#Abel the Rebel Angel

[askdwayneelliot]

The time has finally come...the wait is finally over and this is my reward. I got the commission from the-vampire-inside-me of Dwayne Elliot, the black devil himself meets the most popular and amazed character himself, Abel the Rebel Angel. You guys may and/or may not have any idea how much this means to me and how long i have wanted this. The-vampire-inside-me and her character is the main reason why I made a tumblr account, became an artist, and join the batim community. Without her and Abel I never wouldn't come this far and meet you guys. Thank you Twisted and everybody else for the inspiration and motivation for me to draw and what it means to be creative in my own way. If you all wanna remember her and want to see her amazing artwork. https://bsky.app/profile/nosferamtu88.bsky.social

[betterthanyalls]

Abel The Rebel Angel x Reader

"It's only November!"

Day 2! I hope you like this one, I tried to add romance but not too much at the same time yk? Enjoy!💕💕

Published: 12-3-2023

Words: 543

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Y/n was walking through a mall in her home city. She wasn’t shopping for anything in particular, just browsing through the sections. 

It was only November 5th, and the whole mall was decorated for Christmas. 

After walking for a bit, Y/n stopped in a local family owned store. It was decked out with festive decor. Ornaments glistened from the front windows, and Christmas music sang from the speakers.

As she was looking around, she didn’t notice a toon walking towards her, busy looking at his phone. When Y/n looked up, it was too late; the human and the toon bumped into each other, causing them both to take a few steps back.

“I am so sorry! I didn’t mean to bump into you!” Y/n panicked, trying to make sure the toon was alright. 

“First it’s Christmas in November; now I get hit by some daydreaming idiot.” She heard him grumble as he steadied himself.

Y/n leaned back, giving him an offended look. 

"Well, excuse me, Mr. Grinch!” Y/n glared at him with a sassy tone.

Abel looked at her and into her eyes, staring into her soul with his pie cut eyes. Unexpectedly to Y/n, he let out a small chuckle.

She didn’t notice it before, but she did now; the toon had major wings on his back. His head had a tilted halo hanging above it, and he was in a nice suit. The toon's hair was well kept as well. All in all, he seemed to care for his appearance, and she wouldn’t lie if she had to admit that he was pretty attractive. But that doesn’t automatically mean she’s head over heels—no,  not at all.

“What?” Y/n frowned.

“You have weird insults.” The toon smiled.

“Well ok then, why not tell me some of your ‘oh so great’ insults?” Y/n mocked, putting her hands on her hips.

“First off, don’t call someone a Grinch-” The toon began before being cut off by Y/n.

“It’s true though! You were acting like The Grinch.” She states matter-of-factly.

He just deadpanned.

The two of them talked for a long time, sometimes bantering or playfully arguing. They eventually learned each other's names. 

~~Time skip~~

It had been a year since the two met, and now they’re inseparable. 

Currently, the two were simply lounging around on Y/n’s couch. Y/n was lying down, her legs laying on top of Abel’s lap. Abel was sitting up, scrolling through channels on Y/n’s TV. 

He tried to ignore how pretty she looked right now; they were just friends after all. Nothing more. 

As Abel scrolled through the channels, he stopped on an interesting one. It was going on about how electric cars are made. 

“We’ll be right back after this short break.” The channel spoke. As the screen of the TV faded to black, it was replaced with blaring Mariah Carey and red and green lights. 

“It is November! Why are there Christmas commercials out?!" Abel shouted at the TV.

Y/n couldn’t help but burst out laughing at his anger.

He looked over to her, a smirk flashed over his features. Shoving her off of him and the couch, Abel couldn’t help but laugh too.

[msfantasy3]

Deprevity’s void of lullaby - Chapter 1 - MsFantasy3 - Bendy and the Ink Machine [Archive of Our Own]

[crabbypalsart]

Well, here's a redraw of a redraw and just in time for Throwback Thursday I guess X•D

If you remember Abel the Rebel Angel, you are certified for a veteran's discount in the BATIM fandom 😂 Now, It would be wise for him to step out of the way before Bits hits one of her world famous home-runs X•D

I miss the-vampire-inside-me, I hope she is doing alright :•)

[askaxelthefallenangel]

For a long time, I wanted to redraw this one. It's because I think it looks ugly today. My friend (@the_vampire_inside_me no longer on here) and @weretoons, I hope y'all see this.

This is kinda late but, Axel baked some cookies for all and wanted to share.

Abel: Wow Axel, these cookies are really good.

Axel: Thanks Abel.

