#Anti Stolas

[pagonmoon]

To the people who suffered from getting cheated on, or one of your parents have cheated...

..I'm really sorry you have to watch that terrible video, 'Sinsmas'...

You all are validated to be angry and not forgive your parent/partner, none of you are bad guys for feeling the way you do.

You all deserved better.

[newbtheveryawesomeandkindanewby]

[trashogram]

Why do we never acknowledge how Stolas has never spoken to Loona or asked about Loona despite him apparently “being in love with Blitzø” and “valuing his role as a father to Octavia”?

You’d think that Stolas would take an interest in the biggest surface-level commonality that he has with the man he’s supposedly in love with. You’d think that Stolas would try to bond with Blitzø, his first ever friend and the love of his life, over being Dads to two young and troubled women. You’d think that Stolas would try to ingratiate himself to his lover’s only child and vice versa to fashion a family unit that Stolas supposedly wishes he could have with Blitzø and which Blitzø fantasizes about in the Season 2 finale.

But no I guess it’s not as important as Stolas beating the crap out of Andrealphus (when he couldn’t even throw a water bottle in S2E2) >_>

[spopsalt]

Sarcastic Chorus.. SARCASTIC CHORUS!? A-are you actually....not defending your favorite abuser owl man-? I-is this...character development?

[exhelluvafan]

Unpopular opinion, but Blitz and verosika still have more chemistry together than stolitz

(Also, verosika's hotter and YES. This is coming from a gay guy.)

To think that even a gay guy like yourself can notice that Blitz has better chemistry with his ex Verosika rather than the owl rapist, thing that Viv has worked so hard to gaslight her audience into believing that Blitz and Stolas actually have chemistry, when the "chemistry" is nonexistent at all.

But yeah, I do agree with you, Anon, Blitzika (Blitz x Verosika) sounds more plausible than Stolitz by miles.

[catmeow06]

Starlight glimmer 🤝 stolas

Literally started off as villains but for whatever some reason they get a redemption arc and the shows completely forgets the messed up shit they did to the main character

[redjoey1992]

I found this video and what's funny is that they mentioned how Helluva Boss, despite the poor fanfic levels of writing, was always going to be a romantic comedy, when in reality, Helluva Boss wasn't going to be a workplace comedy set in Hell.

[impperfectcritiques]

tw: depression

I’m spit balling here but I would like to hear your thoughts on this:

alright, I genuinely don’t care that much for Stolas but one of the few things that genuinely irritates me when it comes to the character is how the show shows us that he “has depression/depressive moments”. No, he does not. People could argue that other episodes before Sinsmas he had his medicine therefore didn’t exhibit the traits (even though some antidepressants can show symptoms like nausea, weight gain, etc), the only thing we see of “non medicated” Stolas is sadness. DEPRESSION IS NOT JUST SADNESS. I myself don’t have depression but I have family members who do have it. I’ve seen how depressed people were like at a VERY YOUNG AGE, they are not just sad, they can be extremely tired, loss of emotion, dread, feeling of worthlessness, and sometimes can lead to addiction. I find it more frustrating that the writers coughVivcough thought that depression is just a sympathy point for people to feel bad for Stolas. At best we don’t see enough of Stolas feeling dread, or overconsumption of alcohol. I’m not even saying Stolas should show suicidal ideation, I’m just saying SHOW MORE THAN JUST SADNESS, DRINK ALCOHOL AND TAKE PILLS. The first thing I think of when establishing a character with depression is having them in bed and having a caretaker/friend try talking to them or having a schedule therapy. I’m not a writer but neither is Viv so. It just really makes me feel like the writer really doesn’t know what depression is and is just using it as a brownie point or it was an afterthought.

YEA. I have chronic depression due to just a bad roll on DNA and a shitty childhood.

Show stolas struggling more to do things to get that release of endorphins, show him struggling to be present.

Also the "happy pills" or whatever piss me off... It's a similar issue with Lucifer and his depiction of depression, which is treated more like a joke.

Like if stolas was seen constantly smoking or smth to the point its extremely noticable that would work.

Also drinking alcohol while on antidepressants FUCKS YOU UP, like not just emotionally, but like,,,, all over, its really unsafe and actually dulls the affect of alcohol, from my own experience.

I think it would make a lot of sense for stolas to have mental issues in his situation, and I think it could of been used to show how different people react to being put in the same situation! **cough cough** Stella...

[hbr33write]

i’m so glad that i share my hate for stolas with people of the critical community, man, not only the stolas hate, we share opinions on the show. i love you guys /p

[antivivziepopparade]

Holy shit, i didn't think about this before but i saw your video that called stolas a "jimmy from mouthwashing bird" at the end and- YEAH HE LITERALLY IS JUST A FURRY BIRD DEMON VERSION OF JIMMY. Like, dude tries to claim he's getting better and taking responsibility but then proceeds to either whine, lie, or make things worse, even down to s/a'ing someone he keeps claiming to care about. Stolas is literally just jimmy from mouthwashing but if the narrative favored him instead of the actual victims.

YESSSSS glad that im not the only one who noticed.

FUCK Jimmy and FUCK Stolas.

