#Bruce deserved to be loved like this
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"Eventually, I will no longer drown from the overflowing of an empty cup"
Pre-Morrison Talia would be the kind of love poets would write for.
Talia al Ghul, with all her history, faults, and flaws, have no means to have had so much love for the people she cherish. But she does...she does.
"We are immortals, Habibi. When others say they love forever, they lie. But we don't have the same luxury. For people like us, forever means eternity, beyond death and even after. It is a curse, my heart. Our curse. For such promise meant to taint such noble feelings— And yet, I will never apologize for loving you."
"Boy Wonder" (2024) #4 by Juni Ba.
#I hate how this is not canon#HC that this is set in pre-morrison & pre-winick universe#Pre-Morrison Talia al Ghul#Talia al Ghul#Batman#Bruce Wayne#Juni Ba triggerrd my sentimentallity#Do you see how we were robbed!? So it should have not have surprised people if talia fans gets defensive#Dc comics#Fanart#Brutalia#Lots of writers tried to redeem Talia...but it just dont stick coz how do you forgive this wrong??? You can't#That's why it will never hapen and I have made peace with that#So I'll just ignore canon and make fanarts on this corner of the internet#This comics makes me feral...dear lord i am in tears#Fudge it#Bruce deserved to be loved like this#And Talia deserved a requited love#But its forever gone now
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POV: You're the oldest sibling
it's tough being the oldest.
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#it's tough being a single mom. especially when youre a man with no children.#give me a dick grayson who's always on the precipice of either strangling his siblings or showering them with love#im not really a ''tim drake is a coffee addict'' truther however i do think he should be an absolute diva when it comes to food orders#that single period that dick sends is that 10% of rage that just barely seeped thru#also dude's like 30 he def does not understand the slang of the youth ''lock in?? tf does that mean??''#also my girl stephanie deserves to be smart asf!! i wanna see her thriving#social media au#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#jason todd#stephanie brown#tim drake#batkids#nightwing#red hood#spoiler#red robin#duke thomas#signal#bruce wayne#batman#batdad#dc comics#twitter#tweets#texts#incorrect quotes#fanatical posting
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I just think
It’d be really neat if Danny looked more like Martha Wayne than Thomas Wayne.
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I love the Danny Fenton looks like Thomas Wayne or Danny Fenton is Thomas Wayne reincarnated — but the BEAUTY of Martha??
Of Alfred interacting for under five minutes with Danny, dabbing his eyes and going, “That is indeed Martha,” I WANT IT. I want Martha who was spunky and sassy and wanted to do good for her town the same way Danny wants to do good for Amity Park.
I want Martha who loved to take Bruce and the family out to star gaze because her baby had never seen the stars before, and the way his eyes light up like a mini galaxy takes her breathe away the same way that Danny feels when he turns his head up to the sky yearning for something he knew loved but doesn’t know what.
I want Martha who would literally find trouble in a paper bag because she can’t help her curiosity the same way Danny can’t help tripping over his own ghostly tail and making a mess of things before he figures things out.
I want Martha who would fight men who thought they held power, going absolutely feral from stress the same way Danny does when he’s tired of not being able to do his homework or pick up a vacuum against the wall to clean because ghosts.
I want Martha who loved the pearl necklace that Bruce had picked out for her birthday, and Danny reaches towards his neck and startles when his fingers only touch skin when he is certain there was something supposed to be there. I want Danny whose eyes linger on whites and pearls when he passes by open window stores in the mall, fingers itching to flick a nail against the smooth surfaces.
I want Martha who died bleeding underneath the hand of a gun, hoping to everything above that her boy would be safe, and Danny whose body burns at merely looking at the makeshift guns his parents create in the lab, his heart pounding desperately with a yearning to save there was someone she wanted to save the ghosts.