Abel by @the-vampire-inside-me

Bucky by @weretoons

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

Is It Karma If Rebel Angels Get Rebelled Back By Earth Angels...? Part 1

[Note: Reading This Post Is Optional...also Please Don’t Reblog This Without My Permission.]  

 this might be a very strange thought, but if Lucifer had did that whole rebellion thing, and of course at the worse possible time because of the whole imbalance thing with the masculine and feminine, and the stupidity of some of our ancestors back during the Indo-European Days...

would it be karma for Lucifer and his Rebel Angels that sided with him, to end up having some Earth Angels do a Rebel back, but not in the same way he and those that followed him had done.

and yeah the strangest thought that pop into my head, is rebelling on Samael, but doing it in a way that has to do with trying to protect...

and yeah, I get that Cain is my Ancestor, well him and Seth....which makes them both Grandpas and Uncles.......they are Grand-Dunkles.

also I’m not going to force others to believe in both the Heavenly Father and the Earthly Mother, it should be of others own choice...

but you have to admit there is some messed up stuff that has to do with Cain and Abel, and even Adam’s relationships with Lilith and Eve.

and those three angels shouldn’t of tried to force Lilith to return to Adam, if she wanted to, she would of did so by her own choice to, and maybe they both could of worked it out, but Adam was really immature during his younger days, and didn’t have much sense until he became older. 

and I still think both Cain and Abel were in the wrong, and it didn’t help that Cain became worse, because he wasn’t being given the proper help during his spiritual and emotional depression.

if it is true that Adam did try to stop Abel from crossing lines he shouldn’t, then he should of tried harder, and he could of tried a bit harder to help Cain heal properly.

since Cain wasn’t given the proper healing when he was spiritually and emotionally hurting, his depression got to the point where it went to a dangerous place.

Adam and Lilith had a Toxic-Relationship, and Adam was trying to force her to return to him, even if she didn’t want to, well he would have those three angels try to force her, even if some info says they were given orders not to try to force her to return to Adam.....

and yeah, I get some might not fully understand about my feelings about Samael, but if some stuff that is wrote about him is true, doesn’t that mean he crosses lines he shouldn’t and it might not help with the balance between the Divine Masculine Patriarchy and Divine Feminine Matriarchy...? 

also besides this, I also don’t fully trust all Boomers....well besides the Eon-Boomers that makes up some of the Male-Angels...

not saying that all Baby Boomers are bad, but I have my reason not trust all of them, and the ones I don’t fully trust will be known as Toxic-Boomers. 

the pandemic that happen before, you know the Covid-19...

was likely because of the Toxic-Masculine energy that influenced it, but not everyone has to agree with that, but I still believe it is possible.

and yeah we still have the Toxic-Feminine energy to deal with as well, but it isn’t as high or dangerous as the Toxic-Masculine energy.

also I know not many will take a interest in this, and not everyone has to read this, even if reading this is optional.

anyway believing in a Goddess now, even though I can still believe in God as well, is my choice and it was my free will to do so.

and hopefully some can respect that but don’t have to believe in the same thing as me when it comes to that.

some Toxic-Religious people don’t listen to reason when you tell them to stop using certain words at ya, even if the words are misused and what that person is doing is hurting your feelings really badly and making you cry.

anyway, I will talk more about this either tomorrow or in a few days...

don’t know what others will think about the weird thought about Earth Angels Rebelling on Rebel Angels....well I’m weird, so of course that is going to be a weird and very strange thought....even if the whole rebelling thing would be slightly different from what those Eon-Boomers were doing, which was once again at a very bad time when the imbalance was happening. 

and yes, the thoughts of willingly wanting to go to Purgatory still crossed my mind, but if Samael ends up going there once in a while, I’m staying as far away from him as possible.....one of the thoughts I had was staying in a tower, I mean if there was one in Purgatory....anyway, I will make Part 2 of this when I can.

but it might not be right away, and part 2 of this might be wrote and posted on August instead....and it’s okay that this doesn’t get many people reading it.                   

[cosmicghoul99]

Hannibal Lecter - The Devil in Disguise

I'm not sure how many people know this, but if you're unaware, some really interesting things relate to the show and Hannibal's character specifically. (Wanna add that I am not religious, so apologies if I get something wrong. I mean no offense to anyone, this is just a little analysis on my part)

There are a lot of biblical references in the show. It makes sense; religion has always been a deep, moral, and philosophical concept, and Hannibal loves to incorporate the ideas of religion and God into his actions and that of those around him. One of these references is a recurring one. Hannibal is often referred to as the devil. Like this quote from Gideon:

"You really are the devil," Abel Gideon - Antipasto

Or this one from Bedelia:

"Who holds the Devil, let him hold him well. He will hardly be caught a second time." Bedelia Du Maurier - The Wrath of the Lamb

Add this to all the religious imagery, the references to stags and the wendigo, plus the season three discussions about Dante. Bedelia says that she was "swallowed whole" by the beast at the mouth of Hell. You get the picture. There is a lot of talk and allusions to Hannibal being "the Devil."

