#but this also definitely works for trans tim
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pokeberry5 · 1 year ago
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girl experiences gender euphoria and is immediately slammed by grief
for @litttlittt <3. this was supposed to be a portrait of caroline hill, but litta mentioned tim looking like janet when dressed as caroline and identity issues and angst and things spiraled
something about tim not knowing if he's his mother's child or bruce's or neither's.
figuring out the looks:
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i wanted janet to have that poofy 70s hair
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icelogged · 1 year ago
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hello one more bitch for the road 😔✌🏾terf is not a synonym for transphobe. terf is an acronym. tme trans people can be terfs. next scheduled bitchfest is between me our heavenly father amen or to annoy you specifically ❤️
#girl what happened to just saying a person is transphobic… i promise your transphobic uncle tim is not a trans exclusionary radical feminist#evidence of life#i had coffe for the first time in god the almighty christ knows uwu teehee#coffee*#so i might be worse than usual 😔😔#like wow it is definitely affecting my body slay i guess the gap changed my tolerance?#anyways point is i have never been tipsy in my entire life i thought i’d be a light weight given my body type but like nope#that’s pretty weird to me because i’m fake straight edge [special occasions if they have what i like] and that’s been rare in the last bit#i haven’t had alcohol at all this year and i think the last time was once last summer at a backyard family friend party thingy#i’m not trying find out what tispy and drunk feels like though#so like huge gaps and it doesn’t do anything but this coffee which is more regular than alcohol (but that’s not saying much)#and baby i am feeling it like that is caffeine huh wow#ophelia over sharing on the internet cw oph won’t stfu cw hi :3 ->#i’m having it because i couldn’t take my anti psychotics that also help me sleep because i had a late night and an early morning#and i couldn’t risk sleeping in#not that i actually wake up at like 6 or 7 or even 5#fastest wake up time was in bed after 10pm woke up at exactly 12:36 am#the good thing is i feel significantly more rested and have more spoons than i before it and before it made the cycle consistent#well the whole cocktail works well together but shout out to her she’s my babygirl for real <3#also this just reminded me i didn’t take my morning meds its still morning it’s fine :3 i just should really get a regular take time for#morning like i do with the night ones it is all a critical science but night ones must be as consistent as possible or i face certain death#<- lie hyperbole#did i reread this [the tags] absolutely not <3#bitchfest presented by oleta ophelia
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dairy-farmer · 2 months ago
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Trigger Warning: Rape, underage, forced pregnancy, and forced 'incest'.
So, backstory/inspiration, there's this explicit sex (eroge) computer game that came out in 2006 and is highly, highly controversial. It's called Rapelay and the 'plot' is that you play as a chikan (train molester) who gets caught but manages to get off because he's related to an important figure and proceeds to take his revenge on the teenager who caught him as well as her young sister and mother. You can find more about it here if you're interested: (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay)
Anyway! On to the Batman stuff!!❤️❤️
A highly controversial eroge game is discovered/released on the deep Web called Rape Robin. The player character (PC) is a goon caught up in a bust by Batman and Co. and plots his (sexual) revenge; First Robin, then Nightwing, then Red Hood, and finishing off with Red Robin.
The PC is a meta with a paralyzing touch, which is how he captures the Robins, different scenarios for each hero, and since the game uses anime style character models they don't look like the real deal obviously but the Creator still took some liberties: Robin is modeled after when he first arrived and was still a cute 10-year-old shota and is made white with brown eyes, Nightwing is given green eyes and one of those anime womb tattoos as a tramp stamp, Red Hood is a redhead and has lots of aesthetically pleasing scars (the Lazarus pit means Jason actually has the fewest scars in the family), and Red Robin is trans. The game also assumes/states that they are all blood-related. The game uses stock sound effects, interspersed with actual lines from the Bats which were obviously lifted from onlookers videos from battles (Luckily, a lot of fighting sounds also sound sexual) so there are lots of gasps and screams and pained sounds and such.
Robin's section involves luring him away from Nightwing before paralyzing him and taking him somewhere else. It emphasize a 'break the haughty' feel, forcing the proud and arrogant Robin to choke on your cock before fucking him.
Nightwing is lured in by playing a recording of Robin crying. He's tired up shibari style to accentuate his flexibility, and fucked in front of/on top of Robin.
Red Hood is caught the same way (with a comment from the PC about how any child crying would have probably worked). PC gets to tit fuck Hood's pecs and cum on his face before forcing him over a table or something and hitting it from the back.
Red Robin is caught trying to rescue the others. The creator decided on the domino RR costume instead of the cowl. PC Discovers that RR is a 'girl' (there are some complaints that that is transphobic, making him 'really a girl' instead of just a trans man. Others helpful point out that the game involves raping a child and that there may be bigger issues than the creators transphobia). RR is a virgin and the PC makes a big deal over stealing RR's first time.
Damian, Dick, and Jason all have copies hidden really really well on their closed system computers -even though they were all incredibly furious and raging about the game at first- because after beating (it to) the 'main story', bonus modes unlock including pregnancy mode for Red Robin (it has some bonus dialogue and switches his character model to a pregnant one), taking the bats to various Gotham landmarks to fuck, little costumes and accessories like cat ears or different era Robin costumes and different cosplay outfits, and 'Humiliation Mode' which most people refer to as 'Forced Incest Mode', which let's players 'force' the Robins to fuck. (Robin can only be used to penetrate RR because the creator thought 'it would look silly for Robin to top Nightwing or Hood').
Dick, Jason, and Damian all getting off to the idea of fucking and even impregnating Tim. Tim may or may not be aware of the games existence, and he definitely doesn't know that his brothers all have a copy 😔. And who knows, maybe playing a game won't be enough forever and one of them may try to make it a reality (at least the Tim fucking bit❤️).
~🦇❤️
dicktim, jaytim, damitim
!!!!!!!! the way dick, jason, and damian would play at denouncing and rolling their eyes at the game but absolutely all play it for tim's route, when an extended copy gets made they're the first to preorder. they absolutely use the game to fulfill the desperate shameful fantasies they have about tim ❤️
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ladytauria · 3 months ago
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actually, I'll give you something cute
Jason and Tim gotta pretend to be a married couple in a suburb or smth, specifically thinking they adopt like a dog/or cat while there (and then keep them obv)
but yeah playing happy married couple while totally not pining after each other
this is so messy i’m sorry lmao
mutual pining is one of my absolute favorite tropes <3 & you know i love a good undercover + identity shenanigans fic
I don’t have a lot of clear, defined ideas for the set up (I find casefics so hard to conceptualize for some reason???? Sigh.) But. I have a few thoughts— first, I don’t want them going undercover together to have been the original plan. Second, I kind of want to have originally been Jason’s case? Bc I kind of want there to be an opening thread of like. Jason’s such a planner that having his plans over turned is always upsetting for him—he’s adaptable, it rarely ever affects his actual work, but he still gets grumpy about it :/ So him reaching out for Tim’s help isn’t like. A Big Deal but it isn’t Not a Deal at all, you know? Like it means something that he’s asking Tim to come in for… SO many reasons.
Alternatively I suppose it could be something they were assigned to do by Bruce or Babs or asked to do by Steph, even, ‘cause it’s someone else’s case & they need intel but also more freedom to do stuff?? I dunnoooo. ALSO thinking that maybe Tim & Jason are the obv choice for such an assignment bc Jason is still legally dead & doesn’t have much of a civilian life that anyone knows about, and Tim is no longer involved with WE or doesn’t have to do much with the company so his free time is also… very open.
I’m also torn on like. WHERE I would want them to be. In a Gotham suburb? Or outside of Gotham completely? Like, say, Metropolis? There’s something appealing about the latter bc like. They’re already undercover, posing as different people, but NOW they’re also someWHERE else so it feels even more like this is a distant dream they can never have. However, if it’s in Gotham you could have that underlying “we could have been this if life had been different.” (You can kind of get that with the former too, but.)
Also thinking that as much as I love the gendefuckery of crossdressing / going undercover as a woman, AND as much as I love the idea of genderqueer/fluid/trans Tim, I want them to be going undercover as an MM couple? (Although, now I’m thinking about a similar situation where Tim, who doesn’t oft explore the femme side of himself in depth, actually would get to… hm.) ANYWAY. But yeah for this one, they’re going undercover as husband & husband.
Tim’s undercover persona… I’m split between something with tech or working as a mechanic. (Hush.) Jason… hmm. College TA or going for a college degree, so he’s mostly the stay at home/house husband type. Or maybe one or both of them should have a career that calls for traveling a lot?? Hm.
Both of them expect themselves and/or the other to kind of struggle with it. For multiple reasons! The first being that they have feelings for the other—there’s a part of me that actually wants to make one of them (probably Tim) oblivious to their own feelings until a week or so into the charade & have a sudden realization? But also I like the idea of both of them going into it knowing that they like each other and resolving not to let it affect things. They both also expect to miss vigilante work, because while they’re able to go out occasionally it’s not like either of them are used to.
