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bonefall · 2 years ago
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I don’t know if the Erin’s are romanticizing abuse, don’t realize they’re writing it, or both because this is genuinely getting concerning
They’ve written how many abusive husbands and then said that those husbands are actually great people who deserve everything?
Well, let's apply Occam's Razor. Which of these makes the most sense;
The writing team has accidentally written at least 3 (more like 5) realistic depictions of domestic abuse, and just happen to be consistently more sympathetic to the men in the relationships, and find that romantic involvement makes a character humanizing in general Or
The writing team has a warped perception of what healthy love is supposed to look like, and think that the behaviors they depict are normal and just part of relationships.
I think the phrase "romanticizing abuse" is kind of unhelpful tbh, because it's not totally accurate. Most people believe they're doing the right thing. It's not likely that they KNOW what they're doing is destructive, and are secretly twirling an evil mustache as they write it into a teenage cat book series in the hopes of making more victims.
It's not entirely romanticism/glorification, it's deeper. It's the idea that these behaviors are normal, understandable, and they as writers either a total disinterest in the internal lives of the victims (Turtle, Bumble) or the desire to "explore" the relationship as if both sides are on equal footing/mutually toxic (Squilf)
And Tom... Tom's redemption ties into the narrative about blood that DOTC tells. It says that having children produces a goodness in men, and biological connection (even to people you don't know) is an intrinsic, sometimes tragic fact of life. The only time Tom ever does something that wasn't actively malicious was saving his daughter, Sparrow Fur.
For that, and that alone, he is redeemed. And thus deserves a cutesy reward in his afterlife.
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hxney-lemcn · 6 months ago
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Kiss me Silly — Mr. Crawling, Gap, Silvair, Chopped, Hugeface, and Scarletella x gn! reader
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summery: kisses with some of the Homicipher boys.
tw: slight unrequited feelings (I mean it's in the game).
wc: 1.2k (~200 per character)
Master List
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˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Crawling
❥Your first kiss is confusing to say the least. Mr. Crawling doesn’t know what your talking about and you try your best to explain what a kiss is and why you do it. “We touch lip” “Only someone you many like���. He doesn’t fully understand it, but you seem to like pressing your lips together, and he honestly finds himself liking it too. Any excuse to touch you is worth it in his eyes, and he finds himself wanting to do it again and again.
❥Thankfully, Mr. Crawling is a fast learner, and kisses go from sloppy to coherent quickly. Tugging at your clothes and chirping cutely in such a way you can’t say no. Kiss his lips, his forehead, cheeks, nose, he doesn’t care, he just wants your affection and you’ve open him to a whole new world.
❥Will give you kisses in return. In fact, it’s become a fifty fifty whether you get a kiss or head pats in comfort. When I say kiss I mean forehead kisses, he just finds it so comforting. If you’re really lucky he’ll pat your head and give you a kiss.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Gap
❥No. Sorry, but Mr. Gap isn’t a fan of any kind of affection. He barely understands the concept of liking someone! Though…you are strange. He likes messing with you, grinning devilishly every time he asks for your heart. He hasn’t had this kind of entertainment for a long time. Mr. Gap can’t deny he’s curious about those magazines you read. Why do humans do such strange things with each other?
❥After enough time, his curiosity beats his apprehension, agreeing to allow you to show ONE sign of affection. Just one though, and not for long. Tries his hardest to not back away when your face inches closer, watching you wearily as you press your lips to his. It’s weird, and uncomfortable, and his cold skin feels oddly warm. Disappears the second you pull away. 
❥Safe to say that kisses are far and few in between. Mr. Gap has a weird relationship with the sign of affection (or any). He feels awkward and doesn’t like how strange (vulnerable) it makes him feel, but on the other hand he has you try again, and he’s not sure why. Doesn’t want to dissect why (it’s cus you only do it with him and makes him feel special).
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Silvair
❥Hahaha. He’s confused. He doesn’t understand your strange human emotions nor your fondness. You’re his test subject, and he takes some time to ponder over your offer. His scientist mindset takes over, thinks of the whole situation like a test. Sorry :/
❥Doesn’t move when you kiss him. To be fair he doesn’t know what a kiss entails, lets you take the lead. He’s confused when you pull away with a frown, your nerves clear.,,interesting. Notes the way you act in a file in his mind to go through later, your mannerisms are just the most intriguing. You have to teach him how to kiss first, he’s willing to go along with your whims as long as you don’t expect too much from the interaction.
❥Strangly, over time he finds himself expecting your affections. Cheek kisses, lip kisses, its an odd slice of domecity. He comes back from his research and you’ll greet him with a small kiss. If you forget he gets a strange hollow feeling…very strange. Will watch you until you realize he’s waiting for a greeting kiss, that nasty feeling leaving the second your warm lips land on his own. How very strange…
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Chopped
❥Looks at you weirdly. Why would you want to touch your lips to his? He doesn’t get it. Says no at first, but over time his curiosity gets the best of him. Demands that you pick him up and touch your lips together. Wants to know why you even asked. Gets a strange fluttery feeling (even though he doesn’t have a body) and finds the action oddly enticing. Demands you do it again the second you pull away, a grin stretching from ear to ear. 
❥You can only kiss him on his terms, but more often than not he’s demanding you for one. Always gets a giant dopy grin afterwards, basking in your warmth. He’s on top of the world when you shower him with affection. Leave kisses all over his face. Do it. Mr. Chopped will become a giggly mess.
❥Get’s a bit insecure that he can’t kiss you without help. He wishes he could just kiss you when he wanted instead of asking you to pick him up. But those thoughts are quickly squashed when you brighten up at seeing him, placing a quick kiss to his cheek. If he’s sleeping on the otherhand…don’t do it, no matter how cute he looks, he hate surprises, even if it’s just you.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Hugeface
❥Uhm…I’m sorry to say but I’m not sure this is possible. Well, it could be if you tried hard enough. Mr. Hugeface has no idea what you’re yapping on about, you have to walk him through the steps (like bringing you close enough to his face). He’s giggling to himself as he strains to see you leaning your little head closer to his bigger one. 
❥Placing your lips to his is a difficult task when he finds himself grinning so widely at how cute you are. Can’t get enough of your kisses. Tries to kiss you back…at least he doesn’t accidentally eat you? Unfortunately, this sign of affection is a one way street, but hey! Mr. Hugeface can’t say no when you want to kiss him, it feels like little tickles.
❥Instead, Mr. Hugeface will pat your head with a finger (🙏 he tries his hardest to not squish you). Always coos at you, calling you cute over and over. Can you blame him? He’s so happy that a small little human is showing him affection! Sometimes he just wants to squish you! But he won’t…I swear, cus then he won’t be able to get any more kisses :( 
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ Mr. Scarletella
❥Oh boy. This guy… Won’t hesitate to do what you ask. Sure, he doesn’t understand what you’re talking about exactly or why you’d want to do such a thing, but who was he to question you? Leans down and watches you expectantly as your face inches closer, static thrumming inside his ears from excitement. Mr. Scarletella can’t deny how exciting it is to be so close to you.
❥Completely hooked the second your lips meet, his creepy grin spreading so wide it nearly breaks your kiss. I hope you’re happy, you now have a demon already at your beck and call ready to end the world if you promise him a kiss…well I guess he’d do that anyways if it made you happy. Notices that if he does things you like you kiss him more. Becomes a Pavlov’s dog situation. 
❥As boundary breaking and homicidal as Mr. Scarletella was, he won’t kiss you first. It would be wrong, you call the shots, not him, so don’t expect him to start anything. Watches you like a demonic puppy dog when he wants a kiss (all the time). Just…be a bit careful with this newfound power, Mr. Scarletella won’t take too kindly if you deny him what he wants (just a bit of a red flag…just a bit…).
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archaospetryx · 4 days ago
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Bless @queenie-draws-stuff for allowing permission to use their merch photos bc I need to dissect the silhouettes definitely bc I’m so interested in the characters,,,
I’m in it for the Diligence silhouette but I’m /srs cuz these are so interesting until I buy the print myself or someone deciphers some of the hidden messages cuz we got 2 deciphered))
OK STARTING ON MY BIGGEST HYPERFIXIATION YET,,,
The Gaslight district poster,,,
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Ok fellas so thanks to @queenie-draws-stuff zooming in on the pictures I came to notice these silhouettes invading whatever tower these are and I’m gonna try to dissect as best as possible.