Obviously, this is a metaphor first and largely used because he is the main "evil" or antagonistic character, but there's actually some truth to this.

Both Bryan Fuller, the creator, and Mads Mikkelsen, the actor of Hannibal, have stated that Hannibal is meant to be the literal devil. He is meant to be both a personification of the devil and the literal devil.

According to Bryan Fuller, Mads Mikkelsen plays Hannibal like he is Lucifer. In an interview, he stated that "he is as close as you can come to the Devil, in the sense that the Devil has no reasons," following it up by saying that Hannibal's reactions aren’t something of a person, but of the Devil. He intentionally plays the character through the lens of the fallen angel, Lucifer. Hannibal is meant to, in the eyes of the actor, be a manifestation of the Devil

Bryan Fuller has also said in interviews and online that he believes Hannibal is the devil. Of course, he states that this is his opinion and that others are up to their own interpretation, but the show's main creator and writer believes this also means that we can reasonably see this in the show.

Throughout the show, Hannibal is simply on another level. Many times, he does not seem human but rather otherworldly. I think that is where Mad's acting presents itself, alongside whenever Hannibal is talking about humanity and God.

Hannibal loves to play at being God and also criticizes God as well. I believe it is in episode three after Will kills Hobbs, that they discuss how Will killing Hobbs felt good. Hannibal responds with this.

"Killing must feel good to God, too... He does it all the time, and are we not created in His image?" Hannibal Lecter - Amuse-Bouche 

Oh boy. This is such an interesting line. He talks about being created in His image. Let's be honest; he speaks as if he were God or knows God at least. His comment actually makes more sense if you view this as him being the Devil. Lucifer, the fallen angel, was cast from Heaven for rebelling against God. He feels that it was unjust. Most people talking about God and His actions view him with benevolence. Hannibal does not. In the bible, Lucifer had a problem with humans. And humans are, of course, said to be created in God's image. You could also argue that angels, especially Lucifer, were created in that same image, too. Hannibal has an issue with the rude. Why the rude particular? It is because those who are rude often showcase the worst of humanity's attributes and free will. Hannibal despises the rude because I believe that it, in some ways, represents the hatred that the Devil, or Lucifer, holds for humanity. The Devil had an issue with humans gaining free will and felt they did not deserve life via God's hands. This is similar to how Hannibal feels that those who are rude do not deserve to live. Hannibal, then, of course, being Satan himself, would be resentful of God for casting him from Heaven. Again, Hannibal often discusses God's motives, or what God feels doing certain things. Literally, a few seconds later in that episode, he says this:

"Hannibal: God's terrific. He dropped a church roof on thirty-four of his worshippers last Wednesday night in Texas while they sang a hymn.

Will: Did God feel good about that?

Hannibal: He felt powerful." Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter - Amuse-Bouche 

That last line about him feeling powerful gets me thinking. Hannibal is speaking not just about this but also about his own fall. But more importantly, he's also showing us what he thinks of himself. Killing makes God feel powerful. That means that killing makes Hannibal feel powerful as well. He is both giving motives and somewhat criticizing God at the same time. Hannibal seems to find the situation amusing. I think he believes it quite funny that humans were killed while worshipping God. He might even see a comparison between what happened to him and what happened here. He is simultaneously praising God and calling Him a hypocrite.

Hannibal's motives for killing are also interesting, and I said earlier that I think the reason why he kills is because he believes that rude and ill-tempered people are the problem with humanity. And he wants to get rid of them.

Now, let's explore how this connects with other metaphors, his decisions in canon, and his relationship with Will.

Let's talk about the stag. I did some research, and in many religions, including Christianity, stags represent God and his might, at least from what I could find. I find this interesting because stags are also meant to represent opposition to the snake, another symbol of the Devil. Why is the representation of Hannibal, at least in Will's mind, a stag? I think it actually represents the darkening of Will. If stags are meant to represent good, then that means that Will starts off that way and then slowly follows the stag and is affected by it, which, to me, means that Will is slowly being corrupted. Just like the stag was corrupted due to Hannibal's influence, Will is starting to change and fall deeper and deeper into darkness. It's also interesting that the dynamic between Hannibal and Will is clearly that of one between the Devil and the person they are trying to tempt. Hannibal is trying to tempt Will into changing himself and embracing the darkness inside of him.

