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I'd take this article with an enormous grain of salt because it rehashes the same flimsy "Miyamoto said this movie expands the world of Super Mario when he announced it so that means it's not a sequel" talking point.
However, the concept of Yoshi talking like a normal Yoshi while having the voice of Vin Diesel as his internal monologue is very funny.
#again though it's just a rumor nothing is for certain at this point#The Super Mario Bros Movie 2#Mario Movie Speculation#Super Mario Brothers
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Maybe that Mario & Luigi warping footage has driven me mad and now I'm just terminally stuck on MAXIMUM BROTHERLY ANGST but the fact that the Mario movie seems willing to go to a very emotional and sweet place with their relationship is killing me!!! Here are some Mario and Luigi-specific theories/possible moments I've been thinking about for the movie, all nicely compiled (and not just tossed into other people's inboxes, haha) - maybe they'll happen in some way, maybe they won't, but if they DO, oh man, I will be a puddle of goo in the movie theater they'll have to sweep up afterwards:
Mario opening up to Peach and Toad about Luigi, what their life was like in the past, their closeness, and his fears/anxieties about the possibility of not being able to save his brother (some version of this seems EXTREMELY likely in the fire flower scene) (and likewise, Luigi talking to his fellow prisoners about Mario and how much he misses his brother!)
Both brothers taking moments throughout the movie to think of each other and draw inner strength/resolve from that - for instance, Mario struggling with his training, feeling exhausted and hopeless, but thinking of Luigi in danger and how much his brother needs him and that giving him the burst of strength and determination he needs to finally complete the course
LIKEWISE, Luigi panicking or struggling to act in his scary predicaments but thinking of Mario and what he would do/say in situations like this and being able to keep going/stay brave because of that memory
BOWSER FIGURING OUT THE RELATION AND USING LUIGI AGAINST MARIO AT A CRITICAL MOMENT??? (I'm sorry, but it feels like the interrogation stuff has to lead SOMEWHERE) (Bowser clearly is looking for info/weak points he can use against Mario, and Luigi himself ultimately IS that weak point!!!)
This could play out in a lot of different ways - using an in-danger Luigi as bait for a trap, maybe there's some Magic Shenanigans where Kamek throws Luigi's voice to lure Mario away from the group during a battle, or maybe Bowser just taunts Mario about his brother and how Mario's too weak to save him from the torture he's endured/will endure. Whatever the case is, Mario's anger and Ultra Big Brother Instincts overriding all other common sense could cause him to act too rashly or make some serious mistakes in the heat of the moment. :(
Either brother thinking that the other is dead for any period of time and just being BROKEN but also FULL OF FIERY VENGEANCE because of it!!! I know, I know, put me in Angst Jail but Mario could get blown off Rainbow Road and presumed dead for a little while, which could get back to Luigi through Bowser or his minions, OR maybe Luigi escapes but Bowser lies to Mario and tells that he disposed of his brother already and he's too late. I could just see both of them breaking down at first but ultimately being ANGRY above all else and resolving to avenge the other, no matter what ;___; (and this would also make their eventual reunion even MORE emotional and impactful)
Speaking of, the brothers reuniting with the BIGGEST, MOST DESPERATE, CLINGING HUG YOU'VE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE (this is truly all I care about, I just need the movie to get this right, PLEASE)
Bonus points if there's a big lead-up to it where they maybe they just hear each other at first, or they see one another from a far-away distance and they're just RUNNING and FIGHTING and SCRAMBLING to reach each other, calling out all the while, to the point that they can't even stop, they just TACKLE each other at full speed
(They've never been apart this long before! Ever since they can remember, they've been joined at the hip, and this whole time, it's felt like they were missing a limb, but now THEY'RE BOTH HERE and THEY'RE OKAY and there's a lot of fussing over injuries and frantic questions and THE BIGGEST, TEARIEST SMILES EVER and it finally feels like everything's really gonna be okay, even though there might still be an ongoing invasion/final battle to take care of)
After reuniting, there being a situation where they need to split up again temporarily to accomplish different goals in the name of stopping Bowser and Mario is actually the more anxious one for once who really doesn't want to let Luigi out of his sight after they've just found each other again, but Luigi takes a turn reassuring him that it's gonna be okay (and Mario is quietly impressed by how his brother seems a little braver after his ordeal)
ALSO after reuniting, there being a moment before the final battle with Bowser where Mario is self-doubting and isn't sure he can win, but Luigi doesn't understand that because ever since they were little and dealing with playground bullies, he's ALWAYS thought of Mario as a hero - this new role just fits him so well, at least in Luigi's eyes, and he knows that Mario can do this (I KNOW, I KNOW, A LITTLE CHEESY, but!! i just love the idea of Luigi hearing about/seeing his brother as The Hero and being like "yep, my big bro IS amazing and brave and the absolute best, this makes sense!")
