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haine-kleine · 2 months ago
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whatever. you know who really deserved to get a glimpse of baby Tenko's life at his home and at his father's abuse via magic memories voodoo bullshit?
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this guy.
can't believe Horikoshi Mr Parallels Kohei missed this opportunity.
Dabi would have snatched Tenko out of there and burned that house down so fast. and when Tenko would start crying and questioning why was he so broken that he never deserved to be saved, he would say what Tenko actually didn't deserve was to be treated this way by his family, didn't deserve to be abandoned.
and even if it's late, even if the memories are not real, Touya would have saved Tenko's heart by seeing the unfair hurt inflicted on him and reaching out to save him.
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angy-grrr · 3 months ago
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SJ's internal changes (I recall it was the editor in chief, someone really influential) happening JUST at the same time it was announced the epilogue would be 5 chapters (same week) + the ending not bringing up huge plot points (where the other villains are, why theres no actual Himiko corpse and instead we got Ochako's grief over that assumption, what happened to Dabi, what was the All Might vestige, why the bkdk handhold was off screen when its a big deal for them, who is Deku's dad, etc), letting them linger in the air while trying to make an okay ending + that strange two week break because of "schedule conflicts" + choosing to end BNHA under even more pressure even tho its one of the most important manga in SJ + Horikoshi talking about the ending days after the official release and bringing up how grateful he is for being able to work in SJ, as in past tense (like he is grateful he worked here, but isnt happening again; I say this bc I expected him to say something around the lines of "I hope im able to create something good here again soon!", considering we already know he has another manga project, if I remember correctly)
Thinking about it.
Thinking about how he could let it as it is, or try to pick it up and confirm the things that do matter to his story.
Btw, im not talking about the handhold as a shipper -it was genuinely important for them, as it symbolizes both their new mutual understanding and an acceptance as the new All Might duo thanks to their respective heroisms. It wouldn't be weird to add it in the epilogue, especially considering so many characters hold hands in non romanitc ways, so to choose not to when its arguably the most important one... Idk, it felt really weird as it was the only thing I was sure would get sooner or later.
#grrr talking#I could picture him + his team deciding to not include so many things bc they dont want to waste them so quickly#i dont want to give hope to ppl who dont need it#but it felt weird to end it like that even if I can try to explain it away#the ending wasn't terrible but it skipped huge plot points#and I believe he wanted to explore them much better than 5 chapters#bkdk#dkbk#bakudeku#dekubaku#when he talked about being content with what he has drawn refers to the backstories of the OFA's users#literally in the same phrase he brings it up#plus he generally does that -he doesnt expand into everyone's backstories in the manga even if he knows the whole story#this isnt about making an open ending its about skipping big topics and themes on purpose#he could leave it as it is sure but if he wanted to actually write having more time and pages to work with#he could#again this isnt about backstories or explaining their world -its about themes he decided to skip like Dabi's and Himiko's fate#he directly didnt bring them up#he could have made the todoroki family visit a grave to finish his story but he didnt#he could have made Ochako bring flowers to a place implying thats were Himiko's corpse is but he didnt#he didnt close their stories#he implied spinner's but didnt close theirs#and the handhold it wasn't he secret he wanted to make them hold hands to symbolize the hero duo#so why not showing a small panel of it too instead of implying it?#shippers would eat it up dudebros would still see it as platonic and heroic
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iicaru2 · 1 month ago
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ok so, i know im late, but i only refixated on mha recently and i wasnt really caught up on the manga beyond the ua traitor arc/a few spoilers here and there past that. so i just decided fuck it season 7 time right now.
but was anyone gonna fucking tell me that touyas first thoughts (upon waking up after being in a coma for THREE YEARS) werent along the lines of anger and rage and resentment. instead he rationalized his dad mustve just been busy with work and thats why he couldnt come to sekoto peak. and that the last time he saw his family he said/did some really awful things, so he wants to see them again to apologize. they must be so worried about him. and he was scared and alone and three years older, his body horrifically burned beyond recognition, but the only thing he wanted was to see his family again.
or was i just supposed to figure that out for the first time ten minutes ago and then cry my eyes out. what the actual hell.
