#Polycon system

[moonpool-system]

ok but i feel like so many more people would understand the jist of monoconscious vs polyconscious systems if we analogized it to, say. Videogame POVs. and stay with me here because it's kinda like this; if you're polyconscious, all your members have different points of view, and switching feels like changing whose pov is using the *body's* pov. Y'know, the traditional concept of "switching places". But when you're monoconscious and switch, the POV is still the exact same- YOU have changed in essence, but the point of view is still the same as before. That's why I say it kinda feels like shapeshifting. I wonder if this all makes it easier to conceptualize? It's the difference between "POV: Headmate Red of the Rainbow System watches his headmate front while in co-con" and "POV: all the headmates of the Rainbow System, experienced at different points in time"

feel free to add on with any other thoughts. this is a shot in the dark

[trenchcoat-of-hats]

we fully believe systems that work like this and think it's really cool, but we don't actually understand it, so could someone please explain, scientifically, how you can do things in the innerworld when you're not fronting and have seperate simultaneous thoughts to your headmates, when brains can't multitask?

[trenchcoat-of-hats]

we did this based on our own system, and it's purely self-indulgent, but we're sharing it with the world anyway!

TW for lots of mentions of non-specific drugs

Klaus could hear voices in his head. He was used to hearing voices around him all the time, but this was different. Vaguely familiar, but he didn't remember anything like this.

He expected he'd one day lose it, but not so soon. Although it also didn't feel like he was hallucinating voices either; he knew what that felt like because of certain drugs doing it to him.

They were all talking to each other, they seemed confused. As weird as it felt, Klaus couldn't help listening into their conversation.

"I'm pretty sure we're dreaming."

"Definitely not. What did you guys expect when we jumped through that portal in headspace?"

"Not to end up back here. What year is it anyway?"

"We're an adult, so that's neat."

"Not neat. The body feels like shit."

"Well I, for one, am happy. We can actually get high now!"

"Omg, true!"

"Seriously?"

All different voices, but they all sounded like Klaus, apart from one sounding younger, but other than that he just somehow knew they were all separate voices. It was like he could feel other people residing in his mind. But that was ridiculous.

"It's not ridiculous, it's not even as rare as people think."

Oh great, now they were talking to him.

"Look, why don't you just relax, sit back, and let mummy take the wheel?"

"What?" Klaus replied out loud.

"We just want to front properly, like take control of the body."

"Yeah. We wanna. Wanna get high."

"Yeah. What do you have?"

"I'm not just gonna let you take control of my body?? What even are you?" Klaus said, blinking as if it would make the voices go away.

"I'm Klaus."

"They said 'what', not 'who'."

"Sorry, but we are you. Kind of? What are we, guys?"

"We're… copies of you, based on what we saw of the show you're from."

"And fanfiction!"

"Yeah. Lots of fanfiction too." Klaus could feel that voice side-eye another of the voices.

"Since when was I in a show?" Klaus asked, whilst ignoring the part of him that was happy people wrote fanfiction about him.

"Multiverse."

"The show's called 'Multiverse'?" Klaus asked.

"No, dumbass, because of the multiverse, there's a show about you in another universe, and that's where we come from."

"And now you're here to invade my brain. Fun," he said bitterly. Because the universe had decided he needed yet another part of his body taken without his consent.

"No- That's not- We're not here to take your brain. We don't even know how we got here. But now that we're here, we just wanna hang out. Right, guys? And trust me, hanging out while you're in the one body will get more natural with time."

"And might I add that it's way better sharing a body with people than having to be alone all the time?"

"I beg to differ."

"You shut up."

"Sorry."

Klaus sucked in a breath. "Fine. I'll give you trippy fever dream demons a chance. What are your names?"

"Klaus."

"Klaus."

"Klaus."

"Klaus."

"Klaus."

"...How am I meant to distinguish you…?"

"I'm Bagel."

"And I'm Keres, and that's Kassian."

"Hi," Kassian said.

"We kinda just distinguish the others by what season they're from, and there's teen Klaus, that one Klaus from a murder mystery AU, and the Klaus who's married to Dave… So he gets a different last name," Keres explained.

"Oh shit," said the Klaus who was married to this 'Dave' person, because Klaus just somehow knew who was speaking. "I have to get back to my son."

"He'll be fine, he's got Dave," said one of the others named Klaus.

"I know, but I can't just be away forever."

"How about we figure this out after we get high?" Keres suggested a little impatiently.

"Fine, do that, but I'm going into the innerworld if I can find it."

Within moments, Klaus felt three of the voices just disappear.

"So you don't know who Dave is?" Keres asked Klaus.

"Nope."

"Don't worry, I don't either," said the 'murder mystery AU' Klaus.