And while it’s definitely difficult to find things to occupy their time with at first… it’s not as hard as they expect.
Thinking they adopt an animal fairly early on (thinking it should be a stray they start feeding & fall in love w). I’m leaning hard on the idea of a cat but a dog could be fun too lmao. There’s a lot of joking arguments about post-case custody but then those peter off as they start letting their roles bleed over into their lives.
And then. The case ends. They get the intel they needed, bust the operation, and it’s time for Tim & Jason to quietly pack up and leave.
Thinking the last couple of days they spend as their fake identities are awkward. They can’t find the ease they had before because they know they’re about to leave, so when they’re not actively performing for their neighbors… they’re more withdrawn.
And then they both go to their separate homes. Thinking Jason got primary custody of their dog or cat? But I could be convinced for Tim as well. Anyway. Both of them feel a little hollow; like they’re missing something. They cant stop thinking about their life together, how *real* it felt & how much they miss waking up to the other. How much they miss even the idiosyncrasies they used to argue over. (Even if at least half of those idiosyncrasies were made up for the persona. They still know each other well enough to know which ones were real and which were fake… & they find themselves wondering which parts of their private lives they left out, good and bad, what living together would *really* be like.)
Eventually one of them makes an excuse to go see the other—to check in on the cat/dog, obviously. And maybe there’s an awkward invitation to keep visiting, and a sort of. Ambiguous/open ending with an obvious/hopeful slant for them to be a couple in the future.
And then maybe an epilogue / one shot sequel set a few months in the future with a look at their established life <3333
[ send me an AU & i’ll give you at least 5 things i would include in it ]
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suzukiblu · 1 year ago
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Ko-fi thank-you sentences for @aralintheobsessive; kidnapping your soulmate for fun and profit.
"Oh, I see," Tim observes non-committally, trying to figure out if he can move up that six-month timeline somehow. There's got to be some corner he can cut or something he can cheat, if he just–
"Do you wanna hang out for a little while before you leave the island?" Superboy asks hopefully. Tim stares blankly at him for a moment. What kind of question is that? Most people would be upset to find out they'd only have a little while to hang out with a newly-discovered soulmate, but Superboy's asking like he expects him to want to just . . . what, swap cell phone numbers and then go on about their normal plans?
First of all: no. Second of all, Superboy doesn't know it, but this is the damn plan, so still no.
"That sounds cool, yeah," Tim says, applying Smiling Normal Civilian Face #5, which is a little softer. Superboy brightens, inexplicably turning red again. Tim has the even more inexplicable urge to pat his face about it.
This is definitely not a platonic soulmark, no.
Okay, so Tim's . . . gay, he guesses? Bi? Pan? Just–some sexual orientation that includes telekinetic alien hybrids that are at least male-presenting, anyway. That or Superboy is a trans girl and just not out yet, which he supposes is an equally logical option.
. . . probably Tim being at least a little bit gay is likelier, though, because Superboy really is a look in that torn-up skin-tight costume he's barely wearing right now. Though Tim could also be bi and Superboy could be trans; it's not like either of those possibilities precludes the other. Actually, that combination of queer identities would probably work out pretty well, right?
At least, he assumes it would. Tim has admittedly not looked into that kind of thing too much, what with assuming it wasn't ever going to be directly relevant to his life. He infiltrated a GSA-style support group for a month and a half once for Robin-business and that's all he's really got to go on. His cover had been "kid with a newly-out older brother who was seeking basic information", just to minimize any concern about him dropping off the face of the earth after the necessary recon in the center was done, so he hadn't had to know anything even then, really.
Apparently he should've been paying less attention to the layout and staff and more to the actual conversation.
Go figure.
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cryptidcircuswrites · 8 months ago
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Character x menstruating reader headcanons
! - slight NSFW, characters mostly suck at this, period =/= fem!reader
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TIM WRIGHT
Has some experience from the events of Marble Hornets (Jay is trans to me) so not entirely clueless
VERY BAD AT COMMUNICATING THOUGH.
He finds out the first time and just leaves. Does not tell you where he's going, does not tell you when he'll be back, does not answer calls or texts.
Comes back several hours later to you in obvious distress with chocolate, midol, that drink you like, one of those plushes that you can heat up like a rice bag
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE UPSET WITH HIM THO
He's very apologetic
After that first time when he goes out he tells you and makes sure his phone is charged
You usually watch a movie or whatever, but it's something quiet because you probably don't feel well
JAY MERRICK
He is probably also either on his period, about to start, or just getting off of it
notoriously bad about bugging you the entire week.
You get into a lot of little arguments because he doesn't understand boundaries and is also having mood swings
you make up pretty quickly though
He cooks for you the entire time and makes things that won't make you more bloated
BRIAN THOMAS
Absolutely the most perfect.
Massages, trips to the store, cuddling, anything you need he will make sure you get
Even if he's "working"
He will take time in the middle of an assignment to text you and check in
Hell, even if you get weirdly horny he's down to just eat you out "to help with the cramps" for a while
(he's into it)
ALEX KRALIE
He sucks.
And it's not even his fault, he just doesn't know what to do
And he's terrified you'll snap at him or something or he'll do something wrong
So he just ignores you
Self-fulfilling prophecies amiright
If he HAPPENS to have a small enough ego to ask someone (probably Brian) for help and if Brian feels nice enough to not beat his ass on sight, he'll try his best
He's not grossed out by it tho
He might bring home painkillers or a heating pad
Don't expect anything too special this man doesn't understand how this works at all
JESSICA LOCKE
Brian but a woman
Will be so sweet to you the entire time
But not in a "oh come here sweet baby" like Brian, because she gets it
She'll cook for you, rub your back or feet or thighs or whatever hurts
She will sit down and watch that cheesy movie with you, or bitch about whatever's on your nerves atm
TBH would kick Alex's ass into shape if she saw the way he handles things
"Because they deserve better than that!"
Constantly describes it all as "the bare minimum" and downplays it though
EYELESS JACK
Will probably need direction on how to help
Knows a bit, does a lot of research, etc
Ask him to go get x, y, or z though and he absolutely will
Tampons? Pads? Totally knows what he's doing, you just have to specify size and brand
Finds out that orgasms can help with cramps and will definitely test the vibes to see if you're DTF
Definitely into the idea of period sex, if only because he's literally fucking away your pain
If you're not up for it though he'll let you use his favorite heating pad and also lay across you while you nap or whatever
Also overly protective of you the whole time, because you're uncomfortable if not in outright pain
Will bite people for you if they piss you off at all
JEFF THE KILLER
Also really likes the idea of period sex, but for other reasons
Blood kink to the extreme
Will not buy you pads, unironically asks what size pussy you have if you manage to make him get them
Might bring you chocolate or painkillers I guess, but only if he genuinely likes you (not fucking likely)
Overall a total man child about it
But when is he not
SORROW
Doesn't remember much about periods due to the dissociative amnesia and not having one regularly
Tries their best though!
Ends up never remembering when exactly you're on it so is constantly bringing home chocolate, midol, pads, tampons, whatever just to be sure
They're not good about affection so they leave it on your bed or something
TICCI TOBY
Doesn't really understand a lot about it
Like he knows what it is, and there's blood involved, and that it hurts, but beyond that? Jack shit.
He asks people around him about it discreetly though and ends up getting all kinds of weird remedies for it
Will also ask what size your pussy is unironically
When he finds out the differences in pad size etc, still asks what size your pussy is as a joke
Grossed out by the idea of period sex despite being fine with woundfucking
KATE THE CHASER
Has a pretty good grasp on how to handle a period, but it takes her a few times to understand how to handle YOU on your period
Mood swings or whatever and how to keep you emotionally stable
Once she figures that out she’s pretty good about it
Also LOVES period sex
Either of you are bleeding? She wants to FUCK
Will back off if you say no, but definitely still wants you really bad
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pillarsalt · 4 months ago
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hi there!!! love your art first of all!! :)
i came across a rb of your cotton cieling/peaking comic (which i also love!) and saw in the notes how tims have scrubbed the tag since then. it made me curious how widespread the knowledge of their rape rhetoric actually is (since we know how happy they are to spew it when they know only lesbians are reading/listening, but we also know how hard they try to pretend to everyone else that they're tooootally not homophobic and toooootally don't have an incel meltdown at the mere thought of a lesbian saying "no" to them)
so i decided to see if wikipedia had an article on the ""cotton cieling"" (god i could go off on one about how these misogynists think "women are not given equal positions/mobility in the workforce" and "men get told 'no' by women they want to have sex with realllllly badly :-(" are at ALL comparable but this ask is long enough already) and guess what!? they DO but it has been NUKED to all hell.
right now? it's got zero citations/links, zero name drops of any Brave And Stunning men who promote it and write theory about it let alone naming the POS who coined it, barely even says what the definition even is... it's THE shortest article i've ever seen on there.
but look at the history tab!!! it used to be a fleshed out piece that was out and proud about claiming "lesbians not wanting to sleep with men is both oppressive and misogynistic" until at some point they realized saying the quiet part out loud where "normies" might see it was not a good idea and quietly scrubbed the article. (but they still keep it up!! as opposed to that female mod who made literal thousands of helpful factual edits, maintaining their site for free: she got banned the moment they found out she wasn't a handmaiden and all her work is theirs now i guess). and all the while, in the background, they've kept on coercing and pressuring lesbians to sleep with them nonstop with zero guilt or shame.
please for the love of god explain to me how they've convinced anyone who pays attention they're ""the most oppressed minority group who ever lived""???
holy shit anon you're right, that edits tab is crazyyy. They have definitely done a 180° on this subject, at least out loud where the average person can read it. The discussion page is another good read, LauraRichards1981 if you ever read this, you are a star and I love you.