At any point, Mario actually seeing Bowser hurt/threaten Luigi and just going ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC because of it. RIP BOWSER, YA IDIOT
Possibly related to the above, but it feels like a pretty sure thing that the final battle has to be Bowser VS Mario all the way, that's how so many games end, but! I do think Luigi could provide important assistance at one or two moments. Like maybe Bowser is startling to struggle and goes for the power star, but Luigi has already beaten him to it and manages to throw it to Mario before Bowser reaches him - but then he gets STRUCK HARD or even knocked out by Bowser and Mario's anguished reaction sets off the star's power! (I did see that somewhere else, not my original idea - the concept that the star can only be activated by an intense, pure-hearted emotion - but I love it <3)
That's all I got for now - again, even a FRACTION of these happening would be officially Too Much for my little, feeble heart. I'm just so grateful that from everything we've seen so far, the movie really does seem to be centering the brothers' relationship (even if they're not physically together for most of it) and how much they mean to each other and that is everything!
#mario movie#super mario bros#mario and luigi#super mario bros movie#mario movie speculation#mario movie spoilers#cherrysip hc's & rambling#(these are definitely NOT spoilers but just in case people don't even want to see guesses at what may happen lol)#i have always wanted more mario content about the brothers and their bond and how they would do anything for each other and#this movie does truly feel like a DREAM sometimes in that regard even if it is sad they won't spend a lot of onscreen time together#also i really wish i didn't have to say this but PLEASE don't be gross on this post or reblog it as a “ship” thing it is NOT meant that way
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Here's my Pitch for a Luigi's Mansion movie
Opening scene is King Boo getting word of the Mario Brothers, and sending Boos to spy on them.
By now, the brothers are firmly established in the Mushroom Kingdom as the Mario Brothers, and when we first see them now, they’re putting up fliers offering their services.
But immediately, we can see that when someone stops to talk to them, everyone seems to be gravitating towards Mario. Which is fine, and even expected, as people know him as the guy that saved the Kingdom.
But it’s not long before Luigi’s insecurities rear up their ugly heads, to the point where he feels like he can’t even tell Mario about them.
What insecurities exactly? The one’s you’d expect: only being known as Mario’s brother, or the guy that got trapped in a cage that needed Mario to rescue him. Which get worse when someone makes an offhand comment that gets under his skin. It’s essentially a parallel to what their dad said to Mario: about holding Mario back now that he’s a hero.
But here’s the secret: those comments don’t really bother him. It’s already been established that Luigi has been Mario’s #1 fan since before they even knew the Mushroom Kingdom existed. If people gush over Mario more, they’re just repeating what he’s known since they were babies. Why would that kind of talk start to bother him now?
No. For Luigi’s insecurities to be as bad as we’re being shown, it has to go deeper than that.
The real fear is that one day MARIO will see that, and just decide he’s done looking out for him. You thought he was heartbroken when trapped in the cage? NOTHING compared to what happens upon thinking of that.
However long that takes, everything comes to a head when Luigi gets the notice about winning the mansion in the mail, and he decides to go check it out.
Whether it’s because he suspects something is up or he’s too distracted by his insecurities, does not matter. What does is that he decides to go alone to prove he’s not just Mario’s little brother.
And I will emphasize this right here and now: Luigi does not blame Mario for ANY of this. He loves Mario the same as he always has, if not more, and it’s that exact love why he’s so scared of losing him.
He shrugs off Mario’s questions as to why he’s going alone, and leaves. Which then prompts Mario to check out the notice himself, and after some research, realizes Luigi’s about to walk into a trap, and runs off to try and stop him.
While all this is happening, we need two different sets of flashbacks, wherever they make sense: flashbacks of them growing up, to show how their relationship changes into what it is now. And snippets of a more recent one, with Mario telling him he’s moving to the Mushroom Kingdom, offering him a chance to come with; Luigi panicking because a) he’s still traumatized by what happened, and b) he’s scared of losing his brother again if he says no.
Eventually Luigi makes it to the mansion, and it plays out like it did in the game. I trust Nintendo’s ability to make sure it stays as true to the game as it can be. It’s still about getting rid of the painting ghosts and all that, but keeps coming back to the insecurities.
And if there's a way to add their Twin Sense to the story, preferably when Luigi finds something of Mario's, that would be AWESOME.