"Same," said the teenage Klaus. "I mean we all know of him because we've excessively–and I mean excessively–watched our source. But I never met him in my source."

"Well anyway, that's interesting," said Keres. "How old are you?"

"I'm-" Klaus began, but before he could finish, his girlfriend opened the door.

"Hey, babe," she said, and then frowned at him, "Are you okay?"

"Yeah, I just had a bad dream."

"Alright. I'm heading to work. Don't steal any of my shit."

"I thought you trusted me."

"Not when you look that shaken. See you later."

And with that, Klaus was left alone with the voices again.

"Anyone remember her?" asked Kassian.

"'Course not," said Bagel.

"Back to business, I don't actually care how old you are, what drugs do you have?" Keres asked.

"Jesus, you guys are needy. I'm already high, hence the lack of ghosts."

"Oh yeah. We spent so long without them we forgot they're a thing."

"Didn't you just write a fanfiction about yourself and ghosts?" accused the murder mystery Klaus.

"No, that was Klaus."

"Am I the only one concerned about the fact none of us noticed this body is high?" teen Klaus asked.

"I'm not on something very strong," Klaus shrugged. "And can we not call me 'this body'?"

"I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about your body. Our body."

"Fun…"

Klaus felt another of the Klauses appear again. He now knew, somehow, that it was apparently Klaus from 'season two'. "Guys… I have bad news. I have a feeling we're not from another universe. I think this brain made us."

"That can't be true, we remember everything. We even remember our life before we existed in the system. It had to have been real," Keres said.

"We remembered our source life and that wasn't real."

"But we didn't remember it in that much detail."

"How much detail do you remember our 'real' life in?"

"What are you trying to say?"

"You know what I found in that innerworld? The fucking afterlife. You know the one. There was the little girl on the bike, and other people who I'm assuming are other headmates."

"Oh shit…"

"So this guy's brain made its own version of a place they've been to a million times in their life. What difference does that make?" Bagel asked.

"The difference is I don't think we've really died before. l think we've always been a system, the afterlife is our headspace, and we're new headmates."

"What about season 3?" teen Klaus asked. "Those were some pretty solid deaths."

"Please, season 3 was shit, let's not count that as canon. Besides, if this is real life, none of what happened in the show has happened, and it might never. So Dave…"

"...Might not have been real," Keres finished for him.

"That's bullshit," Kassian snapped. "Like I said, we're probably dreaming."

Bagel counted the body's fingers, then pushed on the wall. "Nope."

"Hey, where'd the Klaus who 'owns' this body go?" asked murder mystery Klaus.

"Probably stress switched out," said season 2 Klaus. "Because this is a system that's been functioning for a long time."

"So my boyfriend's not real either?" Keres asked bitterly.

"I guess not. Sorry."

The Klauses were silent for a minute.

Dave's husband hopped back into front.

"Ah. I guess we've all figured it out now," he said.

"Hey, it's not that bad," season 3 Klaus had followed after him. "Might as well make the most of it."

"The most of what? I fucking hated this life," Keres spat, getting murmurs of agreement.

"At least we've got a cock now," teen Klaus grinned.

"Oh, great. Now I can get double dysphoria when I front…" Keres muttered.

"It's going to be okay, guys," Dave's husband said. "We'll find a way to get back to our life, get back to our system. In the meantime… We could try to find a way to make our life here less shit?"

"I wanna see our siblings," S2 said. "We can make amends with them."

"Okay, perfect."

"Can we break up with our girlfriend?" murder mystery asked.

"She's not ours to break up with."

"Klaus won't mind," Bagel said.

"Except we won't have anywhere to live if we break up with her," Keres said.

The Klauses were brought into silence again, realising what all this means.

"...I'm sure it'll be fine!" said S3 over-enthusiastically.

Having no other choice, the Klauses settled into this new system. They tried their best to get everyone to cooperate with each other and live a better life than they had in their exomemories. Somehow, it worked out for the most part. Except they had no idea how to get back to their own system…

Prompt #568

Several introjects of the same being somehow find themselves inside their source self's mind. Now they must adjust them to a new life as a system while adjusting themselves to their new – old? – life as their source.

Bonus: at least one of them is questioning in the background if they still count as introjects if they're back in their original body now.

[ghostieroastie]

Here's a shoutout to "cringy" things!

Shoutouts to therians:

Shoutout to therians with "common" kins

Shoutout to polymorphs

Shoutout to "weird/uncommon" kins

Shoutout to concept kins

Shoutout to otherkins!

