#“isn't it a yao-”

[mynamesjameslynx1412]

"why can't you just let male characters be friends?"

the male characters in question:

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

He was just being a silly little guy!

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[thatswhatsushesaid]

justice for fu yao and all the stupid shit he had to put up with

[lgbtlunaverse]

It seems the dash has been talking about the Lan Xichen - Nie Huaisang post-canon dynamics and it's gotten me thinking about how discussion around post-canon Lan Xichen's absolutely horrendous mental state often center around the question of "who is Lan Xichen angry at and who does he feel guilty about" which, at its worst, seperates into 2 camps where according to one side he feels guilty about not protecting jgy and hates the Nies and, on the other side he has completely flipped on jgy and despises him now while being filled with regret towards both nmj and nhs.

And I dislike both of these takes not just because it often feels like people projecting their own Blorbo opinions onto Lan Xichen which is never a fun time but also because that central question is flawed to begin with. It treats anger and guilt like opposing emotions that can't coexist or, if they do, have to compete until one wins and cancels the other out.

And that's not how that... works.

To be clear, the reason why Lan Xichen is so supremely fucked up at the end of the story is that he believes on some level he fucked over everyone in this situation. And, even more importantly, that even with hindsight he can't actually think of what he should have done instead. Every attempt to do better by one seems to involve fucking over the others even more because these people were in conflict with each other and choosing one would mean standing against another

And none of this would actually stop him from feeling angry at any of them. It's not "who is he angry at and who does he feel guilty about" it's: "he is angry at everyone and feels an immediate and bone deep guilt for daring to think badly of them."

Speaking from personal experience here, but feeling like you're not allowed to be angry at someone because you wronged them really doesn't stop the feeling, it just maks you feel like shit for feeling it. And this is all worsened by the fact that what he's in seclusion for is, at the end of the day, a moral question of what he, Lan Xichen, did wrong and every single emotion serves as further proof of the ways he's failed them.

Is he angry at Jin Guangyao, for killing his oldest friend, using Lan xichen's trust in him to do it, and then lying to him about it and countless other things for a decade when Lan Xichen thought of him as the person he trusted the most in the entire world? Yeah. That's a thing people get angry about! Except Jin Guangyao also saved his life and protected and helped him more times than he can count and never ever hurt him and can Lan Xichen say the same? No. He had to clean A-Yao's blood off Shouyue, he has to be haunted by the fact that if he just hadn't listened to Huaisang- hadn't been just like everyone else, in the end, and believed a lie about Jin Guangyao just to think the worst of him- then Jin Guangyao might still be alive.

Is he angry at Huaisang? For orchestrating the death of his best friend? For making him do it? For knowing what the real cause behind Nie Mingjue's death was and never telling him until he found out in the absolute worst way? Absolutely. But didn't Huaisang hide it from him for a reason? Wasn't it his clan's techniques and his personal faith in Jin Guangyao that cost Huaisang his brother? How dare he demand that Huaisang let him in on the secret of his brother's murderer when Lan Xichen is here wondering about how he should have protected that murderer better!

And I do even think he's angry at Nie Mingjue, sometimes I think it's pretty normal to be angry at your friend for kicking your other friend down the stairs and threatening to kill him, even when you know his mind is being poisoned. And years later the last thing he ever saw of Nie Mingjue was Nie Mingjue's thoughtless corpse coming to kill him before Jin Guangyao pushed him away and then proceeded to graphocally snap Jin Guangyao's neck in front of him. And if what he wants to do is protect Jin Guangyao, shouldn't he be mad at Mingjue? Didn't this whole mess start because Jin Guangyao was afraid Nie Mingjue was going to kill him?

Except holy shit, can you imagine? Lan Xichen feels like he personally has Nie Mingjue's blood on his hands. Your oldest friend is killed in front of you and you happily believe it's an accident for 11 years and now you think you have the right to be mad at him? You watched him get worse as he was being poisoned and attributed it to his illness and not to the techniques stolen from your library with the token you give his murderer. Does he think Nie Mingjue knew who he was in that moment and wanted to kill him? That he blamed Lan Xichen for his death? (For the record, I don't. I don't agree with most of what Lan Xichen thinks about himself, but I've been in a self-blame spiral and I know how it feels)

But what was he supposed to do then? Choose Mingjue's side and let A-Yao die? That's also unacceptable. But so is letting Jin Guangyao get away with it. Every single outcome is unacceptable. And really, if Jin Guangyao felt like he had to kill Nie Mingjue to save himself, when it was Lan Xichen who was supposed to keep the peace between them, isn't that another mark of his failure? That he couldn't protect Jin Guangyao well enough that he felt he had to do something so horrible?