Mario, on his side, is not just trapped in a painting. The painting itself is essentially a pocket dimension where he can see everything that’s going on, as one of King Boo’s cruel torture tactics, but no matter how loud he screams or yells, Luigi can’t see or hear him unless in the throne room, because that’s where the physical painting actually is.
It's revealed the Boos had been observing Luigi for weeks to figure out the best way to mess with him, and while they usually just do what we’ve seen them do in the games, they tried something different because Luigi essentially did all the work for them, and enhanced his insecurities to lure him to the mansion to trap him there.
And of course, when he faces King Boo, he gets hit where it really hurts: the fallout of all those flashbacks: every time Luigi got hurt or was picked on, and Mario stepped in. Or only Moving to the Mushroom Kingdom to make Mario happy. King Boo laughing at him and saying how he’s so weak he can’t even fight his own battles, no wonder Mario got taken so easily.
Luigi starts to believe it, maybe even starts crying, I won’t object, but then he hears Mario banging on the painting, making him look up.
Whatever Mario says here is meant to get Luigi to look back again, and we see a flashback montage. Sure, Mario stepped in at first, but when Luigi got older, he started doing the same. And even had Mario teach him to defend himself, despite the fact that it scared the shit out of Mario every time he fell or got hurt. The very last flashback is of when Mario finally made him talk about moving to the Mushroom Kingdom, and Luigi admitted how scared he was about the whole idea. And you guessed it, Mario gives a bona fide Good Big Brother speech that ends with another Bro Hug.
And THAT is what gives Luigi the strength to get back up and kick King Boo’s ass straight back into the painting where he belongs.
Keep the game’s ending in there, or the fans will riot, then give us a Proud Big Brother moment after they’re home safe.
Then it ends with them hanging up more fliers all over the Mushroom Kingdom, but now we see there’s a new thing added to their services: Boo Hunting.
Oh yeah. And to keep with the first movie's continuity: soundtrack only has music from or before the year the game came out.
This would be November 2001, so use your imagination.
#mario movie spoilers#mario and luigi#super mario bros movie#super mario bros#mario movie#mario luigi#the super mario bros movie#super mario bros spoilers#super mario#mario#luigi#luigi's mansion#movie pitch#do not copy#do not tag as ship#seriously#tag this as brocest ill break your legs#movie idea#speculation
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Can Sonic Movie 3 make it into the billion-dollar club at the box office similar to the Mario movie?
A) Yes
B) It will most likely be close to it ($700 million to $900 million)
C) It will do well but it won't be close to a billion dollars ($400 million to $600 million)
D) The film will most likely flop
Thanks for the poll anon!
Polls for the Sonic fandom on just about anything. Share polls you like to get more data. Asks and submissions always open.
#Poll 278#Can Sonic Movie 3 make it into the billion-dollar club at the box office similar to the Mario movie?#Paramount sonic#Sonic movie franchise#Sonic the Hedgehog (Paramount)#Speculations and wants#Opinion poll#Sonic the Hedgehog#Sonic Fandom#Sonic#Sega#StH
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Little fic drabble I thought of (will have a part 2) some eventual Bowuigi
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Luigi in the Fungeon
(Taking place during the movie that I haven't seen yet so prepare for speculation)
From his cage dangling above the lava pit, its hot glow emanating with the heat to throw everything into red light, Luigi could see several of the neighboring cages swinging wildly, spinning, and some dropping down too close to the lava for comfort, only to be lifted back up while the prisoner inside screamed
It happened with the penguin king and his subjects, and the little talking star, and then Luigi's stomach dropped as he felt his own cage lowering.
It swung around and lowered much more slowly than he'd seen the others' do. It didn't stop him from giving an involuntary shriek as the chains clanked, causing him to sway.
As his cage finally halted, he heard a high, childlike giggle from just behind him. It almost sounded like the little star, but perhaps a bit younger.
His cage spun around and around before abruptly halting before a miniature sized version of that hulking dragon-turtle man that had interrogated him about Mario.
"Hi new prisoner, I'm Junior!"
Luigi blinked at him, at a complete loss for words but unable to forget his manners so he was able to give a small wave.
The mini-dragon-turtle - Junior- tilted his head in curiosity. He gave Luigi a long, appraising look followed by a series of sniffs through the bars all over his body.
"You smell funny," he concluded, his little mouth curving upwards to reveal rows of small but sharp teeth. "But good too. You must worry a lot."
Luigi quirked an eyebrow. "How can you tell?" He asked. Now that he surmised he wasn't in any immediate danger, he was finding the young creature as interesting as he was finding Luigi.
"I can smell it," Junior said. "You kinda smell like my Mama. She used to worry a lot, too."