Talking to other feminists and others who used to support genderism but "peaked", I would say at least half of them brought up the phenomenon of trans-identified men insisting lesbians have sex with them or be labeled bigots as at least one factor in their new outlook. It's so blatantly homophobic and I think a lot of influential figures in trans activism have realized how bad it looks for them, and have actively tried to memory hole it. I have even seen some claiming that "terfs" invented the term, which is hilarious because, as portrayed in my comic, I saw it with my own eyes being touted absolutely everywhere online as a way to vilify lesbians who wouldn't go along with every desire of the male trans individuals who had parasitized their communities. The DARVO is real.
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koolaidoverliving · 5 months ago
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Do you have any Frankie the Undead headcanons please my crops are dying
Yes I Do Let Me Water Your Crops
like with william, frankie isn't apart of my AU! rather he's in the slendermansion one :')
i know the original frankie is 50 but i didn't know when i rewrote his character so — my frankie the undead is a 25 year old hitman! his corpse, like nurse ann's, was reanimated by zalgo, which turned him into the zombie he is now. his life before death wasn't the best. he had a daughter at a particularly young age and was unable to provide a lot for her.
both him and his daughter were attacked near the forest. frankie wasn't aware at the time, but as he carried his daughter's body, dazed with his body moving on its own, he was already dead. an entity in the fog recognised his fury and gave him an opportunity at a new life. the deal was made. frankie collapsed on the ground. when he woke up, he was still alive, but he had a hunger for vengeance... and flesh.
he became a bounty hunter who goes after bad people for money. frankie's made quite a lot of money, but he isn't allowed to reveal his occupation, so he has a part-time job at times horton's with william grossman (who is also his annoying roommate.)
frankie does have recollection of his past :) it's just that he's very dazed and his memories are slowly deteriorating, and sometimes he doesn't know why he craves blood so much — a symptom of being reanimated by zalgo...
anyway here's some mini headcanons
pansexual and trans male (he/him)
he actually didn't transition until he was reanimated (at the age of 23)
he has undiagnosed autism
frankie has a strong brooklyn accent which william tries to make fun of but he can't because he's british and that's objectively worse
his parents were junkies. frankie used to play outside more than he spent time in the house.
he has to restitch himself every now and then...
he's a redditor
definitely spat slurs when he was younger but not anymore (BRO'S PARENTS WERE ATROCIOUS INFLUENCES)
he listens to jazz music
he fucking hates working at tim horton's and his co-workers think he's cosplaying a zombie everytime he shows up to work
frankie doesn't like eating people actually... he just sorta has to. it's the only thing that feeds him.
he also tends to not look at his own reflection. he doesn't like seeing who he's turned into — nor does he think he's appealing, either.
though frankie quit drinking, smoking is still something he's addicted to. every cigarette he smokes is a reminder of how low he's fallen.
frankie pays 75% of the rent
while frankie doesn't show it, he does have a soft spot for william. frankie is just trying not to get attached to anyone again.
laughing jack on the otherhand is a menace and frankie despises him.
frankie's hair was much darker when he was alive, but now it's a pale blond.
:3
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angel-atelier · 5 months ago
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Some random headcanons for my au!:
Zero is old asf, she's not exactly a demon, but she is similar to slender and zalgo. She's a bit similar to Yoru csm in way, where she's less powerful possessing Alice.
Jeff helped build Clockys trust in men again, which is ironic with Jeff being ya know... himself
Kate, Tim, and Brian are practically family. They live together and try their best to protect one another. Sometimes Brian remarks that Kate and Tim even look related.
Liu and Jane have a strained relationship. They used to be closer, they vented to eachother about Jeff and were really eachothers safe place for awhile. They naturally drifted over the years. Recently Jeff and Liu have started talking again. Liu knows why Jane will never forgive Jeff, but he can't help what he feels about his own brother. Liu feels like he's lying to Jane everytime they call, so he has tried to distance from her even further, causing frustration for Jane.
Sally and Ben have a sibling relationship where Ben continuously annoys her over and over. She really doesn't like him too much, while she's still a kid she's been alive a lot longer, so she likes to act mature
Jane doesn't wear a mask, she's just goth and paints her face white
Clocky hates the heat, cannot stand it she burns sooo easy
Jack absolutely hates zero, he's usually not one to hate, he tries to keep love at the center of all his actions. But zero just makes him think about what happened to him. She's using a body that doesn't belong to her, and on top of that she's a real asshole. Plus he's really good friends with Ann
Jeff and Clockwork are exes LOL they both were like "this is too weird" and went back to being best friends. This causes some jealously for both Nina and Toby
Kate was raised to be pretty religious, so she has guilt about her actions and being attracted to women
Sadie is trans!
Dina and Helen have a flirtatious relationship but it's pretty unhealthy. Dina is hunting Helen as a part of her job, but he manipulates her into not killing him using flattery and ultimately tears down her confidence. It's not exactly abusive, but it's definitely not healthy
Korbyn likes most of the creeps, but she really does not want anything to do with them. Liu and her bond over this
Lulu is selectively mute, and was so in life
Clocky likes 90s rock, grunge, and some punk but she also really likes folk and old country, to an embarrassing extent.
Brian and Tim treat eachother like romantic partners, but if they had a normal life they definitely wouldn't be. They're just they only thing the other can count on.
Ann and Jack are companions (platonic), they live together, they sleep in the same bed, and they "work" together. They are really similar in quite a few ways. Jack has a lot of empathy for her, even when she's being a bitch
Jane was in college when her family was murdered, but she did live at home. So her and Jeff have a pretty significant age gap. Jane is about 10 years older, give or take
Nina and Clockwork are roomates! They met through Jeff but have become really close on their own
Lulu, The Rake, Seedester, Sadie, Sally, Slenderman and Smile Dog all occupy the forest. Of course the more human ones go inside from time to time. Zalgo is also there but in a different way
Korbyn is non binary, using almost any pronoun minus it
On the other hand Zero doesn't mind the use of it. She doesn't really care about pronouns but if they were to, she would go by she/it/they
Toby and Clocky are basically a couple in every sense but officially. They have a very domestic life together, go on dates and sometimes kiss each other on the head and cheek. Toby's the kind of guy who practically lives at his partners house. But they aren't official, much to Toby's dismay
While Zero does hate humanity. She can't kill absolutely everyone she sees, it would land her behind bars too quickly so she hangs out with the creeps. She has taken a liking to Korbyn because she knows it makes them uncomfortable to be around her.
Stripes is a masc lesbian
Dina has lots of internalized misogyny from her childhood, but she has worked through a lot of it.
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mister-mickey · 1 year ago
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Sexuality headcanons
(Does not have anything to do with the ship hcs, these are my personal hcs. It’s more related to the twitter au but even then it’s not 100% the same)
Experience doesn’t necessarily mean sex, just like dating and such
Darry
- Cis and gay lol
- He likes guys that fight (Paul, tim)
- That’s why he liked football so much lolol
- Despite this he doesn’t have a lot of experience with other guys because he only dated girls in highschool
Soda
- Bisexual ofc. Also cis but very connected to fem side
- His type is uhh. Mean ppl. He hates to admit it though and makes excuses for his partner/crush
- “No Sandy isn’t cheating on me she just has lots of guy friends!” “Steve isn’t mean he’s just bitey!”
- Has experience with lots of different ppl because he’s so in demand so he’s good at flirting (charming handsome boy)
Pony
- Hm. Also bisexual because if taht obvious crush on cherry but also everyone else in the book lmao. Non-binary in a “I don’t give a fuck about my gender” way. Still he/him
- Doesn’t have a set type, it’s literally just anyone. He meets someone? Oh wow, new crush.
- It seems like he’s attracted to assholes, but it’s actually just because everyone around him is an asshole
- No experience, he’s 14 and kind of losery (I love him still, not pb hate)
Twobit
- Bisexual but leans towards girl, cis
- Canon that he likes blondes, so I bet he’s made out with dally at a party at least once.