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dekusleftsock · 2 years ago
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Did anyone see this? I feel like it’s a small detail in the pile of evidence for Izuku’s “control your heart” thing going on.
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Hell, even Bakugou Katsuki Rising is referenced in the same chapter.
(Side note: me and my friend ended up spending 20 minutes identifying that flower, ty @the-real-loverboy for being my favorite flower nerd—regardless it’s called the Paris Japonica, a rare flower native to Japan that has the largest genome to our knowledge. Only problem? I can’t find any symbolism on this flower, and every source is written by white people in the west on how to care for the flower so. If anyone knows literally anything important about this flower, I’m very very interested. I know that it can bloom in the early winter and is more tolerable to colder climates, so maybe it’s a reference to rei/the general himura family? Who knows)
Going back to the original thought, I think the line “I wonder what changes we’ll witness… come tomorrow” has been kind of disregarded. And, as the newest spoilers have shown, the entire todoroki family is undergoing this evolution of the heart ALONGSIDE their own personal quirks.
Now, what does that have to do with bkdk and Izuku specifically? We have ofc, the plot line of Izuku not being able to control his heart for Katsuki, but what makes this situation unique is one for all itself.
Ofa, as I understand it, is a quirk closely related to romance. It’s surrounded all of Izuku’s emotions and close relationships, along with Nana’s signature line describing ofa as romantic. And, if we’re talking about near death experiences making these hidden parts of their quirks pop out unintentionally, then that would explain why Katsuki has a connection to ofa. From the ofa stars DURING Bakugou Katsuki Rising, to being able to meet and then talk to the Allmight vestige.
So, uncontrolled emotions, rejection of vulnerability, creates an intimate connection to anyone that Izuku the character, cares about.
On top of all of this, all of Izuku’s inner quirk stuff is so closely tied to his heart, that he doesn’t even need to be in life or death situations—it just has to feel like it. Anger so palpable, he literally unlocks blackwhip. Fear of his friends and fellow heroes demise so strong he unlocks float. And the list goes on and on, with him unlocking most of his quirks during his lowest low, his depressive episode.
Izuku doesn’t have to be dying like Touya does to lose control, he just has to vaguely feel like it.
And of the characters I feel have not evolved their hearts as much as their quirks, Katsuki and Izuku I feel will be the most passionate.
But I digress, here’s the people I believe will have this inner life or death quirk “awakening” because of their hearts: Toga, Ochako, Deku, Katsuki, Shigaraki, and the entire Todoroki family.
Now, controlling your heart and near death experiences, lets see—why are these two ideas so closely tied to each other? What makes them inherently unique in comparison to each other?
Or rather, a better question, what connects them?
I’d argue it’s acceptance. Pain could be another argument sure, but I feel like it’s way more common to just accept that your dying when you’re almost dead, than to actually register the pain from it.
And acceptance of the heart often comes hand in hand with those experiences—Endeavor knows he will die with Touya and he has accepted the fact that he was never enough for him as a father, but that if he can bring him to the sky, it will be okay because he can die with his son as penitence for his wrongdoings, while keeping the rest of his family okay. Probably better off without him because of his actions.
And Katsuki, during his death, has accepted his fate. But while doing so, he has also accepted that he won’t catch up to Izuku, that he truly has been a dorky fan of Allmight, that he can die loving him. (Love doesn’t have to mean romantic in this example, like yes I do believe they will be canon, but love is a loose term here because of what his death truly meant) Because that death meant accepting his care and his admiration of Izuku, that he’s always been looking behind him.