"Really?" Luigi found it hard to believe that the mother of this kid - if she looked anything like him - would worry about anything.
Junior nodded. "Yeah, about me, about Papa, about the other Koopas. She tried not to let me see but I could smell it."
Luigi removed his cap to wipe away the sweat from his forehead, fanning himself with it while he had it in his hand.
Junior didn't seem to be effected by the heat at all, but he did notice the kid's smile had slowly disappeared upon the mention of his mother. It hadn't escaped Luigi that he'd been using past tense to talk about her.
"May I ask, is your Mama around now?"
He blinked at Luigi, his gaze lowering and he shook his head.
"The bad king got her."
Bad king? Luigi hadn't seen much of this world before he was captured, but the idea of a king worse than Junior's papa gave him even more reason to sweat.
When he didn't respond, Junior continued.
"But it's okay. Papa's gonna destroy the bad Mushroom Kingdom so nobody will be hurt by them again."
Replacing his hat to his head, Luigi grasped the bars of his still-dangling cage.
"I'm sorry about that--- your mama."
Junior had been avoiding his gaze, but he looked at him then.
"Everybody says that, I mean, all the Koopas anyway. But they knew her, you didn't. Why are you sorry?"
"I don't have to have known her to be sorry for you," he answered. "I can imagine it being tough for you."
Junior sniffed, wiping his face and trying to make it look like Luigi's words hadn't made him tear up.
A pang of guilt hit him in the stomach. He hadn't meant to make the boy cry. He decided to change the subject.
"And your Papa, he's the one who put me in here?"
Junior nodded again. "Uh huh. But if he comes don't tell him I was here, okay? Papa doesn't like me coming to the dungeon by myself."
"I wanted to play 'torture' though and I don't have anyone to play with."
"So that's why you were shaking the cages around," Luigi concluded.
"It's fun!" Junior exclaimed.
"Not for the one in the cage," he mumbled.
Junior scoffed. "Come on, they love it, right?" He gestured to the other prisoners who all jumped to attention and gave various hurried, fearful exclamations of agreement.
"See?"
Junior appeared to notice Luigi's skepticism, for he pulled out a remote control with several large red buttons, mashing one and lowering Luigi's cage to the floor of whatever Junior was standing on.
Another button pressed and the door to his cage sprang open, Junior waving him out enthusiastically.
"Here," he shoved the remote into Luigi's hands and nearly leaped into the cage, slamming the door shut and pointing back to Luigi.
"You use the remote and fly me around some. I'll show you how fun it is!"
Luigi blinked again, flabbergasted that it was this easy to be let out like this. He could escape now, easy. All he had to do was use this remote to lift Junior high enough that he couldn't follow him and boom, he was free.
His eyes flicked from the remote in his hands to the entryway Junior must have come from. It *would* be easy...
"Let's go already!" He heard Junior whine impatiently from the cage. Luigi turned back to see the boy bouncing and swinging the cage himself, anxiously waiting Luigi to start the game.
It would be easy, but then what? Where would he go, where could he go? And how would he get there?
It wouldn't be fair of him - even if he did manage to get out of this Darkland place - to leave all of these others behind.
And this Junior kid--- whatever his papa had done to him, Luigi truly felt a kind of sympathy for him. He was just a kid, a kid who'd lost his mom. It wouldn't be right to trick him or betray his trust however misguided.
So, feeling like he might regret not taking the chance later, Luigi pressed several buttons in succession and flung Junior about the dungeon, spinning and dropping him in the same way he had been doing.
He probably should not have been surprised when all of the screaming the boy did was of delight, interspersed with wild, high pitched squeals of laughter.
After a few minutes of watching Junior fly and dive and scream with joy, Luigi almost forgot where he was.
Almost.
He was reminded quite abruptly when a large yellow Koopa guard took hold of him and wrenched the remote from his hands.
"What are you doing?" The Koopa barked at him, Luigi instinctively cowering in his grip. "What do you think you were doing to the prince?"
Junior's sounds of enjoyment slowly died as he became aware of what was happening.
One of the flying Koopas zoomed up to stop the cage from spinning, aiding its descent back onto solid ground.
"It's okay, Junior," the flying guard tried to comfort the boy who only whined and rolled his eyes. "We'll get you out of there and this human will be swiftly dealt with."
"But we were just playing," Junior whined. "He was gonna go back in the cage when we were done, honest."
Luigi made to speak up and agree with him, but the guard holding him smacked him across the back of his head, knocking off his hat.
"Quiet you!" The guard said. "Junior, you're lucky we got here when we did. Who knows what this human was planning?"
