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"Isn't Enemies to Lovers proship" Nope! Here's Why (+ Explaining Strawmen)
Proship/comship/neutral/darkfic DO NOT interact!! This post is not and never will be for you, stay away from me.
So I got this question as an anon but the ask just disappeared 😭 anyways I feel like this is a good topic to tackle because this shoddy argument is thrown around a lot
Short answer: No, but it can be depending on the execution
Long answer: Enemies to lovers as a trope isn't inherently toxic, but if it's handled wrong then yes the relationship would be abusive and ergo would be proship. But just because it CAN be handled poorly doesn't mean it's AUTOMATICALLY toxic and bad on principal
More under the cut:
I've had people I've hated who I later warmed up to. Happens all the time, that's life, you're not gonna like everyone. But that doesn't mean we abused one another or made one another's life a living hell. If you're thinking about ETL (Enemies To Lovers) in the context of the Enemy being this ruthless tyrant who tears down the MC at every opportunity, ruins their life, and overall makes the MC severely harmed from their actions: yes, that is abuse. THAT relationship would be proship.
But that's what I call BookTok ETL, cause BookTok is where it's most normalized (and let's be fr, they normalize proship stuff ALL THE TIME). BookTok ETL is specifically different from general ETL cause most interpretations of the trope are written by people who know there's a line between flirty angry banter and actual harmful interactions. Any sane person who loves the trope will tell you there's definitely a limit and that it becomes gross and uncomfortable when that line is crossed.
And, what I find important to emphasize: every trope CAN be toxic if done wrong. Childhood Friends to Lovers can be unhealthy if the childhood friend in question is a thoughtless shitbag and torments the MC. Coffee Shop AUs can be toxic if it's someone harassing an essential service worker the whole time. I've experienced media that's made me love tropes I usually don't care for just as much as I've seen media do a trope I love so badly that the relationship is a cesspit mess that I wouldn't ever dream of supporting.
My point here is judging a general and inherently harmless trope just based off of the idea that it could sometimes maybe be portrayed as toxic, doesn't mean the trope is on principal bad/toxic/gross. "But what about hero x villain?"— same rules apply. If Villain is terrorizing Hero or the ones they love so badly that it gives Hero trauma or deeply negatively impacts them in a scarring way, that is abuse and no one should argue that it isn't. But the trope can also be lighthearted and sweet, depending on the way it's handled.
Now onto my second portion:
What is a strawman?
A strawman is directly defined as "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument". The very question of attributing harmless tropes to abuse romanticizing proshippers is a strawman. An argument that's meant to seem like a "HAHA GOTCHA" to people who don't sit and think for more than two seconds on how you're literally grasping at straws. This ties into a common trend of proshippers trying to worm their way into everything.
Let me be blunt: proshippers did NOT and never have invented shipping, selfshipping, fandoms, or anything of the like. They like saying that as an imaginary "gotcha" card to the rest of us, just claiming with zero proof or evidence to have invented online spaces because that's easier to argue over than the fact that they're supporting actually disgusting things. 9/10 they just wanna piss people off and then flood them with harassment when the person points out the obvious holes in their argument (pretty ironic coming from the "we don't support harassment!" crowd by the way)
So, to reiterate and be as clear as possible; no, enemies to lovers and hero x villain aren't proship. They can BECOME proship if specific portrayals are done in a very toxic way that make the relationship abusive, but any trope can be represented horribly, so no it does not automatically mean the trope as a concept is proship. Claiming it is is a strawman argument largely used by proshippers because they're deflecting from what they're actually doing wrong and trying to grasp at straws to "epically own the stupid antis" or something like that
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ok so for those of you who don’t know, there’s this twitter account of a japanese local hero mascot named dentman who went viral recently due to this tweet
but yeah he saw the tweet. and his response went viral as well (which is how i found his account)
and he just has like. hourly posts reminding you to brush your teeth
oh and his rival? his name is mr. mutans. whenever dentman posts he makes a post of his own, ofc
but THAT’S NOT ALL. literally while making this post i found a THIRD ACCOUNT that’s all about taking your meds
safe to say i’m losing my mind
anyway the point of all this was that people are ALREADY beginning to draw them ship art 😭
and the reactions are everything
I CANT ADD ANY MORE IMAGES BUT TRUST ME THIS IS SO FUNNY
toxic one-sided dentman yaoi wasn’t on my 2024 bingo card but it DEFINITELY IS NOW!
