#Liking Jason is ≠ hating Percy

[somewhereincairparavel]

I'm actually appalled at how gatekeeping, aggravating and Percy obsessive the pjo fandom is when you say you like Jason as a character or say ANYTHING good about him at all. I've had such horrible experiences, like why the dirty look ffs? I'm not a "true" pjo fan if I like Jason?? Bffr it sounds like something an 8 year old would say

Like I came across a YouTube comment appreciating Jason and Nico's closeness as friends and the replies HAD to be "oh L take. Imagine liking jason. Percy was much more brotherly and affectionate with Nico than Jason was" like ??? This is isn't about Percy?? Not everything revolves around him?? People can like and appreciate others too? How come I NEVER see these comments in a Leo or Nico post?

Or those stupid Instagram reels where ppl go "The people who like Jason isn't one of us" like this ain't a cult ma'am you aren't special for for making Jason lovers feel unwelcome. It seems to be some kind of trend.

Liking Jason isn't a fucking disease and people aren't obligated to have Percy as a favourite. Get over it, the world isn't going to end. I swear I didn't want to come off so aggressive here but this is seriously a very toxic and offputting trait the fandom has that NEEDS to fade over time.

[bookalicent]

yeah so this was insane

[mioakem]

Jason grace had two separate potentials to be apart of an absolutely gut wrenching, soulmate coded, beautiful, mind numbingly poetic romance but instead we got jiper

[blackpensils]

I want someone to put Jason Todd, Danny Phantom and Percy Jackson in the same room.

They would either try to kill each other or they would conquer Olympus. There is literally no in-between.

[ramblingsfromthytruly]

oh jason grace they could never make me hate you

[riri-loves-cats]

I had a dream that there was a Heroes of Olympus TV show and they made Valgrace canon

[lilislegacy]

the seven + nico on a roller coaster

percy: 😎🤙

annabeth: *deep in thought about it’s design and how it was built*

leo: “WOOOHOOOOO” “PUT YOUR HANDS UP BITCHES” 🤪🤪

piper: *low key hates it but she’s pretending to have fun* (*fake smiling*)

jason: “this is great!” 😄🤓 (his hands are neatly sitting in his lap the entire time. he lets out some little giggles)

hazel: 🤢🤢

frank: 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

nico: 😐😐🫨😆😐😐

and quite frankly that’s all i have to say

[thedevilandhisgrandmother]

Just finished reading house of Hades

Emotional trauma galore

[poppitron360]

Jason knew that Leo was alive and even went to go look for him.

Imagine the worry as the months dragged on, not knowing why Leo wasn’t coming back. Imagine the waiting, the wondering. Was he okay? Was he hurt? Was that message faked, did Jason just imagine it?

Leo has had experience running away. If he wanted to disappear, he’d know how. What if… what if he didn’t want to be found?

And then the thoughts start to spiral. Was it something Jason did? Was Leo mad at him? Why didn’t Leo tell him his plan- could he not trust him? Was Leo stuck somewhere and needed help, or was he not coming back because he didn’t want to see Jason? Maybe he’d gone off with Calypso and forgotten all about them… all about him. Maybe Leo hates him now. Maybe he always hated Jason, and had to die to escape him. What does that say about Jason as a friend? As a leader? As a person? Why wasn’t his friend coming home?

[t1oui]

i fully believe jercy are the weirdest fucking couple who do their weird fucking pda 24/7 and they just don't notice. if any of their friends are like "yeah y'all goofy" or mention their pda they're both like wdym??? we have never even perceived each other in public before?? we literally do not touch outside what?

and so eventually their friends, piper and annabeth specifically bc yk as the ex girlfriends they have to make fun of jercy the most, start collecting evidence. they start taking vids of jason chewing on percy's hand or the two of them biting each other on the cheek/neck/etc. instead of kissing. at one point piper gets a picture of jason shirtless at the beach and circles all the visible bite marks and rates them based on how weird their placement is.

ofc there's also a thousand pics of them just sitting on each other's laps, one with them at a fancy restaurant where you can see sally with her head in her hands in the background

so eventually percy and jason have to admit that they are the gross, weird pda couple. and they change absolutely nothing.

[thelilylav]

We only see each other at funerals

(On Jason, Thalia, Nico, Bianca, and their parallels/connections)

The Titan's Curse (Rick Riordan), @/anxiousmaya_, Right Now (Gracie Abrams), The Battle of the Labyrinth (Rick Riordan), Joan of Arc (Mary Gordon), The Lost Hero (Rick Riordan), Episodes Toward and Elegy for Halley's Comet (Lindsey Drager), Jason Grace (Riordan Wiki), The Gods Show Up (Michael Kinnucan), The House of Hades (Rick Riordan), What the Living Do (Marie Howe), The House of Hades (Rick Riordan), Planet of Love (Richard Siken), The Blood of Olympus (Rick Riordan), Tangerine (Nolune), The Blood of Olympus (Rick Riordan), The Blood of Olympus (Rick Riordan), I Bet On Losing Dogs (Mitski), The Burning Maze (Rick Riordan), @/abhorarchive (Twitter), The Burning Maze (Rick Riordan), Seventeen (MARINA), The Burning Maze (Rick Riordan), @/rollercoasterwords, The Tyrant's Tomb (Rick Riordan), @/the-overanalyst, Where Things Come Back (John Corey Whaley), Grit (Silas Denver Martin), Softcore (The Neighbourhood), The Tower of Nero (Rick Riordan), Frost (Mitski), @/moonbends, I'm Your Man (Mitski), Sun Bleached Flies (Ethel Cain), The Tower of Nero (Rick Riordan), Three (Sleeping At Last), My Art

