#Crowley in Marnie

[dtennantfashion]

David is rewearing his Marni Sweater w/ Paul Smith Jeans (both no longer available) + Red Adidas Copa Super Suede Shoes

[winchestergifs]

Queer Characters of SPN

21/30 ❥˚⁀➴ Marnie, Marnie’s Husband, Deb & Dale

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

Before we saw Crowley's demon eyes, someone had the theory that the crossroads demon, Dean made a deal with in "All Hell Breaks Loose" 2x21 and 2x22 was actually Crowley

Honestly? I don't blame them for thinking that. The actress would make a great pre human blood lady!Crowley. Remember that this theory was before we knew that Crowley's demon eyes have black pupils in the middle of the red, whereas her eyes don't

Marnie makes a great post human blood lady!Crowley

[siobhans-world]

Rockstar Crowley 🖤🤘

Lovely Marnie asked me to draw this and gift it to @feraltuxedo for their fanfic Intermezzo. I don't really do commissions but I HAD to do this, because Intermezzo is fantastic. If you haven't read it yet, bookmark it:

[nieded]

what are Ezira and AJ like on a long road trip? Which car from their garage would they take? What snacks do they bring? Which one gets pulled over for going eighty in a thirty?

aj and ezira did go on a road trip across california when they were first starting out as a couple! though of course, it would have taken a lot of work to import a car to the states, and so they had a rental. if they could have taken one of their cars, they would have settled on the la ferrari, which could handle the switchbacks of the serria nevada.

maybe someday they will take the road trip that newt and ligur talked about from montpellier to cologne.

the actual reality is that they would take the gti, if they had a choice from their own garage. hypercars are notoriously unreliable. they are not meant for road trips. they aren't really meant to be driven, honestly. replacing brakes on a la ferrari (which is a common maintenance item!!!) costs 40k. the SO works next door to an italian repair shop that exclusively does ferraris, lambos, alfas, and fiats. they have had a lamborghini aventador sitting in the shop for months because it requires a new set of special tires, which they only release every couple of years. so it's just waiting for a random shipment that may or may not come in the next year. the lifespan on hypercars for maintenance items like oil changes and brakes are much much shorter than the average car.

also, where would their luggage go? they will definitely need boot space. crowley's a pain to fly with because he always has extra luggage for stuff: skincare, haircare, nail polish, nail polish remover, extra hats that he will not wear, extra shoes that he will also not wear, but he has them just in case they do the beach or a hike. (and still, he wears his boots.) chargers for his electronics and back up batteries just in case. and weed. road trips are excellent when transporting the goods.

but crowley has no opinion on snacks. thankfully, ezira has all the opinions on snacks. healthy choices such as snacking peppers and carrots and seaweed chips to just cake. lots of biscuits. he has a kettle in the back so they can make periodic petrol stops to boil hot water. and should they stop and pick up more ice for the cooler? just in case? and in the end, they only eat half of it because every four hours, he's on google maps researching local restaurants and cafes for nibbles.

and realistically, neither of them will get pulled over for speeding, but if one of them had to, it'd be crowley. ezira hates driving around civilians. it's much safer to be going 190 on a race track. but average joes are unpredictable. get off your phone! use the indicator (to the beemer, i'm looking at you). oops you missed your exit and are now crossing six lanes of interstate... everybody's out here being lance stroll. ezira absolutely hates it, and if you spend 15 minutes on r/idiotsincars, you will too. there's very little ezira sticks his nose up at, but civilians. *shudders*

but they wouldn't drive over the speed limit, not too much. that's for work. crowley will take it slow through the alps so ezira can take pictures of the clear blue lakes and snow-capped mountains. they'll take turns with the bluetooth, donna summer and pink floyd for crowley, abba and death cab for ezira, and they'll talk about the race season and the spots they want to revisit in america and italy and japan. they'll wonder what ceres has destroyed at marnie and lili's and what the nibling is up to. if she's crawling yet because that means she's almost walking and if she's running they can stick her in a go kart.

but the silence would be good too at night, windows down, one of crowley's feet out the window when it's ezira's turn to drive (less people, more deer, but he will take his chances). and they'll stop on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere between two cities and look up and up and up at the sky, stars twinkling above. and crowley will think about how he's crossed finish lines filled with fireworks, stood on the platform in monza once upon a time when the tifosi flooded the track, sat in the cockpits of wheeled rocketships, unbelievable feats of engineering from mankind, and think nothing could compare to the darkest night in the quiet with his beloved.

it's not about going fast. it's about drawing it out, sitting in the cabin with each other and no one else, as if they could sneak one more minute, one more hour together before they're pulled across the globe in opposite directions. they love it. they love the racing and the adrenaline and the fireworks (but not the jet lag and missed calls and wondering if the other is sleeping ok). they love that feeling of peeling their racing gloves off after hours of sweating and swearing, the long drink of water after a long drive. but. but they love each other more.