And this circles back to Izuku, with parallels between Rei chasing Endeavor into the fire paralleling Izuku chasing Katsuki into fire during the sludge villain fight, because endeavors death is—while poetic—ultimately only harmful. Yes he is saving the city and Japan, he is dying as a hero and protecting his family, but as Shoto said, they have to do it together. This isn’t Endeavor healing his heart, I would argue it’s meaningless sacrifice born out of guilt. Rei SHOULD help, Natsuo SHOULD help, Fuyumi SHOULD HELP! Shoto shouldn’t have tried to fight dabi on his own, because Enji and Shoto both feel entirely responsible for what Touya has become, when they aren’t!
People forget that Touya is a fucking adult. He’s a serial killer and an arsonist because he chose to be. That doesn’t mean he’s forever going to be the worst person in the world, but no one person is responsible for his actions other than him. And that’s a reality we have to accept with our trauma, our parents can exponentially fuck up and make us terrible people, but you as a person have every opportunity as an adult to change what they have made you become. Touya could have gotten a job if he was that mad at his dad, he could have just fucking knocked on the front door of his house, he could have chosen at ANY POINT in his life to say, “No, I shouldn’t do that.” But he simply didn’t.
And not Endeavor, not Rei, not Natsuo, not Fuyumi, and certainly not Shoto are responsible for that. Dabi is selfish. I love his character but that’s a fact. He is selfish because of his trauma yes, this is all born out of an innate childhood need for his fathers attention yes, but that doesn’t make it justified.
“But Sock what about what you said earlier about saving him together!” I still stand by both my points.
Dabi can both need to be saved AND can also be selfish for needing to be saved in the first place. Those aren’t opposite ideas, they can still coexist. And they can coexist because Dabi is a character written well! He’s not a “villain with the right ideas taken too far”, he’s a complex person with an interesting backstory who has still killed people. (Fun fact dabi has committed several war crimes under the Geneva Convention LMAO)
MHA describes heroics as oftentimes “sticking your nose in places where they don’t belong”, meaning even people who don’t necessarily want to be saved. Dabi can still be selfish and wrong while still needing to be saved and supported.
There’s this line in a fanfic I read, something about human beings sometimes not having enough time in their life to become a better person. For person A, maybe it takes a couple months and a few simple ideas. For person B, maybe it takes your whole life and then some to understand the weight of your own actions. And that doesn’t make person A or person B incapable of change, they can still just need a proper opportunity to understand, or practice to implement a new idea into their mind.
Maybe person B just needed better luck, maybe person A was just a teenager growing up, but they both can still change.
Tangent over about the Todoroki family, back to Izuku. Like Endeavor in this instance, Izuku is often the type to have this martyr mentality, but unlike Izuku, Endeavor is the one currently in the fire, or more rather, he is the one currently dying. Like Katsuki.
Katsuki has accepted his death in this war, that ship has sailed. He has come close to death and then actually died, and the todoroki’s are currently going through the process. So that leaves Izuku. (And technically Toga too, maybe ochako, but that’s for another meta one day maybe)
Will Izuku have to come close to death? I’m excited to see.
Idrk how to end this meta, I think I had other thoughts and ideas I wanted to share, (along with a better conclusion), but I forgot those ideas and stuff about half way through writing this.
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cheezritsu · 2 years ago
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I don’t particularly care to stand on polarizing fandom opinion, but this one gets under my fucking skin.
I don’t consider myself a hero or villain stan when it comes to My Hero Academia because I just look at the individual person. I find myself siding a hell of a lot more with the villains because in general, I think it’s true that society failed them, and it’s so sad and infuriating that it failed them at such a young age.
And then there’s Hawks.
And what baffles me about the perception of Hawks is that people will never admit that he’s far more like the villains than the heroes.
Indoctrination goes both ways. Just like Shigaraki was indoctrined by AFO to bring about destruction, Hawks was indoctrined by hero society and the JPHC specifically that Heroes were the ultimate good. Just as Shigaraki was “saved” from his family, Hawks was saved from his. Shigaraki was a tool for AFO to bring about his plan. Hawks is a tool for the JPHC to keep control.