#dpxdc#dp x dc#dc x dp#dcxdp#danny phantom#dp x dc crossover#danny fenton#dp x dc prompt#I just think Danny being Martha is a deserved little treat#also#mom! Danny#let Martha Wayne be feral#she became the joker in a different universe when Bruce died and Danny became Dan when all his loved ones died like???#CONNECTION#let them both be so brilliant and yet so dumb#two wet cats that will primly lick at their fur before setting their tail on fire on a candle#by accident#Danny being a mom to Bruce on instinct is also precious to me#Bruce being torn because: that’s a kid but that is also my mom#on the other hand Danny could have also reincarnated into Martha instead of Martha into Danny#whatever works honestly#so long as Danny gets to mother hen Bruce and smother him in love#and also have both Alfred and Thomas just rolling their eyes as Martha tries desperately not to swing a wine bottle#Martha and Danny will either stress clean or stress fight#pick and choose your fight (ง’̀-‘́)ง
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girl experiences gender euphoria and is immediately slammed by grief
for @litttlittt <3. this was supposed to be a portrait of caroline hill, but litta mentioned tim looking like janet when dressed as caroline and identity issues and angst and things spiraled
something about tim not knowing if he's his mother's child or bruce's or neither's.
figuring out the looks:
i wanted janet to have that poofy 70s hair
#tim drake#dc#bruce wayne#janet drake#sart#i'm picturing this as transfemme tim hence “he” and also compounding issues about bruce treating him as a daughter#which is exactly the gender validation tim wants and needs but isnt sure he deserves#but this also definitely works for trans tim#she gets to process that she looks like her mom!! and her mom will never get to know her daughter#would she have wanted to know her daughter? even though she showered tim with love when she was around#she barely knew her son#gender idk he's a girl 👍 hope that helps#i went down a rabbit hole looking up vintage dior necklaces -- hopefully something martha wayne wouldve worn#-- but dior necklaces are COMPLICATED#i almost drew pearls but i think that wouldve been too cruel to bruce lol#(a decent amount of my art--even when it's not femme tim--gets tagged 'gender' and i dont know what im going but im glad 👍)
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I find the fact that the confrontation at the end of UTRH is often summarized as Jason asking Bruce to kill the Joker for him fascinating.
Because that's not what happened.
Jason holds a gun up to Joker's head, gives Bruce another, and tells him that if Bruce doesn't do something (shoot Jason), he will kill Joker.
Jason doesn't give the gun to Bruce so that he would shoot Joker. He isn't expecting Bruce to pull the trigger on the clown. He's asking Bruce to do nothing. To be inactive. Because that will still be a choice, and despite having done nothing, everybody clearly agrees that Bruce would still, at least in part, be responsible for Joker's death.
...And to me, this moment is a kind of- microcosm, of the rest of Jason's point. Because after being captured and carted off to Arkham, the villain will escape again, and will kill more people. The only way to truly prevent that from happening would be to kill them; Bruce refuses to do so, and I respect his right to choose such a thing for himself, but it is still a choice, and if we agree that Bruce's inaction during the confrontation would leave him at least partly responsible for the Joker's death, then we must also agree that his inaction in permanently preventing the Rogues from killing more people means he is also, partly, responsible for all of those deaths.
#my dc posting#batman#dc#bruce wayne#jason todd#joker#uhh is this like analysis or meta#anyway. to me this is the message that scene sends#if we say bruce doing nothing would mean he assisted in the murder of joker then bruce doing nothing about the villains means he is also#responsible for those deaths#ANYWAY yes b4 you come at me;;#bruce's belief in rehabilitation and that everyone can get better is central to his character#and i love it and no i dont actually think he should kill the rogues or whatever#but the question there is. Are you fine with the future victims your decisions will cause?#Are their lives worth the slim chance any of these people will get better?#batman says yes theyre worth it. red hood says no theyre not.#thats the fundamental moral difference there#its why jason challenges the batman status quo#which is why he cant be harnessed well after his initial return bc comics can never truly escape that status quo#anyway i sure am having some thoughts for someone not that smart so if you disagree please tell me!!! just be civil or ill just block you <#...anyway this is another thing BTAS succeeds in bc i always feel like yes these villains do deserve yet another chance#despite what theyve done. bruce's belief in them doesnt feel stupid and naive#its abt what you yourself can live with. bruce can live w the deaths of the ppl the criminals he doesnt get rid of kill#and jason can live with killing those criminals and preventing further victims
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I hope u guys don't mind me posting these au doodles while I work on things ahaha