[the-cat-at-the-theatre-door]

I know that at least two Jellylorums were also Christines in "Phantom" (Marni Raab and Sara Jean Ford)--would you happen to know who some of the others were?

Are you looking specifically for Jellylorums that were previously Christines, or more like the general Phantom - CATS or CATS - Phantom pipeline? I can give you a decent list of both, since we'd be atom smashing two hyperfixations together.

Format: NAME OF PERFORMER - Role in Phantom (Role in Cats)

Sorted by part played in PotO - I won't be naming all locations of productions these individuals were in for the sake of some kind of brevity. Since you asked mainly for Jellylorums who have been Christine, I have taken the liberty to BOLD them for easy reference.

(Note that this is not an extensive list - just a bulky one - I was already getting too long in the tooth haha)

MAIN TRIO

Sarah Brightman - Christine Daaé (Jemima - OLC)

Nikki Ankara - Christine Daaé (UK 1st Tour) (Jellylorum - London)

Celia Graham - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - RCCL, Palladium, UK Tour 2016 etc)

Theresa Borg - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - Circus Tour 1999)

Maree Johnson - Christine Daaé (Guest Grizabella - Circus Tour 2000)

Myrra Malmberg - Christine Daaé (Young Grizabella - Gothenburg 1989 non-replica)

Katie Knight-Adams - Christine Daaé (Swing - UK Tour 1993, Jemima - London)

Mia van den Eykel - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - Aus/Asia Tour 1995)

Iren Bartok - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - London)

Zoe Curlett - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - UK Tour 2003 - 2009)

Debra Stables - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - London)

Josie Walker - Christine Daaé (Grizabella - London and UK Tour 1993)

Renée Knapp - Christine Daaé (Jennyanydots/Griddlebone - Amsterdam)

Lydia Gerrard - Cover Christine (Cover Jellylorum and Grizabella - Asia Tour 2022)

Marti Webb - Christine Daaé (Grizabella - London)

Colleen Besett - Christine Daaé (Jennyanydots - Berlin and Dusseldorf)

Els Bongers - Christine Daaé (Booth Singer - Amsterdam)

Teresa de Zarn - Christine Daaé (Sillabub - Broadway)

Diane Fratantoni - Christine Daaé (Swing - Broadway, cover Cassandra, Etcetera, Grizabella, Jellylorum / Griddlebone, Rumpleteazer, Sillabub)

Marina Prior - Christine Daaé (Jellylorum - Sydney 1985)

Steve Barton - Raoul/The Phantom - (Munkustrap Original Vienna)

Richard Todd Adams - Raoul/The Phantom (Cats Chorus)

Jeremy Hays - Raoul (The Rum Tum Tugger)

Bronson Norris Murphy - Raoul/Others - (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Brad Little - The Phantom (Old Deuteronomy)

Mark McKerracher - The Phantom (Old Deuteronomy)

Pierre-Yves Duchesne - The Phantom (Old Deuteronomy)

Ian Jon Bourg - The Phantom (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Ethan Freeman - The Phantom (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Peter Polycarpou - The Phantom (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Scott Davies - The Phantom (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Phyllida Crowley Smith - Meg Giry (Victoria)

Emma Harris - Meg Giry (Victoria)

Emmanuelle Guélin - Meg Giry (Victoria)

 Karin Seyfried - Meg Giry (Jennyanydots)

Julie Carlton - Meg Giry (Electra)

Sharyn Winney - Meg Giry Understudy/Ballet Corps (Tantomile, Sillabub, Swing)

Kathleen Mullin - Meg Giry (Rumpleteazer, Swing)

Kimberley Partridge - Meg Giry (Jemima)

Jeehyun Noh - Meg Giry (Jemima)

Claire Lander - Meg Giry (Jemima)

OTHER PARTS

Peter Kevoian - Monsieur Reyer (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Greg Castiglioni - Ubaldo Piangi (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Tony McGill - Assistant Conductor (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Andrew Keelan - Passarino (Walking Cover/Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Wim Van Den Driessche - Monsieur Firmin (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

Gareth Snook - Monsieur Andre (Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher)

John Dewar - Swing (Asparagus/Gus/Growltiger)

John Ellis - Ubaldo Piangi (Old Deuteronomy)