Will is Hannibal's realization that humans are actually not that bad. They are complex, and their free will actually makes them relate to him more than he thinks. Will is his weakness, and Hannibal is intrigued by him. If the Devil, which is Hannibal, is the snake, then, in Hannibal's own words, Will is the mongoose that preys on the snake. Hannibal originally fell because of humans, and at the end of the series, he falls because of humanity again. He fell for Will. Will is meant to represent the lamb of God. The symbolism is that Hannibal fell for Will, who sacrificed himself to keep the Devil away, getting corrupted in the process.

Dolarhyde is also a factor. The original painting, "The Great Red Dragon," represents Satan. How does that tie into this idea? I think it's not Dolarhyde who is meant to be Satan; rather, it is Hannibal. We know that Dolyrhde idolizes Hannibal in a sense. Like Will and many of his other patients, which I'll get into later, Francis is influenced by what Hannibal says. Yet another temptation by the Devil. This is also connected to Will coming into his own life because Francis is also manipulated by Will. There is a connection between Hannibal and Will, which is shared via the tempting and manipulation of Francis.

I mean, we have this statement by Jack talking about The dragon, the lamb, etc. Jack says that,

"He's not the Dragon, you are. The Devil himself bound in the pit." Jack Crawford

Hannibal compares Jack to God. But I think they both are, in some way.

Many of Hannibal's patients and the people in his life, in general, are manipulated by him. I mean, some of his patients are tempted and influenced by him to do bad things commit crimes, and murder people. That's very indicative of the Devil's work, in my opinion. Even Jack and Alana end up being manipulated and deceived by him.

There is a lot of other religious imagery and symbolism, so I'll only discuss some of it. To start with, the reference to Bedelia's presentation and Hannibal's name in Italy and what they could represent. I mentioned earlier that in season 3, Bedelia talks about her time in Florence with Hannibal. She talks about how Dante gave a physical space to Hell, a solid concept, but before that, people would say, the "mouth of Hell." Then she says that she was "swallowed by the beast." This refers to Hannibal, but here's the interesting thing. In the Bible, the Devil is also referred to as the Beast. Bedelia is yet again referring to herself being used and brought into the mouth of Hell by the Beast, Hannibal. The name that Hannibal was monikered by in Italy is also the same. "Il Mostro" translates to the monster, which can be interpreted as yet another way to refer to the devil. Then, there is the obvious references to lambs in the show, with it being a sacrificial symbol. I'm sure that's been talked about a lot, and I mentioned it earlier.

There are many mentions of justice, redemption, retribution, and more in the show. This connects with the religious themes, of course, but it also plays into Hannibal's view of himself as a God, as well as how the show depicts him as the Devil. He is the one who casts judgment onto people, like his patients, and onto the rude, like a God. He is the one who issues punishment for sins and misdeeds, like the Devil. I think it's so interesting to see them both working in tandem.

I once saw a post saying that Hannibal acts like he's lived the same life a hundred or so times. And I agree. He does. He acts like he has been around for a time so long that many have forgotten it. It makes sense why he's so confident, and nothing seems to phase him. Nothing that happens has any consequence for him. The only thing, really, that he cares about is Will. That's why he tries to get Will to have his Becoming and Fall with him. He wants Will to be there with him. Which is sweet, I think :) And not to bring up related trauma for anyone that has ever been a fan of Devilman or Devilman Crybaby, but IMO, it really really reminds me of Akira and Ryo and how Ryo is stuck in the same cycle over and over again as a lesson. Idk, my opinion. Let me know what you think.

I also wanted to touch on some other interpretations of the raven stag shown alongside the wendigo and how other religions and beliefs might relate to this.

The Wendigo is a demonic entity or evil spirit from the Algonquian people of Canada. It is a winter spirit that is meant to represent greed and gluttony. When humans succumb to greed, like being greedy for money, being cruel to people, or generally evil things, the Wendigo spirit can possess you. During harsh winters, when food is scarce, people commit taboo acts and consume another human, participating in cannibalism. This also causes a possession and turns this person into a wendigo, never to be satisfied and constantly craving forever. I am not Algonquian, or even Indigenous/Native American, so I can't speak too much on this, and I don't know too much, but I hope I explained it well enough. I apologize if I did not. The show has its own visualization of this, and Wendigos traditionally doesn't look like the one in the show, but the overall message is the same. Even if Hannibal is not the Devil, he could be some manifestation of a Wendigo. It makes sense. Remember his back story? He was forced into captivity while hiding by soldiers during an extremely harsh winter during the war. Harsh enough that food became scarce, and the soldiers had to resort to cannibalism. They fed Mischa to Hannibal, which might have triggered something. Ofc this is a reach, but I did want to bring another interpretation into this.