Shoutouts to systems:

Shoutout to endogenic systems

Shoutout to created systems

Shoutout to mixed origin systems

Shoutout to systems with 10+ splits a day

Shoutout to systems with no splits a day

Shoutout to monocon systems

Shoutout to polycon systems

Shoutouts to age regressors:

Shoutout to baby littles

Shoutout to goth littles

Shoutout to littles without a caregiver/taker

Shoutout to littles with a caregiver/taker

Shoutout to toddler/kid littles

Shoutout to "odd" littles

Shoutout to pet regressors

Shoutout to all of you! From us<3 /platonic

[monoconsciouscultureis]

monoconscious culture is thinking you werent a system for months, years even after questioning it for so long and because you arent polycon you thought that was the only way a system could exist

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[1-800-headmates]

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[abstract-mogai]

art is by my lovely boyfriend @soupdiscourse! this art is specifically of me please do not use it for any reason!

requests are OPEN!

[requests in queue]

hiiiii!! i'm abstract and this is my mogai/liom headcanons blog!! we are a neurogenic monocon median system who is the host of a polycon endogenic system! we are bodily 21 and our system/coining blog is @idealism-world

i use we/us and i/me interchangeably and we are transmasc nonbinary :3

i'm also alterhuman, specifically God. i am not god from any particular religion and i think ppl who do kin from religions are weird and disrespectful. affirmations in inbox are welcome but only from those 18 or over. i don't consider my godliness to be nsfw in any way but i'm very uncomfortable with minors seeing me that way.

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also please do not mention kinning osamu dazai from bungou stray dogs around me

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dni - anti-endos, radqueers, proshippers, zionists, anti-contridicatary labels, anti self-dx, anti mogai, and fakeclaimers.

[transillusionisms]

i need to be polyconscious so bad so so bad ive wanted to be polycon since we became a system help how do i become polycon

(for psychosis reasons i don't use subliminals so heads up on that)

[sophieinwonderland]

i think detaching from the body is only required for polycon switching/possessive switching. in monocon systems theres only one consciousness, so it doesnt necessarily disconnect from the body during a switch. unless i completely misunderstood what you meant. you mean dissociating until you arent aware of your physical body at all, right?

That might be true. I am not really too sure on how monocon switches work. I think before we started doing the current methods we use, how we switched was more like how monocon systems describe their switches, and thinking back, I don't recall them requiring detachment from the body.

Those were more like my host was becoming me. (We call these proto-switches because they did have a different feel to them than how we switch today.)

So yeah... You're probably right. Monocon switches might happen without this sort of detachment. That just slipped my mind. At the very least, the detachment in monocon systems might work a different way.

Thanks for pointing that out!

[simplyaskfellowplural]

hey, we consider ourselves monoconscious, tho we may not be? considering that the current fronter can hear the others in our head- can monocon systems do that or is that limited to non-monocon systems (not just polycon but muto/hydracon systems too)?) (@duskfallsorrels) (also if we're not actually monocon that means that the oc our alterhuman blog is named after also isnt monocon lolllll)

💙 Typing (He/They)

Hi! Thanks for the question! Second Monoconscious question for this blog! Very exciting! We've understood a bit more of monoconscious systems than our last ask we got, but definitely still have more educating ourselves to do!

Onto your question. So we did look up on Tumblr here from plural and other Monoconscious blogs to see if anything anywhere had something similar, along with Reddit and Discord! We did find at least 2 specific posts, while not necessarily answering your question, they do offer some community if your system isn't already following these blogs. No matter what the answer is just remember you're always valid!

Here's the first, and here's the second!

Now, within our albeit limited understanding of Monoconscious systems, technically speaking by definition, your experience possibly wouldn't fall under monoconscious, as within what we've understood, fronting in monoconscious systems is similar to feeling like you just are a different person or something similar, and that communication could happen if A fronts, and then puts the note or says what they wish to, and then B fronts and they can remember/see the communication from there.

But, it's also very important to remember within community terms, it takes understanding them, then understanding what you yourself experience. So while you might not fit that specific experience, you could still be monoconscious. At least to our understanding. If other monoconscious systems would like to pitch into the conversation and offer another viewpoint or advice feel free!

For other Questions / Advice check out our List!

[moonpool-system]

Ok so for questions, i think i'll send a bunch.

- How it feels to switch?

- Do you talk to each other?

- Are switches completely uncontrollable all the time or it's fluctuates?

- who is the oldest fictive in the system, in terms of being in the systems, not age in source? How much they changed?

- some examples of fictive being extremely different from source?

- Is there fictives of ongoing series/game/etc which don't have end yet? How they react to their original and plot? Can they watch it, or they prefer not to? Does it mess with their memories?

- silly question. Let's say you are werewolf, and everyone can choose one animal for themself, instead of a wolf to become it. what would be the most popular choice, and what everyone thinks? How they approach it?

Hello! Thank you for your patience!