But that's not an answer! He's supposed to know what he should have done different, and all he can come up with is "what you were already doing, but without failing this time" He can't pick a side because that means betrayal, but he's already tried not picking a side and it ended like this! There is no right answer, which can only leave him with the idea that he was simply doomed to hurt the people he loved from the start. No wonder the guy looks like shit when we see him post-canon. They put him in a real life trolley problem and gave him the lever as a souvenir.

[waitineedaname]

I find it very funny that the only time ling and mei directly interact is at the very end and the only time they were ever in the same room together before the promised day is when ling has been freshly possessed. we already know mei gets a glance at greed and is like "is that the yao prince?? why is he here????" and I have to imagine it went similarly from ling's perspective. like he's still reeling from getting possessed on purpose, probably still getting his bearings in there, and he's just experienced potentially the worst twenty-four hours of his life, and then greed starts applauding a little girl's reunion with her panda and ling gets a look at her and is like "oh what the fuck."

[the-lost-profile]

LN 11 spoilers

Self gaslighting queen

Self gaslighting king

[very-poorly-drawn-tgcf]

Go work off that debt Xie Lian! ....with an extra babysitting job.

Meme template for y'all under the cut + examples I made.

Anyway hopefully next episodes won't take too long. The thing is. The Ghost Groom arc is a lot longer than I remember. I'm still racking my brain over how the hell I'm gonna summarize it because I am not going every single instance

[dailyayao]

[holy--milk]

btw this post kinda made me think about how, as both a JGY and SJ fan, i see both of them get similar yet opposite treatment from certain parts of their fanbases.

like JGY consistently gets interpreted to be much more of a prickly asshole and a ruthless murderer than he actually is, while SJ is often toned down into a Tough (but secretly caring) Teacher archetype with full disregard for his canonical blatant and cruel abuse of children (well, one specific child as far as we know, but he's a quality over quantity man for sure).

like maybe some JGY stans would benefit from switching to full-time SJ apologism instead of trying to mold their polite little customer service smile blorbo into an angry feral kitten with abandonment issues. and vice versa.

[symphonyofsilence]

So first of all, let me start by saying that JGY & LXC knew each other for far longer than Wangxian knew each other, or even WWX & the Jiang siblings were together. (Cloud recesses got burnt down and LXC went on the run when LWJ was around 17. At the time of the events of the Guanyin Temple LWJ was around 34. In the CQL, LXC & JGY first saw each other (& developed a huge crush at first sight) when LWJ was 15, and at the end of the story LWJ was 36) so all that talk of "LXC being too naive and blind for trusting JGY & thinking that he knows him"? Or hating him for defending his savior, supporter, and friend of 17/20 years? No. Wrong. Enough of that.

Now getting to the main point, IDK exactly when that teacher/student roleplay of them takes place but it must be shortly before NMJ's qi deviaton. Which is well into Xiyao's relationship. So my question is if these two have only now heard each others' guqin playing as is implied by these lines:

Jin GuangYao laughed, "Well, now that I've heard Brother's guqin skills, I might as well smash my guqin the moment I get home."

Lan XiChen, "Your skills are also considered quite fine outside of Gusu. Were they taught by your mother?"

Jin GuangYao, "No. I taught myself by watching others. She never taught me such things. She only taught me reading and writing, and bought a handful of expensive sword and cultivation guides for me to practice."

And they only now talked about JGY's family history with Meng Shi, and with how when telling his parents' story to WWX LXC talks like he hasn't talked with anyone about this story before, then wtf have Xiyao talked about all those years?!

[nekoning]

xiao qian vs zhou hanzheng, just in time to protect his martial siblings, this will surely go well...

[thatswhatsushesaid]

shitpost dispatches from nightless city - incorrect but plausibly canon quotes edition

[lgbtlunaverse]

One underdiscussed aspect of the bone-deep lack of mutual understanding during the nieyao stairs scene is that Nie Mingjue doesn't know - and can't know - what he's actually asking of Jin Guangyao. Not because he doesn't understand how his father treats him, or how tenuous his position is. But because he has no clue Xue Yang is a demonic cultivator.