The flying guard came up beside his fellow, taking hold of one of Luigi's arms. "Yeah. We'll have to take him to your papa now and see what's to be done with him."
As the two koopas began to drag him away, Luigi saw Junior pick up his hat, scrunching it in his claws as tears filled his eyes.
Luigi wasn't sure if Junior was fearing for him or for himself, but he did know that he was about to come face to face with this koopa king once again.
#drabble#bowuigi#super mario#the super mario bros movie#luigi mario#bowser#bowser jr#yes i think Bowser hates the Mushroom Kingdom for dead wife reasons#wild speculation
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I actually really hope this dudes inclusion leads to the Mario games getting a new Bowser troop like Kamek. I really would like to see some more high ranking Bowser minions like Kamek and the elite trio!!! and this dude seems like he'll be reoccurring
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you know what would fix me? a teaser for a new mario game
#that way i could still be obsessed with something mario movie adjacent but also be able to watch fun new speculation videos :]#mario#willow whispers
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SMG4 THEORY
So, I saw a twitter post about some of last year’s movies.
IGBP is a sequel to SMG4 goes Insane.
Western Spaghetti is a sequel to Wild Wild Mario
WOTFI 2023 is a sequel to Casinos, Cards, and Chips
And WOTFI 2024 is a sequel to The Mario Carnival.
And it got me thinking.
By this logic, have ANY of Mr Puzzles’ shows been original?
NO.
They haven’t.
Not a single one of his shows are an original idea.
(before I get jumped, technically A Night at SMG4’s wasn’t one of his shows. And if it was, you could argue it was a sequel to something like Freddy’s spaghettiria.)
Now, that just seems like a fun fact, not a theory. Where am I going with this?
Well, I also saw something here on tumblr. There are a lot of parallels between 4 and Mr Puzzles. I’m not naming them all, but just know that there are enough to start considering how alike they really are.
But, what do 4 and Mr Puzzles NOT have in common?
Well, 2 big things.
4 has friends, obviously. And he values his friends a lot.
But, more importantly, to this theory at least, 4 has creative vision.
4 has the ability to make things.
He can make things people genuinely enjoy without copying existing things.
He makes.
Mr Puzzles doesn’t.
Mr Puzzles copies.
He makes parodies. He makes sequels. He remakes things. But he can’t make anything of his own.
That’s the difference between them.
Mr Puzzles is a stand-in for the big media companies.
4 is the talented freelancers that big companies prey off of and buy.
4 is basically just a better version of Mr Puzzles.
He has friends, an audience who loves him, and creativity.
That’s why Mr Puzzles can’t make a good show without him and his friends.
And, that’s why Mr Puzzles hates 4 so much.
Sure, he hates everyone because they keep beating him, especially Mario, but he hates 4 more than the others. (excluding Mario)
Why?
He’s just jealous.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Remember, this is all speculation!
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Welp
A 3rd AU anyone???
I joke, this is just a mock-up of an idea that popped into my head, I probably won't do too much with it seeing as I still have Viral Virus and Meme Plaza to take care of but still :3
So I've jokingly called this "Smg3- I shrunk our friends-" (obviously a reference to a movie I've never watched but see referenced a lot)
Basically, the cast except Smg4, Smg3 and somehow Mario get poofed back to when they were kids
Obviously some of them are gonna have to be speculation cause they never actually were kids, like Saiko
#au#art#drawing#digital art#digital drawing#sketch#mock up#smg4#smg4 fanart#smg4 art#smg4 au#smg4 meggy#smg4 bob#smg4 anti shroomy#smg4 tari#Smg3 I shrunk our friends
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What are your predictions for Luigi to have his role in the 2026 Mario Movie Sequel
That is a difficult question to answer, because we don't have any idea what plot the sequel is going to be.
We know Yoshi is likely to appear going by the end credit scene, but no idea how they will incorporate him, or whether he will even play much of a main role.
Will the sequel choose to stay with the simple plots of games like Super Mario World? Or will it choose to add a little more like Sunshine? Or will it choose to go a very plot heavy route like Paper Mario (first trilogy) or the Mario & Luigi series?
As of now, until we know what plot the sequel will be, we can't say for sure what roles the characters will play.