The Mother Angel
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Very self explanatory that this IS the Mother
Her role is VERY crucial being the one to deliver the egg needed to create a human cuz remember: the picture seen in the lab before Ken burns it down shows Temperance holding baby Mel hatched from an egg so it’s possibly they modified one of her eggs to create the prophesied human
Not much to say cuz I can’t see what she’d do yet since she’s confirmed to still be alive unlike the next few I’ll yap abt
Diligence(don’t tell me it’s not him I know it’s him))
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THE QUEEN RETURNS🔥🔥🔥 ITS CANON CUZ THEY LIVED AT THE END BUT I TRUST GLITCH N PARTTIMESEAGULL TO USE HIM WELL🫶🫶🙏✨🫶🙏
The more I look at it the more I’m convinced it’s Diligence OK SO LETS GET TO IT
This is DEFINITELY Diligence(99% chance I’m confident)) bc as far as we know he’s combat-related given his duty is to GUARD the entrance to Paradise lost and the arm shown in this silhouette matches the exact sword he uses to fight Ken
There’s no way another Virtue could be combat related bc as far as we know Diligence has been seen in the front of the Virtue Corp newspaper to rlly solidify that they’re the HEAD guard or at the very least a force to be reckoned with and we’re right seeing as how he could overpower Ken if not for the slip up
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When you look at the arm he loses, it’s clear that his RIGHT arm gets chopped off. And the length to where it gets cut off is elbow length. Plus the weapon design matches that of the sword Diligence uses
What bothers me/pos is the left arm. Where are the shoulder pads? Clearly Diligence came back/revived at the end of the pilot and he seemed messed up but either this poster was made BEFORE The final or will foreshadow Diligence’s new form
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Plus what is his left arm doing??? I can’t see it correctly so if anyone can clearly see it pls aid a desperate Diligencd fansimp I don’t even see the chains dangling down but trust in Glitch I KNOW this is Diligence esp how both he and Temperance appeared on the announcement for the voice cast and usually that means they’re a part of the main cast whether antag or protag(I’m delusional unless proven otherwise))
Very sure Diligence gets injured once again or something happens to him to get his arm to look weirdly shaped on the left. Cuz the right seems to show the virtue silhouette having something thick on the shoulders while the left seems empty and almost thin-like
Theory is that someone or something punishes Diligence for letting the intruders free thus resulting in the left arm looking weird. Idk not confident abt that but again I cannot stress the right arm cuz it’s EXACTLY the same sword type he uses during the fight and the same length from the elbow
DONT CALL ME CRAZY I KNOW ITS DILIGENCE HE’LL BE PART OF THE MAIN ANTAGONISTS BC HES NOT GONNA LET THOSE ROTLINGS GO AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO HIM
There’s no way it’s another virtue unless proven otherwise cuz as far as we know we were hinted 2 unknown Virtues within one of the news papers showing Diligence n Temperance in it and so far none resemble the silhouette more than DILIGENCE especially with the right sword arm. Their left arms are even exposed and yet none match the silhouette and the CLOSEST we get due to the right arm and the pose is Diligence
Plus the stance. Tell me that virtue isn’t serving without telling me that virtue isn’t serving. Bc let’s be honest Diligence REALLY made the impression of tgd’s prettiest but deadliest enemy yet and ofc the stance shows a level of sass/confidence.
And I can ALMOST see the faintest outline of his hat from the head but pls just let it be confirmed that Diligence will live until the end of the series he has SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND U GET MICHAEL OF ALL PEOPLE TO VOICE HIM LIKE CMON HE NEEDS TO LIVE AT LEAST TILL THE END
In all seriousness tho I rlly hope they use Diligence wisely but more bc he has so much potential being a threat since if the Angel Storm didn’t throw him off balance, he would’ve ended Ken or at the very least capture all of them given how he choke holder that guy
Glitch, Parttimeseagull, I need more Diligence pls
A new Virtue? Or Temperance’s new body
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Oh THIS is for my fellow Temperance lovers or at least those looking forward to another new Virtue
AND SPEAKING OF VIRTUES I have a heavy theory abt this being Temperance. I’m 20-30% confident bc of the design alone
Again the ONLY Virtue to wear clothes being Temperance only and his lab coat reaches at least until his ankles which the silhouette does follow along too
However the Silhouette shows multiple wires or tubes wrapped around the body, and its giving off “evil mad scientist” guy and which better candidate than to look no further at Temperance
And ofc the rules of the gaslight district is that NO ONE CAN REALLY DIE so yeah Temperance is definitely suffering inside Ken over and over again and I’m sure one was or another they’ll be back bc who else would finish the weird egg seen in the lab than the head scientist himself?(which this also ties to the next character))
The code seen below them reads “He’s fulltime now” meaning either this is a higher Virtue given Temperance is second to the order of the Virtues(with Diligence ranking 4th)), or it IS Temperance in a new body bc mind you that his body got possibly damaged or burnt along his lab
So there’s a possibility after coming back to Paradise lost, he upgrades his body
Or at the unlikely case this isn’t Temperance, this can possibly be Chastity given the wires do resemble some type of restrain that wraps around the arms and body
This creature
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I am SO SO SURE that THIS is the monster/entity we see within the egg hanging above the laboratory.
I have no idea what to say but this looks to be similar to the Mother given the right “arm” looks to be the head of an Angel but a halo is present just above its real head
Betting that this is the “???” Thing in Temperance’s lab/what he’s been creating OR the baby chick that hatches from the egg Mel stole
Friend of mine pointed out how the Mother said that a “legion of angels” will lead/guide Mel to destroying the district/all immortals and potentially it could start from that single chick
It seems bipedal almost so it could be a Virtue-Angel mix abomination. Someone on YT mentioned how it could be the Mecha pope or some form of mech-flesh abomination
SO FAR THATS ALL I HAVE CUZ I NEED TO SPEAK THIS OUT ESP TO MY FELLOW VIRTUE ENJOYERS I SEE U THERE
I mainly wanted to make this solely to yap how Diligence definitely will come back and be part of the main storyline/will be a very important antagonist compared to the other remaining Virtues bc I’m THAT desperate for Diligence but I thought why not try to dissect what else I’ve seen so far
If anyone has the poster plllsss share ur findings bc there’s a code that I can’t crack that’s on the roof of the flies in the middle👇��
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Also this thing here that someone decoded saying “It didn’t grow back”
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Now to the “it didn’t grow back” part I’m still struggling on WHO this is meant to be? My brain is rlly all on Diligence but I can’t help but think that out of ALL the immortals who had their limbs blown up or ripped apart— none could compare to Diligence despite the end showing us his limbs are still intact.
Bc he’s the ONLY character to be shown having their limbs chopped off only to grow back as a sword. Tho it would be silly to point this to Joshua cuz man got his head splat by his ex friend😭 but what exactly is this message related to…? Idk…
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sgiandubh · 9 months ago
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idk if you’ve watched it yet but in the 10th celebration video, the part where Sam says “we dnt even know when we’ll be released” and Caitríona’s reaction to it had me👀….like the rest of us it seems they too can’t wait for it all to end so they can finally “released” and free from St*rz clutches. But i thought that was interesting thing to take notice of
Dear Reaction Anon,
Of course I watched it. Friday, even. But I have a dinner to plan for Wednesday, my car to sell (plot thickens...), dinners in town and various people to see.... So, sorry for the delayed answer and so incredibly sorry for being also late to the Shipper Feast.
Almost everything has been dissected to death, as it always happens, but I might still throw in my two cents, after all. So, I'll simply relisten to that video as I answer you and hit stop every time something interesting that has not been mentioned in here yet, made me go hmmm, ok?
At the 01:35 mark, S: 'yeah, it was such a whirlwind, you know, I mean, going straight into screentests and then looking for THE Claire, and it took quite a while, and then this one landed in Scotland, you know, weeks before we just started'
Here is her reaction - definitely fed up with this peasant, right?
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Also, as a side note, did you notice how emotional S gets every single time babies and domestic scenes are mentioned? For a man who supposedly has no family of his own, that is surely strange.
And then you are so, so right, Anon, this is how she reacted to his 'being in a bubble for ten years and we don't even know when we'll be released what the world looks like' comment:
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Did I notice an impish smile? Well, I surely did, Anon - and so did you.