Hawks and Shigaraki are at most two years apart. Hell, we barely ever use Hawks’ birthnames just like Shigaraki and Dabi!
It just doesn’t make sense that people will call the hero society corrupt, but then not call Hawks a victim for being made to carry out its will. Like yes, Hawks chose to be a hero, but he was like, fucking 8 years old and saved from abject poverty and parental neglect. And then you call him a monster for doing the job he’s been brainwashed to do.
If you’re going to have sympathy for villains, and if you’re going to erase some culpability from Shigaraki, Dabi, Toga and Twice because of what they endured, then you have to do the same for Hawks. Because they’re literally all the same. Society failed ALL of them.
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jamiethebeeart · 1 year ago
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(Ref/insp: 8eyestheband on youtube/tiktok - the conversation mashups and the song association game) supplemental info/explanation in the tags
#spinnerdabi#mha spinner#dabi#dabi todoroki#shuichi iguchi#bnha spinner#bnha#mha#people in the comments of their videos keep talking about how they look at each other/ship them and I of course went “how can make this lov#which spiraled to “who do i think would/could sing with spinner on camera” and went not shigaraki (rip) and landed on dabi#i cannot defend this because its purely based on gut feelings#(im not a spinnerdabi shipper but this just fits for me... i may or may not draw more for this au)#so! conversation mashups: take two songs and “what if they were a conversation” so its a back and forth mashup#im obsessed with the i will wait/dial drunk and this town/stick season ones.#the song association game: person gives a one word prompt and they have to think of a song with that in the title and sing it#first to think/sing a song with that word gets the point#anyways i feel bad for them :/ so many ppl in the comments are talking about them romantically and im like Stop It!!!! those r real ppl!!!!#but the premise of band members falling in love with one another and balancing that with their public image? obviously v v v good au fuel#i even made band au stuff back when it was popular on mha cosplay tiktok (with aizawa) and now im revisiting it :)))#in this au im imagining shigaraki as aro/ace (just because) and handling the behind the scenes stuff. lighting. camera. social media. ect.#these tags are a mess lmao#do you guys see my vision? do you get it?#im planning on a toga duet one rn#(now i hear ya: why not compress? well :) i feel like he'd be a prev boy band member turned solo artist. v flashy v performative)#toga would def be an online singer (lots of covers. lot of gay/bi covers of straight songs. some original stuff. maybe some makeup videos?)#oh! she'd pull uraraka and deku in for a make over. thatd be v cute. she'd have 2 persuade both of them and uraraka would be quicker to agre#idk where twice would fit in. magne would be a makeup artist (for her? or other ppl? idk but she'd rock a social media platform)#mustard? i feel like he'd be a minecraft streamer or smth#kurogiri would somehow be teamed up with compress from time to time.#not to get too korean drama-y but afo feels like a management company person? he's got a spotty track record w recruits tho so hes a lil sus
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insurged · 3 months ago
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✿ keiiiiigo
PRE-ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP MEME.
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hello hello kosm <3 i know that dabihawks is a popular ship in the fandom but i was always neutral about them? just because i think dabi finds hawks a hypocrite hero essentially, especially with how hawks finds that there really isn't any way to save twice except to kill him... dabi makes the message hit home in their conversation before he ROASTS THE BIRB RUDE. ahem anyways. i don't see familial relationships between the two, considering their childhoods and that being such a core part of who they both are that i can't see them being childhood friends at all. but i can see the antagonistic but fake friendship romance? maybe it's because i haven't really written with dabis at all with hawks (probably because i do try to keep a distance from the bnha fandom). but i can see a lot of good dynamics between them, healthy or not. let me know what you think! also question, is dabi's jaw unhinged like a snake's? 😭
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problemswithbooks · 1 year ago
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Uraraka has seen Dabi's vlog is why she is pissed with Endeavor from the start(the tranlation doesn't convey her loathing for him well enough). As has everyone in class A.