But I do speculate that Luigi will be more of the supportive role and stick by his brother. They will be together much more than the first movie and have wholesome moments ❤����
#super mario#mario movie#the super mario bros movie#super mario movie#luigi#mario movie sequel#mario movie 2#multicolour ink answers#aviles2003
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Thinking about Bowser Jr and how the dynamic would be in the movie universe where Bowser's not just a regular baddy who causes trouble on a monthly basis, but an overpowered maniac with a long history of doing significant damage. He has conquered kingdoms and left them in ruins. His presence forced the entire Mushroom Kingdom to evacuate, he nearly killed Luigi alongside an army of Donkey Kong's allies (as well as DK himself), and he easily beat Mario to a pulp in their first encounter. Through a combination of teamwork and sheer luck Mario narrowly managed to put this guy away, hopefully for good.
And then along comes Bowser's 13 year old kid.
And this kid loves his dad with all his heart and just wants to make him proud, but making him proud (unfortunately) involves following in his footsteps.
But Mario himself has a long history of wanting to make his dad proud, so he feels for this kid because he's 13, of course he wants to be just like his Dad! But then Junior turns out to be a legitimate threat? And Bowser... for all the damage he's done and lives he's ruined... seems to genuinely love his son in return???
So Mario is caught between helplessly trying to talk this kid down, not letting him hurt anyone, and not getting killed himself, but he did NOT sign up for these conflicting emotions he just wanted to fix people's pipes!
#Mario ''I will punch a child if I have to but I will NOT be happy about it'' Mario#anyways the Mario movie writers seem to like using daddy issues as a theme#so this would be a great way to bring it back in a fairly natural way#not just make it a one-off issue to overcome#mario movie#mario speculation
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Absolutely nothing can stop Mario now. He's fought his way through the airship, he's found Luigi in the middle of a jailbreak, and he's finally about to reunite with his brother. What could go wrong?
Bowser happens to be nearby, though. And he's just had an epiphany about his new foe's biggest weakness.
(Alternatively: A Hypothetical Version of Mario & Luigi's Reunion in the Mario Movie That Would Cause Me Irreparable Psychic Damage.)
(I decided to clean this up a little and post it on AO3 too! A slightly rougher version is still available here on tumblr, but if you'd prefer this format, here you go!)
#mario movie#super mario bros movie#mario and luigi#super mario bros#mario movie speculation#i am a pretty prolific fic writer in other fandoms but i made a brand-new AO3 account for this#because the venn diagram of the people who read my previous fic and the people who want to read this fic is probably just two circles lol#also i think it's EXTREMELY likely that i write more mario fic after the movie's out so let's just get this set up now!#anyway thank you to everyone who had something nice to say in the comments/reblogs of the last post!!!! YOU ARE TOO SWEET#and sorry for the pain i inflicted. i DID warn you ahead of time!!#i like angst (with the knowledge that it all ends well) a little too much :) :) :) :) :)#also if you already read the other version no big changes were made!!! i just cleaned up and tightened the writing in some places#for instance: i realized that i used the word 'little' like six times in the last couple of paragraphs so i cut some of those out lolol#cherrysip fic
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If they made a Super Princess Peach Movie
Would Bowser be smart enough to know to put Mario and Luigi into the same cell until it was time to fight Peach?
I like to think yes. When that game came out, they'd fought so many times already, enough to know their strengths and weaknesses.
AND from what i saw in the game, his goal wasn't to torture, just imprison and leave the Mushroom Kingdom defenseless.
If he wanted them to stay quiet, he should definitely know the best way to do that is keep them together.
Alternatively: if he DIDN'T already know that, Mario would immediately start screaming and yelling until he did.
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F-Zero Novel "And Then, to the Gods of Speed" Plot Summary
I just read through the obscure official tie-in novel for F-Zero from 1992, which has very little information about it online.
DISCLAIMER: Since I can't read Japanese, I had to use my phone to translate, which certainly didn't yield stellar results, but I was so curious about what was actually inside the book since there's so little information about it other than 1. It's a darker book, 2. The protagonist is named Swan Lee, and 3. It involves Captain Falcon's death, and I just couldn't wait for a full fan translation to sate my curiosity. The goal was basically to get an overall idea of what was going on, which I think I managed to get.
So, for those of you who have been just as curious as I was about this book, I'll be going chapter by chapter, giving a fairly comprehensive summary of the plot. There's a lot of digressions throughout with worldbuilding about the socioeconomics and mechanics of the setting, which I'll mostly be skipping unless they directly relate to the plot.
I want to reiterate that it's entirely likely that I get some things wrong, like perhaps names or plot points. The ending in particular I'm not super sure about because, well, let's just say it gets pretty... weird, you'll see. It comes across to me like it might have been rushed, but that's just idle speculation.
One more thing: I knew going in that Captain Falcon was supposed to die and this would be a darker book, but damn! I was legitimately shocked at how they handled him here, I could not believe that Nintendo approved of this direction. It could have only happened during that pre '93 Mario movie/Phillips CDI era where Nintendo didn't give much oversight as to how other people handled the characters.
