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Theories on Will's Parents
Man I love making up theories and headcannons for media intended for children and preteens. Why might you ask? Because often they leave out details on things kids might not understand and only hint at darker themes, leaving ample space for older fans and parents watching with their kids to gather the pieces to make hypotheses on what may be happening off-screen. As a side note, this is why I love the HTTYD franchise in particular, but that is not the victim of today's crazy theory post.
This post is about Will Taggert from Horseland. For those who don't know, Horseland was a show produced in 2006-2008 for children aged 6-12 that follows the life lessons and social skills that Sarah, Molly, Alma, Chloe, Zoey, Bailey, Nani, and Will (to a certain extent) as well as their horses (Scarlett, Calypso, Button, Chilli, Pepper, Aztec, Sunburst, and Jimber) and the animals around the farm (Shep the dog, Teeny the pig, and Angora the cat) learn through episodic stories.
There is a mystery that many fans of this show have explained in various ways surrounding the character of Will. What is up with Will's parents? Why does he never mention them? Why does he live at Horseland with his aunt, uncle, and his cousin Bailey?
As usual let's first look at the evidence the show presents.
Episodic Evidence
In the episodes "Talk, Talk" and "No News is Good News", we can clearly see that Will lives on the Horseland property and has his own bedroom in the ranch house. He is a riding instructor, coach, and grounds maintenance man at Horseland and often takes on responsibilities at the ranch such as special events, organizing and facilitating activities (such as the camping trip in "Fire, Fire Burning Bright", the early morning ride in "No News is Good News", and the Twilight Trek in "Molly and Chilli"), and advising students on proper care for their horses.
Throughout the series, Will never once mentions having parents or having any other family besides Bailey and his aunt and uncle (unless you count his grandfather in the episode "The Secret", who I am 90% sure is dead based on Will's use of the past tense when talking about him).
Okay so not much to work with. There is no hard evidence for his parents being dead or not. Remember, no mention of parents does not mean they are dead, especially with Will being removed from the other MCs (he's older and has a different relationship to them based on his status as a teacher) and only appearing briefly in most episodes or not at all. All we can say with 100% certainty is that if his parents are still in his life, he doesn't live with them and instead lives with his aunt and uncle. This opens the door for fan theories. I will present both common fan theories and theories I have come up with on my own.
Theory 1: Will's parents died and he was adopted by his aunt and uncle
From what I have seen, this is the quintessential fan theory regarding Will's parents. In this theory, Will's parents died when he was young and he was adopted by his extended family, ala his aunt and uncle. From there, he grew up at Horseland with Bailey as his adoptive brother and became part of the family business. I've seen fanfiction where they died in a car accident, they died in a storm while trail riding, etc. I've even read some where Will has siblings that he was seperated from when his parents died and who were adopted by other extended family members. Regardless, his parents are dead, potential siblings live elsewhere, and Will is an honorary member of the Handler household.
Personally, I think this theory is as popular as it is within the Horseland fandom because it readily presents an opportunity for both emotional angst and whumpfic. In fact, Disney is quite partial to using the dead parents card as a tragic backstory for its main characters. Will is an easy character in this fandom to apply this trope to as he is the only main character in Horseland whose parents are not accounted for. (That is, besides Alma's mother; she only ever mentions her father and grandparents). Now that I think about it, alot of these same theories could also fit her as well, except maybe Theory 2 and with the addition of divorce as another possibility. However, this observation does not discredit any validity this theory holds.
Theory 2: Will lives with his aunt and uncle as a job requirement to work at Horseland
In this theory, Will's parents are alive and well. So why does Will live at Horseland? Simple really. Will works with his extended family as onsite staff. Maybe Will's parents (and potential siblings) live far enough away that it makes more sense for him to just live at Horseland. They may even live in another state.
This is even more plausible if you are like me and consider Will to be over 18 yrs old (see my post about Horseland character ages).