I also gave JD slightly longer hair in these doodles as a funny haha but I don't think it's funny anymore he looks genuinely good with his hair like that ahahaha I hope you're not mad at me for changing his au design a bit
#first of all ahem DONT TAG THIS AS SHIP OR WHATEVER!!! ILL THROW ROCKS AT YOU!!!!! BITCH!!!!!!!#troIlcest (or whatever you call yourselves idk) DONT TOUCH my SHIT! Ty :] anyways...#For context I like to hc that when he was younger Bruce would always have JD brush his hair#and like... whenever lil Bruce was upset it would help calm him down i think ahhauysgjiodk do u guys see the vision??#and since it's my au i can make reality whatever i want it to be sooooo :]#I like to imagine that it still helps Bruce calm down even tho they're older now.. Big bro brushing his lil bros hair to soothe him UUGH#Let JD be a good older brother pleeease#also gave JD flowers in his hair too bc he deserves them me thinks... Now him and Bruce are matching!!!#i dont have any specific flowers in mind for the ones in their hair i just picked a color for the flowers that looked pretty and ran with i#also saying it again i love love LOOOOVE the crayon tool in mspaint using it to make gradients is so!!!! UUUGHUHHH!!!! /pos#the pattern on JD's jacket fur will never be consistent shhhhh#trolls#trolls band together#john dory trolls#trolls john dory#bruce trolls#trolls bruce#beach bros au#cherris canvas#I made that last image btw#everytime i saw that screenshot of jd it made me think of the spongebob scene where its a pov of flats waking up#and the first thing he sees is spongebob waiting for him with flowers in his hand and smiling
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So where does this idea that Dick has ever hated Bruce at some point come from ?
Because...We really kinda lost the plot if we think Dick Grayson has ever hated Bruce Wayne.
That's why theirs fights are so sad, they love each other.
That's why the Titans hate Bruce. Because Dick loves him and always come back even when Bruce treats him terribly and cannot for the life of him, open his mouth to communicate and talks to his child.
That's why Bruce fired him (in some stories) from being Robin. Because he got scared of losing him and decided to bench him. Was it a good decision ? No, but he was doing it because he was terrified of losing Dick.
Dick being mad at Bruce for doing some hurtful or dumbass shit does not equal hating him.
#dc comics#dc#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batman#Nightwing#the Titans are like: he loves you and you don't deserve it#that's theirs whole problem with Bruce
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Batfamily: Damian, I hope you make friends at school
Damian, tightening his grip on his katana: Mission accepted, I will complete the task as quickly as possible.
#i'll be honest#this is sweet#Kid Damian Wayne#Damian Wayne my beloved#duke thomas deserves better#i love Damian Wayne#damian wayne#damian al ghul#damian#damian wayne act like a kid#ao3 fanfic#ao3#batfamily#bruce wayne#batman#dc robin#damian robin#selina#steph#babs#jason#bruce#duke thomas#damian wayne my baby#baby damian wayne#dick grayson#batfam#red hood#alfred pennyworth#jason todd
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the funniest (tragic) thing is multiple times and in different canons bruce HAS tried healthier coping methods and life choices than being 'just' batman. he journals and its stolen and hes blackmailed with it and alfred is put at risk because of it. he skips patrol for a date and people are killed. hes goes to therapists and they either try to kill him or end up getting killed, leading bruce to blame himself and not attempt it again. he rests while being sick and wakes up exhausted and in pain and feeling guilty because he thinks of how many aren't waking up because of his need to sleep.
but when hes paranoid, hes more likely to benefit for it. from contingency plans to obsessive training to get through a fight or a dangerous situation. from excessive research to solve crimes and help people to pushing his body constantly because his weakness can be what gets someone killed. hes keeping people at arms length the best he can lest they hurt him and what hes fighting for or end up being killed because tragedy follows him like a hungry dog waiting for its next meal.
sure, his obsessiveness blows up in his face sometimes. hes scolded for it, people feel betrayed from it, hes isolate because of it. but if people get away, dont they usually end up better? he'll rather care from afar and know theyre safe but hate him then chance them being killed or used as a weapon because he wasn't prepared.
hes caught always feeling selfish for his love, something thats always fueled him and his choices, because he knows what it brings. hes caught feeling guilty in his attempts of normality and wanting a real life because then who will take care of gotham and who is he to say his happiness is worth more than the strangers on the street lives? hes always punished if he attempts happiness and hes punished when he attempts to always be prepared—the only difference is the later usually doesn't have as many people being killed. so without fail, every single time, bruce is going to sacrifice his own life and his own happiness so others can have it instead. and usually, its the 'right' choice, all other options leading to something terrible.