It was a smart move to watch them watch OL. I found it very interesting, lots of clues about their joint dynamic:
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She, as always, is leading the pack. He is more reserved and usually takes his cues from her, constantly seeks her approval. Gradually relaxes as she seems to imply the context is 'safe enough' to loosen up a bit. And yes, this is all instinctive, by now. If I knew absolutely nothing about These Two and saw them act and react like this IRL, I would definitely have questions.
And yes, I think he could listen to her talking about WWII medical pamphlets and bandages for days and still never get bored. This guy still lives to make her laugh:
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Psst, Anon - see how they hate each other, here? Which really makes me think the 'just promo/fan service' argument is borderline schizophrenic, really - and why is S wooden and clumsy when promoting anything else with ANY OTHER WOMAN in our galaxy, by the way? Also, S and McTavish pretending they were still friends at that MIK event in London was 'just fan service' - this? This is not really that.
And then, oh dear me darling, that photo. I can almost hear two different kinds of 'shiiiiit' reactions, here:
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He knows he mustn't slip - as he usually does, she is more like 'shiiiiit, hehehe, see what we've done here'. Logically, then, he brings about that sorry modicum of an excuse 'I've been so jetlagged' (jetlag was actually the least problematic thing, in that pic, ROFL; also, there are two people in that pic, bless your 💖🤣). Followed by the only diversion he could think of: bringing in the 'thousands of people, that was incredible, blah blah' - and then she dutifully chimes in: ' I think we did Hall H...? the big one...?' (strange comments for a pic where one can see two very cozy and scantily dressed people, LOL). Dilute, dilute, dilute. But it's Horowitz reply that interested me the most: ' it's too bad you guys aren't photogenic, even after a long flight, like what a mess you guys look like, there':
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He threw a bait, C took it: 'weeelllll...' and then Josh ended it with a simple, smiling 'please' that, in my mind, is on par with KDS' 'believe what you want'.
I also found very telling one of the last remarks by Horowitz, too: ' it's ok, they can't fire you now, it's too late, it's way too late'. Granted, it was about the trivia and allegedly in jest, but really?
And there you have it, Anon. Perhaps it's not much, but as always, I tried to take the road less traveled by. Thanks for giving me the opportunity.
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lysitheatheglasscannon · 20 days ago
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So fair warning, I will be critiquing the show here. Please do not read further if you are sensitive or are combative. For these people, I offer you an ox bezoar and wish you a great day. For the people who are interested, please read on:
Does anyone in the Apothecary Diaries fandom NOT like Jinmao, out of curiosity? Or have any criticisms in general of the show? I am curious. There is a reason I am asking. It seems to not be talked about much if there is, as I’ve tried googling and finding related tags on the subject.
This is a show that I heard about quite a bit, and everyone was singing it’s praises. As such, I presumed it must be something extraordinary in its romance genre. I’m not a stranger to slow burn romances. I’ve shared some funny memes and other posts about the show as a way to try to get into it more mentally. I thought maybe I’d like it more if I interacted more with the fandom.
However, I must confess that I find the show as a whole to be a disappointment. In my opinion, it does not do its romance between the two leads well at all. To quickly summarize- Jinmao makes no sense at all. And their “relationship” is problematic. The frog episode that everyone is so giddy over lately is basically sexual assault both ways. She doesn’t seem to want him on top of her, and he doesn’t ask her for her consent or give her an opening to leave that position. And she keeps messing with his “frog” despite knowing full well what it is, that it makes him uncomfortable. These people are not compatible at the least, and toxic at worst.
Maomao does not want a relationship (friendship or romantic.) Jinshi does. Maomao does not care about nor want sex. Jinshi does. Maomao wants to stick her head in the sand and do nothing but play with poisons. Jinshi is someone in authority who cannot give that authority up. He has responsibilities that, should they be together, would fall some on her. Maomao is distant and does not like people in general. Jinshi is a golden retriever who is desperate for any real affection and falls for the first nobody (I do not mean to be rude here) that does not fawn all over him. Why would someone in his position ever give someone like her a romantic or sexual thought? This guy is surrounded by beautiful women and would have some level of societal expectation to marry someone for their beauty, talents, and political leverage. (We can’t use Maomao’s medicinal talents here as a rebuttal, as it’s technically illegal for her to be doing what she is doing. And her dad being who is can’t count either, because Jinshi was obsessed [creepily, I might add] way before her dad showed up.) And finally, Jinshi has sexually harassed Maomao before and never apologized for it. How in heavens name, is this romantic?
I also find the pacing to be odd, and some story points that are dropped with no other mention or explanation. That is something I find to be frustrating. My form of watching entertainment is to dissect and analyze characters and narratives, so to have no explanation for something (even after some time), is frankly infuriating. Small things can be very important. One example in the burns mentioned on a lady’s arm in S1. I forget her name. Jinshi orders his guard guy to find a lady with burns. Much, much later, we do. A lady had been sending secret messages via fireworks for slave trade. But why did she have burns? I rewatched S1 and either missed an answer or maybe it doesn’t exist. My husband didn’t either. She had been doing this for years, it seems. She would be experienced enough to not burn herself. Or are her burns from something else?? What then? Why introduce this mystery as “the lady with the burns” if the burns are not significant? There are other examples, but I don’t feel like typing them out. At times I felt disoriented by the pacing and sometimes confused on the timeline. Even Steins;Gate explained important things well and handled lots of confusing aspects better.
I’m confused that this show is what took off and is so popular. When watching, I found myself comparing it sometimes to another show I enjoyed in the past. One that I think does its pacing and inter-personal relationships much better. I’ve decided to abandon Apothecary Diaries after the frog incident even though I’ve watched well into season 2. My husband and I had been watching it together.
Instead, I had him watch some of Raven of the Inner Palace yesterday. I told him my opinions on both shows and asked him to compare. (He had greatly liked the mystery aspect of Apothecary, but very much disliked Jinshi and Jinmao.) He agreed with me. I even asked him “you’re not just saying that to humor me, correct?” And he said he wasn’t. That the pacing and inter-personal relationships were better in Raven. And as a ship, Raven and the Emperor were a better match and made sense. (Even if they don’t end up together, I love their friendship. I don’t see a genuine friendship between Maomao and Jinshi.) Raven (as I call her) and Maomao are both traumatized teenagers with repressed emotions and with a lack of social cues. But as my husband said: “one feels real and the other falls flat.” I know some people headcannon Maomao as Autistic, but in my experience (as an Autistic person), Maomao does not make me think of her that way. I think either poor writing and/or CPTSD are more to blame for Maomao.
[Side rant] And it’s a bit insulting that yet another “emotionless” character is labeled by a fandom as Autistic as if the Autism Spectrum isn’t a spectrum, and as if Autistic people can’t have and feel emotions too. (We can actually be hyper-empathetic, btw.)
Of course, these are just my feelings and my husband’s feelings on the matter. People have the right to love the show and ship their characters together. My viewpoint is just one of someone who does not “see the vision”, as the cool kids say. And I’m curious if anyone else feels this way. I thank everyone for their time reading, and hope everyone can be civil in our discourse.
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vasito-de-leche · 1 year ago
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I love how you write, your interpretations of characters are my favorite. If you're okay with it, may I ask for romantic headcanons of Horropedia (Reverse 1999) x Reader? I would love to know what he is like when he's developing a crush, how he confronts his feelings when he realized them, what he's like when in a romantic relationship, etc. Thank you very much!
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;R1999 HORROPEDIA - Relationship Headcanons
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Compilation of headcanons about Horropedia in a romantic relationship.
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awe! i'm glad you like my stuff! and thank you for the lovely words and request, cause i've been itching to write for horropedia <3
i got a liiiiittle carried away with this one, hope that's alright!
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Horropedia as a character is fascinating because at a surface level he's a mess and a walking stereotype - a "nerdy nerd" with a very specific hyperfixation on the horror genre, the tall guy with glasses who explains the plot and does his own thing regardless of how others view him, the first one to die in a movie solely because he's perceived as cringe etc, etc.
And yet, his medium is "logic" - he, better than anyone, understands the nonsensical laws that make up the concept of horror, he sees the patterns and the reason why some things are done this way instead of that way. Through logic, pattern recognition and analysis, Horropedia can pretty much understand anything and work his way around any problem, no matter how unorthodox his solutions may be.