In this, Will mostly interacts with his parents and any siblings over the phone and visits them for holidays, special events such as birthdays, graduations, weddings or funerals, or just whenever he has a large chunk of time I suppose. Just infrequent and distanced interaction may be why they are never mentioned.
Theory 3: Will has an estranged relationship with his biological parents
It's unfortunate, but some people just really don't get along well with their immediate family or aren't safe living with their biological parents for one reason or another. It could be anything from something as simple as personality differences or irreconcilable moral beliefs to horrible situations such as child abuse, alcoholism, and/or drug abuse. This can lead to one of two things. The first is the case of a child under the age of 18. In this case, if the home environment of a child is deemed unsafe, any children in the household are removed from the home by Child Protective Services (CPS), parents lose custody and/or go to jail, and the children are placed in the care of another family member or into foster care. This can also happen if the parent(s) are incarcerated for a completely unrelated reason. The other case is estranged adult children. In this case, the child becomes an adult without ever having CPS and the foster care system intervening for whatever reason and moves out, limiting or completely cutting off contact with their parent(s). If either of these is the case leading to the relationship Will has with his parents, then this may be why he lives at Horseland with his aunt and uncle and never mentions his biological parents around his "students".
Conclusion
Because of how little the show actually tells us about the state of the relationship Will has with his parents and any potential siblings, all three of these theories are equally plausible and one can make an argument for any of them. I think all three of them could easily be used in fanfiction as interesting plot devices, and I would be overjoyed to read any of them (although theory 1 is already beating out 2 and 3 in that scope). So now I open the floor to y'all. Which theory do you think is the most plausible? Did I miss any other possible explanations for why Will lives at Horseland and his immediate family is never mentioned?
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Vanessa, Tony, Gregory, and Cassie all have parental issues one way or another
Can anyone have a stable home life PLEASE
#Chip Chatter#Ellis hanging out with his friends while they joke about their home lifes like#âare y'all???? Alright??????â#I could be misremembering but isn't Ellis like the only one of the GGY trio that's not hinted to have a complicated home life or straight u#dead parents?
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conner kent has INCREDIBLE self control, cause if i came back from being dead to find out Tim Drake tried to clone me 99 times because he missed me so much, iâd immediately make him my bride
#and all his parents were dead at that point so no need to ask for their blessings#QUICK MARRY HIM WHILE HIS INSANE FAMILY IS DISTRACTED OR DEAD#like take the win when itâs handed to you#red robin#batman#tim drake#dc#robin#timkon#conner kent#superboy
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#i thiiiink 8.#but i have one coming up in a few days and one next year#i'm also not counting ones that my parents dragged me to that i didn't really want to go to#they took me to a bunch of grateful dead or phish concerts that i don't particularly care about#and also took me to see weird al twice which was fine but like. not something i ever asked for or particularly wanted#ive seen a queen reenactment bandâ marina and the diamondsâ car seat headrestâ idkhowâ MCRâ death cab for cutieâ hot mulligan x2#and i'm seeing PTV in a few days and MCR again next year#my friend bought the PTV tickets and i did a payment plan for MCR LOL i cannot afford these#but i promised my bf i would take him to see MCR if they toured again bc i went to the reunion tour with someone else#polls#submitted#queued#concert#concerts#music#shows#hall of fame
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I saw a post about how Bill "isn't ACTUALLY the villain" of Gravity Falls, given his â¨tragic backstoryâ¨. Y'all know you can be sad and evil at the same time, right? You know Bill maybe feeling kinda bad for his actions does not make him the VICTIM of his own actions, right?
He gleefully drew little doodles of 12-year-olds in puddles of blood and you people are like "but his parents are dead." YEAH. HE KILLED THEM.