#i love run on sentence <3#doomed to always bear the burden of sisyphus because hes in a comic book.... bleeding heart bruce wayne you drive me insane !#like canon usually rewards him for it or says he has a reaosn to be paranoid. even if misdirected he ALWAYS has a reason to be suspicious#and that everytime he even attempts basic self care (eating a fucking meal!) he deems it as selfish and above what he deserves#is satisfying his hunger worth the minutes hes distracted? the lives that are actively at risk? is getting rest worth more than them?#and hes going to find the answer isalways no. it isnt worth more. and the canon is always going to agree with it.#ransom note#batman#bruce wayne
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on dick grayson & roy harper & marriage
I mostly stand by what I said here on the dickroy marriage poll (in short: lmao, they’d barely even admit they’re in a relationship) BUT after more thought I believe there actually is a world where they’d get married ‘for love’?
now, imo roy would never be the one to propose. marriage just isn’t that meaningful to him; it’s not something he really cares about. (and even if it was, proposing would feel like an ultimatum he doesn’t want to set. when everyone always leaves you, you learn to be careful not to ask for too much.)
and while I DO believe marriage means something symbolically important to dick, it’s a pretty fraught topic for him, given past experiences! so I think dick would resist putting labels on his relationship with roy, because acknowledging that there’s a romantic element to the way they love each other opens their relationship up to failing the way dick's past romantic relationships have failed.
but if they’d been in a stable relationship for a while, and dick had worked through some of his issues? well. so much of their relationship has been defined by leaving and being left, by other things getting in the way. so if they finally worked it out, I could see dick proposing as a promise to roy that he’s committed to roy and the life they’re building together. that he’s sticking around. that their relationship (that roy) is worth prioritizing!
and marriage might not mean much to roy, but he knows that dick takes it seriously. he knows that if dick is offering ���till death do us part’ now—after working through his shit enough to be honest with himself—then dick means it. and that would be VERY significant to roy. it wouldn’t change anything about their relationship on the surface! but it would soothe the part of him that’s always bracing for abandonment, and let him believe that this is something he might get to keep.
they still wouldn’t have a wedding tho. they’d get courthouse married on a random afternoon with just them and a witness, and then probably not actually bother to tell anyone* unless asked directly, besides casually referencing it when quipping at each other.
*except donna. she knows because dick talked it through with her before proposing.
#and yeah i’ll admit the odds of dick actually working through his issues enough to get to this point is perhaps slim.#but I am choosing to believe its possible because I love roy harper and I want him to get a happy ending#he deserves the world!!!!!! unfortunately he doesn’t want the world he wants dick grayson to be happy and psychologically healthy#which is a much more difficult ask 😔#also after writing this I’m less inclined to think they’d get married for practical/utility reasons if it wasn’t strictly necessary#i think dick at least would be reluctant to make those vows if he didn’t know they both meant it#this post isn't about bruce but he's certainly haunting it. like he haunts everything in dick grayson's life!!#dc#mine: dc#dick grayson#roy harper#dickroy#roydick#i spent so fucking long editing this to try to cut it down and yet here we are. not every post is meant 2 be punchy and concise#it's much less rambly than it was originally tho!
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Me: I wish more people would write BruHarvey fics where Bruce genuinely loves and accepts Harv too and wants him as much as he wants Harvey rather than focusing on reforming or “fixing” him.
Me:
ETA: It exists now!
#like okay yes I’ll write it myself 🥰#bruharvey#twobats#ugh as a system it makes me so happy to write DID love stories that are affirming and sweet and special like this ugh ugh ugh#dissociative identity disorder#BRUCE LOVES HARV OKAY#I’m in the midst of writing fluffy fluff with them too because it’s what they deserve
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Barbara: for this disability pride month, I need you guys to not be stupid and STOP FUCKIN UP THE COMPUTER BRUCE! Also I want a spa day and extra pay.
Bruce: of course... Ally.
Dick: boy, we're all in disability pride, you autistic freak... I want a six week vacay though, I need it holding this family on my shoulders and all.
Bruce: ... Still,,, Ally.