In a sense, I'd compare Horropedia to Pavia. Both are characters who are subject to the stereotypes and images others assign to them - but whereas Pavia both fights and plays into all of these roles, Horropedia just brushes it off and continues doing his own thing, being genuine and unapologetically himself.
When it comes to romance, it's easy to assume Horropedia has no interest in it - they're two different genres that don't go together most of the time. It's also easy to assume that he would be a troublesome partner, due to the laser focus attention he gives to his interests. And the latter is partially true: his lackluster love life is entirely because romance hasn't entered his radar, at least not enough to pull his attention away from his one true love.
But I think this is where the aspect of "logic" comes into play. All Horropedia needs is that spark, to find something to truly become invested in when it comes to romance - once he finds it, he'll dedicate the same amount of attention to detail and care as the horror movies he loves so much.
On the subject of Horropedia developing a crush.
Similar to Click, Horropedia would need some time to start noticing the signs of a crush - the difference is that Horropedia is a little quicker when it comes to realizing he's fallen for someone. His forte is horror movies, but he still knows a thing or two when it comes to other genres.
When he cannot rationalize his behaviour around you in a way that makes sense to his current fixation or situation, that's when he knows. And given how straightforward (to the point of bordering on obliviously rude) Horropedia can be, I'd say he'd also be the type to address this crush right away. Now that there's this brand new thing in his life, he'd like to understand it better - to dissect and study the way romance is potrayed, explore how it feels and just analyze it to hell and back. Basically, he wants to know the rules, to figure out how to best proceed.
Of course, he wouldn't dream of confronting you directly, only an amateur would do such a thing. Instead, he asks his friends and pretty much anyone within his general vicinity. He wants to understand romance from every angle, to hear about it from all sorts of people until he feels like he knows enough to start forming his own opinions.
His questions are all theoretical situations that begin rather innocent, innocuous. What does the hero of a romcom do to get the romantic interest? Does it follow a three act structure? And should the third act climax start with a confession or the breakup?
Overtime, they become a little more specific. To the point where his closest friends might suspect something is up, until Horropedia finds himself asking about your interests so that he can figure out the perfect gift for you. Just in case. He finds himself watching romcoms and making extensive research and charts and essays into the genres.
The funniest thing to me is that Horropedia would be extremely casual about this whole ordeal, this crush makes him extremely intrigued in the concept of romance (an oddity for someone so themed around horror), he finds himself staring at you from across the room (this is the third time he's walked into a door because of it) and so on and so forth. But he's so chill about it.
When confronted about his crush - should Blonney or anyone else decide to tease him a little by prodding - Horropedia has no problem blurting out that he has, indeed, fallen for someone. But he'll take your name to the grave, not out of shame or embarrassment but because "he doesn't want to spoil the plot, as obvious as it might be".
On the subject of Horropedia confronting his feelings and some more insight into his mentality.
I'd say there is this small possibility of Horropedia feeling disheartened if he begins to neglect his real passion for the sake of his feelings - it's that sort of guilt and shock one gets when they realize they've forgotten their wallet the moment they're meant to pay for dinner, or when they realize they've forgotten to turn off the oven.
Horror is a huge part of his life and who he is as a person - literally look at the name he's chosen for himself - and given how heavily coded he is to be neurodivergent, I can understand this aspect of him. The feeling like one must choose between two things they enjoy, and all the other things that might come with hyperfixation, both positive and negative.
This is the biggest obstacle for Horropedia when it comes to finally taking the first steps into forming a relationship with you or confessing - the irrational thought that by doing so, he's prioritizing you and romance over horror, something that he holds very dear. One of his stories gives some insight about Horropedia's relationship with horror and how it's something he shared with (and possibly was started by) his grandfather.
I feel like he'll grow a little distant, as a way to set some boundaries for himself or draw a line between his identity and his feelings for you, separate the two so that he doesn't have to feel guilty for giving one more attention than the other. Maybe he simply stops bringing up films around you, because "you're probably not that interested anyway". Masking, he's masking.
But overall, I can see Horropedia being capable enough to get out of this mindset by himself - or with a little help from someone else. Either way, he simply loops back to realizing the obvious: you two were friends, before he realized his feelings for you. You were fine with the whole Horropedia Experience. You liked him for who he was. And he liked you just as you were.
Horropedia is the one who confesses first, the one who asks you out. 100%. And it's so unnecessarily dramatic.
I DO think that Horropedia would make sure to be the one who confesses, just so he can put everything that he's learned about romance into play. And he delivers the most award worthy performance. It would be all about redirection, an unexpected reveal - his skills and animations are also all about fake outs and misleading the audience, after all.
In my head, there's this whole scene about Horropedia asking everyone to help him out confess to you, and everyone is so excited for it - but then he just asks them to fuel this slow rift that formed between you and him, to act vague, distant and mysterious should you ask Blonney or Tooth Fairy about him. Again, unorthodox and weird, but he's cooking. This is all done with the intention of forcing a confrontation between the two of you, just so he can pour his heart out right there - it's all or nothing.
Again, I want to insist that Horropedia, despite being a logical man, still makes as many aspects of his life revolve around the things that he loves and is interested in - he likes films, he likes you. And while romance is not his preferred genre, he still wants to explore all there is about it all thanks to you.
That alone should tell you how much you mean to him. Even if his methods aren't the "proper" way, you know he's putting his whole heart into this. It's all over the top, there's fake rain, etc etc. Of course, your reaction to this is up to you!
If you're mad at him for such convoluted plan, he'll sit there and allow you to scold him to your heart's content - he's used to it as one of the many troublemakers that the Foundation failed to raise as model students. If you laugh at him because of how ridiculous this guy can be sometimes, he'll laugh along, trying to get you to tell him what he could've been done better to get a third act reconciliation. And if you start crying, jump into his arms and play along then he'll be over the moon, trying every single impactful one-liner from every romcom he's watched in the past few weeks.
On the subject of Horropedia and how he acts when he's in a relationship.
Dating Horropedia is pretty easy, because you're dating your best friend. However, it is very easy to misunderstand Horropedia's way of showing affection - those who are more on the insecure side or less receptive to his subtleties may feel like there's been absolutely no shift in the dynamic, that he's treating you the same way he'd treat Tooth Fairy or Vertin.
This is far from the truth! Once Horropedia finally settles into the relationship, he grows very comfortable and allows himself to just exist around you - which isn't saying much since he doesn't mask as much around friends, but it's all about the subtle things!
I like to think Horropedia is very particular about space, as in he makes a point not to invade people's spaces if possible and he'd rather remain in his little bubble. But when it comes to you, he's very casual with physical touch. He's not as cuddly and touchy as characters like, let's say, Matilda, Jessica or Pavia, but being able to rest his head on your shoulder means a lot to him, or just have you lean on him when sitting together. This is pushed to the limit when you two pull all-nighters, binging all of your favorite movies.
He's on cloud nine when you pay attention to his ramblings and makes sure to listen when you ramble to him as well. More than often, he'll do his own little research into the topics you like, just so you have someone to properly discuss things with! Horropedia more than anyone knows what it's like to be brushed aside for being too much or too weird, to have no one listen. Despite his confidence, he has had days of feeling like he keeps on talking to a wall, so he doesn't want you to ever feel like that.
It's all about sharing interests and recommending things that you may like, keeping up with the latest events and so on and so forth, having looong discussions at night about whatever topic you two are extremely invested in.
If these discussions get a little heated and end up as arguments, expect Horropedia to insist on arguing because he's just stubborn like that - it'll take him time to realize that he might've hurt your feelings, or that he might've be hurting too, but he'll come around eventually to talk it out.
Overall, dating Horropedia would be fun because he's full of surprises and excitement, but he's also considerate in his own way.
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newrhys · 7 months ago
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im insane and a nigel defender for life so heres my theory/take on like minds
i truely think that its likely Alex was the manipulator and nigel was the victim (to a degree).
this is kinda all over the place and just my thoughts so take everything with a grain of salt im just bored
we all agree that Alex is an unreliable narrator, and when it comes to the interrogation, it would but likely that Alex changed the story for a “solid” alibi to seem at least not guilty, which is very common behavior for people, especially younger people who have committed a crime to do.
most of my reasoning for this comes from the fact that he makes sure to include the detail that *somehow* nigel got into his room in the middle of night (assumably) and put a bloody knife and playing card on his desk.
it could be very likely that he had this whole alibi, that he "missed" his date with susan was entirely made up, that he made it seem like nigel was the one who planted the knife for "for fingerprint insurance” making nigel seem like this criminal mastermind to a degree.
that and also the hand that nigel “gifted him” could have also been a cover up for (maybe) that alex could have very likely been the reason why his friend let go of the train, by messing with his hand. idk on this one tho for sure honestly, though i feel like nigel care a lot about anatomy and dissection that it would be out of character for him to sever a hand.