- Marcia is an obvious exception to this and he doesn’t understand it. He jokes about her dying her hair blonde but he really does like her as is
- Lots of experience I’m sure. He’s funny and charming, I’d be surprised if he didn’t
Dally
- Bisexual but leans toward guys, cis
- Likes people that kick his ass (tim, Sylvia) honestly his type is just people that see him for who he is
- Tim and Sylvia are his toxic exes that he keeps going back to. He hates it but they really are some of the only people that he feels understand him
- He’s Dallas, im pretty sure Ponyboy mentioned him having tons of flings so he’s got experience.
Steve
- Gay, and I read a really good fic where he was ftm and it rearranged my brain so he’s trans now
- His type is pretty boys (soda) he’s mostly only ever had a crush on soda so it’s not like he’s explored his type lol
- He dated evie because she was friends with Sandy and he wanted to double date with soda and Sandy so he could watch them the entire time (jealous mf)
- Zero experience, he refused to even kiss evie and he never had the guts to even look at other guys
Johnny
- Hm. Gay and cis, but he seriously questioned his gender for a bit because he didn’t have much of a self concept and he couldn’t imagine himself at all. He decided to stop thinking about it because it stressed him out
- His type is people that he thinks are better than him (Dallas, for being tuffer, pony, for being smarter) he thinks that being around cool people will make him feel better about himself
- It doesn’t work, but he still likes to do it. Anyway, pony and dally still make him feel better in other ways because they think he’s so cool
- No experience, nobody ever flirts with him (or even notices him) except for Sylvia that one time. He thinks he’s ugly but honestly he just needs to put himself out there
Tim
- Gay and ftm (projecting lolll) very few people know because he was really young when he transed. Like when he was like 4 and his parents were like “hm okay whatever we don’t care anyway.” Also itty bitty titty committee so he doesn’t even have to bind (jealous)
- His type is literally just tough guys. That’s why he dated dallas and why he likes darry. They’re both tough and good at fighting.
- also dated Sylvia but only to make dally mad (and he regretted it because he realized immediately afterwards that he was definitely gay. Sylvia thought it was funny)
- Lots of experience but only with select people (people he can trust)
Angela
- Bisexual but doesn’t realize it lol, cis
- She likes traditionally masculine guys and traditionally feminine girls. Idk why but she likes it. Tbf it’s the sixties she wouldn’t be exposed to many fem guys and masc girls. Maybe she had a crush on Sylvia
- Dated bryon and actually really liked him for a bit. She broke up with him for pb but regretted it lmao.
- Bryon was her first bf so no real experience. Also tim chases any possible beaus away so she’s real unlucky
Curly
- Gay and cis, but too stupid to realize that he’s gay
- His type is any man ever. (Saw tuffponyboy’s post about how curly likes dally, bryon, and Sodapop and I committed it to my belief system)
- But he also likes pony. Maybe he even realizes and is like “omg I’m a homosexual 😧” and he doesn’t realize that everyone around him is also gay and wouldn’t judge him.
- Zero experience, gets no bitches, loser. Also he’s fifteen and he cares more about fighting than smooching
Mark
- Aromantic, asexual and ftm. Idk I feel like it fits him.
- Honestly he cares more about his friends and family than anything else. He literally sold drugs ti support his family (look where that got him)
- Has dated girls before but he hated it so much. Even tried kissing a guy at a party but decided that everyone else was crazy for enjoying this stuff
- A little bit of experience from before he decided that it all just wasn’t for him
Bryon
- Bisexual and cis
- His type is shorter than him (he likes to be tall and feel strong)
- He dated angela and Cathy, but he kissed curly at a party once (claimed it was because he was drunk and curly looks like angela but it’s not true he just thought curly was a cutie (even he’s super annoying))
- He mentioned being a ladies man so yeah he’s got experience.
Cathy
- Straight and cis, but a mega ally !!
- Her type is thoughtful and also big muscles
- She really thought bryon was perfect until he had his, err, mental breakdown and flipped out. It really hurt and she was so worried about him but he shut her out for months so she ended up moving on.
- Pretty sure bryon was her first bf? But she got with pb so she’s got a little bit of experience now
M&M
- I think gay and nb, and he doesn’t care about pronouns at all. He’s nonchalant like that
- Had a crush on mark lol. And Randy. He doesn’t date anyone because the only person he’s come out to is Cathy
- He thinks curly jumps him because he’s gay. Doesn’t realize its because he’s a hippie (curly is stupid but not homophobic)
- No experience, he’s like 13 and has never ever dated. Maybe he’s danced with someone at a school dance but he has no charm
Cherry
- Cishet ally
- Her type is canonly jerks. Very funny miss cherry.
- She dated bob, liked dally, in the series she liked Tim too. Why is she like this 💔
- A bit of experience, she dated bob after all.
Bob
- Bisexual in a homophobic way, cis
- Type is attractive rich people. He would never be attracted to a greaser, he’d rather jump off a cliff
- Dated cherry, likes Randy. He wants a very traditional future with a spouse and two children and he doesn’t think he can get that with a poor person for whatever reason. He also wants to be the “man” in the relationship.
- Lots of experience because he’s a whore I think. Flirts with most any rich person.
Marcia
- Cishet, doesn’t know that gay people are actually real. (When cherry told her she thought it was a joke)
- Type is funny lol. That’s why she likes twobit. I guess that means Randy is somewhat funny
- She actually isn’t that funny herself, she just likes to laugh.
- Very little experience. Randy was her first bf
Randy
- Gay and cis
- He likes bob. That’s it !
- He legit isn’t attracted to anyone else. After bob died he changed his entire ideology and became a hippie !! He was down bad. He doesn’t give a fuck about Marcia she’s just a girl to him
- Only has experience with Marcia and it’s not really the experience he wants because he is bobsexual
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redditreceipts · 8 months ago
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re the thing you reblogged about the TIF sister being offended by not being invited to a women's only event
i have a 'friend' like that, she first identified as nb, but used she/her pronouns as in our language they/them does not exist. then she wanted us to use they/them (yes the english words) while speaking our native language. And now she uses he/him and gets offended if someone messes up (she cut off her breasts by now but afaik she does not take T.. but i moved to a different country a few years ago and she always cancels when our friend group meets up when i visit, so idk).
Anyways, she ALWAYS wants to be included when stuff is about women. We met in a sports club of a male dominated niche sport, and she always used the women's changing rooms. There is a 'ladies weekend' organised of the sport every year and she wrote them to change their description to include trans people and nb people so she could go. and so on
these kinds of people put so much work into distancing themselves from us as women but then get mad if they are not included. it pisses me off so much. they are just as much guilty as erasing women's only spaces as TIMs
I mean I guess that's what happens when you take the definition of woman as "anyone who identifies as a woman" literally. Most "cis" women don't really identify as women, they just know that they are of the female sex and therefore women. Some women however know that they are women, but don't identify as such, so they are non-binary or transmasc and have everyone else affirm simultaneously the contradicting ideas of a. them knowing that they are women, but b. them not wanting to be recognised as women.
I don't really have a problem with people that are transmasc in women's spaces and conversations, but it gets really hard when you have to include them, but give them like a special status.
Also, are we from the same country? My native language is also gendered (like most Indo-European languages), and now people have started to demand that they get called "they/them" WHEN SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE 😭 most people in my country can't even pronounce the "th" sound
I still remember in my Russian class when we had a speaking exercise where we had to talk about ourselves, and some non-binary guy raised his hand and said "How can I use non-binary pronouns in Russian?" And I looked at our teacher and she looked so tired lmao
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will Tim chest/breastfeed Birdie? apologies if its a weird question, i just was wondering if there were reasons Tim hasn't gotten top surgery (or at least not yet) other than he either just chose not to/can't afford it at the moment. and i confess, something about seahorse dads/gnc birth parents feeding their babies the old fashioned way just makes my heart happy :D
Not a weird question at all :D
Tim during MH/S,IL currently doesn't have top surgery because he can't afford it and because he wouldn't be able to heal it properly if he could afford it. He's very aware of how the whole "masked state" thing could impact healing a surgery like that. Masky kinda does whatever he wants and Tim knows that "whatever he wants" usually doesnt include going to A&E or whatever when hes injured (broken leg incident, my headcanon is that Tim had to get that leg rebroken and set properly at some point because it healed wrong and left him with chronic pain and a limp, tho I haven't mentioned that in S,IL lol, it's just in my head constantly).
Also I guess medical trauma would have at least some role to play in the decision too currently? Later on he'd probably work through some of that, but currently he's probably not comfortable with much more medical treatment than just seeing his GP. Like, going to A&E or into an actual hospital isn't something he'll completely refuse to do, but it definitely puts him in a very specific and traumatized state of mind. Maybe even triggers Masky to front and Masky's way to fix that feeling of "oh god oh god oh god this is just like when we were a kid" is to simply leave no matter how important it was for them to be there 💀
But yeah! :D
he'd chest feed Birdie, since he's definitely not having top surgery between December 2013 and May 2014. I think he'd probably wait until Birdie was able to look after herself before he has top surgery, since he is a single dad until Birdie is like, 10ish, and top surgery does require you to rest a lot to recover from. Sure he's made a few friends in the pickup line at Birdie's school, but none of them he'd call close enough to ask for that sort of help from. And he's not in contact with his mum and doesn't have a dad, so he can't even ask for help from them, he's completely on his own unfortunately.