[demiaroacejadeharley]

It's sad to know that there are people on the internet hating on a fictional minor for wanting to distance herself from her neglectful cheating dad. And what's even sadder is seeing those same people blaming her mother for manipulating her, even those that said minor made that choice on her own.

I realize that Helluva Boss will probably never go into detail about Stella and Octavia's relationship prior to Stolas's affair. We don't know if Stella's pregnancy to Octavia was planned, and we don't know how Stella treated Octavia when Octavia was a child. We can't forget the fact that the marriage between Stolas and Stella was arranged. The arranged marriage was planned when both adults were children, but we never got to see Stella and Stolas meeting for the first time. We don't know how Stella acted when she met Stolas for the first time. Knowing the current direction of Helluva Boss, we probably will never see any flashback scenes of Stella and Stolas meeting each other, the wedding, and maybe Octavia's birth and a more detailed walk through Octavia's childhood.

Vivziepop wants to push the narrative of Stella being an evil person. At the same time, Stella doesn't have a well thought out backstory. There's very little information about Stella besides what the show gave us. And she will possibly never get a proper backstory, knowing the way Viv treats her female characters, both good or bad, despite Viv being a woman herself.

I'm surprised that Helluva Boss was able to get two (and now three) seasons after the initial plot of the show being railroad by Stolas and Blitzo's toxic "relationship". The plot went from focusing on a mercenary group trying to make a living off of killing humans to a toxic fujoshi nightmare. Season three comes out in 2026 (probably because Vivziepop can work on season 2 of Hazbin Hotel) and would be surprised that this show (and Hazbin) makes it after two or three seasons.

[pompompoofy]

"I know you hate (insert fictional character), but omg, you talk about this character as if they're real-" AND YOU TALK ABOUT THAT THE CHARACTER THAT YOU LOVE AS IF THEY'RE REAL TOO BITCH. LET ME LOATHE IN PEACE

[carto0ncritter]

One thing I noticed in this shitshow of an episode is how fucking ungrateful Stolas was for everything Blitzø did for him since he came to his place.

Him being a spoiled rich white asshole:

I hate his facial expressions so much, you have no idea

I can guarantee you care about these 'nice things' more than you care about your daughter btw

Oh, we also have, let's see here...

*insert the entire montage of Blitzø (Stolas' victim) trying to cheer his abuser up since he's now in love with him thanks to good ol' Stockholm Syndrome*

Seeing that cigarette reminds me of when Stolas uh... *checks notes* called Blitz an 'itty bitty imp (racist)' despite him clearly hating it, grabbed his cheek and used his horn to put out his cigarette (not to mention Blitzø's severe trauma being related to fucking fire)

Okay so anyway, I think Stolas said "Oh, when have you ever asked" bc Blitzø stole from him and his family 25 years ago. correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it manipulative af to bring up smth that happened that long ago, also it's totally unrelated to the current situation. I swear it's like a grown ass man saying to another "Oh I still hate you because, uhm, remember that one time in 3rd grade when you stole my pencil..."

So... if Stolas still holds this against Blitzø, let me ask: why was he ever "in love" with him in the first place? Answer? He wasn't. Stolas only used this imp for his sexual fantasies and for him to get to experience his "fairytale romance"

P.S. Imps are a race his privileged ass has always been racist towards and he hasn't ever attempted to, uh... try to understand them better? Understand how they live? I mean if you truly cared about your "boyfriend," Stolas, you'd have put in SOME effort to change your mindset/behavior and WOULDN'T HAVE EVER SEXUALLY COERCED HIM

He also r@p*d you blitz

And no he didn't do much, he's powerful af. Using those powers isn't rocket science heck he turned an imp to stone in s1 he can protect himself but is apparently the "bottom" in the stolitz "relationship". Also no, him leaving Octavia clearly isn't a huge deal to Stolas otherwise he'd have fought to earn her forgiveness and not just sulk like a wimpy loser. YOU ARE NOT ONLY A GROWN MAN STOLAS, BUT A FATHER. At least you were supposed to be

So was not thinking about your daughter until you lost everything, apparently

AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT??? WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A TRANSACTION AGAIN

Alright I'm signing off until the next season drops, if that ever happens

This episode sucked, but kudos to our girl Via who was smart enough to see through her "father's" bs 👏

ALSO HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO THE CRITICAL COMMUNITY (and to non-toxic stans too)!

[exhelluvafan]

Excuse me, I don’t think this is a good idea. Yeah I know you’re mad at the message you were sent but stuff like this just adds fuel to the fire. I think it’s best that we move on. This is coming from someone who’s critical aswell.

I took it with humor after cooling down from my initial feelings, and I wasn't exactly intending on adding "fuel" to the "fire", as I see this and the suggestions in that post as more of an artistic exercise than anything else.

I actually wrote the post as a joke and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously or too personally, apologies if it came across like that though.

And I already moved on, I'm just eager to dunk on a fictional character that I heavily hate, if I get more whining from Stolas / Stolitz fans, well, I don't give a fuck, nothing's stopping me from drawing the suggestions other than my procrastinating habits lmao

What I'm trying to say is that, while it's understandable to be concerned about this situation, I'm not even taking it seriously, if anything, I'm only taking it to poke fun, nothing else.

[lesbian-strider]

Merry Christmas hellaverse critical nation, I said what I said