with Vespula when they talk about him having a crush on Radovid...
I am a bisexual femme, married to a woman. I have only had serious, meaningful relationships with women. I have only casually dated, slept with, had crushes on men. My feelings for/attraction to anyone at any given time has never negated my feelings for/attraction to anyone else. For the most part, my partners have understood that. Sometimes, talking about my crush or experiences with one person has even been a kind of foreplay with another person. I don't think I've ever seen that specific thing portrayed before.
Vespula is telling Jaskier all about himself, talking about this crush he has on this other man, whilst crawling into the bed to sleep with him again. She not only accepts his crush on someone else, she playfully teases him about that crush and uses it to flirt with him; all while acknowledging that Jaskier having that crush does not take away from how excited he is to be in bed with her in this moment.
I felt so seen.
I'm not saying this is everyone's bi/pan experience. I'm just saying this is something that was extremely familiar to my own life and I was blown away seeing it depicted.
And i wonder how much of that was Joey Batey's input. The way he talked about avoiding stereotypes and how he had to personally rip the first drafts apart and explain how to handle this story properly, I can imagine how that relationship was originally handled. I can imagine a draft of the script where Vespula addresses this crush and accuses him of not being genuinely into women at all or some other bi/pan erasure bullshit that is all too common with bi/pan characters. It was refreshing to see this portrayal play out. And more than refreshing, it felt like my actual life.
#jaskier#joey batey#the witcher#bi pride#bisexual#pansexual#lgbtqia#media representation#queer characters#radskier#vespula
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HE WROTE A WHOLE ESSAY ABOUT JASKIER'S QUEERNESS AND HOW TO DO IT JUSTICE
I LOVE HIM OMG
I'm so glad Lauren let him have a say in this
It's such a beautiful story so far, so vulnerable, cute and genuine
😭😭😭😭
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU @joeybateyofficial
Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/06/30/the-witcher-joey-batey-hugh-skinner-jaskier-queer/
#Joey batey#Jaskier#Radovid#Radskier#The witcher s3#I'm so happy#I can't#😭😭😭😭#And like this is so fucking nerdy queer and neurodivergent of him
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Today we really get called homophobic /queerphobic for nothing these days.
Because I don't 100% appreciate (without completely hating it, I remind you, I still can't wait to see what Franchaela will give us) the gender change from Michael to Michaela in Bridgerton.
Because I hope we don't change Benedict's romance with Sophie with a man instead, by also changing Sophie's gender for example (although fortunately that shouldn't happen at all).
Because I don't like Rhaenicent (even though this queerbaiting ship doesn't even have a place in the dance of the dragons storyline).
Because I don't like Rhaesaria and I'm firmly against it (it comes out of nowhere and won't go anywhere and what's more it goes against both the character of Rhaenyra who would never cheat on Daemon and that of Mysaria who would never be sincere with Rhaenyra).
Because I don't like the identity and gender problems that the writers attributed to Rhaenyra who in HOTD wants to be a man (seriously, wtf ?), not to mention suddenly inventing her a bisexuality that she actually doesn't have in the original Fire and Blood canon.
The fact of making Jaskier in The Witcher also like men for a plot that serves no purpose ? It doesn't seem to me from what I remember that he also likes men in the books, however I remember that Ciri was on the other hand bisexual ?
So once again, why make a character who isn't queer in the books a character who is queer in the adaptation when you just have to adapt the ones who are queer ?!
Regardless, it kills me to be called homophobic / queerphobic because I disagree with some seriously questionable writing decisions.
Or worse, telling me that I'm homophobic /queerphobic for loving fictional problematic queer relationships... That's still a strong shitty argument.
#queer representation#anti rhaesaria#anti rhaenicent#franchael#franchaela#benophie#julian alfred pankratz#jaskier#cirilla of cintra#princess cirilla#cirilla fiona elen riannon#daemyra#anti house of the dragon#anti hotd#anti hotd writers#anti the witcher netflix#fire and blood#f&b#bridgerton netflix#bridgerton#when he was wicked#an offer from a gentleman#michael stirling#the witcher
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Do you know this queer character?
Jaskier is Sapioromantic and Pansexual, and uses he/him pronouns!
#hoooo boy okay I found quotes from the actor saying both sapioromantic and pansexual so that's what we're going with#even though the sapioromantic part does not seem to be widely acknowledged in fandom it was mentioned specifically by name#someone also submitted polyamorous but I can't find anything about that so lmk if it's true#jaskier#the witcher#witcher netflix#twn#julian alfred pankratz#tumblr polls#fandom polls#poll#sapioromantic#pansexual#he/him#live action#video game#lgbtqia#do you know this queer character
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dear heart
#back in my white wolf/bard feels!#and broken my block woop#geraskier#geraskier art#geralt of rivia#the white wolf#jaskier#julian alfred pankratz#geraskier fanart#the witcher#the witcher art#the witcher fanart#fanart#digital art#queer art#art#happy pride 🌈#geralt x dandelion#the amazing devil lyrics#tad lyrics reference#aonb arts#all-or-nothing-baby
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A celebration of Joey Batey offering TV show writers a pure masterclass on how to write a queer character with a queer audience in mind.