#gravity falls#stanford pines#the book of bill#the book of bill spoilers#BoB spoilers#Like maybe the âparents are deadâ part is an accident (there are mixed interpretations there) but the rest of the stuff sure as hell wasn't
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dad issues
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(I think they were all fundamentally affected by what they saw and just collectively decided not to share the upsetting details)
#dungeon meshi#aj art#chilchuck#chilchuck backstory stuff#sorta#comic#tw alchoholism#tw death#tw parent death#dont generally tag for death stuff but in this he straight up dies on screen so I thought I should#Uhh I think they all had extremely grim visions bc I think thatâs sort of the nature of ghost attacks#I mean Laiosâ was basically just him being like âI shouldâve died no one would care if i diedâ#I think Marcilleâs would be. Horrifying. Given all her baggage around death.#Tho iirc this would be before Falinâs backfired resurrection#But anyway the mentioning of his father got me thinking#Since at least judging by Laiosâ vision#They focus on people whoâs death you have baggage around#Especially since Falin wasnât ever like. Dead dead.#And Chilchuck does mention his father multiple times#Specifically he mentions his death and how he died#Like it seems like that specifically is a notable memory for him#Like you never see him like âmy dad taught me to do thisâ#It seems like he remembers his dad *for* his death#So I anyway I made an extremely grim comic about it#beabell
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Love and Obsession: The Tim Drake Way
part 2
Everyone in the Batfamily knows Tim Drake has⌠issues with boundaries. Theyâve spent years trying to teach him whatâs appropriate and whatâsâwellâdeeply unsettling and completely invasive. To be fair, heâs learned. Mostly. He doesnât stalk his family anymore (much), and he no longer pulls up files on every single person they talk to (okay, maybe just sometimes). But itâs progress.
But then Tim starts dating Danny Fenton. And, oh boy, a few screws come loose.
It starts small, as always. Just little things. Timâs a detective, after allâbackground checks are second nature. Dannyâs living in Gotham, and Gotham isnât safe. So, really, whatâs the harm in knowing a little more about Dannyâs friends? And his professors? And maybe also his classmates? Itâs just standard protocol. Okay?
âTim, youâve run a full dossier on my entire biology class?â Danny asks one day, laughing as he flips through a file on the coffee table. Tim shrugs. âWhat if one of them is dangerous?â âPretty sure the most dangerous thing in that class is the midterm.â
Danny doesnât think much of it. Heâs a little flattered, even. Timâs protective. Itâs sweet.
But Timâs mind doesnât stop there. Dannyâs too handsome. Too charming. What if someone tries to hurt him? What if someone tries to take him away? Itâs not obsessiveâitâs just concern. So, a tracker on Dannyâs phone? Necessary. Cameras in his apartment? Standard. Monitoring his sleeping patterns and hangout spots? Logical.
Tim tells himself itâs love. And maybe a little insecurity.
âYou have a tracker on his phone?â Dick asks, trying not to sound alarmed. Tim nods, like itâs the most normal thing in the world. âOf course. What if something happens to him?â âAnd the cameras?â âSafety.â âThe background checks on his professors?â âGotham U isnât exactly known for its stellar staff, Dick.â
It doesnât stop there. Tim knows everything. Dannyâs eating habits, his favorite places to go when heâs stressed, his childhood allergies. Timâs mapped out Dannyâs entire life. He knows about Dannyâs ghost powers tooâof course he does. Heâs Tim Drake. The moment he realized Danny was Phantom, it just⌠clicked.
Danny being half-ghost? Thatâs just one more reason to worry. Timâs up late at night, watching for any signs of ectoplasmic interference. He tracks the energy spikes. He monitors Dannyâs fights.
He doesnât think Danny knows. Heâs terrified of what will happen if he finds out.
But then he does.
One evening, Danny walks into Timâs apartment and casually drops a folder on the table. Timâs heart stops.
âWhatâs this?â Danny asks, raising an eyebrow. Tim swallows hard. âI⌠itâs justâŚâ âYouâve been tracking me?â Danny opens the file, glancing through pages of surveillance reports, background checks, even analysis of his ectoplasmic energy. Tim feels like his world is about to shatter.
âI⌠I can explain,â Tim says, his voice tight. âIâm just⌠worried about you. Youâre in danger all the time, and Iââ Danny walks over, cupping Timâs face in his hands. Tim braces for the worst.