Obviously, this is all just speculation. I love this show, with its dark complexities and incredible depth, and I wanted to talk about something I've been thinking about for a while now. Again, not everything might be correct. I apologize if that's not the case. Please feel free to correct me. I also apologize if this made no sense or was not cohesive, it's pretty late for me, but I couldn't get this out of my head.

I hope it was interesting ;)

[helluverse-rewrites]

Here's an idea that I've been wanting to share somewhere for a while.

Caine, the first murderer, is a Sin, specifically the sin of Treachery as referenced in the divine comedy(Alternatively he's just regarded as equal to the sins and is given the title of Treachery) . His "Ring" however isn't a place but more travel and trade, the nomads and vagabonds of hell, since he was cursed to forever wander. He acts as a third-party in the affairs of Hell and Earth and could be responsible for the early day or trade and messages between the rings.

To add to his sin of murder he could've also acted as Lucifer's executioner back before the exterminations. Whenever a sinner thought about rebelling against the royal family Cain would be the one to kill them, having the ability to kill sinner without needing angelic weaponry.

Wait this lowkey slays I am in love

I am so excited to get to talking about Cain and Abel for my rewrite. I am, however, going to wait until season 2 for Hazbin Hotel

But I love this version of Cain you came up with

Also MORE EVIL LUCIFER WOOOOOOO

[alice-the-demon]

I randomly remembered that in middle school or so I had my first crush on this fan character from BATIM called Abel the Rebel Angel.

And that one of my first digital drawings I ever made was with this guy in it.

When I get home I'll go to my computer and see if I still have it saved somewhere lol

[destielbait]

ROUND ONE MATCHUPS:

MATCHUP ONE:

9x06 vest removal

fanfiction episode

MATCHUP TWO:

the very touch of you corrupts

he was your boyfriend first

MATCHUP THREE:

cas not for nothing but last person looked at me like that i got laid

goodbye stranger

MATCHUP FOUR:

i love you. i love all of you.

are we still talking about sam, or did you break up with someone too?

MATCHUP FIVE:

free to be you and me

there are people things feelings i want to experience maybe even for the first time

MATCHUP SIX:

he's in love........... with humanity.

pizza man recap

MATCHUP SEVEN:

dean's male siren

the trap prayer

MATCHUP EIGHT:

purgatory arc

dean telling charlie how to flirt with men

MATCHUP NINE:

deleted scene of cas heaven with shirtless dean

15x19 lucifer pretending to be cas

MATCHUP TEN:

the prisoner fight

i'm hunted. i rebelled. and i did it. all of it. for you.

MATCHUP ELEVEN:

i can see inside your heart. feel the love you feel. and it's cloaked in shame.

lily sunder episode

MATCHUP TWELVE:

colette / they didn't even cast abel

cas get out of my ass. i was never in your ass

MATCHUP THIRTEEN:

the angel in the dirty trenchcoat who's in love with you.

the man who would be king

MATCHUP FOURTEEN:

the mixtape

dean keeping the trenchcoat after s7 cas death

nominations that will automatically make it to round two:

despair

widow arc

[formerdino]

My Biblical Bad Boys Ranking

1. Judas Iscariot- He is so tragic. Doomed from the start. He betrayed his best friend, but somebody had to. One of the most famous traitors all for fulfilling his destiny. The way he hung himself afterwards and left the thirty pieces of silver lying unspent beneath him. He took no pleasure in what he had done and couldn't live with himself afterwards. Maybe if he had loved Jesus less he could have seen him again. He could have even been forgiven for following a plan he didn't know about, but he didn't wait three days. He didn't know to. He took his own life before his best friend was even cold in the ground. Free him.

2. Cain - He was innovator. Ahead of his time. There wasn't murder until he invented it. God asked him where Abel and he shot back with the iconic line "Am I my brother's keeper?". King of not incriminating himself. And honestly who hasn't wanted one less sibling? Free him.

3. Lucifer/ Satan / The Devil- There's a lot of hype around this one. OG pretty boy/ fallen angel/ bad boy. I'd like to know him biblically, but I'd never worship him. He rebelled against God and got evicted for it. No need to free him he's the warden.

[goodoldfashionedengineer]

Crowley would absolutely be sympathetic towards Cain after he killed Abel.

Think about it, Abel was the first human who died.

Cain didn't know that death was an option.

Just like the rebel angels didn't know that Falling was an option.

[mothgardens]

“You’re Losing Me” By Taylor Swift is THE later season Destiel song, specifically from Castiel’s perspective.