Can I just say how much respect and appreciation I have for Joey, that he went above and beyond in term of queer representation, by bringing some much needed attention towards people on the aromantic spectrum, and making gender a complete romantic/sexual (and even queerplatonic) non-issue?
I mean, imagine that you are part of a show with a young and powerful canonically bisexual lead, Ciri, who is at an age where people might start exploring their own sexuality, slowly figuring out who and what they like, etc.
And suddenly, you're offered to also be playing another queer lead character, with a male love interest - while knowing it will be the very first time that the audience will be officially introduced to the idea of Jaskier being queer...
And, instead of going with the more familiar, and often expected:
"A man that's always been with women before, now finds himself romantically and sexually attracted to a man, and starts questioning his own sexual identity..." coming out story...
You find yourself with a unique opportunity to go a bit further, to explore more specific and lesser known LGBTQ+ themes, and to delightfully surprise your queer audience!
You can take a full dive into the wonderful world of Queerdom, by exploring a different - yet just as equally important and significant - coming out story!
i.e.
"A usually aromantic person, that has always experienced squishes, smushes, and possibly meshes before, finds himself experiencing a (sapio)romantic crush for the very first time, and starts questioning his romantic identity..."
Of course, a lot of people in the audience will probably miss this.
The monosexuals that have been conditioned to believe that gender must always play a role in how one experiences romantic and sexual human attraction - will likely be paying more attention to how Jaskier is showing an interest in a man.
People that are used to equating "falling in love" with "romantic attraction", might miss the significance and importance of Vespula specifically using the word crush to refer to Jaskier's current attraction towards Radovid.
People that typically see non-gender-related orientations as "mere preferences", or have simply never heard of them, might miss how Jaskier goes on and on about how "emotionally intelligent and insightful Radovid is" , with a look of vulnerability and wonder, putting emphasis on how different he feels about him.
People that were taught to see emotional relationships according to the "platonic vs romantic" binary - with a strict idea of what each means and implies - may not be familiar with what queerplatonic relationships are, and will interpret Jaskier saying that he loves Geralt "platonically" as meaning that he's not as deeply and strongly in love with him as one might usually expect a romantic partner to be.
They'll be unaware that there are committed life partners out there - that would go to the end of the world for each other and perhaps even share sexual intimacy together - that don't have any romantic feelings for each other whatsoever.
Romance does not mean "being in love", romance means "being in love in a romantic way".
And it is not the only way.
To aromantics and greyromantics - and even to romantic people that also have the capacity to fall in love in non-romantic ways, such as yours truly - queerplatonic and alterous relationships aren't "lesser than" romantic ones, they are different.
And Radovid... is different.
Radovid is no better, nor worse, than a hammer...
But he's a spoon.
He's a romantic connection that is completely new, exciting and intriguing to explore for Jaskier!
According to Joey Batey, as a sapioromantic panromantic pansexual, Jaskier finds himself developing a strong sapioromantic and sapiosexual connection with Radovid.
Jaskier is representing people that aren't romantically or sexually affected by a partner's gender in the way that they experience sexual atttraction, and people that experience a lot of tertiary attraction when falling in love, while very seldom ever being able to love others in a romantic way (sapioromantics / greyromantics... ).
Jaskier is a queer character that was truly created with a queer audience in mind!
He was created so that all of us that don't see or experience love according to the platonic vs romantic binary.
All of us that are hyperaware of those other forms of attraction (tertiary, aesthetic, sensual, etc.) that one can experience for another human being.
All of us that don't see or experience romance or sexuality as something that ties into their partner's gender.
Could finally see themselves in a character on screen.
Of course, you still need characters that experience their sexuality while feeling like the gender of their romantic and sexual partners matters - including those that love all genders... Desperately so!
First, because all members of the queer community matter and are equally as important and valuable. Rejoicing over Batey diving into lesser known and familiar representation doesn't mean that familiar and better known representation should not be encouraged and celebrated as well!
This is not a "there should be less gay character on TV to make room for more aromantics and asexuals instead" post.
This is a "we need queer identities people are less familiar with in addition to proper gay, lesbian and bisexual representation" post.
And second, because you still need characters that don't stray too much from the platonic v.s. romantic binary, too - and the usual social conventions tied to romance and sexuality - so that non-queer audiences can more easily connect, and empathize with, the queer community.
Because, when the existence of bisexuality already is something that monosexual people often have a hard time understanding, acknowledging, or even believing in...
Well, going:"By the way, I'll have you know that you can totally want to have sex with, live, and raise children with someone you've got platonic feelings for, too!"
You might accidentally lose them.
And if you try to explain that some people are unable to romantically connect with anyone, unless they get specifically attracted to their intellect (often combined with their aesthetic looks)!
That's likely going to be even worse!
And this is where Batey's pure genius comes to light.
Because he's just shown that you can find a beautiful and organic way to explore queerness more in depth - totally stepping away from the usual relationship conventions and specifically addressing your queer audience - simply by using a vocabulary that said queer audience will understand and connect with.