But Danny just smiles. âCan I put a tracker on you too?â
Tim blinks. âWhat?â Danny kisses his cheek. âIf youâre watching my back, itâs only fair I watch yours. I need to make sure youâre safe too.â
Tim stares at him, speechless. Danny doesnât look scared. Or angry. He looks⌠fond. Like Timâs obsessive tendencies arenât a problem at all.
âIâve never had someone care about me this much,â Danny says softly. âI trust you with my life, Tim. This? This just proves how serious you are.â
Tim thinks heâs just fallen deeper in love.
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The Batfamily? Theyâre worried.
Jason corners Tim in the cave. âOkay, so let me get this straight. Youâve got cameras in his apartment. Youâve mapped out his entire life. Youâve got a tracker on him and a heartbeat monitor. And heâs⌠fine with it?â Tim nods, a dreamy smile on his face. âYeah. He even wants to put a tracker on me.â âThatâs not⌠healthy, Tim,â Dick says carefully. âThatâsââ âItâs mutual,â Tim interrupts. âWeâre protecting each other.â
Bruce pinches the bridge of his nose. âTim, this isnât how relationships are supposed to work.â Tim shrugs. âItâs how ours works.â
Damian watches the whole thing with narrowed eyes. âThis is deeply unsettling,â he mutters.
They try to talk to Danny. Intervention style. They invite him over, sit him down, and gently (or not so gently) try to explain that Timâs behavior isnât normal.
Danny just laughs. âYou guys do know Iâm half-ghost, right?â âThat doesnât meanââ Dick starts. âI spent my entire life being hunted by ghost hunters. Iâve had worse invasions of privacy.â Danny smiles. âTim cares. He keeps me safe. Thatâs all I need.â
The bats don't quite know what to say.
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Tim and Danny, two slightly unhinged souls who think mutual surveillance is the ultimate act of love.
The bats? Theyâre just trying to keep up.
(âAt least theyâre happy?â Barbara offers weakly. Bruce sighs. âFor now.â)
Gothamâs version of love was never going to be normal. But this? This is a whole new level.
#tim drake#danny phantom#danny fenton#brain dead#dead tired#dc x dp#batfam#tim drake is a stalker#we've completely watered down tim's stalking tendencies into /just/ stalking when he also learned everything there was to learn about batma#this guy is literally obsessed with knowing everything about everyone(even if it's to have the upper hand) and we completely disregard it#give me an invasive tim drake who doesn't know the first thing about boundaries bcs he's so used to researching everything about someone#before meeting them#also give me a danny fenton who has never truly felt safe or protected with anyone especially after he died in his own parents lab#while his friends watched with no supervision or lab precautions#tim learning everything about him for his own safety and protective(obsessive) tendencies makes him feel safe with tim#bcs it proves to him that tim is always watching his every step to make sure he's safe no matter where in the world either of them are#tim is always watching out for him#and if that isn't the most romantic thing someone could do for him then romance is dead#the bats are very concerned for them#tim and danny match each other's freak
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sirius and/or regulus telling a story: "when i was little..."
remus and james: *braces for the absolute worse*
#sirius/regulus would be like âyour parents didn't lock you in your room with no food or drink for three days?â#and remus and james would just stare horrified and be like âno????â#sirius black#regulus black#remus lupin#james potter#the marauders#marauders#dead gay wizards#the black brothers#wolfstar#jegulus#starchaser
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How helpy tested out the FNAF pizza sim attractions
#myart#chloesimagination#comic#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#micheal afton#helpy#fnaf pizzeria simulator#pizza sim#fnaf fanart#Helpy found dead in hurricane Utah#I THINK about this pizza sim mini game way too often#like Michael and Helpy were testing out these attractions#so thinking of Michael tossing his dear baby boy#and missing the target is so đ#Helpy is okay! Michael is just a dramatic parent due to trauma#Michael really should of been cheap with his purchases though BAHA#Helpy is just Michaelâs lil guy he doesnât want to hurt them đ
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Thereâs a new drug in Gotham making the rounds, one synthesized by Two-Faceâs people; if you take it you will have a 50/50 chance that youâll experience the greatest high of your life or that youâll die.