#what the fluoride#toxic doomed yaoi#this is so funny#dentman#mr. mutans#mr.mutans#mutans#ohga man#ohga#twitter#tokusatsu#japanese mascots#local heroes#🍬#🦷#🍬🦷#long post#50k#60k#70k
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Well, I can't fix her... But I can press her face into the mattress, one hand in the middle of her back and the other gripping her hip tightly while I make her take my strap so hard that her eyes roll, her mouth opens in a perfect 'O', she drools all over my sheets and pleases me with those cute little noises escaping her lips... That would probably calm her down.
This is about wlw/sapphic/lesbian sex
#lesbian#wlw smut#wlw yearning#wlw post#wlw nsft#sapphic#sapphic nsft#wlw concepts#mean domme#femme4femme#femme4butch#masc4masc#dykeposting#femme4all#butch4all#masc4all#🦷.txt
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give them blood blood gallons of the stuff :)
#art#digital art#my art 🦷#digital painting#iwtv#iwtv fanart#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#im not really in this fandom so like. i hope people dont get mad at me for this one lol#i just felt like drawing some sexy shit#not even happy with this piece tbh but i feel like posting it nayways cause i worked kinda hard on it :/#ik the perpective is probably off and their faces are a lil wonky#but.. I TRIED#and i like the vibes and the colors. sorta
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“there’s too much of X in the alterhuman tags” be the change you want to see in the world. “there’s not enough of X in the alterhuman tags” be the change you want to see in the world.
spam your rare kintype! share your unique experience! inspire others to follow in your bravery and individuality!
#🦷 ; text#this ofc does not apply to ‘stop posting non fictkin stuff in fictikin tags and similar’#therian#nonhuman#alterhuman#nonhumanity#alterhumanity#therianthropy#therian thoughts#otherkin#fictkin#fictionkin
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i've said this before, but ellie loves being straddled. esp jackson!ellie, when you prompt the position yourself, shifting weight onto your knees n' tossing a leg over right as two r cuddling, like the legit moment you do it her lids hastily peel back and you see her arm reach out for your hips like a reflex— bends at the knees behind you where her thighs press into ur' butt n' fuuckk she gives a faint squeeze to your hip bones, notably her thumb on the opposite side of the bone so you truly feel that dimpled push, and her other fingers inching the round of your butt— on the sly she eases you further on her hips/belly, skimp roll of her groin creasing the fabric under your bottom blehhhh AND THE BUTTON OF HER FLY POKING YOU DELICATELY AUGHH.
tries to keep the conversation ordinary— but her voice, her fucking voiceeee would be so nasally and lush with dry scoffs, "pshh— please, you probably don't know the first thing about 'the turning'." when all she wants to do is flip your body plumb to the mattress and bury you in it with soft, wanton nibbles weaving through the bare/revealing bits of your shirt, to have you giggling and bucking when she ruts her frame through the gap of your spread thighs n' envelop herself in the plush skin, to leave an impression with the tight jam of her fingers fondling said plush fat on your flesh, pretty little raw marks, lovely hidden traces of how fucking bad she needs to take you. ♡
sorry like. ellie x reader starting a relationship in jackson is literally my empire i need to write a whole fucking drabble book on it (or fucking finish tps LMAO) also this angelgbc pic AHHHHHH (dunno the direct source but pls lmk so i can credit)
also update on knight!ellie fic it's going smooth but because it's the prologue it's sooo lore heavy before the romance and tension actually begins to bloom BUTT LIKE heyy!! slowly leads up to some romantic n dirty smut scenes in other chapters!!