Jason: I swear if you have Alfred to make a cake out of the disability pride month flag I will kill you.
Bruce:
Bruce, whisper yelling for Alfred: throw the cake away!!
Happy disability pride month y'all!!!
#dick grayson#bruce wayne#jason todd#barbara gordon#batfam#Bruce being an ally but babygirl so autistic creature coded#Barbara deserve a day without her idiots and cass ya know? like she loves them but bro
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jason todd at all times: y'know, i think i'm doing pretty good for myself as someone who's had four parents that i was never enough for.
#dc comics#dc universe#dcu#batman#red hood#jason todd#jason peter todd#jason was never the angry robin#someone needs to give this kid a genuinely good parent who won't disappoint him#yeah willis (not the current version of him) and catherine todd at least tried their best to be good parents to jason but it wasn't enough#jason todd deserves better#someone needs to give this boy unconditional love#i'm talking about jason like he's a baby but really he's only like a year older than me#bruce is a mediocre parent at best and has not been a good parent to jason in a long time#sheila haywood hate club#jason todd needs a hug#the less said about his egg donor the better
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Todd brain rot (and Sheila too I guess)
#baby jason protection squad#jason todd#catherine todd#willis todd#boo Sheila#sheila haywood#I think Willis should also get a more in depth and nuanced backstory but my girl Catherine gets hers first!!!#batman#bruce wayne#red hood#dc comics#shameless Catherine Todd stan#Willis I think did love Jason but didn’t show it well or in a good way#poverty really pushed the todds into a corner with few resources to help them#basically there’s so much there for a really layered and good story with interesting aspects to explore and they deserve that#doesn’t excuse any of the crap he did like AT ALL but I do think there’s a good story there#my art
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Here's my controversial opinion; if you're trying to write Bruce as a non-abusive, good parent, you should also write him respecting his kids' privacy, boundaries, and not stalking&surveying them.
#my dc posting#dc#batfamily#batman#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#looking thru ur kids phone tracking them giving them no privacy etc etc is deeply damaging#but yall aint ready for the ''stalking is their love language' is super toxic' conversation </3#also can we retire the JL being completely chill about it. 'batman just knows things' not being bothered their secret identities were found#out etc can we. stop coddling the batfam#i just need someone anytime to please just call them out like 'hey dont fucking surveil me' like that is actually extremely unethical#and its frankly not hard to write a batman who doesnt invade his kids privacy n boundaries etc#controversially when reading fic where theyre supposed to be healthy n getting along i want to actually feel like its deserved n good for t#hem#instead of sitting there going 'woo thats toxic' 'oh that even worse' 'why are we passing over all that'. like i dont wanna be thinkin they#should go no-contact when its supposed to be fuffy n good :(#like if you can write away the hitting n other abuse why is this the one thing that just must always stay#like genuinely it aint hard to write a parent not stalking their children. actually maybe i should remind you all that stalking is not good#or funny#like i feel like w all the joking some of us are actually forgetting its not good. ever. like absolutely never dont stalk ppl#eh idk. this is why i cant stay in any one fandom too long bc i start developing Opinions which inevitably make me hostile to like#90% of the fandom's content 😔
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I love the trope of “kid without a mother/father figure discovers magical world and gains 4 of them”
#not just fantasy btw but I see it a lot I’m fantasy/sci fi and I love the mentor to parent trope#tales of arcadia#troll hunters#jim lake jr#jim lake junior#blinky and arrrgh r his dads btw#luz noceda#hunter toh#harry potter#the owl house#izutsumi#to me senshi and chilchuck are her dads and Laois would be if she let him#Jason Todd#Cassandra Cain#them forming parental relationships with Bruce’s revolving door of love interests#Big fan of Dick seeing Clark as his uncle dad but also love Jason seeing selina as his aunt mom#luffy one piece#i feel like he does#I don’t know if he sees them all as father figures I’m not far enough in but yeah#At least uncle figures#keith kogane#he got his dad who’s lowkey also his brother and his step dad who’s like 4 years older than him lmaoo#Every second gen x men#yuji itadori#ashoka tano#crazy jane#Cliff is her FATHER AND BEST FRIEND FUCK OFF COMICSSSS#This is all I want for Denji from csm tbh he deserves it stop giving him horrible love (?) interests#add more yall I LOVE this trope#naruto
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