Batman is desperately trying to find the main lab and cut off the production from the source and hasnât been able to find a lead in weeks.
Thatâs when Gordon gives him a file that was given to him by a âwhite haired ghost kidâ. Itâs a detailed report written similarly to a scientific journal with detailed sources that are mainly first hand accounts from deceased victims of the Two-Face drug.
At the very end of the paper thereâs an address to a Gotham University dorm room with a sticky note next to it that says âif you need help with death or the undead. Yours truly; Danny Fenton.â
#guys look at the tags Iâm too lazy to add it to the main post#my thoughts as to why Danny hated English is because heâs helped write so many scientific papers for his parents the writing style#is ingrained into his day to day writing. this time tho he was trying to be professional for The Batman#he doesnât want to step on Batmanâs territory but since he now lives in Gotham might as well give the main powerhouse a#âhigh just letting you know Iâm in your city nowâ gift#he doesnât even try to hide his identity because he knows that Batman will find it eventually.#might as well help and fulfill his obsession as a consultant to the Bats#Batman now asks Danny to help with communing with the dead to help solve cases#dpxdc#danny phantom#dp x dc#bones prompts#bones writes in the tags
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Being someone who read Under The Red Hood and came out with the firm belief that, for Jason, it's not about killing Joker, it's about Jason wanting proof Batman would choose him over the Joker (bc shelia chose the joker). Makes seeing any other media where it's all about just wanting the Joker dead is a teeny bit frustrating. to be honest
Jason could've killed the Joker himself, really, really easily. Jason kidnaps the Joker before the confrontation. I can't open my comic for a reference right now, but it felt like he had the Joker for quite a bit before the confrontation. He had him. He beat him up with a crowbar. He had every single opportunity to kill the Joker himself, but he didn't because that wasn't his goal. Make no mistake, he did plan for the Joker to be dead by the end of it, but do you see what im trying to say here
Edit: If I knew this post was gonna get 1000+ notes I would've tried to word it better or something, this was a rant I made on the way to the grocery store đ
It's not about making Batman kill either. When Batman says he won't kill, Jason adjusts and goes, 'Let ME kill the Joker or kill me to stop me' instead. The test is all about Batman choosing him. The whole final confrontation is Jason's first death again. The parent, The Joker, and the explosives. It even ends with Jason unable to move as a bomb goes off right next to him again because the parent didn't choose Jason. And instead tried finding an option that'd benefit them and (consequencely) letting the Joker walk, again, lol, lmao <-in agony
#the final confrontation was basically his first death again#and YES he Does want the Joker dead#and it would've been really really nice if Batman was the one who did it#but when batman made it clear he wouldn't kill the joker. Jason easily switched to saying âLET me kill the jokerâ to accommodate#because he Wanted batman to pass his test#he gave a test to dick too. and technically tim but it wasnt the family test it was a different one so it doesnt rly count#AFTER utrh and the reveal and the batarang you can go hog wild about it. i care less about it then#granted i do believe they make jason more scared of the joker after it at some point#i guess because hes a bit too willing to kill the joker and ive heard jason wasnt meant to live after utrh#my watsonian explain for that is he was so fixated on his plan he cpuld override his fear. or maybe the pit. either work#i prefer the fixation bc i dont like the explanation that the pit was the /only/ reason he could get all plan together and done#BUT THATS UNRELATED!!!#dc stop putting the joker in jason stories im begging you please please please. lock him in a vault for the next 20 years or something#it Cpuld be good and i understand. but also. after so long of people that dont know or go for jasons need for family and parents#that love him and he can trust#the joker starts to feel like?? hm. words. a cop out? oh haha its that guy that killed him woagh hes here#i bet you dont even know that jaybin got beat until unconsciousness by an angry mob#while asking batman to save him only for batman to have to walk away#anwya. where was i going with this#i think i got off topic#jason todd#dc comics#batman#ADDED AN EDIT. SORRY. this post has been haunting me it keeps me awake. what if people misunderstand#they cant read my tags where i ramble more depth. thisbis the only option#EDIT EDIT: hiii#removed the sentence abt jason having the joker for several days bc i misremembered some things#go read its-your-mind 's addition instead also#ok no more i wont edit this post anymore i promise