So honestly if Brian didn't come back into his life when Birdie was 10, he'd probably be waiting until Birdie was at least sorta 18 ish before he got top surgery, so he'd know she'd be okay and he'd also be able to rely on her to help him a bit after surgery, like, driving him home from the hospital after surgery and all that stuff. Thankfully Brian does come back into his life though so I'm thinking he probably has top surgery when Birdie's maybe 12-14ish? Something like that? Once Brian's properly established in their lives and Tim knows he's not going anywhere and they've reconnected fully so he feels comfortable asking for that kind of support from Brian. Obviously that still has it's own difficulties what with Brian being in a wheelchair, but they make it work, and I do think Brian would have an adaptive vehicle with have controls so he can drive and stuff.
I also love seahorse dads and GNC parents chest feeding and stuff like that, just, trans parents in general, y'know? It's just such a fuck you to society, especially a transphobic society and a society that doesn't expect fathers to be as involved in the care of their children as it expects mothers to. Tim being a single dad is already a great big middle finger to that stupid narrative of dads not being involved in childcare, and then him also being so involved in feeding Birdie as a baby too, idk, there's just something special about it to me.
I feel like chest feeding would definitely be something he finds kinda conflicting, like, he loves it because that's his baby he's looking after, but also I think it'd bring him a very specific brand of dysphoria so he really struggles with it mentally too. He definitely wouldn't end up chest feeding Jesse (his theoretical kid with Brian) later down the line. Mostly because I feel like at that point he'd have had top surgery and idk if you can still chest feed after that, I'm assuming no though, but also because even if he hadn't had top surgery, the dysphoria the first time just wouldn't be something he'd wanna have to deal with again, yknow? It was awful and he really really struggled with it, so it's not something he wants to put himself through again.
But yeah :D
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Introducing my jaytim fanfiction series Chained!
This is the largest writing project I have ever attempted! Currently (March 29th, 2024) it sits at a length of 153,000 words published and some back of the napkin math puts the final product in the ballpark of War and Peace’s 500,000+ words. halp lmao! This post is designed to serve as an introduction to what the story is about, what my Tim and Jason are gonna be like, and what parts of canon I’m sticking to
"So, what’s the premise ya dorkus malorkus?”
Jason is set in front of a contract that will grant near omnipotence over every facet of reality. The catch is that it requires the person who actually gains the power to be permanently bound into the service of someone else. Afraid of what this could do in the wrong hands, Jason asks Tim to be his new Master.
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(a picture of Jason with the halo and armor the contract grants him that I drew :3 also, have a link to the fics!)
After many hours of intense negotiations (the entire first fic in the series), they produce a subcontract designed to maintain Jason's basic rights as a person while still granting them enough power to overcome whatever whatever caused the contract to be written in the first place. Now all that's left is to destroy the evidence, win the fight, and start remaking the world in their image...
Expect to read about: extensive theological discussions complete with readings of the Bhagavad Gita, shape shifting, hijinks, Harley Quinn being a menace to society really good therapist, redonkulous amounts of time travel and time loops, murders most foul, webs of lies and deceit as Oracle works to uncover their secrets, angst, fluff, hurt, comfort, and I’m gonna stop there before I overpromise myself, turn into a puddle, and never manage to finish the damn thing, lol
The draw of the premise for me is exploring the constant renegotiation of boundaries between Jason and Tim as they navigate a truly terrible idea of a romance. This is slow burn in that it takes them a really long time to get together properly due to the aforementioned terrible idea part, but they know they’re in love very early on.
“Lay out the dynamics there hoss”
I reserve the right to fuss with these, but my intention is:
Jason/Tim = the genius fragile human made of pure spite and determination and their sentient bodyguard/servant monster who they like lowkey have a thing with. Think Integra Hellsing and Alucard.
Barbara Gorden versus Tim Drake = genius versus genius 5D chess headgames war. Think L and Light with Jason as Ryuuk. But like if Light was into Ryuuk.
Tim/Jason versus [MAIN VILLAIN SPOILERS] = warring Gods. The source of a new mythology.
Honestly, just mark down Hellsing Ultimate and Death Note animes as major influences.
“What’s a folk gotta do ta get some headcanons and characterization in this joint?”
For Tim I’m going mainly with him in his Red Robin run where he finds Bruce, blows up the League of assassins and shit like that. I love how absolutely arrogant this man is, and I find the way he struggles with the ethics of the job really neat. This version of Tim seems perfect to act as the commander: always tempted to do more, tempted to go further into the dark with power, but also having a lot of self control and dedication to doing right.
In terms of personal headcannons I am making him trans (cause I can), ADHD/Autistic (because it makes sense), and a dabbler in mild, lowkey amphetamine abuse (The coffee chugger who never sleeps of fanon intrigues me, but also caffeine kinda doesn’t do that, whereas adderall definitely does. He’ll use both stimulants as available and needed. I like a man who knows he badly overworks himself but who can’t realistically say he shouldn’t be overworking himself.)
Jason is a much harder cat to herd because writers have long been playing tug of war with his characterization, dragging him over the line to unhinged villain then back to just another bat over and over. I always like Jason, but I think he’s at his weakest at both extremes of the spectrum. He’s a good villain/antagonist in general, but a phenomenal one when he has real goals and morals. He’s a good anti-hero/tenuous ally in general, but a phenomenal one when he and the family have serious disagreements and Jason is still a killer.
I’m keeping this fic as canon compliant as possible, but there is a bare minimum amount of rearrangement necessary to make Jason consistently morally grey rather than an ethical checkers board that looks grey when you turn it sideways and squint.
Headcanons for Jason include chronic pain (I just think being blown up should screw with a guy’s nerves), trans (cause I can), and having schizophrenia (cause I see some possible canon evidence and he’s had a LOT of ableist stuff thrown his way and I don’t really like ‘well I’m not actually mentally ill’ as a resolution point to that. I am leaving it ambiguous if this has anything to do with the Lazarus Pit, but I intend it to be very unambiguous that it has nothing to do with why he has beef with the rest of the bats. His grievances are not delusions. His moral positions are not delusions. He will hallucinate and I may have him develop delusions, but he’ll also take medication for that and employ coping mechanisms like real life people with schizophrenia do. The mental illnesses are something he deals with, not something that controls him into being evil, no matter their source.)
Oh and it should go without saying that everyone has so much PTSD!
“Cut ta the chase already jabrony, give us da timeline”
Crisis on Infinite Earths, Final Crisis, Infinite Crisis, Flashpoint, Convergence, and the Rebirth changes happened in this fic's canon. We are dealing with multiple multiverses. If you’re familiar with the concept of ‘Hypertime’ used to facilitate the Elseworlds series and elaborated on during the Dark Knights: Metal stuff, I’m building off of that. If you’re not, don’t worry about it, there will be a far better explanation in the fic as the characters discover this shit for themselves.
This takes place during the "Rebirth" era of DC comics canon in a fanfic universe I made up within that canon multiverse called Earth 69. Earth 69 is my idea of what the pre-flashpoint timeline might have looked like if flashpoint never happened. Essentially I'm taking the post crisis stuff and extending it by acting as though that timeline just kept going, with plot points from New 52 and Rebirth canon welded onto the end of it. Keep in mind though, Earth 69 only coincidentally mirrors pre-flashpoint events; that canonical pre-flashpoint multiverse still exists!
Now lets go through just Earth 69′s timeline, focusing on Tim and Jason
Based on the letter Jason sends to Kid Devil, I put the year of his death as 1985. Ten years have passed since then at the start of this fic, making Tim 23 and Jason 25. The influence of alien tech and supergeniouses accelerated cultural and scientific growth such that while the fic takes place in 1995, every bit of tech and culture from 1980 to 2024 is fair game to show up. I find it fun to play around with laser turret drones and microfiche spy tactics all in the same story, so our heroes listened to My Chemical Romance on their smartphones while watching the fall of the Berlin Wall on live TV.
Batman (1940) issues #419 - #429 aka Jason’s post-crisis Robin years happen almost identically to the comics, except that Jason is a trans man and it was the Penguin that got Willis Todd locked up for life and then killed instead of Two Face. Bruce eventually finds out he’s trans and is supportive if understandably clueless. He raises Jason as his son. It’s important to me that Jason’s beef with Batman not leave either side objectively correct. Their relationship and hurts are a lot more compelling to me if Bruce isn’t transphobic.