Oh, I'm sure she's seen it--everyone saw Dabi's video. No, my issue is that Ochako seeing that Twice was killed should have been what made her start to think of Toga in a different light, not just having a memory of her pop into her head during her speech to the civilians.
Ochako had never cared about Toga, or even showed much interest in her as a villain until, suddenly she remembers her being sad and wants to see her smile too. It doesn't make much sense. Toga has only ever smiled when she was attacking Ochako and her friends. Toga is one of the main causes for the situation they are in where everyone's lives are at risk. Yet, she suddenly wants to put a smile back on a girl's face she never cared about before and has only made her own live worse.
It would have made far more sense if we got her remembering Toga after seeing Twice get killed in Dabi's vlog. It becomes clear to her why Toga was upset--her friend died. It makes her start to see her as a person and wonder what Toga was talking about during their mini fight. Maybe it makes her look into Toga and learn about how her parents treated her so we get those flashbacks sooner and in a way where Ochako learns about Toga's past at the same time.
It could also lead into, Ochako, during the planing of the big final battle hearing Hawks say that if that worse comes to worse and Toga has saved blood from Twice and unleashes his clones lethal force might be the only option. That then leads into her conversation with Izuku where she ponders if their could be a better way of stopping her.
Then when she actually does reach out to Toga it feels more earned and something that she actually changed her mind on, instead of Hori just having her tell Toga she likes her smile out of nowhere.
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scarlettcryptid · 4 months ago
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shigaraki would love chainsaw man
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codenamesazanka · 2 years ago
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I always thought this was Toga (disguised as Camie) simply talking about her ‘disappearing’ technique, but I realize - this could be applied to her life pre-crime.
Hiding herself - her true self - from everyone. Stop thinking for herself, think of nothing at all, just move on automatic, obeying without thought. The whole “not thinking” is the hard part - we have brains for a reason. We have a mind and heart unique to ourselves, thinking our private thoughts - but now you need to shut that away.
When people stop breathing, they die. If Toga ‘stops breathing’, she dies. Toga Himiko dies, then there’s no longer a ‘Toga Himiko’, no longer a self.
Be empty and dead inside, and you can blend in with the crowd. Have no sense of self, and you can be whoever people want you to be. Had Toga stop being herself, then her parents will stop yelling at her, people will accept her.
She can live a ‘normal’ life, but only if she’s a hollow shell.
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starlooove · 1 year ago
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The way I don’t post about hobie is akin to gatekeeping
#I adore him you don’t understand#but if I see another post that’s like#‘guys!!! hobie was played off as a joke but he was serious and kind!!! that’s what punk is all about!!!’#I’m gonna lose it#nothing against it I actually agree#it’s just. so obvious#like it does not need to be paragraphs explaining that that’s literally the point#and again I don’t have issue with ppl who make the posts or whatver#but ppl being like ‘OMMMGGG?!’#in the replies is so#like idk how to explain it I feel like a majority of y’all are caught up in the most obvious aspects of his character so u don’t look deeper#but to you it IS deep bc those obvious aspects aren’t obvious to you#idk like I feel like it’s only other black punks that get him beyond what y’all keep saying#bc the things y’all are discovering is shit we’ve lived and known for years like me personally I’m over it I KNOW#it’s as if someone just turned mha on and was like ‘guys…Dabi is angry at Endeavor. endeavor is meant to represent toxic societal standards’#or someone made a 100k note post going#‘guys…Jason doesn’t HATE Bruce. he wants Bruce to love him in the way jason would love him’#like we know that’s the plot#and don’t get me wrong some of y’all are incompetent asf and need it spelled out#but it’s just. annoying to see.#anyways yeah I love hobie but I can’t stomach going into his tag and seeing shit that’s like. the main point being treated as some profound-#-discovery. this is prolly pretentious asf but I have the right to be I’ve been a strong hobie stan for 5 years mwah <3#and when I said blk punks earlier I acrually wanna say punks of color#like me personally I’ve seen so many Latino and native punks GETTING it#it’s actually just white punks acting brand new hate to say it
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cryolyst · 1 year ago
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dust and depression and such.