#ellie williams#⊱🦷.•aestra talks#this post was supposed to be short fml#ellie williams x reader#ellie williams smut#ellie tlou#lesbian#sapphic#⤹𓍢ִ໋aestras asks#ellie x reader#ellie williams x fem!reader#ellie williams fic#ellie williams fanfic#ellie williams fanfiction#ellie williams blurb#ellie williams drabble#ellie williams headcanons#ellie williams concept#jackson!ellie
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INFO CARD MASTERPOST
KQ credits: @cleverperfectionstrawberry
Rogue Kinger and writing credits: @obamerzslop
(Their finally done)
#tadc#tadc fandom#the amazing digital circus#the amaizing digital circus#tadc au#the digital circus#artists on tumblr#tadc unstable circus#unstable circus#unstable circus au#unstable circus tadc#the unstable circus au ♟️🦷🎪#the unstable circus♟️🎪🦷#tadc art#au info#tadc au Info#au tadc#info card#digital aritst#digital circus#digital drawing#digital art#my art#not my art#art#artwork#info card master post#masterpost#art masterpost#the amazing digital circus au
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"but athenas kids are supposed to have blonde hair and blue eyes!!" but the movie brunette adaptation didnt have half this uproar golly i wonder why... the whole athenas kids being blonde thing doesnt even play into the story at all and retconning it changes absolutely nothing. it was fine when the movies came out, its fine now that the show is out. dont be a coward and admit you dont like black people if u wanna hate. if leah was white you would be so quiet rn
#idk if this makes sense i may need to reword it later but ykwim#pjo#percy jackson#rick riordan#percy jackson show#walker scobell#percy jackson tv series#percy jackson olympians#pjo tv show#pjo show#pjo thoughts#pjo series#annabeth chase#percabeth#leah sava jeffries#leah jeffries#txt#txt post#🦷
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#ୁ ͟🍯°̩̥✧✿🍮❀⠀⠀—⠀⠀sunni⠀new⠀post⠀!#✧°̩̥· credits ࿚۪࿙ @magicalboything ☆#ୁ ͟°̩̥✧✿🥥❀ ࿚۪࿙#messy moodboard#tim kai moodboard#1timkai moodboard#ulzzang moodboard#tiktoker moodboard#♡ 🪞#boys moodboard#bg moodboard#soft moodboard#tim kai layouts#1timkai layouts#ulzzang messy layouts#♥︎ ⛲️#tiktoker layouts#boys layouts#bg messy moodboard#random moodboard#tim kai ulzzang#1timkai ulzzang#☆ 🦷#ulzzang messy icons#tiktoker aesthetic#boys aesthetic#bg messy icons#edgy moodboard#★ 🍮#tim kai icons
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1 like = 1 prayer that Ewan Mitchell never gets his teeth altered in any way
#his smile is so perfect and charming#this post has been brought to you by the anti veneers fairy 🦷🚫🧚♀️✨#ewan mitchell
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beau arquette ✮ 6’2” photographer, model, and local animal shelter volunteer because apparently spending time with my own dog isn’t enough for me. self — proclaimed baker of the best banana nut bread you will ever eat and probably taking a nap right now. come say hey @comfiue (:
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❤️ 𝐻𝑒𝒶𝓋𝑒𝓃'𝓈 𝒩𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 ⭐
#silent hill#silent hill 2#silent hill maria#🦷#i really dont care this piece but its been sitting for awhile so might as well finish and post
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I'll fuck you eventually, doll, relax. Let me be a little mean first...
This is about wlw/sapphic/lesbian sex
#lesbian#wlw smut#wlw yearning#sapphic#wlw post#sapphic nsft#wlw nsft#queer nsft#wlw concepts#mean domme#femme4butch#femme4femme#masc4masc#dykeposting#🦷.txt
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Transexualism...
Original under th' cut
#Little Shop of Trannies..#y'all i can make that joke#lsoh#little shop#little shop of horrors#lsoh fanart#orin lsoh#orin scrivello#orin scrivello dds#trans lsoh#trans orin scrivello#fat orin canon#art#digital art#💜#🦷#host collaboration post#dr pepper collective
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tag a few moots and assign them and yourself an idol duo ⭐️
TYSM FOR THIS!!
@nishimurrdoll chaewon n yunjin
@sxgarhan definitely moka and YUNAH
@awwriri xinyu and sohyun!!!
@dollfacedb1tch yunjin and eunchae
@madmaknaez and definitely wonhee and iroha<3 and wony and Liz!
@florichae iroha and YUNAH!<3
@wonysmiu wony and Liz! Or iroha and wonhee<3
Please tell me if I forgot you!<3
#riri hangout q&a !#Questions asked for riri#riri skibidi era and 𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 posts#ririicherry#mine.#💀🦷anon
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i want to eat ellie's nose ass nose nose ass nose
#ellie williams#thats the post#⊱🦷.•aestra talks#ellie williams x reader#ellie tlou#lesbian#sapphic#ellie williams pictures
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