Nathan Patrick Morgan - Jeweler/Ubaldo Piangi Cover (Swing, Chorus, Asparagus/Gus/Bustopher, Old Deuteronomy, etc)

Saverio Pescucci - Dancer/Ensemble (Alonzo)

Sharon Wheatley - Replacement Page/Swing (Jennyanydots)

Katharine Heaton - Swing and Understudy (Swing/Jellylorum)

Karl Morgan - Dancer in the 2004 Film (Pouncival 1998)

Chrissy Brooke - Ballet Girl (Chorus Cat in 2019 Film)

Marisa Paull Gorst - Dancer/Ballet Girl (Swing)

Marise Dusheiko - Ballet Girl (Victoria)

Harriet Ho Yin Chung - Ballet Girl (Swing)

Myrthes Monteiro - Ensemble (Jemima)

Lucius Wolter - Ensemble (Walking Cover)

Matt McFarlane - Understudy Phantom/Raoul in Love Never Dies (Munkustrap)

Bradley Delarosbel - Unknown (Likely Ensemble) (Admetus/Macavity)

Stephen Morgante - Unknown - likely ensemble (Skimbleshanks/Swing)

Anton Luitingh - Resident Director/Possibly Played Raoul (Munkustrap)

And technically, Jack Rebaldi was supposed to play Monsieur André in the Theatre Mogador production of PotO, but that was tragically cut short and never came to fruition (justice for that cast).

[yourfandomfriend]

Mr. Crowley Takes a Detour || SPN Theory

How do you hide a "coming out" scene from Standards and Practices?

Ooookay. I've debated as to whether or not I should post this for years, as it is a straight-up loony toon conspiracy theory. I have no proof, and it's probably very easy to debunk. I would not die on this hill. But is it too much to ask for a lovely picnic?

In the season 11 premiere, Crowley has a story that -- while very in character for him -- is very strange for SPN. Picking up from where the previous cliffhanger left off, Crowley is put in a very tight spot.

Rowena has immobilized him and hexed Castiel to go all attack dog. He's in great danger! The fight of his life...

...For thirty seconds, at which point he possesses a woman we've never seen before and has an orgy with some very boring suburbanites.

Character-wise, this is huge. Crowley had always been implied to be queer but they'd never come right out and canonized it by having him shtupp dudes in the plot. But main story-wise, this is a jarring, alienating waste of time. Why? Why have the scenes where Crowley breaks out of the closet happen in a meatsuit we aren't used to, a room full of people we don't know, a place with no significance, and a C-plot where nothing has any relevance to the A-plot?

Well, I have a crazy theory.

Imagine you're Jeremy Carver. You're about to leave SPN mid-season to start your own series, (we all remember Frequency, right? ...Right?) but before you do, you'd like to tie up some loose ends, among them, busting Crowley out of his tissue paper closet. But there's a little thing called Standards & Practices that would never let you get away with it.

After all, Crowley's not some random vic-of-the-week or peripheral lesbian. He's a main character. He's a male character. A main male character on a show with other main male characters, to whom he says very flirty, very dirty things, constantly.

He's even locked lips with two guys, mostly on screen! Making him canonically queer might threaten the CW veneer of the show so there's no way S&P isn't watching our boy like hawks.

But there's also a little thing called "VFX." In case something has to be cut out or rewritten, most VFX-heavy shows are gonna have to get S&P approval before they spend millions on effects, meaning -- if you're clever -- you have the teensiest, tiniest bit of wiggle room in post-production.

So you write a version of the script with S&P in mind: Crowley hits the floor, smokes out, but eventually comes back.

Meanwhile, this new character, Marnie, gets possessed by some random, unnamed demon and has an orgy, kills said orgy, and then has a meeting with Crowley's minions before disappearing from the show forever. (Crowley's name is never spoken in the dialogue for Marnie's scenes, btw. Not once.)

Now everyone who watches the show might pause for thought if they read a script like that or saw the pre-VFX scenes, but if you're just some bean counter at S&P who cares not a nip for the series continuity, nothing would seem out-of-place.

And that whole thing "Crowley gets DP'd" story beat would fly completely over your head.

Of course, once visual effects are in place, it becomes obvious who possessed Marnie, but by the time anyone at the network finds out what you did, the episode has already aired. If they make a stink, they have to say why. And so what? You've already got one foot out the door and into Frequency.

Or better yet, Doom Patrol, where you don't have to pull off a VFX magic trick to make a main male character officially queer.