A Place of Lonely Dying and the Robin (1993) series happen with very few deviations, with the understanding that I've read less of this than would be ideal and might get some things mixed up as I go along. Those deviations include Tim also being a trans man. Because he was looking into transition care for Jason, Bruce already knows about puberty blockers and HRT and supplies them to him. That becomes a big part of why Tim’s Dad is so freaked out by Tim being Robin. In this timeline, one of the major reasons Tim is so attached to the role of Robin is that it’s the first role in his life where he gets to be himself.
Lost Days happens as it did in comics except for two changes. Firstly when Talia sleeps with him, it's not sex, it's fully clothed cuddling and actual sleeping. I think this compromise preserves the important emotional conflict that I identified in this reading of her motivations, while sidestepping some of the problems the sex caused. The second change is that Jason won't have ended Lost Days by going to talk to Hush...
Because I HATE Thomas Elliot as a character. I hate how he was implemented. I hate that he kept showing up. I hate that they killed off Harold. I hate Hush. So it never happened on Earth 69! Instead I'll be emphasizing Tim and Jason's later fights, which have some similar emotional beats.
Now, whether or not Jason held a knife to Tim’s throat is kinda fucking important to how their relationship is interpreted! Most people, understandably, make this a serious event between the two. However, in all the comics I’ve been reading, I have seen zero characters ever acknowledge that Jason was involved. Tim hasn’t thought or said anything about it, even when it really seemed relevant. Jason technically tells Batman he did it in UtRH, but it's never brought up again and at this point it feels almost like Judd Winick tricked DC into publishing a headcanon that applies nowhere else lmao. Therefore I feel fine with just ditching this and putting more emphasis on their later fights which have similar emotional beats.
Under the Red Hood happens, with one modification. He knows about Stephanie's death and treats it with the gravity she deserves. He is targeting Black Mask because of Steph's death, and something very similar to the excellent fanfic 'hangman is coming down from the gallows' by nex_et_nox happens.
Young Justice (1998) happens, except for some of the mythological encounters. They did watch Santa get blown up, but I will be taking liberties with how the Greek Pantheon operates, and holy fucking shit, no they did not meet the goddess Kali like that, what the fuck, did no one even try to do a basic level of cultural sensitivity research?!? Anyways.
Jason does fight Batman, Green Arrow, and Mia as told in Green Arrow (2001) #69 - #72. Roy does hear about this, but he hears about it the way that Mia herself tells it when asked about it in the comic, i.e. “He didn’t hurt me. We just talked.” So he's not exactly all that freaked out about it.
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Roy Harper and Jason first meet in Outsiders (2003) #44 - #46 where he helps Roy and Dick exonerate Black Lightning with no ulterior motives, as in the comics.
Teen Titans (2003) #29 (The Titans Tower fight) happens as it did in comics. i.e. It was a fair one on one fight in which both participants understood that the other was not trying to kill them and both combatants walked away with nothing more than superficial injuries. Tim came away from that with a black eye and a grudge; Jason came away from it thinking Tim was pretty alright in his book. The writing on the wall was either Jason’s own blood, or red paint, because there is simply no earthly way that was Tim’s blood.
Teen Titans (2003) in general happens to Tim, though there’s a lot that connects to Countdown to Final Crisis (which can only have happened in the canonical pre-flashpoint multiverse) that may or may not need to be edited and removed.
The combination of events from Countdown to Final Crisis and Teen Titans (2003) #47 also happens, in which Jason attempts to save Duela Dent from murder, fails, connects with Donna at her funeral, and then is interrogated by Tim and Dick who suspect Jason murdered her. Oh and also it's where Tim kicks him in the pants lol. Obviously the reason Duela died and who murdered her has to be different, but all that should be details that don't matter for the fic's purposes.
I've already mentioned that Robin (1993) was being considered canon to Earth 69′s timeline, but make special note here of issue #177, in which Tim sends Jason to jail (his first prison stint, yay :D). One modification here: Jason's plan is to manipulate the established mob families into fighting the cops, leaving the local communities to govern themselves, not to use "kid gangs" to soften up the cops and the mob like happens in the comic. Because like... the on panel plan makes no sense, either logistically or for his character, and idk why but the way the author uses the concept of “kid gangs” leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Nightwing (1996) #118 - #122 aka Brothers in Blood aka the one where Jason becomes a tentacle vore monster happens exactly as depicted in comics. Exactly. As. Depicted. Well okay not exactly, I need him to not have threatened to bomb a building full of innocent people, that is a bridge too far, but everything else stays!
The Red Robin series happens as depicted, except for how Tim got the costume. The Red Robin costume that Tim wears in the pre-flashpoint multiverse was from that multiverse’s Earth 51. On Earth 69 the Red Robin costume was what Bruce made for Jason in anticipation of him wanting to outgrow the Robin mantel one day, like Nightwing did (tho uhhh great job reframing why the Nightwing mantel exists there Bruce lmao). When Dick gave the Robin role to Damian, Tim took the Red Robin outfit for himself from it’s pedestal next to The Memorial Case. There was a considerable amount of spite towards multiple people involved in that decision.
Battle for the Cowl is where it gets trickier. I am going to gut most of the plot of BftC and combine a few plot elements from it with the Batman and Robin (2009) series in order to create a much longer lasting conflict that preserves Jason as an anti-hero and his partnership with Scarlet/Sasha as a competing vigilante force to Dick and Damian.
After Bruce’s “death” Dick super does not ever want to be Batman. No one does really. Jason hears Bruce's post-death message and is understandably fucking devastated. He decides to say fuck that noise, Bruce is gone now, and I'm gonna be Batman since no one else seems willing to do it, and I'm gonna do it my way! Another Batman running around shooting people dead forces Dick’s hand and he takes up the Batman mantel to fight him. Batman and Robin (2009) #3 - #6 happen roughly as depicted, but with Jason still claiming to be Batman, and he doesn’t have red hair. (I’m so sorry white suit + pill helmet costume, but I must leave you behind for the sake of continuity). Jason's stint in Arkham and then Blackgate happens. Batman and Robin (2009) #23 - #25 happen as depicted, minus the part where Jason rigged the entire fucking civilian tram line to explode. After Jason and Scarlet fly off into the sunset together, they come back to Gotham and keep fighting.
Sometime after he's free again he does Roy a favor. I haven't decided what exactly, but it's big. I’ve toyed with the idea that he broke him out of prison because he doesn’t want to see Liam grow up without a dad in a move very similar to the Outsiders thing and roughly analogous to how he meets Roy in Red Hood and the Outlaws (2011), but that seems a lil repetitive and why would Roy even be in jail, so idk.
By this point the events of Red Robin are over and Tim has joined Dick and Damian in fighting Jason. Sometime before the climactic battle, Scarlet leaves for [FANFIC SPOILERS] reasons, so it becomes just Jason again. He goes through with something like the plan from Battle for the Cowl, luring Tim to his Batcave and offering him a place as his Robin. As in comics, Tim's answer is to pick up a crowbar and wack Jason across the face with it! Jason wins the fight and stabs Tim in the chest, knowing it's not gonna kill him, but fine with it leaving one hell of a scar! Dick's fight with Jason afterwards, and Jason jumping from the train into the harbor, happens as it did in BftC #3 with the exception of Dick wearing the Batsuit instead of Tim.
Starfire contacts Roy for help with a lengthy, off planet mission - one that absolutely needs a Bat on board. Every single Bat is up to their eyeballs in fires to put out and projects to run... except for Jason. Roy knows a lot of other Heroes with very good reasons to hate him, but in his personal experience, Jason’s always been a reliable if shady and asshole-ish guy working for the greater good. Ya’know. A Bat. It helps that they both think Bruce treats Dick like garbage sometimes and thus are inclined to be sympathetic towards Jason's beef with him. Roy vouches for him and brings him on board. They work well together, they save the days in outer space, and after a particularly dangerous mission they have a "thank fuck we're not dead" threesome together. This replaces the New 52 version of Red Hood and the Outlaws.
During the trip back to Earth, Jason confides in them about his woes and they encourage him to sort his shit out and get his life back together. Jason agrees and after considering it for a while he asks Roy and Starfire to help negotiate a truce between him and the rest of the Bats. They agree and thus begins two years of ceasefire and getting more friendly with the other Bats.
During those two years, the events of Dark Knights: Metal occur. The Source Wall is broken, and all the peoples of all the earths are plunged into a nightmare world. No one really remembers what happened, it’s all very vague and drifty, like remembering a dream, unsurprisingly. People have been referring to this event as The Nightmares.
This two year period also contains my version of Rebirth Red Hood and the Outlaws. Jason attempts to infiltrate Black Mask’s gang because the real Black Mask should be super dead and super unwilling to work with him. He’s a LOT more competent about it than in comics tho.
The biggest change is what goes down with Cobblepot. Jason’s original intention was to fake the penguin’s death and take all his power and assets from him, as he did in comics. However, he loses Artemis and Bizzaro before he goes through with that plan instead of after. At the last minute he switches the blanks out for lead. The Penguin is super dead.