AND that when alex was asked “how he was sure it was his friends” he said that it wouldnt make sense otherwise (or something along those lines) which honestly is kinda strange bc i would rather rationalize that its not my dead friends hand and just some fucked up prank but maybe thats just me.
you can look into real interrogations and its not unusual for people to make up these crazy complex and wild stories to victimize themselves to seem innocent, even when the story is strange or off putting or has holes.
especially because this is a time when the attention is all on them and what better way to ganer sympathy and attention that alex could have possibly lacked in his childhood then now in the interrogation. with someone who alex could have possibly seen as some sort of mother figure, because she listened to him, and embraced him when alex talked about nigel.
“well susans body was “disected” it had to be nigel” it could have also been alex copying in the way of something that nigel would have done to again, make the evidence point at nigel.
now, this theory is a bit spotty and honestly its not great I KNOW its just my thoughts ive had that ive wanted to share, because honestly i dont have a great reason for why nigel would have invited alex over to his house if not for nigel being a little shit, but who knows, that could have also been made up, and alex really was planning on killing nigel, and just happened to show up at that time
but that being said, im also not saying nigel has never killed anyone, i am just saying alex’s series of events is a bit weird, i do think nigel has some issues, but those probably due to the obvious abuse he as suffered as a kid, and his weird interest could be a symptom of that and his curious for dead things, i wouldnt be surprised if he had witnessed death early as a child seems how it was mentioned in the show that it can result in mental illness.
which kinda leads me to my next point, at the end, when alex totally doesnt kill nigel, and nigel kills himself, alex has a sort of smile at the end, that either he was happy nigel died or that he, really *did* kill nigel and he “enjoyed” it.
to add onto this, alex never really cried when he talked about his friends dying, he cried when he talked about how it made *him* feel and how when nigel had wanted him to get “freaky” per say with susan, he was crying in the interigation because it upset *him* and it was something bad that happened to *him*. im not a professional at all and i only know a little bit about mental illnesses but in certain personaility disorders,, its not uncommon for people to have intense feelings when it comes to something that effects themselves, and apathy towards other people.
and at the very end of the show, it shows that alex clearly has a pattern of this behavior, of manipulating people in certain ways. that its not something unusual for him to do, when he asks the teacher if it’s possible to get into someones head, its likely because hes the one who, atleast thinks, he has control of nigel.
anyways thats kinda just my collection of thoughts ive had about this movie for a long time so i thought id throw them out here, do with this as you wish. dont be too mean tho i am dyslexic and not the smartest lmfao. i just like yapping. obviously i dont know everything and i likely got information wrong which like whatever.
anyways im sick and bored and wanted to yap so maybe someone actually read this
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matrixbearer2024 · 4 months ago
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Enigma [Modernity AU] (Bill/Ford)
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Bill thinks about his junior, finding him very odd but he suffices that he doesn't really seem to mind. It's interesting.
A/N: A teensy drabble that randomly came out at me which I think perfectly encapsulates the BillFord dynamic at the current time the AU is taking place in. These two make me so ill at times LOL.
A/N: I was debating on making this a comic for this but realized I would probably take a stupid long time to do it soooo, have this drabble and I'll probably post a related art piece later.
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“Take a picture, it’ll last longer.”
The words rolled off my tongue with a teasing edge, a playful barb aimed at the gaze I could feel drilling into me like a spotlight. Stanford always had this way of looking at me— like I was some kind of rare specimen under glass, something worth dissecting with those sharp eyes of his. I never understood it. I mean, come on, I’m not exactly what anyone would call a masterpiece.
And yet, his journals, notebooks, papers— they all told a different story. Pages were filled with sketches, doodles, and little studies of me. Always tucked between chemical diagrams and scribbled equations, like I was just another piece in the sea of mysteries dancing in his head. It was flattering in a weird way, like being someone’s favorite puzzle. A muse, of sorts I guess.
But that’s all we ever were. Just friends. At least, that’s what he always said. The idea never sat right with me. Friends don’t spend hours perfecting the way someone’s hair catches the light, do they? Friends don’t memorize every angle of a face like it’s the key to cracking the universe. Or maybe they do— what do I know?
Ford was a riddle like that. Six fingers wrapped around the most brilliant mind I’d ever encountered, and still, half the time I felt like he was written in a language I wasn’t fluent in. Easy enough to read on the surface, sure, but there was always something deeper. Something just out of reach.
I know him just as much as I don't.
What a puzzle you are, Stanford Pines.
"I’m not a good enough photographer."
He randomly said, pulling me out of my thoughts.
I glanced up from the spaghetti-code mess I was untangling on the monitor and found him grinning at me, that boyish, lopsided grin that somehow managed to look both smug and genuinely warm. His eyes were on me again, studying, observing, like I was worth a second, third, and fourth look. Like I was something precious.
I’ll never understand it.
Not really.
And honestly? I’m not sure I even want to.
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Featuring Bill and Ford from @gfthe-fearsome-foursome my blorbos I love them HAHAHA
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cellarspider · 1 year ago
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The Prometheus rant, Part 0/30
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I have promised a dissection of the movie Prometheus. It begins.
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So, to summarize, and give you a taste of what we're in for. 
I am a geneticist with a background in history, including some undergraduate archaeological field work. I'm deeply interested in linguistics as a hobby. Prometheus manages to be stupid in every one of these fields.
But I absolutely love H.R. Giger aesthetic, the cinematography is beautiful, and whoever did the editing was absolutely solid because the movie consistently cuts slow scenes at moments when the cuts feel just slightly jarring. It’s a very subtle way to maintain tension.
The soundtrack holds the intended tone well, the practical effects are numerous and impressive, and even though their story completely undermines it, they got an actual academic linguist to work with them on the language stuff: the guy actually has a speaking role in the film, as a virtual tutor of a reconstructed language he taught to one of the actors.
And on top of all that, there's at least one scene in the movie which is just unbelievably tense and well-executed body horror. It’s the scene everybody mentions as a highlight when they talk about the movie. So, it's a successful movie in so many ways.
But.
The writing does not back this up. There are stretches that are fine, even elevated by some of the performances. But you can feel the movie shift any time a scene has plot relevance, or a character is supposed to do their job. 
Unlike Alien, where the main cast making dumb decisions is believable because they're a bunch of space cargo haulers and maintenance people who are not supposed to have any relevant expertise for the situation they find themselves in, Prometheus' characters are supposed to be scientists, doctors, and the best a trillionaire could buy for a mission that he expected would
make first contact between technologically modern humans and a race of aliens that had visited Earth thousands of years ago
convince said aliens to give him the secret to eternal youth, because he's an old rich asshole
so when things start going wrong, I felt less like "oh no these poor bastards don't know what the fuck they're getting into" and more like "THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR CONTAMINATING AN ALIEN ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE YOU BASTARDS"
this approximately culminates in a scene where the last surviving alien on the planet is woken from two thousand years of emergency stasis, gets talked at in something very much like Proto-Indo-European by Michael Fassbender at the behest of the old rich asshole, while a woman screams in English in the background. The alien proceeds to rip Fassbender's head off and beats the old man to death with it, which is just the funniest goddamn thing
That’s the TL;DR. Yes, really.
The actual rant will start next time.  Well. Part One of the rant. This is going to be a multi-parter, because I want anyone who follows me on this journey to understand how the movie builds up into such a mess, and get some actual science out of this.
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mountainscouts · 7 months ago
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I think Gary shouldn't be just a perfect overachiever gentleman that soothes Stan's depression. I don't dislike it but I also want to see Gary not have everything in his life in order, allow him to get angry, question Mormonism (racism, homophobia), pressure him with familial expectations (don't set bad example for his siblings, must marry a woman, etc), let him cut loose and party. Conversely, Stan isn't 24/7 doom+gloom. He can be stable, proactive and self-reflecting even before dating Gary.