You can make it clear that the character is on the greyromantic spectrum, by having Vespula state that she's never ever seen him with a crush before!
You can put the emphasis on him being more specifically sapioromantic, by having him dreamily go on about how Jaskier perceives Radovid's intellect.
And, if Batey is to be believed - and he's been exploring the idea of Jaskier being queer since the very beginning of the show (without any clear response from the writers or producers regarding Jaskier's sexuality) - then, by making it clear that he loves Geralt platonically in Season 3, he's also allowing us to revisit all the scenes between Jaskier and Geralt from Season 1, while enjoying them through an aromantic lense.
Someone on the aromantic spectrum watching that scene might thus find themselves deeply connecting with the strong platonic squish (although it could also be a mesh) that Jaskier immediately experienced the very first time he saw Geralt...
You can see Jaskier as specifically believing himself to be Geralt's best friend in the whole wide world, and instinctively reading into Geralt allowing him to physically/sensually touch him (rubbing chamomile onto his lovely bottom) as him possibly desiring a queerplatonic connection with him also.
And, the scene where he's suggesting to Geralt that they could get away for a while, head to the coast together...
Where he mentions that life is too short not to do what pleases you, and admits that he's trying to work on what pleases him...
Look, the fact is that there's always been aromantic and greyromantic people experiencing tertiary forms of love and attractions for other people long before we had any words to put on those emotions, desires and needs.
So, it's rather easy to see Jaskier as someone that is experiencing a powerful alterous attraction for his best friend, and realizing that what pleases him the most, is the idea of them sharing a queerplatonic or alterous relationship together...
It makes sense to interpret what Jaskier is saying as him trying to express and articulate the love he feels for Geralt the best he can - implying that Geralt is what pleases him - while trying to ask Geralt if he also feels the same way...
Sadly, Geralt doesn't quite get it; likely because he's also romantically and sexually attracted to Yennefer and, when he loses her, instinctively throws all his own hurt and heartbreak at Jaskier - blaming him for everything that (he believes) lead to that loss!
And just because the break up Jaskier experienced wasn't a romantic one doesn't make it any less devastating.
Poor loving bard was making plans for them to continue to travel and enjoy their time together as the platonic boyfriends he believed them to be, and Geralt told him that all Jaskier had to offer him was a giant pile of shit that he kept shoveling his way!
There's been a lot of alterous and/or queeplatonic subtext since Season 1 (that could also read as romantic, but should never be used as evidence or proof of romance if we were talking about a real life partnership).
And, while I do acknowledge that queerbaiting has been messing with our ability to perceive and appreciate those relationships as such, I do think that, canonically establishing Jaskier as a sapioromantic, at the very least, clearly addresses the reasons why Jaskier was behaving in such an amorous way with Geralt without being romantically in love with him.
For once, instead of mocking the queer audience for "having mistakenly read two same-gender close friends as being romantically attracted to each other" (while doing as much as they can to suggest romance to keep them hooked!), they are canonically establishing Jaskier as a sapioromantic, with him experiencing his first romantic crush with Radovid.
The show's dialogue is telling people on the aromantic spectrum that "Yes, Jaskier is one of you. He gets squishes, meshes, lushes, and can desire a queerplatonic relationship with a best friend he's got strong platonic feelings for also."
You can speak to your queer audience, without fully risking alienating your non-queer audience, by simply using clues, and a language that your queer audience understands.
And I will forever be grateful to Joey Batey for having understood it, and having so skillfully managed it.
As someone who is ambiamorous, panalterous, panromantic, demisexual, and pansexual, all the nuances and details he brought to Jaskier's queerness was a pure delight, and spoke to me in a way that no TV show character has ever spoken to me before (except, perhaps, in "Sense8", but the whole show itself was about what it meant to love and be human, with main characters sharing a supernatural psychic bond making them more likely to open themselves to all the queer forms of love... whereas shows like "The Witcher" is of a more mainstream fantasy show).
I wish I had a way to contact him to tell him thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for breaking gender boundaries, and "platonic vs romantic" boundaries with Jaskier, and offering us a character that is one of the purest, most beautiful, and most perfectly balanced love song to queerness that one could have written and sung about!
Jaskier is a queer representation groundbreaking masterpiece on a show such as this.
That representation is as intelligent, insightful, and sharp as Prince Radovid himself.
And Extraordinarily Things said more about Jaskier's feelings, issues, and vulnerabilities than any piece of dialogue ever could have, and had me weeping my eyes out by the time Jaskier sang about how he finally felt like he was enough...
Well done Joey, you absolutely brilliant and deeply empathetic real-life bard and poet, well done...
#Jaskier#The Witcher#Sapioromantic Jaskier#Pan Jaskier#Pansexual Jaskier#Panromantic Jaskier#Greyromantic Jaskier#Sapioromantism#Greyromantism#Panromantism#Pansexuality#Queer representation#LGBTQ+#Queer#Joey Batey is a genius#Please ask him to guide you in addressing Ciri's bisexuality as well!#Queerplatonic#queerplatonic relationship#My posts#My thoughts
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