Spoilers ahead!
Chapter 1: Team Sprem (a misspelling of Supreme)
Swan Lee is a street kid with no parents living in the poor Port Town along with his gang, Team Sprem/Supreme (which I'll just call Supreme to prevent giggles from readers), which includes his friends Eddie and Mamoru. Despite only being 10 years old, Swan is a very good racer because he has access to a banned system called Soulmatic which allows users to directly connect their minds to their machines, which can be very dangerous. Whenever Swan connects to his machine, he communicates with an unknown entity called the Supreme who guides him.
While chasing down an opponent, Mamoru crashes his vehicle and has to be pulled out of the wreckage by Swan. Afterwards, a futuristic zeppelin passes by announcing the top 4 winners of the recent F-Zero race who are the original four characters from the SNES game (though for whatever reason Samurai Goroh is called Kamikaze Goroh in this version).
Captain Falcon, the 1st place winner, announces his retirement, and he is given the title of Baron of Cosmos by Mr. Richter, the President of the company Big Cosmos, which created and oversees F-Zero.
Chapter 2: Monday Tournament
Ten years later, the adult Swan and Team Supreme have mostly split, with Eddie as his mechanic and Mamoru never being able to fully recover from his injuries all those years ago. Swan plans to race in the Monday Tournament so he can qualify for F-Zero.
However, the odds are stacked against him. At this point, F-Zero -which is ostensibly supposed to be open to everyone who has access to a machine, only wants the pilots that Big Cosmos trains themselves to be able to compete in the races, and they set out traps for outsiders, making it almost impossible for ordinary citizens to participate in F-Zero.
Swan uses the Supreme to help him avoid the traps and win the qualifier, even though use of the Soulmatic system isn't allowed. His cheating goes unnoticed, however, and his darkhorse victory in the qualifier causes a stir among F-Zero viewers.
Chapter 3: Blue Falcon
After the tournament, Captain Falcon reaches out to Swan and Eddie, asking them to meet him at his home. Once they arrive, they see that Falcon has become prematurely aged from his years of racing and he admits to being an alcoholic. Swan is skeptical of Falcon's intentions, but Falcon says that he's renounced his title as Baron of Cosmos and wants to sponsor Swan and Eddie in F-Zero, giving them his blessing to inherit the Blue Falcon and modify it however they please.
After this, a meeting between President Richter and his right-hand man, Owl, is shown, where Richter reveals that Falcon has cancer and doesn't have much time left to live.
Back home in Port Town, Swan is told that Mamoru has collapsed. He rushes to be at his old friend's side, but it's too late. Mamoru is already dead by the time he arrives at his family's home. Swan has a heartfelt conversation with Mamoru's younger sister, Taime, and he lets her ride around town with him.
Chapter 4: Glid (probably a misspelling of Grid)
Richter invites Swan and Eddie to stay at the Crystal Tower Hotel in White Land. Once there, Swan has dinner alone with Richter, who drugs him so that he can analyze his brain with a machine that detects the Supreme's presence in his mind. Swan comes to with no knowledge of what just happened.
The race at White Land takes place, and this time Swan wins by attacking another racer with a concealed weapon. Falcon watched the broadcast of the race from home, and at the end, he fell unconscious.
Chapter 5: Death Wind
Swan's cheating has been discovered this time, but Richter allows this, announcing that the rule against directly attacking other racers will be rescinded. He believes that Swan will usher in a new era of F-Zero where it is more than entertainment, it will be war.
A romantic meeting between Swan and Taime is interrupted by Eddie, who tells them that Falcon is in critical condition. Swan hurries to Falcon's house, where he is on his deathbed. In his last moments, Falcon "looks at Swan as if he were looking at a lover" and implores him to seek out Dr. Stewart, Goroh, and Pico so he may learn the meaning of racing from them, and as he passes away, he can see and speak to the Supreme.
However, once Swan returns to his garage, he sees a ransom note from a gambling organization called Vega threatening him that they have Taime in their clutches and won't release her unless he drops out from the Death Wind circuit.
Swan plans on racing anyway, believing that's what Taime would want, and he gathers a collection of bombs from his street gang days to use against the other racers. In response to this, Eddie leaves Swan. When the Death Wind race starts, the Supreme prevents the Blue Falcon from moving, causing Swan to panic, but Taime is then let go safe and sound.
Chapter 6: Goal Gate
The next session of F-Zero will see the princes of Sand Ocean and Silence participating, and Richter plans on using the new brutality of the races to spark a war between the two planets so he can buy the oil that was recently found on Sand Ocean. At this point, he views Swan as expendable and orders him to be killed.