WHEW. OKAY THIS ASK HAS BEEN SITTING IN MY ASK BOX FOR A WHILE NOW BECAUSE ITS JUST SO. SO PERFECT. where do i even begin?
okay, i have such a specific view of gary that is essentially this, seriously. when it comes to stary, people tend to gloss over gary as a character and while i can't really blame them for doing that, considering that gary is just a guy who has in total less than 3 minutes of speaking roles in his only episode, it's something i've noticed. while i wish that more people would explore him as a character with as much depth as stan, i've kinda just accepted that it won't ever be the case. BUT because of that, i've sort of hyper focused on these types of details about gary and built on his character more in that regard, going that exact direction you went in your ask.
gary, to me, is a well-polished & put together mess when he gets older. the church is such a fascinating and important facet of his life, and the fact that his character is so inherently & quintessentially mormon is a very accurate portrayal of a lot of mormons from SLC. with that, any type of interpretation of him that deviates from typical norms and values in the church is actually asking for a lot of character dissection. i understand that a lot of people would rather not, but i WOULD. and HAVE BEEN...
gary to me is gay, and i can't really see him otherwise. he finds this out– or at least has a feeling that he might be at a younger age, so already his sexuality giving him leeway in questioning the church and its beliefs. this starts leading him to be more self-aware of his societal and familial role, juggling his own beliefs, the church's, and by extension his family's. with this baggage, i guess, i'm sure it'll extend beyond that to his sense of self. what does he want to be? what does he want to make of himself? how can he feel so trapped, but by the loving arms of his family? so much to build and unpack here!!
speaking of his family, i truly believe they're ignorant folk, conservative, and traditional (inadvertently confirmed by how many children they have and how they all interact with eachother- even if that's just a joke, it proves my point that the harrisons are a decent portrayal of mormon families yet again). gary, being the middle child and if one wanted to write him as "the special one", makes for these dilemmas even more interesting honestly. from setting a good precedent for his siblings, following the path of his older ones, cramming extra-curricular activities as a means to both please his parents and even distract himself from his issues, to having to attend church meetings— it all piles up, all while his own contradictions are fed more and more at the incessant exposure of daily life.
the reason why he's considered a polished mess is because he's your typical "looks like he has everything under control, actually under insane amounts of stress" character. i firmly believe that the harrisons have no ill-will, but i think the way that they raised their children falls strongly on the line of emotional neglect. their children were never taught any life lessons that'd help actually help them like- you know, regulating emotions. i've mentioned this in a previous post (and also elaborated on gary showing anger specifically) but i personally believe that while gary is a kind, and generous person to his core, there is an incredible amount of repression deep within him— a product of being raised with many, "boys dont cry"s, "love thy neighbor"s, and "forgive and forget"s. kindness specifically is actually an incredibly important aspect to mormonism, as it's a key part of the lifelong and ever present journey to celestial afterlife. but that's the thing: objectively speaking– this is just a way of control.
so when one wants to break free from this way of thinking, to lose this control, to break away from all they've known— their very livelihood— it's not going to come in the form of an overnight epiphany. in gary's case, considering how tight he is with his family versus his budding progressive views and drive to have more free reign over his self, it's going to be one hell of a struggle.
to touch on your point of him not getting everything he wants, i think that's another fundamental reason why he would question his standing in the church as well— depending on What he doesn't get. perhaps he doesn't want to serve his mission, but does so anyways. or maybe he simply had a bad day, but he can't allow himself to get upset, convincing himself that "things could be worse" as a way to make himself feel better, barring himself from healthily expressing his feelings. repeatedly saying "its okay" is going to be his downfall lol
and, i too would love to see him cut loose and party eventually- without a second thought that he'd be disappointing anyone.
okay now for stan. oh yeah that guy— no i'm just kidding, i'm also actually very picky about stan as well. :P most of your points about him align perfectly with mine. i don't like it when people woobify him to a point where his only/a major part of his character is his pessimism and depression, and while they are a part of him, it seems to be a big theme when people talk about stary. i definitely love the whole "i can fix him" thing gary has with him (because of gary's primordial urge to "fix" things and be persistent until he can't anymore) but that's definitely not all that they are!! (also gary's initial thought of "fixing" stan would already be faulty from the get-go anyways- but he will learn)
with stan, i think people tend to make him already pretty "helpless" in general fandom, and while he has shown to be more vulnerable than his peers, hes still pretty resilient. i do think that he would need a little bit of a push when it comes to his mental health, but that's only because he's found a way to cope with these issues- none of which are truly healthy. he's moreso content with being in a stalemate with himself and while he does wish he could do more, it takes a lot out of him to get out his more personal comfort zones.
kinda gives him another reason as to why him and gary are narrative foils, i just realized :P!!
but yeah!! i really loved this ask, and i probably really should indulge more in this aspect of gary >_<. its something i truly think about, and those who are close to me DEFINITELY know this! thank you for the ask and sorry it took so dang long haha. also thank you to those who read this behemoth, genuinely didnt expect to yap this much
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what do you think of your classmates sirius : D ?
JIU ( @severedscales ): He’s fascinating, in a way. So studious, so monotonous. He seems to act strange in front of that Kioku girl. I think it’s a little bit funny how we almost wear our hair similarly. Would it be weird if I said I wanted to dissect him?
KIOKU (same as above): Very forgetful. I want to know why… but I can’t just go up to someone and ask, “Why is your memory horrible?” She’s so friendly. She reminds me of sunflowers. I might give her one some day.
NENE: Her brightness is very blinding, it’s a little bit annoying. She’s always writing letters. Either that, or she’s pining over some girl like a loser. I deliver her work sometimes. I try not to think about her, really.
XAEL: He doesn’t like me. It’s fun to mess with him.
NUMA: Arguably one of the most interesting in ANAKT Garden. He has such a warm feeling about him… it’s not overwhelming, or bad. He’s always so nice. He has so much energy, he loves sports, but he’s not a sore loser. He’s even willing to teach others how to play with him. I worry for him sometimes when I notice he spends too long in the bathroom and comes out looking rather pale. I see it normally happens right after lunch, if he eats. He usually skips it. It’s so odd to me how much energy he has even if I almost never see him eat. I want to know everything about him.
ZERO ( @myworld-collapsing ): Zero is like a shadow. I think their name is fitting. I don’t really see Zero, but I feel him around me. He’s obsessed with me. I don’t mind it, though. I think it’s cute. I like seeing his reactions.
ASAHI (same as above): I don’t believe in matchmaking. I often find myself annoyed with her for a reason I can’t describe.
DANTE ( @imperfectnothing ): I like him. He’s very helpful to me. I appreciate the company he brings. Dante himself doesn’t scare me, but… There’s something about the way he makes me feel. It’s different. That’s what’s scary. I don’t want to hurt him for loving me. I don’t know exactly what that means. I might tell him when I know what this feeling is.
MILL ( @waterydream ): Mill is like me. Mill and I share a lot of the same attributes. I don’t have to “pretend” with Mill. He told me I didn’t have to. That neither of us have to. But still, I wouldn’t call them a friend. Sometimes Mill does say things that seem a little bit targeted, though I wouldn’t call it annoying. I’d say we’re acquaintances at most.
TOKI ( @eventseraphim ): What a freak. It’s like he saw through my facade the moment we met. He likes bullying me as if it’s a joke. It doesn’t matter, though. He makes for an interesting friend. I will say that he is quite lucky I didn’t come to ANAKT for new test subjects…
INNAMORATI ( @alien-til-i-stage ): Very friendly. I don’t like it when he messes with me. I don’t want to show it and hurt his feelings, he seems fragile.
MACBETH (same as above): “To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” … Sorry. He’s named after a show I’ve read before and enjoyed, that’s all. I like Shakespeare. It’s interesting to me how humans used to talk… I think Macbeth is very well named. I wonder if he’s read the play…
YUME ( @sotogalmo ): So odd. I want to take Yume apart to see how what makes him tick. Is that so wrong?
YVONNE ( @aakaneeee ): Hm. She reminds me of vines. To be loved by her is to be trapped in a thorny embrace for all eternity…
ELIANA (same as above): I don’t know why Nene finds her interesting. Nene has such odd tastes…  At least Eliana is pretty.
YAEL ( @lookatmysillies ): He’s such an enabler. He doesn’t know what he’s doing to me, and I’d like to keep it that way. He doesn’t need to know anything I don’t need to tell him.
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thedawningofthehour · 7 months ago
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I stumbled upon this post again
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Fai, please stop coming out with these kind of scenarios, they are depressing!!! And of the kind that I eat up!!!!