Remember: Nie Mingjue is still alive, which means the position of chief cultivator doesn't exist yet and Jin Guangshan is facing heavy pushback for suggesting it. Most of that is coming from a fear that the Jin will try to become the next Wen. So having an outer disciple murder an entire clan and then not even punish him properly? This is a collosally bad move politically! You might as well be waving a red flag around yelling "I want to kill other sects with impunity!" There's a reason that years in the future, the moment Jin Guangyao becomes acting sect leader, he will immediately order Xue Yang's death (He doesn't actually die, either by accident or on purpose on jgy's part. But the point is that as far as the public is concerned he had Xue Yang executed.)

From Nie Mingjue's perspective, Jin Guangshan just shot himself in the foot politically for some random outer disciple. It's morally wrong, but it's also incredibly fucking stupid. In his eyes, he is asking Jin Guangyao to do the glaringly obvious right thing, even when exclusively looking at the Jins' self-interest. The thing that surely everyone else in the Jin also wants Jin Guangshan to do! Jin Guangyao can say that he has no influence on his father all he wants, but it is obvious how much work he does and so, as much as his father may not respect him, he clearly at least trusts Jin Guangyao's competence. Nie Mingjue has already tried shouting directly at Jin Guangshan during the trial and it seemed to work, but then Jin Guangshan went back on his decision like a complete idiot. So now Nie Mingjue is asking the guy who is famous for being good at rhetoric and convincing people to convince his donkey of a father to do the obviously correct thing with minimal downsides because again, to Nie Mingjue, this is all about some random outer disciple. It makes sense to ask this! It's a pretty reasonable request! Jin Guangshan can't possibly care that much.

Except of course he does. Because Xue Yang isn't some random outer disciple. He's the only good shot Jin Guangshan has at recreating the yin tiger tally. And Jin Guangshan reaaaaaally wants the yin tiger tally. So bad that he is fully willing to tank an ungodly amount of political goodwill to get it. Jin Guangyao is fully aware that not only will Jin Guangshan never kill Xue Yang, he isn't planning on keeping him locked up either. In fact, after Nie Mingjue is dead, he'll free Xue Yang and strongarm Chang Ping into denying the guilt of his family's murderer. Jin Guangshan cares a lot about keeping Xue Yang in his employ.

And Jin Guangyao knows this. But he can't tell Nie Mingjue that! Because then he'd have to admit they've been doing demonic cultivation. That the fucking ghost geneal is in their basement. That, oopsie, they actually also killed a whole other entire clan just a while ago after framing their sect leader for an assasination attempt and then used their bodies as fodder to make more fierce corpses. You know, in case one mass murder wasn't enough!

So obviously he's not gonna say that. Which means Nie Mingjue has no idea what he's demanding from Jin Guangyao, and therefore no idea why he absolutely can't fullfill that request.

I get why it's not mentioned very often because there are a lot of other problems which are both more obvious and more fun to talk about. (Who doesn't love a little overcomplicated trolley problem?) But I think it adds just another layer to the chasm between them in this scene. They're not just disagreeing, they're having completely different conversations.

[prinzsorgenfrei]

Last Line Meme

Rules: Share the last line you wrote, tag some people, and have fun!

Tagged by: @achilleasfury

Boy you caught me at just the right time... :'D

And his Er-ge had stabbed him through the heart.

I tag: Why, @scribbled-anecdotes and @marquisevonobst, of course!

[runespoor7]

this is nieyao to me

NMJ: i could fix him

JGY: you don't have to

NMJ: no i'm gonna

[hetalia-club]

Got Bored And Made An Entire Hetalia Baseball League (HBL)

the league is meant to have fictitious and near impossible goals for regular humans to achieve. They are all scaled beside each other accounting for superhuman strength.

~China's Stats~

Batting Average Regular Season- .292 Projection- .292 Career- .300

Running Speed MPH- 18-20 Hitting Power MPH- 90-95 Regular Season Stolen Bases- 20 Career Stolen Bases- 300

China would be considered a good player, with strengths that outweigh his weaknesses. His consistency, versatility, and endurance make him a valuable asset to any team, while his plate discipline and base-running ability add further dimensions to his game. However, like any player, he has areas where he can continue to improve to reach his full potential.

Tsunami Titans- link to their team and positions

Other Players: (will update with link as they are added) America Russia Sweden England Ireland Iceland Canada Denmark Turkey France Scotland Greece Germany Japan Nyo!America Prussia China Nyo!England Spain Austria Italy Norway Romano Finland

breakdown below >> (Chat GTP helped with this part because I'm not good at describing things or sports talk)((it also made me the lay out above I made the stats and it put them in MLB format for me & calculated batting average because math :/ ))

Consideration for China's Stats:

Balanced Stat Distrubution:

Regular Season:

Regular Season:

Games Played (GP): China's consistent presence on the field reflects his reliability and dedication to his team. He's always ready to contribute and give his best effort in every game.