[deanhisnippleisout]

remember how crowley considers himself the hannah to sams marnie? i love season 8

[dtennantfashion]

David is wearing this Marni striped mohair sweater $1,250 (it's 50% off right now at $625) multiple times in Feb/March 2024

My dupe of it from aliexpress arrived to day, it is not an 100% match on color but it is very soft and similar. If I find a better one, I will let y'all know.

[420technoblazeit]

hsut the fuck up all of tfw is trans. angels havign no gender? cas' first vessel being a woman??? he's so enby it's unreal. dean's complicated relationship with his masculinity??? htat boy is trans. look at sam and tell me he's cis. that right there is a she/her lesbian. the amount of times that crowley's jokingly referred to himself as a woman? that one time he possessed marnie??? TRANS. THEYRE ALL TRANS

[luulapants]

Whoops I accidentally made season 11 a one day poll too

[dandelioncasey]

Tagged by @aspecbuddie ✌️ thanks for the tag, these are always fun!

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Shuffle your on repeat playlist and list the first 10 songs!

(there is no rhyme or reason to this this playlist is just my favourite songs lmao)

Love Story But It's Gay (Reinaeiry)

Don't Make Me (Malinda K Reese)

Not My Father's Son (Billy Porter + Stark Sands)

It's My Life (Marny Kennedy)

1000 Light Years Away (Chelsea Lee Greenwood)

Storm the Castle (Jonathan Young)

Twenty Something in Twenty Nineteen (Kira Kosarin)

Neath: A Fallen London Musical (The Stupendium)

Drinking Song For The Socially Anxious (The Amazing Devil)

I Am Not Nothing (Beth Crowley)

What does this selection say about me? I don't know! Would I recommend every single one of these songs? Absolutely!

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Your top 15 favourite shows can say a lot about your personality (list your top 15 shows)

(no idea what order these go in, what they say about me, or if I even have fifteen favourite anything to be honest - let's go!)

9-1-1

9-1-1 Lone Star

Criminal Minds

Hannibal

Sarah Jane Adventures

Torchwood

The Witcher

The Sandman

Supernatural

The Magicians

Teen Wolf

Shadowhunters

Buffy The Vampire Slayer

White Rabbit Project

Cook At All Costs

Honestly I would only recommend maybe three of these at most lmao, I never said I have good taste! (but seriously i grew up with SJA and it sucks that barely anyone has heard of it in comparison to the other spinoffs)

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[nieded]

I hc that Marnie and Lil eventually have a kid and Ezira and Crowley are the most amazing uncles.

hahaha this so funny because I also headcanon this except replace amazing with chaotic

you would think crowley would be the one who teaches said child all the bad things and risky behavior but he panics whenever he is around a small human. he is 75% certain this child will die on his watch, or at minimum, vomit.

meanwhile, ezira is asking how soon can they get them in a go kart. the child can't walk yet

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[mpregspn]

correct me if i'm wrong but it was AFTER sam almost cured crowley. after you're my marnie, moose. right.

[iknow-becauseiwasthere]

SPN Season 8 rewatch thoughts

- Currently my least favorite season (post season 5 I think it goes 7, 6, 8) The plot is at least coherent but I hate Benny and Amelia. Both as characters and their use as devices to cause tension between my boys.

- Even though the plot is coherent it’s pointless bc they don’t even complete the trials!!!! Can demons be cured? We still don’t know!

- We also get information about Cas basically being alive forever and continually having his memory wiped and angel mind control that I don’t remember getting revisited?

- Kevin is the bright spot but he is like GOING THROUGH IT and is basically abandoned

- if the fandom didn’t love Cas when I watched I honestly and am unsure how I’d feel about him he is soooo stupid at the end of this season. And mean to Kevin which is not cool!

- Crowley remains the smartest character. Team Crowley. Abbadon is meh. Does she use that “tell me what you see” thing ever again?

- this season is when Sam became my favorite. Dean is so mean to him at the start of the season and is such a little brat about it.

- Garth/Southern Comfort another bright spot but again Dean is such a dick!

-Charlie/LARP and the Real Girl Another bright spot and Dean is not a dick in this ep!

- I forget if Goodbye Stranger is when Meg actually dies but what a lame way for her to go

- I do like the plot line of Cas hiding out in a chain restaurant to escape angels

- I can’t believe Abbadon comes back because the boys WILLINGLY STITCH HER BACK TOGETHER

- oh I do love Crowley talking about Girls! And calling Sam Marnie to his Hannah!

- Still can’t believe Benny had to die, Sam had to almost die, and the gates of hell were almost closed just for these guys to talk about their feelings! Men!

- the shot of the angels getting cast out is great! I do like that plotline