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inkykeiji · 2 years ago
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i think dabi does like spicy food! i feel like he’s a crazy lil masochist (we love him for it though) so he’ll look for the spiciest food possible to eat just to feel something 😭
interesting anon!!!!! that’s funny hehehe @airanke said something similar about it being one of the only things he can still feel!
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for some reason i could also see him enjoying spicy food just to prove how badass he is, if that makes sense??? like oh, look at me, i’m so fucking cool, i can eat the world’s spiciest peppers raw and not even need any water, you’re such a pussy etc lmao
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searenbound · 2 years ago
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Ha Katsuki would kill me if he were real because I accidentally fell for Dabi. Or more accurately I fell for fanon drama king Dabi. Listen I was a goth/emo kid who wasn’t allowed to dress the part because of hyper religious family and mom wanting to avoid that particular drama, his whole vibe is what I craved to outwardly express.
He’d go on graveyard dates with me and steal pretty shiny things for me is all I’m saying.
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misssmina · 7 months ago
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I hate when yall write the same kind of personality for self insert fics.
I don’t want to keep seeing the same easily flustered, no backbone, cries a lot Y/N. Here are some versions that I think would work better for each character.
Sweetheart Y/N: Caretaker, blushy, scolds character for not taking care of themselves. Best for slice of life AU’s or as a quirkless character. [Midoriya, Hawks, Dabi, Toshinori, Aizawa]
Goofball Y/N: Silly, playfully sarcastic, best friend type, takes nothing seriously. [Bakugou, Shigaraki, Todoroki, Aizawa]
Bitchy/Bratty Y/N: Tackless, competitive, well meaning, emotionally constipated. [Kirishima, Iida, Midoriya, Bakugou, Sero]
Bestie/Sacrificial Y/N: Fun, overly understanding, forgiving, compassionate, competitive. Best for angst and/or character development. [Dabi, Shigaraki, Bakugou, Aizawa, Hawks.]
More variety please & thank you 🩵 also please make it long
Edit: The way people are bitching about this post is crazy. I legitimately do not care how you write, it’s YOUR writing. But you have options, that is the point. This post was not a personal attack to ANYONE. Just have fun writing and push yourself.
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embers-of-the-league · 3 months ago
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Okay, so here's where we're at apparently
Tomura is dead
Toga is dead (or, let's just call it as it is, she committed suicide) - this is despite the fact that if she died other characters (read: heroes) should have died as well, but didn't (Bakugo and Edgeshot for example)
Dabi is presumably still in the hospital (since we didn't see a funeral), unable to move or do anything on his own
Spinner wrote his book, but where he is and how he's actually doing is unknown - presumably he still has to deal with multiple quirks that aren't his own and are tearing at his body
Compress is alive but where he currently is is unknown - he read Spinner's book (and that's it)
Kurogiri exploded?? And nobody has bothered to mention anything about him since
Twice has been dead for a while, but his murderer is not only free of charge but also the head of the HPSC (which still exists btw)
Other things:
The hero ranking system still exists
Seemingly no real changes have been made which would help victims like the LOV before they felt like they had to turn to villainy to be heard/seen/understood
Deku gets to be a hero again by the power of ~technology~ - kinda making the whole deal about him losing his quirk feel pointless
Not from this chapter, but I still feel like it's very important to point out that it's heavily implied that Rei is just gonna take care of Enji (her abuser) now and probably for the rest of time
The few good things:
Ochako bringing more focus on mental health
That was it, I have nothing else
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