He fights back when Bruce confronts him, but it's still a brutal fight and ultimately Roy has to separate them. Then Jason follows his father’s trail to the experimentation prison thing like in comics. Roy doesn’t die along the way, we don’t have the scene with Bruce at the diner, but in the end it turns out that his father is actually dead. No one survived that place. He only found boxes of dusty, decaying files, a grave out back, and Dr. Fate. Once he was convinced there was nothing more to find, Dr. Fate took him to John Constantine and The Contract, and that’s just about where our story begins!
Have another link, and I hope some of y’all enjoy what I’ve got so far!
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dairy-farmer · 1 year ago
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Hello! I finally found the courage to publicly create an account, and take this time to give you your flowers. You have single-handedly gotten me into the dc fandom (cough Tim Drake fandom cough) with your works alone. Your Piquancy series is one of my favourite fandom works ever, and I reread it every other month. Each story has its own appeal and the way you write is sublime! (Special shoutout to the icon, the legend, i want you to notice (when i'm not around) You're probably my favorite writer by a long shot, every single thing that you write just hits different. I also sent you a couple of ask prompts anonymously (Tim fixing a plate, Timber + Brutim Initials necklace, and Brutim Whump+ Damitim Marriage), and the way you turned those prompts into drabbles just made my day!
I know that fandom ain't that serious, but I just wanted to give you your flowers for inspiring this little trans girl from a third world country to start writing despite the language barrier. 🫶
Anyway, I have come bearing a prompt, a gift, feel free to add onto it, I know you'd do this prompt justice (or ignore this part completely)
Brutim + One-sided Damitim | Tim gets pregnant out of petty spite
Damian and Tim never got along, even after all these years working together, and the promises of Dick and Bruce of Damian growing out of his mean streak. There wasn't been a day where the two youngest Waynes haven't butted heads. This isn't to say that they never tried to get along, well, Tim did try. He tried being the bigger person, only for it to backfire as Damian saw this as a moment of weakness to further intensify his wrath towards the previous robin. Tim tried bonding with the brat by trying to engage with him using his interests, but Damian usually reacted by mockery followed by an insult or five.
Furthermore, Dick is always on Tim's case about being there for Damian, and actually exert some effort into forming a relationship with the al Ghul. No matter how many times Tim trying to explain their situation, he is only met with a disappointed look and a reminder that he's the older one so it's his responsibility to be the bigger person.
The breaking point was one day where almost everyone in the Batfamily was in the manor while Tim was running late from a meeting with Waynetech. Once, he got to the manor, to his surprise, Alfred wasn't there to greet him by the door, so he just went inside. He found everyone with the exception of Bruce in the entertainment room as they were all bonding over a card game. He was honestly shocked by this sight.
He first noticed how much of a teenager Damian actually is. He was no longer the cold-blooded trained assassin from the league, nor the violent sidekick of Batman. He looked like an average teenage boy while he laughed at one of Jason's quips, while giving Duke a high-five. Tim felt like an outsider, his insecurity about his position with the Wayne always loomed over his head. He tries not to think about how the robin mantle was ripped away from him by dick, or how he's technically emancipated from Bruce, as he watches Steph give Damian a noogie while he playfully swatted her back. When the hell did they become that close?
Tim makes his presence known, and while majority of the group welcomes him, the familiar sneer of Damian is all he could focus on. Cass whispers into Damian's ear while they both look at Tim, and his sneer becomes more intense. Tim could definitely tell that the room was less lively due to his sudden appearance. Tired from running Bruce's company, and hurt by the youngest Wayne's irrational dislike towards him. He had to let out his frustration, one way or the other.
"What the hell is your problem, Damian?" Tim shouted at the teen, silence fills the room as all attention turns to Tim.
"Your presence enough is a problem, Drake" Damian retorts while Cass squeezes Damian's arm whether for comfort or warning, Tim doesn't know.
"It's been years, why are you so desperate to keep me away from this family? What did I do to you?" Tim feels his tears coming, but he needed to know why Damian unreasonably hated him.
"I will never see you as family, Drake." There it is, the undeniable truth. Damian will never accept him as family. His vision is blurred by his tears as he runs out of the room. Behind him, he could hear Dick reprimand Damian for saying something hurtful, yet Tim doesn't hear a proclamation that Tim is part of the family. What Tim doesn't see is how the youngest Wayne is white out of shock from the words that left his mouth.
Tim instinctually runs to the place in the manor that gives him the most comfort, Bruce's bedroom. The room is dark as he enters and jumps under the covers. He is too caught up with his emotions that he fails to realize the warm body beside him. A familiar strong pair of arms envelop him, and the commanding deep voice is heard behind him. "What's wrong, ducky?" Tim bursts into tears as he puts his head on Bruce's hairy chest, the older man hands naturally rubs Tim's back for comfort. Tim just cries his heart out, and Bruce's presence is enough to comfort him, probably the only thing in this world that comforts him. He's been in a relationship with Bruce since the appearance of Damian, and he'd been ready to go public until Damian's disapproval of Tim made itself known. Despite, Bruce's willingness to go public immediately so he could proclaim his love for his ducky for the world to see, Tim knew that they needed to go about this carefully. This is why Tim was so adamant of forming a good relationship with Bruce's only biological son, he wanted this family as a united front from the judgement and vitriol they would inevitably receive once they go public. However, after years of trying, he finally got his answer that he will never obtain this acceptance.
"You finally okay now, Ducky?" Tim breaks from his stupor by Bruce's calm voice.
"I'm finally ready, Bruce."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes" Tim smiles up at Bruce, the tears had made his face flush beautifully. "Let's have a baby."
A few months later, Bruce called for a emergency family meeting, and announces that there would be a new addition to the family. Jason makes an off-comment about who did Bruce knock up now, until Tim enters the room and stands beside Bruce, with a visible baby bump. Everyone is rationally shocked by this announcement, then appalled by the implications of this relationship. Damian though, looks like the world just crashed in his eyes. Beyond the sketchy circumstances of how their relationship began, they were undeniably good for one another. It took a while but everyone slowly had gotten used to the change in the family, all except Damian who can't bear being in the same room with the two.
Around a year later, baby Damon Wayne is born to the surprise of everyone outside the family. (A last petty retaliation from Tim towards Damian.) As expected, the public sensationalizes Tim and Bruce's relationship since Bruce knew Tim since he was a child. The Justice League expresses their concern over this relationship, but no matter what they tried, they can't find a fault or outside influence within the relationship.
Tim took to motherhood beautifully, quitting his stressful CEO job, and deciding that he rather stay at home while taking care of baby Damon. A gradual shift occurred where he became Bruce Wayne's protege to Brucie Wayne's little wife. Even Dick and Jason seem to regard him with more authority, as those two have the most unresolved mommy issues. He takes care of (runs) the family as a mother would, and he is reward for it. Damian doesn't mouth off at him anymore, especially since Tim wouldn't give him the time of day.
If Damian will never see him as family, so be it. But once, Tim gives Bruce a baby that he desperately wants, nobody could contest his position in the family as the new matriarch of the Waynes. Little did Tim know that they reason why the youngest Wayne was so incessant of his opposition towards Tim being family all stemmed from his belief that Tim was never going to be his brother, but his intended wife.
wow thank you so much!!!!!!!🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰!!! it means a lot to hear that you enjoy my work!!!! and even more to know that you've picked up writing!!! it makes me ecstatic to hear that!!!!!!! so many of the people who have sent asks (including yours!!!!) are so brilliant, creative, and amazing and i hope that many of them begin writing or continue with it because the best part of my day is being able to open these asks and see some of the amazing asks that people have shared with me!!!! it means so much to know that you've gotten into dc, tim, and writing!!!!!!
and then that fic!!!!! onesided damitim is sooo good and always just hits slightly differently than other one-sided tim ships!!! tim's relationship to the family becoming strained because of his and damian's inability to "play nice". damian harboring secret feelings for tim as he grows older but never being able to process them well along with still holding onto the automatic hostility he feels for tim. as a kid the hostility had been genuine. his mother had told him about his place at his father's side being assured that the current 'robin' was just holding the position. damian believed that tim was going to be his intended wife and while in the league such a position would've demanded he respect drake...in gotham, unsupervised, and as a child he...he'd given into his resentment of tim. after learning that his position was not guaranteed, that his father hadn't even wanted let alone been interested in him as much as damian had been him...
taking his anger out on drake is easy because damian got to choose nothing in his life. he's coming to terms with his childhood being a lie, being denied a normal life- grayson comforts him through it and explains all the things damian hadn't even realized he'd lost. and then he sees drake and just sees another choice taken from him. that is his future wife. his future wife who dislikes him and then runs to father at every opportunity, who has father's ear, who does not want damian there. and so damian....young and full of anger...full of resentment throws himself into that hatred and rejection.