🌌 Switching feels different depending on the member and situation, tbh! Our monoconscious switches feel basically like a slow sort of shapeshifting. We start out feeling like one member, and there's an in-between period of feeling like someone stirred together too many colors into a mush, and we come out the other side re-formed into the other member. We don't know what happens to monoconscious members that leave front/the consciousness- sometimes they're gone for months, and feel like they've been unconscious/unaware the entire time when they return. As for polyconscious members though, for us it usually feels like letting go of control and allowing the perspective of the other person/member to take your place. Falling out of front sort of feels like dozing off to sleep for me since my subsystem can't enter headspace, but the line between fully fronting and simply co-conscious is much thinner than we used to think. Sometimes we won't even notice before someone in co-con slips into front, using the body for themselves. "Front" is a doubly accurate word here because the person most in front often feels like the one that's "facing forwards the most" toward the outside world. When unintentional (polycon) switches happen there's usually a block of dissociation in the middle as well, where we feel like nothing (rather than color soup for monocon ones) for a little bit. In general, a full switch takes between 5 and 20 minutes for us.

🌌 We talk to each other frequently, even though our actual ability to call people to co-con outside of our frequent fronters is a little sketchy depending on where they are in headspace. Our communication is part of what keeps us grounded and stable; being able to hear each other lessens our paranoia and allows us to hang out or work together without needing to all be fully fronting. Things our co-conscious members say simply sound like a mental voice that's different from mine/ours- when we're texting others, the member most in front proxies out the words said by other members so that they don't need to use the body to type.

🌌 It fluctuates! Rarely they're uncontrollable, sometimes they're involuntary but we're able to pull in who we need to if we force it, and sometimes they're voluntary enough that the old fronter makes the choice to let go whilst the new fronter makes the choice to "slip in".

🌌 The earliest known fictive in the system is a Peridot (Steven Universe) fictive that formed around when we were 14 or so, but they're so incredibly quiet and keep to themself, so we don't know much about them actually. The secondmost though is Akira (Persona 5)- ae formed around high school, when we needed to advocate for ourselves due to autism and high school troubles. He used to be our main host, loud and proud about our disability(/ies, but we didnt know that at the time). Nowadays ae actually separated into two versions of aerself- one that stayed with the Prism subsystem and another that ended up outside it. The two are connected intrinsically, and both are constantly burnt out and enjoy cooking/food. The latter one runs a café/bar/lounge in headspace and likes to flirt around lol

🌌 We have quite a few fictives from sources that haven't ended yet- the one that's been around most lately is Pomni (The Amazing Digital Circus). A lot of our fictives consider their exomemories a past life under Chaos Theory regardless of origin; it's most common for fictives to be mostly canon-compliant with a few divergent memories. So when we watch more of source, it tends to either clear up foggy memories or give our members something to compare/contrast against. Not many of our fictives watch their source actively in front, but they (usually) end up getting the information on what happened regardless. Most of our fictives are fairly source-positive, but that doesn't mean things can't be rough sometimes- episode 2 of TADC still has Pomni a little shaken. (I wouldn't be mentioning it here if she hadn't made a vent post earlier, privacy and all)

🌌 This is a fun question!! We have a lot of nonhumans but not too many animals/creatures/etc, so it's easier to get a rough estimate among our members lol. Most of our Creatures™ are cat-coded or like in-between felid and canid in some way- we actually have an original species in the system as well, so I think we'd probably go with this!

Here's a picture of Kit, one of our members of the species! It's roughly sourced from the Slugcats from Rain World, but clearly a lot has shifted and changed ahaha. We'd probably choose this form for were-purposes- our more creature™ members would feel so much more comfortable. Plus, being able to be so physically athletic while transformed would be great for a lot of our cooped-up members!

Thank you so much for the questions! Have a lovely day!

[ignisuada]

Oh monoconscious (hope i spelled that right) is a system that has one consciousness instead of multiple ones (polycon) or something in-between (misaconscious) like my system

ohhhhhhh cool cool! We sorta have that too. Ish

also I saw ya were a rabbit and bear shifter! That’s so cool

[distortedidentity]

I woke up instead of Eun thankfully. Anyway I ate a marginally filling meal. I do not support Eun and Ronnies decision to become plural. If we aim for any further fragmentation we'll lose the nice support system we have. Do you think a polycon system would help the host with his selfship art?? No. If we're not joined at the hip why would we gaf.

We're already fragmented as hell. We have different opinions and memory barriers. I mean Eun has a different mental illness from the rest of us, for gods sake. We may not be on the more plural side of the median spectrum, or even identify with the median label, but I think we're in a place where if we want to consider ourselves plural, we just can.

I think plurality will make us worse and more dysfunctional. But anyway look at the way we're using tumblr as a form of external communication. I think this is already pretty plural

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[monoconsciouscultureis]

Mutoconscious (form of partial monocon) culture is DENIAL (we keep comparing ourselves to polycon systems)

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