If somebody has already said this then… uh, uh, uh- :3

Immediately, the first lines suit the two of them SO well:

Dean not understanding why he and Sam were set up for the fate that they were: Michael and Lucifer, Cain and Abel 2.0, Angel and Demon. Cass was there to tell him that he doesn’t always get it either. Take the bench scene from 04x07 for example:

“You misunderstood me, Dean, I’m not like you think. I was praying that you would choose to save the town.”

“I’m not a hammer, as you say, I have questions; I have doubts. I don’t know what is right or what is wrong anymore.”

Cass was always willing to explain and guide, even in times when Dean had lost almost all hope. He and Dean used to appreciate the world for its beauty and delicacy. Now it’s over and Cass sits in The Empty (the dark).

Dean became so complicated and angry as the seasons progressed. He was always so contradictory and Cass kept getting confused and lost. He got kicked out by Dean and barely even knew why. He didn’t know if everything they had become had been tossed out.

He kept rising from the ashes metaphorically and literally. Metaphorically, when he was kicked down by Dean (or anyone for that matter), he would get back up and continue to help the Winchesters for the greater good. He was stronger than he got credit for.

Dean’s anger and isolation made it nearly impossible for either Cass or Sam to communicate with him. He turned them away, got angry, broke things, drank too much, or acted plain arrogant. Eventually Cass was getting fed up (rightfully so).

Cass and HIS CANON GLARE- when he gets so angry that he glares instead of speaking because that spoke louder. Because he knew Dean wouldn’t listen to a damn word he would say.

Dean once called him a brother, but now he said that the only constant in their plans ‘s downfalls seems to be Castiel:

“The plan changed Dean, something went wrong, you know this, something always goes wrong.”

“Then why does that something always seem to be you.”

All Cass wanted was to talk, instead Dean turned it into his fault completely and blamed him for things out of his control (Mary, Jack, Rowena…).

Their air was always thick with loss off hunters, loss of battles, loss of hope. It was full of indecision of how to move forward when all possibilities seemed like dead ends.

Each time that they were in a situation that they felt stuck in Dean would be mad. Dean would take that anger out on Cass as if his presence at all was an imposition.

Dean never realized truly how much he loved Cass until Cass was gone to The Empty, for good.

THIS BRIDGE WAS FUCKING WRITTEN FOR THEM AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT A DENIAL OF THIS STATEMENT ‼️‼️

They were THE sad song for ELEVEN years. Eventually when Dean almost killed Castiel’s son in front of him, that pushed Cass over the edge. That was enough. Cass had given him everything. Cass rebelled against heaven for Dean, he lost everything for Dean. He dealt with Dean’s hot and cold temper for YEARS without complaint, only compassion.

“AND ALL I DID WAS BLEED AS I TRIED TO BE THE BRAVEST SOLDIER !! FIGHTING IN ONLY YOUR ARMY FRONTLINES DON’T YOU IGNORE ME”

That lyric IS Castiel. Prove me wrong, you can’t.

Cass always wanted Dean to just see him, and in the glimpses Dean did, Cass was his happiest. But, as the seasons progressed Dean stopped outwardly appreciating Cass at all. All he showed him was frustration and anger.

1. “Do something, babe, say something” is versatile. Early season Dean would say it to early season Cass. It is also 15x03 Cass saying: “I tried to talk to you over and over again, but you don’t care. I’m… dead to you.”

2. “Lose something, babe, risk something” Early season Dean to early season Cass.

3. “Choose something, babe, i got nothing” LATE SEASON CASS TO LATE SEASON DEAN !! Specifically 15x03 (again <3) when Cass says “Jack’s dead. Chuck’s gone. You and Sam have each other. I think it’s time for me to move on.” HE WAS SAYING HE HAD NOTHING LEFT.

This song is just so Destiel coded and I cannot keep this in my head or I will explode.

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE if u have imput reblog or whatever and talk about it because lyrical ships are SO important to me.

[deanstudies101]

5x08, Changing Channels

Critical theory: Genre awareness / genre expectations. Meta. Destiny. 

Discussion point/question(s): Dr. Sexy. Bisexuality. 

Discussion: 

Iga, “They didn’t break the 4th wall. They invented more walls and then broke those.” 

Supernatural felt more Supernatural when it was back to Supernatural. 