I would like to know more!
Many- if not all- leo's Sep AU's with Draxum have Draxum being abusive to varying degrees, that it would be interesting to see one with a Draxum who at least tries to love his son and be a good father and still fails.
Leo would be his usual self, wich annoy Draxum, and causes self estem issues, but that's okay, in the end they only have each other and Leo doesn't really have competition, until he does, because his Long Lost missing Brothers show up and it turns out Draxum likes them more, which would be much more mess up because this Leo doesn't really have connections outside of Draxum. It all be complicated and 'll Will eat it with fries.
I mean, I've never really thought out how he'd be raising each of the boys alone, really just all together or just with Donnie. Donnie, I feel like is such a perfect parallel to Draxum that it just makes sense for a separated AU Draxum to get Donnie in the divorce. Like, Splinter and Big Mama, you could make an argument that pairing them up with any of the other three would fit in a unique and interesting way, but Draxum was just meant to have Donnie. (also I love how all separated AUs are like "hokay, obviously three of the parents are Draxum, Big Mama, and Splinter, and the fourth is...fuck, I dunno, the Foot? Hueso?") Not that I don't like other separated AUs where Donnie is raised by someone else, (Little Prince my beloved) but Donatello Draxum is just poetic.
But, going along this line of thinking, with the 'doth Draxum actually raises Galois from a hatchling' fantasy set of events except it's not Donnie he ended up with but another turtle...hmm.
(I'm going to use Donnie and Galois interchangeably for this post deal with it)
Well, for starters, he'd be less protective over the other boys than he is with Gale right now. (honestly, he'd be less protective of Galois too if he'd raised him for sixteen years, but that's for another post) He still would be overprotective, and he'd do the same isolating thing with any of the other boys and hide their existence until he was ready to move forward with his domination plans. Mikey, he would still be more protective of, considering his innate mystical ability surpassing his potential as the warrior he was designed as. Not to the same extent as Donnie though, since most of Mikey's abilities would still require him to be present on the battlefield, verses Donnie who could fulfill his usefulness 100% from an underground bunker.
Raph and Leo, however, were made for war and their greatest talents still lie in combat. If he is to make use of them then there's no way of getting around it, they'll end up on the front lines at some point. Draxum would have to train them to be able to survive that, to fulfill the purposes they were made for-and he would have to steel himself for the very, very real possibility that they may die.
(That's kind of present in his current relationship with Raph, he's aware that this might end with Raph dying from a bullet meant for Gale. And if Raph betrays Draxum, or he's forced to choose between Raph and Galois, he needs to be able to sacrifice Raph without hesitation. He really doesn't want to start seeing Raph as his son and complicate matters-the revolution needs Galois more than it needs Raph or even Draxum, there can be no room for choice between them)
Another thing is that Draxum and Donnie have similar interests, so they'd naturally have a stronger friendship than the other three anyway. He'd still find things to bond over with Mikey and Raph, they're both pretty versatile and easy to get along with. With Leo? Maybe history? Medicine? Like, yes he could impart upon Leo all his medical knowledge, (oh my god, so many dissections would take place in that house) but I feel like Leo's joking nature would make Draxum feel like Leo isn't giving the subject the attention it deserves and it would always end in a screaming match. Not to mention Leo's sense of humor is exactly what irritates Draxum's ego most efficiently.
And then there's the areas Leo actually excels at verses his brothers, namely 1) his charisma and leadership skills, and 2) his strategic mind.
Leo is smart. Doth Draxum is learning to his great displeasure how smart, but a Draxum who raised Leo from birth would know he's smart. And it's not the simple fact that his child can be smarter than The Great Baron Draxum that bothers him, no. Galois is smarter than him in many ways, and Draxum delights in that. He loves having someone he can intellectually spar with, whose arguments actually pose a challenge, and he feels immense pride that his creation is so brilliant he's outpacing his creator.
It wouldn't be the same for Leo. Because while Leo absolutely could outsmart Draxum, (or is getting smart enough that he's getting close) it's in a way he absolutely doesn't understand. When Donnie wins an argument Draxum is practically giddy over it, because what Donnie's saying or doing makes sense. Yes, Draxum didn't think of it first, but now that's he laid out the situation this way he can totally see what he's talking about and wow his son's brilliance takes his breath away, he can't believe this is the same turtle he fed with a bottle and rocked to sleep after a nightmare-who, less than two decades ago, bit his hand, cried, and then bit his other hand to see if that one hurt too.
Leo's brain does not work the same way. When he outsmarts Draxum, he does it in such a convoluted, weird-ass way that Draxum is like "???!!!!!!!?? How????!!!" And this infuriates him. Baron Draxum is one of the world's greatest minds. He's hundreds of years old. He will not be bamboozled by his teenage son working off the seat of his pants!
And it just frustrates him immensely, that Leo can be so smart in a way Draxum absolutely cannot follow. He can accept that he's perceptive and good at talking to people, yes, Draxum knows his social skills are lacking and he's accepted that there's a piece of the puzzle there that most people have and he just lacks-but how in the world can Leo out-strategize him?
Oh yeah, there would absolutely be self-esteem issues when Draxum is mooning over how talented his other sons are, when he gets along with Leo's brothers so much easier than he does with the kid he's raised for over a decade. And Drax probably wouldn't realize it until Huginn and Muninn pointed it out or Leo had a breakdown in front of him. But he would make a point to tell Leo-in his own awkward, roundabout way-how talented he truly was, and he's sorry that he's never been able to understand him.
And since I know you like my bird, an Angel update: along with having to deal with this molt, (he looks scruffy, the casing his feathers have when they come in is super hot and itchy, and he's hungry and tired all the time because growing a bird's worth of feathers is a lot of work!) my sister was home sick yesterday. His sleeping cage is in her bedroom, but she was long asleep by the time he goes to bed. So we just locked him in his downstairs cage, which he pretty much just uses as a playground/eating area. He did a few confused peeps, but then he settled down and went to bed-a very good bird! He was thanked for his compliance and got extra pets today, and was so excited to get his room back. He had to do a full inspection of his cage first, but he's happily snoozing away now. We're very proud of him for not being a dick about it.
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buckybarnesss · 2 years ago
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“Scott’s awareness of the Stiles and Derek thing is interesting to dissect” hi yes please do!
I find him a bit hard to read when it comes to this tbh. Scott seems aware that Something is going on throughout season 3. He always seems shocked to realize that they get along better, even though Scott is usually faster at trusting people than Stiles. (I wouldn’t be surprised if Derek/Scott’s issues early on are the source of this bewilderment.)
I genuinely can’t tell if/when Scott might have realized that their bond was more than platonic. Like he has so much “right in front of my salad?” energy that he must have noticed Stiles’s attraction at the very least, right? Was it Derek’s leaving in the s4 finale that made Scott realize that Stiles’s feelings were actually romantic? He seems very aware in s5 that Derek is a Sore Spot for Stiles.
Jeffrey-boy seems to have taken the whole “show, don’t tell” thing a little too literally here.
the thing about scott is he's really, really good at denial. especially self-denial. combining his world class levels of denial he also has multiple hang up about derek that he has a hard time letting go of and he has a specific way he perceives stiles (which is part of the mess in s5).
like he sees but he's also stuffing his fingers in his ears about it because derek and stiles being derek-n-stiles doesn't line up with what he expects from either of them.
scott also has the dubious privilege of being there from the beginning. it was just the three of them at the start of this whole fiasco.
there's hints but scott doesn't really get to see the big stiles and derek development in season 1so while he seems to kind of pick up on stiles possibly being attracted to derek because i mean look at this.
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he's mostly seeing stiles being annoyed and angry but he isn't necessarily reading the deeper reasons for it because he's not privy to it.
than season 3 happens.
things shift in s3 when he realizes that he and stiles are not at all on the same page about derek. stiles has been spending time with derek outside of his knowledge for months and they're friendly.
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and than his reaction to derek and stiles messing around in the next episode. peter's entirely unsurprised and amused by this which just hints at stiles getting derek to be playful isn't new to him but for scott this is Huge. This is world altering for scott.