At-Bats (AB): With a significant number of at-bats, China demonstrates his proactive approach to the game. He's not afraid to take risks and seize opportunities at the plate.

Runs Scored (R): China's ability to score runs highlights his strategic thinking and agility on the bases. He's quick to capitalize on scoring opportunities and contributes to his team's offensive success.

Hits (H): China's high number of hits showcases his skill and precision as a hitter. He consistently makes contact with the ball and puts himself in position to contribute to his team's offense.

Doubles (2B), Triples (3B), Home Runs (HR): China's distribution of extra-base hits demonstrates his versatility and ability to generate offense in various ways. He's capable of driving the ball to all parts of the field and keeping opposing defenses on their toes.

Runs Batted In (RBI): China's ability to drive in runs underscores his reliability and clutch performance in key situations. He's a valuable asset with runners on base and consistently delivers when his team needs him most.

Walks (BB): Drawing walks indicates China's patience and selective approach at the plate. He's disciplined enough to wait for pitches he can drive and doesn't chase after bad pitches.

Strikeouts (SO): While China strikes out occasionally, it's not an excessively high number. This suggests that he maintains good bat-to-ball skills and rarely falls victim to easy outs.

Projected Season:

The projected season stats mirror the regular season, indicating China's consistency and reliability as a player. He maintains his performance level from game to game, providing stability for his team.

Career:

Games Played (GP), At-Bats (AB): China's lengthy career is characterized by his enduring presence in the sport. He's a fixture on the field, having participated in numerous games and accumulated a substantial number of at-bats over the years.

Runs (R), Hits (H), Doubles (2B), Triples (3B), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI): Throughout his career, China has consistently contributed to his team's offense, amassing impressive totals in runs, hits, extra-base hits, and RBIs. He's a reliable performer who can be counted on to deliver in crucial situations.

Walks (BB): Over his career, China has demonstrated discipline and patience at the plate, earning a significant number of walks. He understands the importance of getting on base and is willing to work the count to his advantage.

Strikeouts (SO): Despite his long career, China has managed to keep his strikeout total relatively low, showcasing his ability to make consistent contact and avoid easy outs.

Character Traits & Personality:

Resilience and Determination: China is resilient and determined, rarely backing down from challenges and always giving his best effort on the field.

Team Player: He values teamwork and collaboration, often putting the team's success above individual achievements.

Discipline: China is disciplined both on and off the field, adhering to a strict training regimen and maintaining focus during games.

Adaptability: He can adapt to different game situations and roles, whether it's as a leadoff hitter, a situational hitter, or a defensive specialist.

Playing Style:

Aggressive Basestealer: China's exceptional speed makes him an aggressive basestealer, often looking to take an extra base or steal when the opportunity arises.

Contact Hitter: He excels at making contact with the ball and putting it in play, using his speed to beat out ground balls and bunts.

Solid Defender: China's agility and quick reflexes make him a solid defender in the outfield, capable of tracking down fly balls and making accurate throws.

Skill Level:

Above-Average: China is considered above-average in terms of skill level, particularly in areas such as speed, baserunning, and defensive abilities.

Versatile: He possesses a variety of skills that make him valuable in different aspects of the game, including hitting for contact, stealing bases, and playing solid defense.

Consistency:

Reliable Performer: China is a reliable performer who consistently contributes to his team's success, both offensively and defensively.

Steady Production: He maintains steady production throughout the season, rarely experiencing prolonged slumps or periods of underperformance.

Plate Discipline:

Patience at the Plate: China exhibits patience at the plate, often working deep into counts and waiting for pitches he can drive.

Good Eye: He has a good eye for recognizing pitches and distinguishing between balls and strikes, resulting in a decent number of walks and a low strikeout rate.

Strengths

Defensive Prowess: His agility and quick reflexes make him a solid defender in the outfield, capable of tracking down fly balls and making accurate throws. Versatility: China possesses a variety of skills that make him valuable in different aspects of the game, including hitting, baserunning, and defense. Weaknesses

Power Hitting: He lacks power in his hitting, resulting in fewer extra-base hits and home runs compared to power hitters. Arm Strength: While accurate, China's arm strength may be average or slightly below average compared to other outfielders, limiting his ability to make strong throws from the outfield. Size: His smaller stature may limit his ability to drive the ball with authority and generate power in his swings.