Enjoy Gabriel quite a lot. A lot of depth, especially that we’ve seen him before. Nice to see him a bit pathetic. [I think it served them well to reuse this character. He has history, we know him.] Iga had already been questioning if the trickster god could reverse the apocalypse…. no. He can’t. Also, if Gabriel is more powerful than a trickster, then tricksters aren’t as powerful as we thought. [But like. It’s a bit watered down now, but remember how the demons first reacted to angels. Angels are incredibly powerful.] They did good writing with trickster/Gabriel. [I love him. We all love him. He’s a well loved character. And I was really excited, because like. When he was first introduced, angels weren’t even a concept. This is a slow burn.] 

Gabriel shows more contempt for Sam. Why? Sam is the one who gets slapped, has to operate, gets his balls whacked, had to live through the mystery spot. Why? Is it because Sam is Lucifer’s vessel? And Lucifer was the one who rebelled, who broke up the family? 

They are stuck in the narrative. They are playing the roles that are designed for them. The whole script is written. They cannot escape it. One brother dies, one gets to live. It’s almost like the writers are screaming “there’s no arc here, they’re making us do this.” It’s all very hopeless for Sam and Dean. They cannot escape the narrative, they cannot escape the script. They are characters in a TV show. The writers were pointing at Sam and Dean and saying “they are characters in a TV show. They are puppets. They have to do what I say.” (This was all Iga and please understand that she’s having a breakdown.)

Are Cain and Abel vessels? Gabriel refers to the apocalypse as “Sunday dinner,” so has this happened before? 

[Dr. Sexy. There is no straight explanation for that. Dean is bisexual. That face. That face. He’s nervous. He’s got a crush.] He knew that he wore cowboy boots. Also, another indicator that his macho personality is fake. He likes this show. 

This must have been so much fun to 1) write, 2) act. They’re having a great time. 

Star student: Iga, comments on the narrative + Sam and Dean as characters, despite;

Notes: Iga is not fully in the room with us on a psychological level but is doing her best. 

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How would you have written hazbin hotel if you were the director instead of vivziepop

For one thing, I would make the head of the exterminators this guy named Dumah while Adam is the ambassador to hell who tries to be friendly with Charlie due to being his ex's kid and treating her like a stepdaughter. Also again Charlie should know he's the first man and he's the one who vouches for her idea out of just trying anything to prevent more murders of his descendants despite all of them being fallen sinners. Also his right hands would be Abel and Seth and replace Lute. Also he totally does tons of dad jokes. He's still married to Eve and talks a bunch about his wife.

Make Alastor actually mixed race in appearance also have him just be a radio demon and not have anything to do with voodooism. If we do do Voodoo, we would have his deity be Kalfu who would have ties to hell and maybe be an aspect of Lucifer which could be a reason why he's so powerful mostly because Kalfu was tied with Lucifer.

You know what if they really are trying to be biblical the most powerful overlords are the big baddies in the Bible like Cain, Haman, Jezebel, Ahab, Herod, Delilah, Abimelech, Athaliah, Pharaoh Of Egypt, Goliath, etc. The lesser overlords would often be tied with them. I could see the Vee's be supported by one of those above.

Also don't make Lucifer into sad boy make him into someone who isn't a sad dreamer but an arrogant pos who still thinks he's justified rebelling against God and revels in the fact he made humanity fall and now gets to see them suffer. Also he has an agreement with Doomas army to thin out hell to again thin out the population. And again cause sinners more suffer. And his daughter wants to stand against this cruelty in the name of sinners.

The other sins would be featured, but they again wouldn't be wusses but actually embody their sins but they have offspring that question their parents and are less extreme than them.

Vaggie would be a sinner and is someone who has gotten a rough hand in life and would be an example of why some sinners should be given a second chance.

Angel Dust is just a pornstar and not anything to do with prostituting. As people said, he's really doing too much at once. Also he could strip on the side but that is it. However, I do think Valentino wouldn't be above pimping him out to those who would pay big money to sleep with the biggest pornstar. And again make Valentino actually threatening and smart so there is a reason why he came out on top and not because of the other vees.

Make Charlie and her family look Middle Eastern and have all the sins as well look Middle Eastern since they are again Middle Eastern origins while also they have updated looks for modern times.

Also we get tons of people who come as permanent guest like Baxter, Sir Pretentious, Crymini, and adding in a new guest, Cain. Cain would be represented as someone who hasn't been seen in a while but he comes as a surprised guest. Also his subplot would be reconnecting with his family.

Lilith won't have some thing about her disappearance but she will have some issues with her marriage with her husband due to how Charlie is treated and again instead of making him nice dad make him someone who as originally depicted wasn't a good father. However, he still would love his wife. She's evil, but still cares about her daughter.

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Confession: I haven’t actually watched Season 15, the season where God is the antagonist and is therefore far more thoroughly explored, but I have been thinking of a way to reconcile fate, free will, and whether or not God is omniscient in the context of Supernatural, focusing primarily on the apocalypse and Lucifer’s fall.