[somewhereincairparavel]

a huge chunk of the pjo fandom has turned into such a superficial, judgemental and PROBLEMATIC group who defeat the purpose and point that the books were trying to make, it's so fucking atrocious. the prime example of mischaracterizing/reducing the value of characters who are already misunderstood/misjudged in canon. this fandom does this to every.single.character.ever omg

percy jackson is so relatable to many people is because he didn't have to capacity to absorb textbook knowledge but was HIGH on street smart knowledge that got him to succeed. the whole point of his character is that he had low self esteem because he was ridiculed at school by the faculty and the students for being a 'dumb' and 'useless' guy that made him think he's an inconvenience to his mom. the baggage he carried is so overlooked.

the fandom saying stuff like 'annabeth had adhd and dyslexia too but she carried percy' is so fucking disrespectful. one, she's an athena kid who's supposed to be smart that's like the whole point, and that does NOT mean percy wouldn't survive without her. he's a DIFFERENT character and he doesn't need to be a scholar to be a powerful demigod who has his own identity. stop belittling him and comparing all of their adhd/dyslexia struggles. just because annabeth is smarter does NOT mean percy has less value than her, and that whatever comes out of his mouth is just silly gibberish, which is exactly what y'all are trying to imply. no he did NOT get by with just "luck" he's smart and capable enough to actually achieve things. It isn't rocket science.

making jokes like his only purpose is to have a goofy personality and wondering how he 'pulled' annabeth is NOT cute whatsoever. just deprives him of his canon developement and fails to recognise him as an important person because he is not book smart. the level of belittlement. in a way rick also contributes to this character assassination because he added another scene of piper saying something along the lines of 'thank god annabeth is there to keep percy from going wild/doing something stupid' like no miss girl

I could go on about how the fandom infantilizes nico, brushes of hazel's flaws/traits because she's a 'smol' bean (when she literally cusses out octavian, why do y'all hate the idea of her being bold/badass when she literally is??) belittling frank's power because he's 'just an innocent goof', saying stuff like 'in my head leo is a tall guy because rick did him dirty with the height when he is so hot' that's basically implying that he loses his attractiveness because he's short and wanting to confine him into those toxic masculinity standards

slandering rachel and calling her a pick me for liking annabeth as though annabeth already had a claim over percy in BOTL when he wasn't even in a relationship and even had a small liking to rachel (belittling BOTH rachel and percy in the process, is percy not allowed to have feelings too? is he only obligated to like annabeth?), also with the fandom's clear misogyny in their treatment of nico liking percy vs rachel liking percy, go on a moral policing hunt when it comes to jason, piper and percy but goes right ahead to defend and glaze luke's behaviour to annabeth, percy and silena (also victim blaming silena because she was manipulated as a teenager by a fully grown adult who KNEW what he was doing, using her)

stubbornly not wanting to recognise jason as an important character and reducing him into a 'whiney pick me guy who wanted everything to be about himself' and that he's 'boring' not realising that his abusive environment both as a baby and as a teenager suppressed him into struggling and not being able to feel worthy to even have feelings of his own, villianizing and getting on pipers throat for calling percy unimpressive simply because she LOVED and was LOYAL to her then boyfriend?? is she not allowed to have a preference??? heck id be more concerned if she did call percy hot whilst being in a relationship wtf.

and DONT get me started on the grover belittlement and erasure please, saying that percy and grover are only annabeth's 'sidekicks' on quests, as though he wasn't capable to go on a hunt for pan all by HIMSELF not knowing he'll ever be back.

[wanderingmind867]

When you really think about it, Percy Jackson comes off worse than most of the other protagonists in the Heroes of Olympus series. Who wiped Iapetus's memory and then left him to rot? Percy did. Who promised to one day come back for Calypso, only to forget all about her? Percy did. Who asked for recognition for the minor gods, but only cared about a handful of them? Percy.

But you actually visited and checked on Iapetus? Nico. Who actually went back for Calypso? Leo. Who actually made sure all deities got honoured? Jason. Percy never lived up to the potential and the hype that Rick Riordan built around him. He's probably one of the most boring protagonists. I still remember how he initially felt ashamed to have Tyson as a brother. I know that he felt that way because of peer pressure and everything, but it still makes me uncomfortable to think about.

So I think that's my problem with Percy Jackson. Some of his character traits are relatable, but not nearly enough. He feels like a very three dimensional character, but he's also not that relatable to me. Percy was a kid who always got in trouble at school. I'm the kid who never speaks, and subsequently is usually tolerated. I was bullied once in grade 4, but that was it. Most of the time, nobody in school seems to hate me (I suppose it is hard to hate someone who never expresses themself, though). I feel more kinship with Nico di Angelo, Jason Grace, Frank Zhang, etc. I don't hate Percy, but he's not going to be in my top five favorite characters from Rick Riordan's books.

[grandpakronos]

casual plays every time i think about rick not making valgrace canon

[mioakem]

Male character who died at a young age from a disappointing death? Okay okay tell me more. He’s tall and muscular??? Perfect. He’s European and has a thick accent?? Alright bonus but not required. He’s bi but has/had a girlfriend that he loves/loved very much??? Absolutely. He has a male best friend that the majority of the fandom ships him with?? Alright, good but again not required. He has a tough guy persona but is actually a super sweet and kind of goofy and lovable guy??? Well golly gee sign me up

[happyk44]

Jason who immediately loses respect for people who don't own up to their mistakes vs Annabeth who would rather die than admit she made a mistake