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Regulus: Sirius⌠Iâm gay
Sirius *excited*: can I tell Walburga? Cause this WILL kill her
#walburga black#Ending the bloodline in the name of homosexuality#the marauders#marauders#regulus black#sirius black#the black brothers#sirius orion black#mauraders#wolfstar#jegulus#gay regulus black#dead gay wizards#dead gay wizards from the 70s#gay sirius black#sirius#sirius and regulus#sirius being sirius#walburga#walburga's a+ parenting#marauders era
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It's a Terrible Cover Story, Really :/
DP x DC AU where, when trying to make a cover story for why Jason is suddenly legally alive again, Bruce (and the rest of the fam) come up with a story that they had found the body of a child that looked just like 15 year old Jason after he had gone missing and went straight into greif stricken panic and assumed to worst! Jason had come back to them later (let's say he's 22/23 here) after recovering from amnesia, and DNA tests confirmed it's him. They claim they exhumed the body and had the DNA tested and it came back (and they make this name up, completely believing that, since enough people have similar names, this won't come back to bite them) as Danny Fenton.
It's plastered all over the news and it makes it's way back to Jack and Maddie fast: who are now completely convinced their son died on a breif trip they took to Gotham 7 years ago and came back as a ghost who just didn't know he was dead. When they try to bring up the topic with Danny, as gently as they could, they wind up learning that he's Phantom and start to think it's a split personality type deal. One is their son trying to greave his own death and failing because he thinks he's still alive, and the other is their son trying to live up to them as ghost hunters and trying to be the hero his kid self must have thought they were. They're torn up and grief stricken and try contacting Bruce about retrieving their sons body.
Bruce is freaking out because he thinks he just convinced people who may have been looking for their son for years that their kid is dead (and maybe he is! Oh god!) And Amity Park nonsense is keeping him from finding anything about the (half) living Danny, now attending community college.
Jack and Maddie are freaking out because they don't want to let go of their son, but also this can't be healthy for any of them or for Danny's soul, he needs to move on and they need time to rethink everything they've ever thought about ghosts to grieve.
And Danny's freaking out because he thinks Brucie Wayne, ditz extraordinaire (unless his kids are involved), clueless to a fault, Brucie, somehow figured out he was a ghost and outed him to his parents???? Not cool man!
#dc x dp#au idea#danny phantom#batman#batfam#jason todd#danny fenton#bruce wayne#Jack and Maddie can be good parents#AND still think their son is a full ghost#jack fenton#maddie fenton#your choice of ship but i think Dead on Main would be hilarious for this#could be serious or fun#jason todd x danny fenton
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#The Strict Parent vs. The Easy Going Parent
#dead#the strict parent vs the easy going parent#clearly we know who is who#911 abc#married#love#christopher diaz#ryan guzman#oliver stark#buddie#buck x eddie#eddie diaz#evan buckley#4x3#7x7#eddie x buck
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This was literally all I could think during that scene.
#dead boy detectives#dead boy detectives spoilers#edwin payne#charles rowland#crystal palace#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#makes more sense when you know her parents are neglectful performance artists#But still#she does not have room to talk shit about anyoneâs names#glass houses#dead boy detectives fanart
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Harry, jumping out of Regulusâ closet: BOO!
Regulus:
Harry:
Regulus:
Harry: *makes a sad face*
Regulus: Ahh Merlin you scared me!!
#marauders#marauders era#the marauders#dead gay wizards#slytherin skittles#marauders incorrect quotes#regulus black#jegulus#james potter#regulus a black#regulus arcturus black#harry potter#harry and regulus#regulus and harry#baby harry potter#baby harry#jegulus parents#harry james potter#source: tumblr
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