I think the idea of the three primordial entities - God, Amara, Death - standing as equals that are unable to rule over one another without considerable effort and outside force is Really Neato. I think it’s absolutely essential to God being omniscient, if Amara and Death are also omniscient, and more importantly, all three are divine beings that rule over their aspects in totality. Similar to parent-child relationships in computer systems, God’s creations are His children and He contains and rules over anything that those creations could or will be.

And, because God is possibly the only one really creating children to rule over (the reapers get So Messy in the ‘Are they Death’s? Are they a subclass of angels? Did God make reapers to give to Death and try to cage Death in a little bit through them?’ <- my personal preference), we can’t really explore what that relationship would look like in a 1:1 way with the other primordial entities. Sure, we know that Death will reap God, we know that Death can do things outside of the rules that God sets forth - Death can go in and out of Lucifer’s Cage, for example. God had to lock Amara away because She could destroy anything She wanted, regardless of what He wanted or how He tried to protect it.

But, the big issue with God being omniscient is - well, did God actually want the devil? If God writes out fate, then He knew Lucifer would rebel, or allowed them to rebel, or made it so Lucifer would rebel, and so, can Lucifer really be punished for those actions that were at the end of the day controlled by God?

Lucifer might have been the very first exception, the very first creation that escaped God’s complete control, because Lucifer had the Mark of Amara - the first curse - which warped Lucifer. The Mark that bound Dean to Amara, tied his soul so profoundly to this primordial entity that it changed Her, was contained in Lucifer as well. Lucifer became not just a child of God, but a child of Amara as well by being a creation of God that contains an aspect of Amara. And, with that first taste of free will that any creation had, Lucifer rebelled, rose up against humanity and fought against Heaven, and was only (possibly only able to be) thrown into the Cage after giving the Mark of Amara to Cain. (And to get Sad, the corruption of the Garden of Eden becomes a more direct parallel to Lucifer’s fall through this interpretation - humanity is innocent and not meant to understand nakedness and lust and shame until they commit those things, and Lucifer does not understand free will or that it is a sin against God or not allowed because it’s not supposed to exist, until they commit it.)

Cain, and Dean, very interestingly, cannot be killed by Death while they bear that Mark. Death, as an equal primordial entity, canonically cannot overrule this aspect of Amara.

This brings us back to the apocalypse - we’re told repeatedly that God has written this story, with an open-ending, but either Lucifer dies or Michael dies, one archangel kills the other. Lucifer, freed from the Cage and without the Mark of Amara, is acting in accordance to the script again, but free will wins, despite how Cain still has the Mark of Amara and isn’t involved at all. He’s keeping those bees in Missouri, unbothered, fully moisturized.

And this may be an admittedly sprawling and messy answer to that — the lineage descending from Cain and Abel also carries the power of the Mark of Amara. Dean and Sam have to be descendants of both Cain and Abel, unified by their shared parents, and maybe that’s because Cain’s descendants also have that aspect of Amara shielding them at least partially from God’s influence. That can be a little supported by how Cain argues his children are predisposed to murder, the most feasible form of destruction for humans to accomplish, that the Mark craves, but it also means that the free will that humanity is purportedly blessed with is not an intentional blessing from God, but an unintentional creation from Amara, Lucifer, and Cain.

But maybe there’s a simpler answer - Dean and Sam had both died and been brought back to life before the apocalypse. Both were touched by Death, and maybe that gave them aspects of Death to carry, to shield them from God’s influence. Maybe God thought that Death wouldn’t care to influence the apocalypse or try to stop it, but we know that Death did - Death didn’t have to give Dean the horseman ring or the secret to open the Cage, but Death literally gave Dean the means to completely derail God’s planned apocalypse.

Whether Amara gave humanity free will through Cain or Death gave it to the Winchesters, this time around, God seems to be entertained by the genuine suspense and surprise awaiting him in the apocalypse. He, as Chuck, is just writing things down as it happens, He might not be actually bound by Heaven as Zachariah threatens Chuck that He is, but He is overpowered and caged in by another entity’s influence and forced to watch things play out. And He’s enjoying it a bit, He’s pleased to see the ending that does play out with Sam’s swan dive and love conquering all, because even though He wasn’t a fan of Lucifer destroying His newest toys which was Amara’s sin in His eyes, surprise to an omniscient being is definitely rare and can be delightful.

Anyway, that’s a lot of red string and meta to say that if Lucifer got out of the Cage and took back the Mark of Amara from Cain and also had Death bound, she could beat God to death with a hammer Looney Tunes style.