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stiles becoming friendly with derek is one of the reasons scott's perception and trust of derek begins to shift into moving past his anger and resentment that was present in s1 and 2.
i know people say scott doesn't trust stiles and that's a whole thing to unpack and i'd have to rewatch 5a to parse it entirely but scott does trust stiles. while stiles is often right he also as often doesn't have the proof to back up his intuition in the moment.
scott is also way more scared that stiles isn't himself after the nogitune. he can see stiles spiraling and after derek leaves stiles becomes even more paranoid and irritable. almost as if stiles lost an anchor. which scott just went through himself with allison's death.
at the end of s4 this look is layered
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he's terrified of losing stiles the same way stiles is afraid of losing him. it creates a weird feedback loop where that very thing happens because of their fears are exploited by theo. stiles and scott are so scared to lose each other and depend on seeing each other a particular way because of the roles they've assigned themselves they don't communicate properly.
stiles and scott are incredibly dysfunctional kids from different kinds of broken homes. it's important to remember that when dissecting their friendship.
the benefit of a doubt scene in season 5 says scott fucking noticed because his starting overture at trying to convince stiles about giving theo the benefit of a doubt is derek.
(theo is a hybrid peter-derek which is funny but he's also a dark mirror of stiles in a lot of ways. it's partly why scott is drawn to him.)
it's a calculated move on scott's part to bring up derek to appeal to stiles's emotions over his logic but he also is aware that he needs to tread fucking lightly here. the subject of derek is a double edged sword.
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also scott witnessed derek's whole ass everything in 3B even if he was distracted. he knew derek would help look for stiles and protect him without a question.
i think scott figured out there was something going on in 3A and by 5A he knew it was something stiles was incredibly fucked up over but he wasn't the one that could fix it.
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turtonsteroids · 5 months ago
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ENNEAD S2 SPOILERS
Back at it again, hardcore hating on Set x Horus
I just can't enjoy it, I can't. I don't care if it was consensual in the latest chapters, the dynamic was messed up from the start. At the very least, it's interesting in terms of story writing because the author is writing this from a perspective of "This is cute and this is okay, it's a hurt/comfort type of story!" but I'm reading it from the perspective of "This is a well written narrative of what daddy issues can do to a guy" so I'm reading it as a tragedy, I'm reading it as an unhappy ending but it's being presented otherwise, so it just adds another layer onto the process of dissecting this.
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blood-starved-beast · 1 year ago
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I do not ship it but I admit upon learning that the whole "Gehrman being a creep" is a translation fumble made let out a sigh in relief. Cause honestly, "old guy creeping on younger student/girl" is very much overdone and well, out of all the Fucked Up things Bloodborne has done at least this bullet was dodged.
I do think what we actually get then, regarding Maria and Gehrman is a thousand times more interesting. Instead of being some old creeper, what actually is something of a potentially toxic one-sided co-dependent mentor/student relationship. Because while it isn't creepy it doesn't mean it has to be healthy. And ngl, making a facsimile doll of your suicided student does mean you care a lot about the student in question, even to an unhealthy degree.
I do not think, however, that this is necessarily a surrogate parental relationship. I've mentioned it before, that I headcanon that Maria's cadaver became the object of Gehrman's obsession - that is, he dissected it and from those notes he created the Doll, and from those notes the Church found the way to deal with the "Cainhurst problem." Gehrman wanted to know why he went wrong with Maria as much as trying to make a memorial of her, maybe one that removed the faults that led to Maria's demise, one befitting the cultural standards of the time - what a typical Cainhurst girl should act like. That was unsatisfactory though, and the Doll was tossed aside cause no matter what, that "good girl" was never the giant mess that is Maria.
Regardless, I do think there is a sense of possession in that, an overreach in Gehrman's part. Grind her bones down, save a piece of her femur, but still you are violating her corpse just like you did Kos, how does it feel Maria to become the object of your torment?? And she's still very much dead.
I do think the fandom should focus more on the toxic part of their relationship. I believe there were likely some boundaries crossed with them - not romantic - but something definitely wrong cause there's no way a relationship between two messed up killers is anything but wrong.
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lucky1013 · 4 months ago
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Matching Bracelets:  Lovejoy Friendships
2024 is coming to a close; thank your deity of choice. 
 There’s a lot of talk about friendships that were lost this year.  It’s painful to hear and, I would argue, self-centered and tasteless to voice.  (Ok, ok, dropping it.) But there’s another thing worth celebrating that emerged from this horrible test.  We learned there are friends who have your back in the worst of times. There are friends who have the courage to weather storms. There are new friends, kindred spirits, who find each other in chaos because they speak the same language. Birds among the sheep. 
The fact that the members of Lovejoy stood by Will meant so much.  We saw them demonstrate real friendship, unconditional support, at a time when no one seemed to have the balls to stand up for what is right. It’s not about condoning or condemning actions, (you dipshits,) it’s about friendship, loyalty, and human compassion. These boys could have cut and run but they chose to stay. This is why they own our hearts. Hats off. o7
On the fan side, everyone tied themselves in knots last Spring arguing with the digital lynch mob. We typed incessantly to defend our beliefs and maybe, just maybe, pull some people over.  We railed against the misinformation and painfully pointless dissections of fact. They misunderstood everything we said.  They reduced Will to a couple of ill-fitting labels. Their stamina for finding and smothering any signs of support, even still, is pretty staggering. I apologize for rehashing this. But I have a point. 
I hate to talk about pain. Especially our pain, because we aren’t the targets here. But it’s an important bridge here so try to stomach it. 
There’s been a three-part agony for fans. It’s both past and persistent. First, and most obviously, it was so painful to know what Will must be feeling.  That’s woefully understated.  It’s not about infatuation or parasocial nonsense (really sick of that one) – it’s just empathy, pure and simple.  Second, fans were mourning their losses.  The fan community (and associated excitement and joy) just sublimated.  Third, we felt (and still feel) so fucking helpless.  We know someone is suffering, we understand it, and can’t do a goddamn thing to help. 
We found new friends. Unexpected, trauma-bonded, amazing new friends. Some close friends, some just familiar personalities. We know each other by name or at least by the alts we use to keep out employers from finding us. We know who will keep everyone’s spirits up and pull us back to the center when things get sideways (fans know who I mean). We know is best at smacking down bullshit. We know who the freaks are. We know who sweethearts and the jokers are. We know the writers, artists, and poets who just need some way to pull these feelings out of their chests.  We are a very motley crew with a broad range of backgrounds, ages, and interests, but we’re all connected by these basic things – human kindness, belief in Will as a person, love for Lovejoy. 
 Let me tell you my Lovejoy friend story. I’d love to hear yours. 
I never used  social media before this.  (No I’m not from Mars, there’s a reason that is definitely noone’s business.) I had a Twitter account with zero posts and hopped into “Wilburtwt” one day, needing to understand this mess and needing to express myself.  I did some searches and found LVJYbandNEWS and her Cards for Concern effort.  I wrote some painfully sappy fanmail to pull the feels out of my chest and mailed it off. 
Over the next few weeks, some interesting people stood out from the rest – wise, smart, funny, and adult (no shade to the kids, love you all too).   We bonded over the helplessness.  We just wanted to DO something to make things better. We wanted to take action and find ways to move the needle. We started an offline chat to problem solve. We’ve since worked together on several projects, trying to raise fan engagement, steer the conversation, and clean up websites.  There are now eight of us, five adults and three teenagers. (Maybe ONE DAY they will let us help.)  
We have Zoom happy hours and shared Google docs.  We ask for each other’s advice.  We type back and forth everyday over big and little things, mostly just enjoying being passionate fans.  L: heart and fan-herder; A: badass; S: just effing cool; J: smacks down the dumbshits; H: endless enthusiasm for a not-Will bandmate; V and E: creatives; [me: rants and types essays and poems] .
 When Lovejoy announced New York, we bought plane tickets, booked hotel rooms, and broke it to our families that we were skipping Thanksgiving.  My unindoctrinated friends thought I was nuts when I said I was going to Brooklyn with internet people I had never met, planning to stand in the cold all day just to be close to some indie band. But it's not ‘some indie band' – it’s LOVEJOY.  And they're not just ‘internet people’ – they’re my FRIENDS.  
The line experience was so much fun. I met so many cool people, so different but all connected, half with familiar usernames.  I can tell you with certainty that I don’t care (that much) about being in front, but I can't wait until I get to hang out with these jokers in line again. (But maybe not so early? Can we maybe agree as a fandom to adjust? It's a bit nuts.)  
LOVEJOY, Thanks for being good friends to each other.  The real kind.  And thanks for the friendships we’ve had the privilege of making around you. 
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