when he grows bigger...grows older its just something that is familiar. he doesn't hate drake much anymore. but having anything change and shift disturbs damian's tentative peace. and drake's continued insistence over the years about them being family. and not just drake pushes that but father as well. the only ones who don't are damian's siblings and they stop when they see how much it agitates him. they're the only ones who commiserate damian's misery at his future wife's continued insertion to his life. so...damian is resentful and unhappy with him. he talks down to him when no one looks, shoulders him when they pass each other in the hall, treats him coldly when the family demands they act civil, thrusts the burden of their relationship onto drake. drake is yet another cage for damian...until he's not.
until he reappears in the family's life after months of being in the wind despite grayson's repeated questioning to their father. turns out he wasn't in the wind. he was with father in one of the apartments scattered throughout the city and the two were doing their best to nurture drake's body to accept the baby in his womb. they'd been waiting to announce it, they'd been closely monitoring drake's health and making sure everything was alright before telling the family. drake is almost four months along but the only indication is the slightest swelling of his belly where his womb is nurturing father's child.
the rest of the family is taken aback, aghast even. but damian...damian is...aghast because...this...this isn't what is supposed to happen.
drake is...is HIS betrothed. drake is HIS intended and if father has decided to take drake for himself then...then what did that mean for damian? why had damian not known?
damian knows he'd stated multiple times how much he despised drake and didn't want him but..but that hadn't been REAL words. he'd just been inflating his words to better reflect his feelings, he often did that the rest of the family should know that!
damian knew drake would be his no matter what so he never bother to actually...process what that would look like. not until drake was already pregnant with someone else's child.
damian sees. he watches as drake turns gentle and sentimental. as he wanders the manor....glowing with pregnancy. the way he collects toys for his child, how he designs and decorates the nursery, the way he nuzzles with father and how father gently presses kisses to drake's mouth while his large hand covers the bump housing the...the child he put inside drake. drake is more certain. confident. he no longer scurries the corners of the manner like an uncertain mouse avoiding a housecat. he strides and side steps damian when they pass in the halls even though damian no longer tries to elbow or shoulder him when he passes.
the family slowly...warms to the idea of father and drake. as does the rest of gotham and the wider caped community. reservations are smoothed away and opposition dies.
suddenly no one has a problem with it. and father and drake do not hesitate to take it in stride.
they are closer...touchier...father always has a hand on drake. stroking his thigh or wrapped around his waist or kissing his neck.
one day damian gets up in the middle of the night for a drink and passes his father's bedroom, freezing as he hears the muffled gasps from timothy and the creaking of a bed. some deep animal part of damian starts to wail and howl at the realization of what he's hearing. something claws at the inside of his ribcage as he forces himself to keep moving. he returns to his bedroom and spends the night wishing for morning to come.
damian had never wanted tim. not until he realized he was gone. not until he realized that tim....had NEVER been his.
father lets it slip just how long his relationship with tim had been and damian has to excuse himself to go throw up.
on the day that damian's....younger brother is born damian is the only one not at the hospital. he'd had a math test that day and both father and grayson refused to let him miss it.
damian returns to a quiet house. even pennyworth is gone. its not until late when the hospital's visiting hours have ended that the family returns. all except father who managed to make the hospital bend the rules in exchange for a generous donation.
damian is nursing a flat soda and a half eaten pizza by the kitchen counter when grayson, so jovial and wet cheeked from tears, bounces in and beelines to damian to show him the pictures of a newborn cradled in an exhausted tim's arms.
tim is red cheeked, brow creased with exhaustion, and hair thick with sweat. but his eyes are bright as he gazes tenderly down at the sweet babe in his arms. a boy. a sweet little boy.
his name? damon.
grayson looks so tender as he says it, his smile blinding as he looks to damian, clearly eager to see his approval.
tim had insisted on the name, grayson explained. it was a peace offering to damian, some way to finally bury the hatchet that had always been between them by naming his and bruce's child after him.
it seems that damian is the only one that sees that name for what it really is. the rest of the family believes that its a kindness, a sweet gesture.
only damian knows of the pang in his heart at the pointed dig. if tim was not welcome in damian's family he would make his own with an entirely new damian as well.
timothy and the baby arrive home from the hospital a few short days later. and damian expects more of that cold war tension that had been going on but instead timothy ignores him entirely.
he's utterly besotted by his child and is unable to lend damian even a lick of attention. father is similarly infatuated with the child, holding and caressing them at the slightest noise they make.
the family makes jokes about father and his tender handed nervousness but they all know how desperately father had ached for the child. apparently, he'd been asking timothy for years to carry his child, nearly as long as they'd been together and damian...damian needs to sit down every time he thinks on it too long.
damian would normally be so vocal. so involved in his family's going ons.
but...ever since timothy announced his pregnancy damian had found himself falling more and more silent.
in the beginning he'd done his best to point a finger outward. to find someone or something else to blame for his misery...but in the end it all pointed back to one thing. one person.
himself.
he did this to himself.
the wife he'd resented and refused to cherish would now never be his.
and damian would now always be on the periphery. on the outside looking in. watching a family that would never be his.
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xofemeraldstars · 6 months ago
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Tim did too many interviews but I remember Oliver said it in the Gay Times interview too, if that helps. It was supposed to be around s4 (and the way they played the shooting, the panic attacks etc it makes sense) but someone "higher up" at Fox said no. Then Tim left as a writer and it was only revisited when he came back
first i wanna thank @hiriaeth @bosons @trans-buckleyy and @aplaceinme for the replies on the other ask regarding this topic - i kinda feel like i had to do homework lol i rewatched/listened to the zach sang interview (last time i was doing garden work when listening heh) and imma add something under a read more from the end of that interview
also on zach sang, he talks about how oliver doesn't know if the network change was to thank for bi buck but more tim coming back and saying this is the story he wants to tell - and obviously he got the green light woo!
onto the gay times interview this was the only mention regarding a timeline i found and nothing else about where it would have gone - and idk but all the other articles i saw after this seemed to be just speculations by fans that then got put down as fact? like mentioned in the replies on the other ask:
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which is no definite timeline for when it was supposedly first floated and as @trans-buckleyy said it sounds like it was shot down right away that no plans for what and who were most likely written - ALSO i have seen people theorize that the bi awakening could have happened with ravi or albert! and that whole nerighbor SL with albert... you know i could see it happening there as a conclusion 👀
so yeah there is a lot of reading more into it than there is and there are multiple possible ways it could have gone way back when
one day i might dive into the tim interviews but that day is not today besties, i wanna make gifs 😭
gonna put this under a read more, but there is this short part at the end of the zach sang interview when they ask if he wants buck/eddie to happen and he goes with his usual he's open to it as long as that's "what tim decides is the most honest way to continue telling these stories then yeah" but for a moment there he goes: "but as far as do I want it to.. i also don't quite know" then he goes to say the tim part - i haven't seen this part mentioned before online myself so i wanted to add it here
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suzukiblu · 8 months ago
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WIP WEDNESDAY GAME
Slimmed-down post/rules, but originally taken from @kedreeva.
It’s WIP Wednesday! This week's theme is "Young Justice is straight-up feral about each other (and a little extra feral about their clone boy)".
Here’s how it works:
I will post the file names of five WIPs, and will also post a snippet of new content from one of them to get the ball rolling.
Send me an ask with the name of one of the listed WIPs and I will write you a minimum of three sentences in that WIP in response!
Multiple requests are fine, but I’d prefer if you sent them in separate asks. Just a little easier for me to fill them that way.
If you’re reading this, you’re invited!
WIP names:
it's not fine anymore
a pocketful of Kons 
the Core Four gangs up on Kon’s objectification kink 
trans Clark and cis Kon
YJ packs up and gets pupped
snippet from “it's not fine anymore”:
Meaning, it's less fine that his dick doesn't work. 
Kon didn't even know it didn't, when he first got out of the vat. It didn't even occur to him to think about it, what with all the other shit that'd been going on at the time. It's been a few failed relationships since then, though, and a lot of meeting a lot of very attractive people in very tight clothes in very high-stress situations, and also there's been literal mind control and love spells and sex pollen and . . . 
Yeah, well. So his dick definitely doesn't work. 
Very, very thoroughly, does his dick not work. 
If nothing else, being in the same room as Starfire and Nightwing while they were actively flirting with each other across the briefing table had very decisively closed the door on any possible chance of Kon just being a late bloomer or having a low sex drive or . . . or whatever. Whatever else it could've been. 
Kon had really, really wanted it to be him just being a late bloomer. 
But it's definitely not him just being a late bloomer. 
This would be less of an issue if Cassie and Bart and Tim hadn't all apparently noticed that he's stopped flirting with everything that moves and have apparently all come to the conclusion that said ceasefire on his pathetic attempts at acting like a normal and functional teenager means he's like, emotionally matured or something and therefore is ready for . . . well . . . 
Them. 
Also Bart reading like sixteen different libraries and actually emotionally maturing probably didn't help either, in retrospect.
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