A cruiser ship piloted by a man named Sekikawa attacks and injures Swan and Taime; luckily, they're rescued by Pico and brought to his fortress. After he recovers, Swan visits Goroh's boat house in Big Blue. Following a short pep talk and a feeling of kinship over their shared "Oriental blood" (the translation's words, not mine), Swan and Taime visit Dr. Stewart in Mute City.
In each of his conversations with the three former pilots, Swan has discussed what racing means to them and what the Supreme is, getting different answers from them. Dr. Stewart encourages Swan to race again, and he leaves Taime behind to stay safe with the doctor.
Immediately after leaving the penthouse, Sekikawa attacks Swan, seemingly killing him and causing Taime to become hysterical. As Swan falls through the air, he sees angels and can feel his body lifting upward. Dr. Stewart contacts Pico and Goroh, asking for their help to create the ultimate F-Zero machine. The three work together to create a new, more powerful version of the Blue Falcon.
Finally, the last race in Mute City with the two princes is about to begin. The Blue Falcon appears at the entry line, much to Mr. Richter's shock, since he believes Swan to have been killed. He tries to shut down the race to no avail, the systems are unresponsive. Stewart, Goroh, Pico, Taime, and the rest of the crowd watch as stars fill the night sky of Mute City for the first time in centuries.
The race goes without incident and the Blue Falcon wins. Swan reveals himself and embraces Taime, telling her that the Supreme is in actuality the collective memory of all those who race, and he has elevated himself above caring about winning or losing.
Final Thoughts After that, the book ends with pontificating about the spiritual significance of racing at high speeds felt by pilots and car racers throughout history, hence the title "Gods of Speed," but I didn't know how to word it, sorry. This book seems like it's too short, there's a lot of "and then Swan went here and talked to this guy for a bit", but I also appreciate not wasting my time.
Like I said, there's a lot of worldbuilding and stuff that I left out, there's far, far more of it than you would expect from a Nintendo tie-in novel from the early 90's and I appreciate the effort, even if a lot of it was expressed through info dumps.
How about Captain Falcon going out like that, huh? Can you imagine any Nintendo property tackling alcoholism and cancer, especially with the protagonist of one of their flagship SNES games at the time??? I have to admire such a bold choice. It's so completely different from later portrayals of Falcon where he's basically Future Racing Jesus and got to go out in the anime with a blaze of glory. I wish the other three racers were in it more (BTW, Goroh is given the last name "Sugata" here, and I'll now adopt that as my headcanon for his real last name). If you have any questions about the book, I'll try to answer them the best I can. I know a lot of it still flew over my head.
#f-zero#nintendo#long post#captain falcon#retro gaming#of all the 80's/90's tie ins not made by nintendo this has gotta be in the top tier#snes#copied my text that I put on reddit for those who don't want to go there
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With the Mario sequels being inevitable and the talk about a possible trilogy, I wanted to share some ideas to what I think those movies could take inspiration from.
Note: this is just speculation and if you have any ideas I'd love to hear them.
Also, since there are ALOT of games in the Mario universe, I combined some of the games to bring as much of this franchise to the big screen as possible.
Option nr 2:
Super Paper Mario
Some of my favorite trilogis have simular patterns. The first movie is the one who gives you the basic structure of the movies (the tone, the style, the characthers and more), the second movie keeps the style but goes into darker tones themes (for exemple death and genocide), and then the third movie is a little more light hearted comedy driven but with an emotional conclution to the characters. All combined into one big story.
With these in mind I think SUPER PAPER MARIO is a fitting story for the second film. Not only does it have high stakes, but it lets all of our main cast (Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser) have importance and good moments.
It also fit well with the big main story of super mario bros, which is the bond between Mario and Luigi. This story could put there brotherly love for eashother to the test and we could also see how difrent kind of love is showned (from friendship to romantic to family and even love that isn't reciprocate) with the chaos and pure heart at the center.
The story goes the same as it does in the game with small changes, like building up luigis character more and a look into Tippy and count Blecks background. Even go hammy with some of the bad guys personality
#super mario#mario bros#mario movie#super mario bros#mario#princess peach#mario and luigi#mario fanart#super paper mario#super mario bros film#luigi
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WHAT IF THE MARIO MOVIE HAS AN ENDING SCENE WHERE A POSTER OF M,ARIO GETS SMEARED WITH PAINT AND A LIL CHILD LAUGH AND SETS UP BOWSER JR IN THE NEXT ONE FRBHHFGBNLHFER
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